no game will ever be better than FFX

FFX had a pretty lame story. About as lame as the last two Matrix movies. The plot 'twists' were rather ill-concieved, and the villian of the whole thing? Please.RahnAetas

God you're so right

 All FF's since IV (XI and X-2 excepted) are  better than X. God watching two teens falling in love with each other was so boring. There wasn't even a proper vilain to compensate.

The thousand chickens sounds like a reference to something Cray said "which would you rather have for plowing a field- two strong oxen, or 1024 chickens?"FoamingPanda

Actually, it was just citing the most impressive technological demonstration I've seen with next-gen hardware this gen: the giant benchmark program that rendered a ton of chickens on the PS3. 10,000 chickens, but not one developer this gen can give us ONE good writer? C'mon now...

This generation isn't the mess you want to make it out to be - more powerful hardware and better A/V equipment have allowed a few good things. Look at Mistwalker - the creator of Final Fantasy producing games like ASH, Blue Dragon, and Lost Odyssey which offer far more unique storylines than any Final Fantasy game churned out by Square Enix has pushed in a number of years.

The problem I describe above is different in intensity depending on the console or format in question. True, we have more powerful hardware -- but I still pose this question: thus far, what have we seen in terms of "epic" games? Something that might be considered mediocre on a bookshelf, if even that? How ground-breaking and revolutionary are these titles you cite? Will these games present ideas and interaction that mirror a high liteary standard? I doubt it. Games never had, and until we demand better, games never will. Even games who break the mold, which are EXTREMELY scarce as it, fail to live up to an objective and fair standard.

 

You guys do know that Orsan Scott Card wrote the story for Advent rising and for an upcoming 360 game called Empire.

[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]

The thousand chickens sounds like a reference to something Cray said "which would you rather have for plowing a field- two strong oxen, or 1024 chickens?"superkoolstud

Actually, it was just citing the most impressive technological demonstration I've seen with next-gen hardware this gen: the giant benchmark program that rendered a ton of chickens on the PS3. 10,000 chickens, but not one developer this gen can give us ONE good writer? C'mon now...

This generation isn't the mess you want to make it out to be - more powerful hardware and better A/V equipment have allowed a few good things. Look at Mistwalker - the creator of Final Fantasy producing games like ASH, Blue Dragon, and Lost Odyssey which offer far more unique storylines than any Final Fantasy game churned out by Square Enix has pushed in a number of years.

The problem I describe above is different in intensity depending on the console or format in question. True, we have more powerful hardware -- but I still pose this question: thus far, what have we seen in terms of "epic" games? Something that might be considered mediocre on a bookshelf, if even that? How ground-breaking and revolutionary are these titles you cite? Will these games present ideas and interaction that mirror a high liteary standard? I doubt it. Games never had, and until we demand better, games never will. Even games who break the mold, which are EXTREMELY scarce as it, fail to live up to an objective and fair standard.

 

You guys do know that Orsan Scott Card wrote the story for Advent rising and for an upcoming 360 game called Empire.

AR is such an underrated game, to bad we'll probably never get a sequel for it :(
Kook18

"Unfortunately, it failed, thanks to a fairly uninspired storyline, extremely irritating gameplay flaws, and a whole smorgasbord of technical problems that completely wrecked the experience."

That's unfortunate.  Didn't know that.  Maybe Empire will be better?

[QUOTE="Kook18"]AR is such an underrated game, to bad we'll probably never get a sequel for it :(
Jandurin

"Unfortunately, it failed, thanks to a fairly uninspired storyline, extremely irritating gameplay flaws, and a whole smorgasbord of technical problems that completely wrecked the experience."

That's unfortunate. Didn't know that. Maybe Empire will be better?

He also wrote the insults for Secret of Monkey Island!  No wonder I liked them so.

yay another rpg nerd :|Hir0_N

[QUOTE="Hir0_N"]yay another rpg nerd :|Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Hir0_N"]yay another rpg nerd :|Kook18

Xenogears eats FFX for breakfast. Carmilla31

FFX was one of my favorite RPGs ever, I have a 585 hour save.:PSpartan070

FFVI proves you wrong. Better story, better characters, better villain, better setting, better gameplay, better artwork. But Planescape: Torment is the best RPG ever. FFVI is just the best JRPG ever. The only ones comparable are FFIV and Chrono Trigger.mjarantilla

Xenogears and FFX are over rated.SuperVegeta518

:lol: Teh lemming is sad cause he will never get a real RPG on the 360.

tetris says you're wrong

i hated FFX anyway. wasn't a patch on 8 (which is my fave)dreamachine

Hell yes to tetris, but I like Meteos more now.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]FFX was one of my favorite RPGs ever, I have a 585 hour save.:PJandurin

All character completed Spere Grid multiple times.

All stats for all characters = 255.

99 of every item in the game in inventory.

99 of every available monster caputed.

99,999,999 gil.

370 lightning bolts dodged.

Yeah, it took a while.:P

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]FFX was one of my favorite RPGs ever, I have a 585 hour save.:PJandurin

 Wacking off to lulu's breasts.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]FFX was one of my favorite RPGs ever, I have a 585 hour save.:PRiviera_Phantom

Wacking off to lulu's breasts.

[QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="Shu76"][QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="tidus222"]

incredible story (should have won an oscar)

lots of gameplay (i put like 150 hours into this game cause there was so much to do and cutomizing the sphere grid was fun)

soundtrack (best soundtrack ever, i bought the 4 disc collectors edition FFX soundtrack and love it.)

graphics (at the time they were amazing and still hold up quite well the artsyle is very diverse and we see all kinds of landscapes)

 

overall = no game can match the overall level of enjoyment I and many others had from FFX cause it was the complete package. great story, great soundtrack, great gameplay, lots of replay, great graphics. its liek palying through an oscar winning movie. the game is that GOOD

Shu76

FF VII is much better IMHO.

ummm...no.

Wow. Are you seriously telling me my opinion right now?

ummm...Yup!

Niiiiiccccceeeee. Get over yourself.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]FFX was one of my favorite RPGs ever, I have a 585 hour save.:PRiviera_Phantom

 Wacking off to lulu's breasts.

370 lightning bolts dodged.

Spartan070

FFX was one of my favorite RPGs ever, I have a 585 hour save.:PSpartan070

:shock:

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

370 lightning bolts dodged.

Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

370 lightning bolts dodged.

Spartan070

Only reason why people have an attachment to FF7 is cause Aries died and it was thier first FF RPG they ever played...Come'on! Like most people really used Aries that much. Besides, Voice acting is so much better than reading everything. Shu76

I didn't care when she died. As you said, I never used her. I just LOVED the Materia system, and the story has not been matched in a video game to date. At least that is my opinion. 

FFX was my most favorite game of all time.

[QUOTE="Shu76"]Only reason why people have an attachment to FF7 is cause Aries died and it was thier first FF RPG they ever played...Come'on! Like most people really used Aries that much. Besides, Voice acting is so much better than reading everything. snyper1982

I didn't care when she died. As you said, I never used her. I just LOVED the Materia system, and the story has not been matched in a video game to date. At least that is my opinion. 

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

370 lightning bolts dodged.

Jandurin

:x:x:x:x  The Spirit Lance is worth it though.

:x:x:x:x  The Spirit Lance is worth it though.Spartan070

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]:x:x:x:x  The Spirit Lance is worth it though.Jandurin

Xenogears eats FFX for breakfast. Carmilla31

yes, but FFX is still that great.

it's just that xenogears is almost the perfect game... it just wasn't perfect because the gfx could be a bit better, but that's all. 

[QUOTE="Shu76"]Only reason why people have an attachment to FF7 is cause Aries died and it was thier first FF RPG they ever played...Come'on! Like most people really used Aries that much. Besides, Voice acting is so much better than reading everything. snyper1982

 QFT

i never used her either and yes the materia system was the best..........and i dont mind reading..which pretty much means how good the game is..it does not even need voice acting.. 

I didn't care when she died. As you said, I never used her. I just LOVED the Materia system, and the story has not been matched in a video game to date. At least that is my opinion.