No other system can handle MGS4

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#101 Bigboi500
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http://www.game.co.uk/News/?lid=9503&ad=17_07_2008

The PS3 is the only system that can have MGS4 because it is the only system that is capable of the game.

What are your thoughts guys?

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Having high specs and techs does not make me want to play a game that I otherwise have no interest in.
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#102 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="Hoferman_PS3"]

http://www.game.co.uk/News/?lid=9503&ad=17_07_2008

The PS3 is the only system that can have MGS4 because it is the only system that is capable of the game.

What are your thoughts guys?

Bigboi500

Having high specs and techs does not make me want to play a game that I otherwise have no interest in.

that's why high specs and techs are about making you have interest in the game. but they're not a guarantee you'll be interested in anything, like the motion sensing gameplay doesn't secure a 100% appeal for every Wii game.

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#103 dru26
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The absolutely linear nature of every chapter and area of the game meant it could have easily been ported to dvd in a few discs if necessary.
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#104 iam2green
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The PC says otherwise...

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lols lies, the pc is worst system!!! /scarcasm

the pc could be able to play this game better then anyting.

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#105 leadernator
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Kinda like how the PS3 was the only system that could do Final Fantasy 13?

And I love how much they tout Blu-Ray as being a reason they can make these games. It's just a freaking storage medium, not the hardware!

Fignewton50

OMG SHUT UP.

So how far is FFXIII in development? That new trailer was pretty much recycled since 2006, with a few new CGI scenes.

Square had to obviously consider 360 in its development. So yes, 360 will hinder the final product... thanks for pointing that out.

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#106 leadernator
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There's absolutely nothing that rivals MGS4 when it comes to visuals, especially consider the size of the game.

Sure, fanboys can find a bad screenshot here and there, but that simply doesn't change what it is: the best there is on consoles.

You can pretty much find a quote in EVERY single credible review out there that will tell you exactly what I just explained... INCLUDING GAMESPOT AND IGN.

Fanboys will simply never learn I guess. Keep posting them screenshots... you'll just end up wasting your time trying to justify being a fanboy.

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#107 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

Kinda like how the PS3 was the only system that could do Final Fantasy 13?

And I love how much they tout Blu-Ray as being a reason they can make these games. It's just a freaking storage medium, not the hardware!

leadernator

OMG SHUT UP.

So how far is FFXIII in development? That new trailer was pretty much recycled since 2006, with a few new CGI scenes.

Square had to obviously consider 360 in its development. So yes, 360 will hinder the final product... thanks for pointing that out.

Gotta love the cow FF13 damage control :lol:
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#108 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

Kinda like how the PS3 was the only system that could do Final Fantasy 13?

And I love how much they tout Blu-Ray as being a reason they can make these games. It's just a freaking storage medium, not the hardware!

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

OMG SHUT UP.

So how far is FFXIII in development? That new trailer was pretty much recycled since 2006, with a few new CGI scenes.

Square had to obviously consider 360 in its development. So yes, 360 will hinder the final product... thanks for pointing that out.

Gotta love the cow FF13 damage control :lol:

Hey, at least I don't go bragging about what other people have... in this case, MULTIPLATs.

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#109 elite_ferns1
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Still no reason not to bring it to PC, we got Blu-Ray.Jade_Monkey

MGS fight be the best looking game on the PS3 but it can't hold a candle to Crysis.

Gameplay and story wise MGS is a classic however.

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#110 gdp72
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I think the Wii could handle it if Konami put some effort into it, because Mario Galaxy's graphics are pretty much on par with MGS4.XenoNinja

Have you been sniffing rubber cement?

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#111 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

Kinda like how the PS3 was the only system that could do Final Fantasy 13?

And I love how much they tout Blu-Ray as being a reason they can make these games. It's just a freaking storage medium, not the hardware!

leadernator

OMG SHUT UP.

So how far is FFXIII in development? That new trailer was pretty much recycled since 2006, with a few new CGI scenes.

Square had to obviously consider 360 in its development. So yes, 360 will hinder the final product... thanks for pointing that out.

Gotta love the cow FF13 damage control :lol:

Hey, at least I don't go bragging about what other people have... in this case, MULTIPLATs.

They brag becaue they want a reaction (like yours) which is funny becasue its deperate damage control over losing ANOTHER "exclusive" game.
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#112 angelkimne
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There's absolutely nothing that rivals MGS4 when it comes to visuals, especially consider the size of the game.

Sure, fanboys can find a bad screenshot here and there, but that simply doesn't change what it is: the best there is on consoles.

You can pretty much find a quote in EVERY single credible review out there that will tell you exactly what I just explained... INCLUDING GAMESPOT AND IGN.

Fanboys will simply never learn I guess. Keep posting them screenshots... you'll just end up wasting your time trying to justify being a fanboy.

leadernator

MGS 4 is great and all.

But the only thing that even comes close to Crysis is real life, and that's only just.

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#113 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

There's absolutely nothing that rivals MGS4 when it comes to visuals, especially consider the size of the game.

Sure, fanboys can find a bad screenshot here and there, but that simply doesn't change what it is: the best there is on consoles.

You can pretty much find a quote in EVERY single credible review out there that will tell you exactly what I just explained... INCLUDING GAMESPOT AND IGN.

Fanboys will simply never learn I guess. Keep posting them screenshots... you'll just end up wasting your time trying to justify being a fanboy.

angelkimne

MGS 4 is great and all.

But the only thing that even comes close to Crysis is real life, and that's only just.

360 would do MGS4 better... texture wise and online.

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#114 ganon546
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lol probably not but hey who knows.
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#115 xsubtownerx
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The PC says otherwise...

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Actually, Kojima himself says otherwise.

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#116 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

Kinda like how the PS3 was the only system that could do Final Fantasy 13?

And I love how much they tout Blu-Ray as being a reason they can make these games. It's just a freaking storage medium, not the hardware!

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

OMG SHUT UP.

So how far is FFXIII in development? That new trailer was pretty much recycled since 2006, with a few new CGI scenes.

Square had to obviously consider 360 in its development. So yes, 360 will hinder the final product... thanks for pointing that out.

Gotta love the cow FF13 damage control :lol:

Hey, at least I don't go bragging about what other people have... in this case, MULTIPLATs.

They brag becaue they want a reaction (like yours) which is funny becasue its deperate damage control over losing ANOTHER "exclusive" game.

you, and pretty much every single fanboy out there think every post is damage control... so really, shut it.

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#117 leadernator
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

There's absolutely nothing that rivals MGS4 when it comes to visuals, especially consider the size of the game.

Sure, fanboys can find a bad screenshot here and there, but that simply doesn't change what it is: the best there is on consoles.

You can pretty much find a quote in EVERY single credible review out there that will tell you exactly what I just explained... INCLUDING GAMESPOT AND IGN.

Fanboys will simply never learn I guess. Keep posting them screenshots... you'll just end up wasting your time trying to justify being a fanboy.

Phazevariance

MGS 4 is great and all.

But the only thing that even comes close to Crysis is real life, and that's only just.

360 would do MGS4 better... texture wise and online.

MGS4 on 360 = massive downgrade.

That's why you don't have a 360 game right now that looks that good... yes, with the year head start :|

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#118 6matt6
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You used Game as a source of information :lol: AHAHAHA
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#119 Roushrsh
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Kinda like how the PS3 was the only system that could do Final Fantasy 13?

And I love how much they tout Blu-Ray as being a reason they can make these games. It's just a freaking storage medium, not the hardware!

Fignewton50

ANY GAME can run on any console if sacrifices are made

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#120 AnnoyedDragon
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Actually, Kojima himself says otherwise.

xsubtownerx

Well whatever Kojima says doesn't go hand in hand with common sense.

If people honestly think MGS4 won't run on PC because "it is not as powerful as PS3" they are willfully ignorant and a blatant fanboy.

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#121 MojondeVACA
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Yeah thats why Gears2,RE5,FarCry 2,Crysis/WarHead look better than MGS4.
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#122 surrealnumber5
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pc is a system
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#123 omarguy01
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*looks at crysis*

are you sure? :?

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#124 jasonharris48
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I think the Wii could handle it if Konami put some effort into it, because Mario Galaxy's graphics are pretty much on par with MGS4.XenoNinja
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#125 IgorVitaly
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Crysis annihilates it beyond belief! its easily EASILY doing 10x more calculations on all fronts, MGS4 is more last-gen than now-gen...Crysis is next-gen and alone in that category by lightyears! Even Far Cry is doing way more

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#126 dsmccracken
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MGS4 on 360 = massive downgrade to the value of the PS3.

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Fixed.... and you're welcome.

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#127 MojondeVACA
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Same with FF13?oh wait is on xbox360 now it doesnt count anymore..i remember cows saying that FF13 looks better than KZ2 but now that is multiplat they dont bring that up anymore because they got owned after saying that the 360 can't handle FF13.
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#128 xsubtownerx
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]

Actually, Kojima himself says otherwise.

AnnoyedDragon

Well whatever Kojima says doesn't go hand in hand with common sense.

If people honestly think MGS4 won't run on PC because "it is not as powerful as PS3" they are willfully ignorant and a blatant fanboy.

That was my point. He has said it coul'd easily be done on the 360. So obviously it can easlily be done on the PC. And cows are in denial if they think it can't be done.

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Same with FF13?oh wait is on xbox360 now it doesnt count anymore..i remember cows saying that FF13 looks better than KZ2 but now that is multiplat they dont bring that up anymore because they got owned after saying that the 360 can't handle FF13.MojondeVACA

couple things, how does anyone know what FF13 looks like? Anyone who says that game looks better than KZ2 must have a time machine. The 360 can handle FF13, it can handle any game if its made for the system, what I want to know is if the devs have made any compromises...

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#130 cosmostein77
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I don't buy that hardware debate anymore,

For all intents and purposes 360 and PS3's graphics have generally just become a Coke or Pepsi debate.

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#131 surrealnumber5
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I don't buy that hardware debate anymore,

For all intents and purposes 360 and PS3's graphics have generally just become a Coke or Pepsi debate.

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coke for the win

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#132 POJO_MOFO
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a $1200 PC with Blu-Ray drive says "not so fast...." If you mean Wii or 360 then you are correct
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#133 Jade_Monkey
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a $1200 PC with Blu-Ray drive says "not so fast...." If you mean Wii or 360 then you are correctPOJO_MOFO

The really sad thing is about half of the cost of that $1200 PC is the Blu-Ray drive.

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#134 MojondeVACA
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a $1200 PC with Blu-Ray drive says "not so fast...." If you mean Wii or 360 then you are correctPOJO_MOFO


Yeah games like Gears 2,RE5 and FarCry that look way better than MGS4 are coming out for the 360,sure xbox360 can't handle MGS4 :roll: just like FF13.
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#135 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"]a $1200 PC with Blu-Ray drive says "not so fast...." If you mean Wii or 360 then you are correctJade_Monkey

The really sad thing is about half of the cost of that $1200 PC is the Blu-Ray drive.

yep a 600 pc (with out BR) built by a man that knows how to shop online>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>10x>>>>>>>>>>>>>ps3

dont try to give a value for each ">"

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#136 Teuf_
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I don't buy that hardware debate anymore,

For all intents and purposes 360 and PS3's graphics have generally just become a Coke or Pepsi debate.

cosmostein77


Thats probably the most profound thing I've ever read on this forum. Seriously.
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#137 Al3x_n90
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[QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"]a $1200 PC with Blu-Ray drive says "not so fast...." If you mean Wii or 360 then you are correctMojondeVACA


Yeah games like Gears 2,RE5 and FarCry that look way better than MGS4 are coming out for the 360,sure xbox360 can't handle MGS4 :roll: just like FF13.

OMG!!! so you've seen FFXIII?! omg...dude you must be from the future, i have not yet seen an in-game video with FFXIII, if u've seen it please give me a link i'm so curious lol

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#138 readingfc_1
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The only reason i can see a game like MGS4 not comming out on 360 is because it isn't planned. Unless MGS4 is badly coded, the 360 should be able to run it based on what we have seen from other games on the system so far. In it's current form a few bits of voice acting would need to be changed and the game would have to be on multiple discs but im sure its entirely possible.

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"]a $1200 PC with Blu-Ray drive says "not so fast...." If you mean Wii or 360 then you are correctAl3x_n90



Yeah games like Gears 2,RE5 and FarCry that look way better than MGS4 are coming out for the 360,sure xbox360 can't handle MGS4 :roll: just like FF13.

OMG!!! so you've seen FFXIII?! omg...dude you must be from the future, i have not yet seen an in-game video with FFXIII, if yo've seen it please give me a link i'm so curious lol

You've missed the sarcasm.

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#139 mr_mozilla
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There was a 360 gameplay vid of Farcry2 a while back, and to me it looked a lot nicer than MGS4. Them not being able to fit the game on DVD I don't believe for one second, compress the audio, use multiple dvds if it's alinear game and so on, where there's will there's a way.

[QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"]a $1200 PC with Blu-Ray drive says "not so fast...." If you mean Wii or 360 then you are correctJade_Monkey

The really sad thing is about half of the cost of that $1200 PC is the Blu-Ray drive.

Not really unless it's a burner, I've seen normal ones for about 100e.
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#140 Jade_Monkey
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Not really unless it's a burner, I've seen normal ones for about 100e.
mr_mozilla

Good point. I hadn't checked out prices in a while and a BR player will cost me $146.99 and a burner $284.99 (CAD).

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#141 Al3x_n90
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The only reason i can see a game like MGS4 not comming out on 360 is because it isn't planned. Unless MGS4 is badly coded, the 360 should be able to run it based on what we have seen from other games on the system so far. In it's current form a few bits of voice acting would need to be changed and the game would have to be on multiple discs but im sure its entirely possible.

[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"]a $1200 PC with Blu-Ray drive says "not so fast...." If you mean Wii or 360 then you are correctreadingfc_1



Yeah games like Gears 2,RE5 and FarCry that look way better than MGS4 are coming out for the 360,sure xbox360 can't handle MGS4 :roll: just like FF13.

OMG!!! so you've seen FFXIII?! omg...dude you must be from the future, i have not yet seen an in-game video with FFXIII, if yo've seen it please give me a link i'm so curious lol

You've missed the sarcasm.

He said just like FFXIII, whoever he saw saying 360 can't run FF is dumb cuz there are no in-game vids, just some crappy GCI trailer, he said just like FF13, yeah the 360 can run it but we don't know how it can run it, anyway FF13 on PC will own all, by the time it comes out hopefully i'll get a new super high-end pc, cuz i have a 2 year old one and i want something that can run crysis on high :P

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#142 DAZZER7
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I don't buy that hardware debate anymore,

For all intents and purposes 360 and PS3's graphics have generally just become a Coke or Pepsi debate.

cosmostein77

Absolutely. Most sensible post in the thread. Anyone who is nto a fanboy will see there is virtually no difference in the multiplats. One system has a better version of a multiplat then the next will be better on the other. Even the exclusives, the level of textures, lighting and number of polygons are roughly comparable. The PS3 and the XBox 360 are more evenly matched this generation than the Xbox and PS2 were last generation. A lot of you fanboys really need to take a step back and see this.

I mean, look at the resolutions of the games coming out. Both are struggling to do 720p let alone 1080p. Many games have been released at 620p, 600p and 575p! Now if one was significantly stronger than the other then you wouldn't be getting releases like this with the same gimped resolution on both systems.

...and of course a half decent PC liek mine would run MGS4 hugely better than the PS3 :lol:

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#144 MojondeVACA
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[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"]a $1200 PC with Blu-Ray drive says "not so fast...." If you mean Wii or 360 then you are correctAl3x_n90



Yeah games like Gears 2,RE5 and FarCry that look way better than MGS4 are coming out for the 360,sure xbox360 can't handle MGS4 :roll: just like FF13.

OMG!!! so you've seen FFXIII?! omg...dude you must be from the future, i have not yet seen an in-game video with FFXIII, if yo've seen it please give me a link i'm so curious lol



Well there's clips that show transitions from CGI to gameplay and also screenshots with hud that sony fanboys have been using before agains lemming to prove that xbox360 wasnt capable to run FF13.
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#147 dsmccracken
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OMG!!! so you've seen FFXIII?! omg...dude you must be from the future, i have not yet seen an in-game video with FFXIII, if u've seen it please give me a link i'm so curious lol

Al3x_n90

I hope you've been pointing out the same thing to time-travelling cows for the past 3 years... though oddly I just can't remember you in those million+ threads standing up for truth, justice, and the American way. Weird, huh?

And on that note:

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#148 MojondeVACA
Member since 2008 • 3916 Posts

Pics are pure BS, they can be modified and crap like that.Vids are the way to go.

Don't worry there is no difference, xbots always show a certain pic with GeOW2 and say: OMG GRAPHICS KING!!!

If you really want a comparison or a demonstration of game graphics, post a link to a damn in game vid

Al3x_n90


These screenshots most be BS too :shock:





oh and stop trolling please.

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#149 Al3x_n90
Member since 2007 • 2561 Posts
[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]

OMG!!! so you've seen FFXIII?! omg...dude you must be from the future, i have not yet seen an in-game video with FFXIII, if u've seen it please give me a link i'm so curious lol

dsmccracken

I hope you've been pointing out the same thing to time-travelling cows for the past 3 years... though oddly I just can't remember you in those million+ threads standing up for truth, justice, and the American way. Weird, huh?

Yeah i have :P anyway i don't give a damn about this damn SW, i saw thread that FF13 was exclusive again and the source article was 1 year old :lol:

Btw i'm not American i'm European8)

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#150 HuusAsking
Member since 2006 • 15270 Posts

Pics are pure BS, they can be modified and crap like that.Vids are the way to go.

Don't worry there is no difference, xbots always show a certain pic with GeOW2 and say: OMG GRAPHICS KING!!!

If you really want a comparison or a demonstration of game graphics, post a link to a damn in game vid

Al3x_n90
Vids can be doctored, too. The true test is the playable demo. That way the quality can be witnessed firsthand.