No other system can handle MGS4

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#151 Al3x_n90
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]

Pics are pure BS, they can be modified and crap like that.Vids are the way to go.

Don't worry there is no difference, xbots always show a certain pic with GeOW2 and say: OMG GRAPHICS KING!!!

If you really want a comparison or a demonstration of game graphics, post a link to a damn in game vid

MojondeVACA



These screenshots most be BS too :shock:



oh and stop trolling please.

I think of most screenshots as BS cuz they don't really prove how good a game looks, videos do, there u can actually see the game in motion

And i am trolling because...?

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#152 Al3x_n90
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]

Pics are pure BS, they can be modified and crap like that.Vids are the way to go.

Don't worry there is no difference, xbots always show a certain pic with GeOW2 and say: OMG GRAPHICS KING!!!

If you really want a comparison or a demonstration of game graphics, post a link to a damn in game vid

HuusAsking

Vids can be doctored, too. The true test is the playable demo. That way the quality can be witnessed firsthand.

Well yeah of course, but i'm talking about forum stuff, you know... anyway 1080p screen FTW!! :P

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#153 MojondeVACA
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[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]

Pics are pure BS, they can be modified and crap like that.Vids are the way to go.

Don't worry there is no difference, xbots always show a certain pic with GeOW2 and say: OMG GRAPHICS KING!!!

If you really want a comparison or a demonstration of game graphics, post a link to a damn in game vid

Al3x_n90



These screenshots most be BS too :shock:



oh and stop trolling please.

I think of most screenshots as BS cuz they don't really prove how good a game looks, videos do, there u can actually see the game in motion

And i am trolling because...?



I didnt post the screens to say the game looks good or bad just to prove you wrong after saying that screenshots were BS,u know right what u're doing..just read the board sticky and u will know why u're trolling.
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#154 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]

Pics are pure BS, they can be modified and crap like that.Vids are the way to go.

Don't worry there is no difference, xbots always show a certain pic with GeOW2 and say: OMG GRAPHICS KING!!!

If you really want a comparison or a demonstration of game graphics, post a link to a damn in game vid

Al3x_n90

Vids can be doctored, too. The true test is the playable demo. That way the quality can be witnessed firsthand.

Well yeah of course, but i'm talking about forum stuff, you know... anyway 1080p screen FTW!! :P

I am talking about forum stuff. You can have concept shots, concept videos, but you can't have a concept demo since you can't predict player actions.
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#155 bloodlust3192
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I didn't read through the thread, sorry, so I don't know if someone already said this but the 360 does have the technical capabilities of running MGS4. I don't remember where I read this, but there was an article saying that they ran a MGS4 demo on the 360, and that the PS3 wasn't as graphically/technically superior to the 360 as it was hyped to be. The only difference is that the content can't fit into a dvd. Once again, sorry, I don't have a source, you don't have to believe me. I'm just stating what I read.
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#156 Al3x_n90
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]

Pics are pure BS, they can be modified and crap like that.Vids are the way to go.

Don't worry there is no difference, xbots always show a certain pic with GeOW2 and say: OMG GRAPHICS KING!!!

If you really want a comparison or a demonstration of game graphics, post a link to a damn in game vid

MojondeVACA



These screenshots most be BS too :shock:



oh and stop trolling please.

I think of most screenshots as BS cuz they don't really prove how good a game looks, videos do, there u can actually see the game in motion

And i am trolling because...?



I didnt post the screens to say the game looks good or bad just to prove you wrong after saying that screenshots were BS,u know right what u're doing..just read the board sticky and u will know why u're trolling.

:|...omg i'm so guilty...whatever i don't get it

Anyway about the pics, yeah the pics look good but i prefer to see a game in motion, alright are you happy now?

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#157 Cipher92
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http://www.game.co.uk/News/?lid=9503&ad=17_07_2008

The PS3 is the only system that can have MGS4 because it is the only system that is capable of the game.

What are your thoughts guys?

Hoferman_PS3
My thoughts are "no other console can run FF13" and see what happened there. It's BS.
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#158 lhughey
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The PS3 and X360 have exhibited similar capabilities. I dont know why you guys think that MGS4 is any different. Any game can be run on either console.

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#159 IgorVitaly
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Pics are pure BS, they can be modified and crap like that.Vids are the way to go.

Don't worry there is no difference, xbots always show a certain pic with GeOW2 and say: OMG GRAPHICS KING!!!

If you really want a comparison or a demonstration of game graphics, post a link to a damn in game vid

Al3x_n90

Buffer grabs shows the true graphic... what most console fanboys cant take orrather cows...

Gears 2 gameplay E3 2008

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_8008_en.html´

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#160 nervmeister
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http://www.game.co.uk/News/?lid=9503&ad=17_07_2008

The PS3 is the only system that can have MGS4 because it is the only system that is capable of the game.

What are your thoughts guys?

Hoferman_PS3
In all confidence, I can safely say that current PC hardware can run MGS4 and keep it largely if not completely the same game.
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#161 IgorVitaly
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[QUOTE="Hoferman_PS3"]

http://www.game.co.uk/News/?lid=9503&ad=17_07_2008

The PS3 is the only system that can have MGS4 because it is the only system that is capable of the game.

What are your thoughts guys?

nervmeister

In all confidence, I can safely say that current PC hardware can run MGS4 and keep it largely if not completely the same game.

A low-end PC (3800+ and a 7900GT) would be able to run an enhanced MGS4 version at 1280x720 or higher resolution with better graphcis at 30-60fps. beats the sub-HD PS3 version that runs at 1158x665p (1024x768 4:3)

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#162 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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well it was made specifically for the ps3 so...

why do you think multiplats are better on 360? they're made on the 360 and the ps3 "can't handle them" because they're made on 360. it's just the way different machines work.

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#163 Teuf_
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A low-end PC (3800+ and a 7900GT) would be able to run an enhanced MGS4 version at 1280x720 or higher resolution with better graphcis at 30-60fps. beats the sub-HD PS3 version that runs at 1158x665p (1024x768 4:3)

IgorVitaly


The RSX is basically a 7900 GT. What makes you think the PC would somehow run it better?
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#164 MegaPigeon
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The only thing the PS3 can do more than any other console is take a game that looks somewhere between COD4 and Conflict Denied Ops and make people believe it's a god-send.
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#165 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

A low-end PC (3800+ and a 7900GT) would be able to run an enhanced MGS4 version at 1280x720 or higher resolution with better graphcis at 30-60fps. beats the sub-HD PS3 version that runs at 1158x665p (1024x768 4:3)

Teufelhuhn



The RSX is basically a 7900 GT. What makes you think the PC would somehow run it better?

1. More robust processor.

2. More dedicated graphics memory.

3. Wider graphics bus (RSX is 128-bit, most enthusiast graphics cards are 256-bit).

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#166 AnnoyedDragon
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The RSX is basically a 7900 GT. What makes you think the PC would somehow run it better?Teufelhuhn

Actually it is more like a custom 7800GTX, the 7900s were a more refined version that came out long after the hardware in the PS3 was finalized.

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#167 insanejedi
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Well PC but then you need a Blu ray drive i think.
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#168 AnnoyedDragon
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Well PC but then you need a Blu ray drive i think.insanejedi

PC installs all of its games to the HDD, making the number of disks irrelevant.

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#169 AvIdGaMeR444
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Cows think MGS4 is so amazingly revolutionary that they believe it can't be done on 360. :lol: So many people agree with this article. Do cows even realize that most multiplat games look better on 360? So, cows get an exclusive game with really great graphics and they automatically think this game cannot ever be done on the 360. This when 360 has proven itself over and over with graphics. But oh noez! Not with teh MGS4! That would be impossible on the 360. Right cows? :roll:
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#170 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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The only thing the PS3 can do more than any other console is take a game that looks somewhere between COD4 and Conflict Denied Ops and make people believe it's a god-send.MegaPigeon
Agreed.

Cows think MGS4 is the graphics king or whatever when its dosent even look better then resident evil 5 :lol:

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#171 Tacticity
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Of course it does boyscout reisent evil 5 dosent even go in real-time and that is the future of gaming. No matter if you want to belive it or not it is true. MGS4 will never go to any other platforms. Kojima has confirmed it himself.
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#172 IgorVitaly
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

A low-end PC (3800+ and a 7900GT) would be able to run an enhanced MGS4 version at 1280x720 or higher resolution with better graphcis at 30-60fps. beats the sub-HD PS3 version that runs at 1158x665p (1024x768 4:3)

HuusAsking



The RSX is basically a 7900 GT. What makes you think the PC would somehow run it better?

1. More robust processor.

2. More dedicated graphics memory.

3. Wider graphics bus (RSX is 128-bit, most enthusiast graphics cards are 256-bit).

Exactly.

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#173 HuusAsking
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Of course it does boyscout reisent evil 5 dosent even go in real-time and that is the future of gaming. No matter if you want to belive it or not it is true. MGS4 will never go to any other platforms. Kojima has confirmed it himself. Tacticity
Kojima has, but not Konami, who is Kojima's boss.
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#174 Tacticity
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It dosent matter Kojima is the one that calls the shots. Konami's director has approved him. Its Kojima's Call.
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#175 Chu_Chu_basic
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I think it's because Snake looks kinda like Phil Jackson...
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#176 HuusAsking
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It dosent matter Kojima is the one that calls the shots. Konami's director has approved him. Its Kojima's Call.
Tacticity
It does matter. Unless there's a contract in writing that says Kojima's word goes, Konami can still overrule him if they feel more money can be had in taking the game multiplat (particularly to the PC).
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#177 Bubblehash
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PC says hello in between it's laughing at you.
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#178 naruto7777
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thats terrible i guess no MGS4 360 version
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#179 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

MGS4 on 360 = massive downgrade to the value of the PS3.

dsmccracken

Fixed.... and you're welcome.

guess you didn't pass 'fanboy tactics 101'

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#180 leadernator
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[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]The only thing the PS3 can do more than any other console is take a game that looks somewhere between COD4 and Conflict Denied Ops and make people believe it's a god-send.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Agreed.

Cows think MGS4 is the graphics king or whatever when its dosent even look better then resident evil 5 :lol:

hey, so does gamepot :|

...and IGN :|

...and Gametrailers :|

Fanboys just love to ignore reviews i guess.

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#181 sdu_1111
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Still no reason not to bring it to PC, we got Blu-Ray.Jade_Monkey

show me ur blu ray drive then

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#182 sdu_1111
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

A low-end PC (3800+ and a 7900GT) would be able to run an enhanced MGS4 version at 1280x720 or higher resolution with better graphcis at 30-60fps. beats the sub-HD PS3 version that runs at 1158x665p (1024x768 4:3)

IgorVitaly



The RSX is basically a 7900 GT. What makes you think the PC would somehow run it better?

1. More robust processor.

2. More dedicated graphics memory.

3. Wider graphics bus (RSX is 128-bit, most enthusiast graphics cards are 256-bit).

Exactly.

then why isnt' MGS4 on the PC?

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#183 Nolan16
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lol this is still going on haha?
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#184 LagSwitch
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[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]I think the Wii could handle it if Konami put some effort into it, because Mario Galaxy's graphics are pretty much on par with MGS4.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Its good to see your back :P

Whats so great about his back?

Both of you are lemmings that like supporting fellow lemming comments.

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#185 PUG_NASTY
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super mario galaxy?....HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

BAN!
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#186 Dr-Doctor
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[QUOTE="IgorVitaly"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

A low-end PC (3800+ and a 7900GT) would be able to run an enhanced MGS4 version at 1280x720 or higher resolution with better graphcis at 30-60fps. beats the sub-HD PS3 version that runs at 1158x665p (1024x768 4:3)

sdu_1111



The RSX is basically a 7900 GT. What makes you think the PC would somehow run it better?

1. More robust processor.

2. More dedicated graphics memory.

3. Wider graphics bus (RSX is 128-bit, most enthusiast graphics cards are 256-bit).

Exactly.

then why isnt' MGS4 on the PC?

Because Sony secured an exclusive deal with Konami.

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#187 jaisimar_chelse
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[QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"]Still no reason not to bring it to PC, we got Blu-Ray.sdu_1111

show me ur blu ray drive then

do want more ?

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#188 DAZZER7
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[QUOTE="sdu_1111"]

[QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"]Still no reason not to bring it to PC, we got Blu-Ray.jaisimar_chelse

show me ur blu ray drive then

do want more ?

lol owned, so owned. Come on now, can we finally say...

/thread?

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#189 AlphaGamer469
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Because PC gamers want more then interactive movies...

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#190 Norule04
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Crysis annihilates it beyond belief! its easily EASILY doing 10x more calculations on all fronts, MGS4 is more last-gen than now-gen...Crysis is next-gen and alone in that category by lightyears!

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OKAY we get it. Now could you please stop mentioning crysis every time!

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#191 Darth_DuMas
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lol, using Game as a credible source, they suck as a UK chain store too. You can count on them to write rubbish and take PR qoutes too seriously.

All they said was "because of blu ray" (after you take the rubbish from around that quote). Not exactly news is it.

I thought this would be some fanboy arguement trying to convince everyone that it wouldn't work on the 360 or PC because of teh mighty Cell processor.

Edit: I think if MGS4 was ever ported to the PC for example, the only benefit the PS3 version would keep would be the uncompressed audio if it uses this. Which you would need blu-ray for.

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#192 Jyuusandaime
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And.....No other system can handle the PC. MGS4 will become easier to handle with the PC and will have better graphic quality. Speaking of graphics, can't the Plague Station 3 do any better right now aside from being the cheapest blu-ray player? :lol:

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#193 jaisimar_chelse
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[QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

Crysis annihilates it beyond belief! its easily EASILY doing 10x more calculations on all fronts, MGS4 is more last-gen than now-gen...Crysis is next-gen and alone in that category by lightyears!

Norule04

OKAY we get it. Now could you please stop mentioning crysis every time!

lol why is that when sum1 has to mention crysis that a gazillion screens have 2 follow ?

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#194 sdu_1111
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Why do hermits keep talkin about crysis?

i get the feeling that its the only good game they have

consolites have so much more to talk about

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#195 Grive
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Why do hermits keep talkin about crysis?

i get the feeling that its the only good game they have

consolites have so much more to talk about

sdu_1111

Because it's the prime example of the PC's graphical capabilities? Much like cows can't seem to shut up about KZ2's graphics and lems can't seem to shut up about GeoW2 graphics?.

Nahh... that would just make way too much sense.

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#196 jaisimar_chelse
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[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"][QUOTE="sdu_1111"]

[QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"]Still no reason not to bring it to PC, we got Blu-Ray.DAZZER7

show me ur blu ray drive then

do want more ?

lol owned, so owned. Come on now, can we finally say...

/thread?

/thread

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#197 mistervengeance
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The funny thing is that Cows said FF13 looked even better than MGS4 and Killzone 2 and would ultimately prove the superiority of the PS3.bungie93

really? who said that?

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#198 sdu_1111
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[QUOTE="DAZZER7"][QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"][QUOTE="sdu_1111"]

[QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"]Still no reason not to bring it to PC, we got Blu-Ray.jaisimar_chelse

show me ur blu ray drive then

do want more ?

lol owned, so owned. Come on now, can we finally say...

/thread?

/thread

THATS great. PC Does have a bluray drive .. alrite, go pop in MGS4 into your drive and see if ur PC runs it.

anyway do YOU really own a bluray drive ... a pic with your nick pls, not one ripped off the net.

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#199 Jyuusandaime
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Crysis annihilates it beyond belief! its easily EASILY doing 10x more calculations on all fronts, MGS4 is more last-gen than now-gen...Crysis is next-gen and alone in that category by lightyears!

jaisimar_chelse

OKAY we get it. Now could you please stop mentioning crysis every time!

lol why is that when sum1 has to mention crysis that a gazillion screens have 2 follow ?

After MGS4, comes Crysis....Again and again and again :lol:

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#200 HuusAsking
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lol, using Game as a credible source, they suck as a UK chain store too. You can count on them to write rubbish and take PR qoutes too seriously.

All they said was "because of blu ray" (after you take the rubbish from around that quote). Not exactly news is it.

I thought this would be some fanboy arguement trying to convince everyone that it wouldn't work on the 360 or PC because of teh mighty Cell processor.

Edit: I think if MGS4 was ever ported to the PC for example, the only benefit the PS3 version would keep would be the uncompressed audio if it uses this. Which you would need blu-ray for.

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Even that can be achieved on the PC. BluRay is not necessary for lossless audio. Just install FLAC-compressed or some other type of audio format with lossless compression, and the PC can play sounds just as hard as a PS3.