Now, THIS, my fellow console fanboys is playing an FPS with mouse and keyboard

Your wrong on so many levels.

First, the most obvious one. Here you state that contollers offer more realism. Your wrong. KB/M offers more realistic (1)"looking" and (2)"aiming". Your right about controllers offering more realistic forward/backward/sideway's movement in (3)terms of speed. But controllers get a 1 out of 3 on realism.

As for the "Guns have triggers, so do pads" comment, so totally irrelavant. As I mentioned before, your controller looks, nor feels anything close to a actually gun. So if you can imagine your controller being a gun, you can imagine your mouse as being the gun. Actually, this is such a stupid comment I don't even know why I am responding.

"Pads just offer up a more realitic experience in gaming. A mouse is great but doing 180 degree turns in a split second is not realitic. I perfer that it actually take time to turn just like in real life."

Now this comment I had to laugh at. Either you weigh 450lbs and just can't turn around in 1/2 second like most healthy people can, or your just grasping at straws. I can actually do a 180 with a rifle in under a half second and have a gun pointed realatively accurately at a target. This is near impossible for a controller, unlike which a KB/M combo can do. Again, KB/M much more realistic in this area that you seem so terribly concerned with.

AgentVX

• Analog look
• Analog Movement
• Analog Actions

• K+M offers only Analog look, but it has higher accuracy.

That's childish and against the rules. You can believe whatever makes you feel better. I'm not insecure about the level of intelligence in my posts so I'm glad I'm not you.
Stabby2486

Atleast I don't tell everyone they're not making valid points to warrant a response. Moron.

[QUOTE="ginazswordsman"][QUOTE="muscrat_01"]No there well known facts. Thank you.

The only one that is borderline is 3rdPS, but I stand that its better on PC - ala Max Payne, Total Overdose ect. - Both of which I have / had on PC and Xbox.

I`d call GeOW and Resi 4 more Action games than 3rdPS.
muscrat_01

LOL, now that's so realistic, isn't it.  I mean in order to switch my weapons I am going to have to stop looking around while I switch.  It's so realistic to stop movement/aiming while performing actions such as this.

/thread

The truth hurts. The fact that you have to lower yourself to making insults shows that you have absolutely nothing to offer me in the way of intelligent discussion.

I don't care if that upsets you, I'm not the one breaking the rules.

Posting solely to annoy other users     

That's a TOS violation, and telling everyone they're not making valid points to warrant a responese is very freakin' annoying.

[QUOTE="ginazswordsman"][QUOTE="muscrat_01"]No there well known facts. Thank you.

The only one that is borderline is 3rdPS, but I stand that its better on PC - ala Max Payne, Total Overdose ect. - Both of which I have / had on PC and Xbox.

I`d call GeOW and Resi 4 more Action games than 3rdPS.
muscrat_01

• In reality you can't switch weapons without taking you hand off the gun you are currently holding
• In reality you can't aim while reloading
• In reality you can't pick up another weapon in place of the weapon you holding while aiming

[QUOTE="AgentVX"]

Your wrong on so many levels.

First, the most obvious one. Here you state that contollers offer more realism. Your wrong. KB/M offers more realistic (1)"looking" and (2)"aiming". Your right about controllers offering more realistic forward/backward/sideway's movement in (3)terms of speed. But controllers get a 1 out of 3 on realism.

As for the "Guns have triggers, so do pads" comment, so totally irrelavant. As I mentioned before, your controller looks, nor feels anything close to a actually gun. So if you can imagine your controller being a gun, you can imagine your mouse as being the gun. Actually, this is such a stupid comment I don't even know why I am responding.

"Pads just offer up a more realitic experience in gaming. A mouse is great but doing 180 degree turns in a split second is not realitic. I perfer that it actually take time to turn just like in real life."

Now this comment I had to laugh at. Either you weigh 450lbs and just can't turn around in 1/2 second like most healthy people can, or your just grasping at straws. I can actually do a 180 with a rifle in under a half second and have a gun pointed realatively accurately at a target. This is near impossible for a controller, unlike which a KB/M combo can do. Again, KB/M much more realistic in this area that you seem so terribly concerned with.

ginazswordsman

• Analog look
• Analog Movement
• Analog Actions

• K+M offers only Analog look, but it has higher accuracy.

Good try but you are forgetting these facts:

Facts:

• In reality you can't switch weapons without taking you hand off the gun you are currently holding
• In reality you can't aim while reloading
• In reality you can't pick up another weapon in place of the weapon you holding while aiming

So the fact that using the face buttons gets in the way of your aiming is more realistic.

And you lied.

Doing those things mike make you not be able to aim but you can still move at the same time. I'm not going to respond to you if you keep posting lies.

Where the gun points doesn't define where I look.

The truth hurts. The fact that you have to lower yourself to making insults shows that you have absolutely nothing to offer me in the way of intelligent discussion.

I don't care if that upsets you, I'm not the one breaking the rules.
Stabby2486

Posting solely to annoy other users

That's a TOS violation, and telling everyone they're not making valid points to warrant a responese is very freakin' annoying.

[QUOTE="muscrat_01"][QUOTE="ginazswordsman"][QUOTE="muscrat_01"]No there well known facts. Thank you.

The only one that is borderline is 3rdPS, but I stand that its better on PC - ala Max Payne, Total Overdose ect. - Both of which I have / had on PC and Xbox.

I`d call GeOW and Resi 4 more Action games than 3rdPS.
AgentVX

LOL, now that's so realistic, isn't it. I mean in order to switch my weapons I am going to have to stop looking around while I switch. It's so realistic to stop movement/aiming while performing actions such as this.

/thread

I'm not posting solely to annoy anyone. If you find my posts annoying then stop talking to me or put me on ignore. Stop trying to hide the fact that you don't have an arguement.

Telling someone you just aren't going to respond to them isn't a freakin' arguement.

Good try but you are forgetting these facts:

Facts:

• In reality you can't switch weapons without taking you hand off the gun you are currently holding
• In reality you can't aim while reloading
• In reality you can't pick up another weapon in place of the weapon you holding while aiming

So the fact that using the face buttons gets in the way of your aiming is more realistic.

And you lied.

Doing those things mike make you not be able to aim but you can still move at the same time. I'm not going to respond to you if you keep posting lies.

Stabby2486

Where the gun points doesn't define where I look.

A. A mouse ISNT anolouge -and is far more accurate than any anolouge device in existance.

B. The way your turn depends on the game...... Quake vs Operation Flashpoint - big differences.
With a mouse you turn as quicly as you direct your hand, on a pad your LIMTED to a cetrain turning speed to avoid overaiming....... When you turn around in real life are you limited by a 'magical force'? No you turn as fast as you desire. That IS reality.

How about Trap shooters - they can do split second shots at speeding discs. To emulate a shot of that precision and speed with a controller is impossible. A Mouse can emulate that split second reaction and movement.
Another Reality Check.

C. Yes a Pad has a trigger - and I can use a pad on PC...... The only problem is that there are no realstic games on console, for this realstic element.
muscrat_01

Worthless. Where I point on a pad doesn't define where you look either. You are still doing the same thing, looking. Where you eyes are doesn't matter, the mouse looks, period. What you do with you eyes is a whole other story or are you going to try to argue that your eyes are part of the K+M?

I'm just not going to respond to you.

When I said that I meant where you look in the game. Kind of a "duh!" moment for you.

[QUOTE="AgentVX"]

Your wrong on so many levels.

First, the most obvious one. Here you state that contollers offer more realism. Your wrong. KB/M offers more realistic (1)"looking" and (2)"aiming". Your right about controllers offering more realistic forward/backward/sideway's movement in (3)terms of speed. But controllers get a 1 out of 3 on realism.

As for the "Guns have triggers, so do pads" comment, so totally irrelavant. As I mentioned before, your controller looks, nor feels anything close to a actually gun. So if you can imagine your controller being a gun, you can imagine your mouse as being the gun. Actually, this is such a stupid comment I don't even know why I am responding.

"Pads just offer up a more realitic experience in gaming. A mouse is great but doing 180 degree turns in a split second is not realitic. I perfer that it actually take time to turn just like in real life."

Now this comment I had to laugh at. Either you weigh 450lbs and just can't turn around in 1/2 second like most healthy people can, or your just grasping at straws. I can actually do a 180 with a rifle in under a half second and have a gun pointed realatively accurately at a target. This is near impossible for a controller, unlike which a KB/M combo can do. Again, KB/M much more realistic in this area that you seem so terribly concerned with.

ginazswordsman

• Analog look
• Analog Movement
• Analog Actions

• K+M offers only Analog look, but it has higher accuracy.

Clearly, the controller offers more.

Now please respond with facts instead of your opinionated nonsense.

So what if the controller doesn't look or feel like a gun. Neither does a mouse. The fact remains that guns DO have triggers, and so do controllers, THAT'S A FACT and it's more realistic.

And yes, people can turn very quickly in real life, you can also turn quickly in with a pad. However, with a mouse gamers turn in split second jerk movements which are NOT realitic. And while the pad is not perfect what it offers is at least more realistic than being able to turn around in a few microseconds. Face Reality.

OK, I see that your stuck on controllers, and no amount of facts will switch that for you.  Your entitled to YOUR opinion and I will respect that.

But lets get a few things straight here. 

1. Your in the minority who think controllers are better than KB/M. (KB/M)
2. While playing a FPS, speed and aiming are the most important factors whether you live or die, which BTW is utimately the sole reason of a FPS. (KB/M)
3. You have much more control with inventory (KB/M)
4. FPS have a much deeper seated fanbase with PC's users who use KB/M than consoles users who use controllers.  (KB/M)

It looks like the only thing that is important too you is realism, and hey, that's fine.  Personally I find KB/M more realistic, but again, the issue on realism is just an opinion.

I am leaving it at that, because you are really getting quite boring with the same points, in which a few I have agreed with (rumble being the main one), but your rant on realism is nothing but personal opinion, and still doesn't take away that speed and aiming in a FPS is the most important factor in whether you live or die in which the KB/M offers much better response.  But yeh, to each their own.

I'm not posting solely to annoy anyone. If you find my posts annoying then stop talking to me or put me on ignore. Stop trying to hide the fact that you don't have an arguement.
Stabby2486

Telling someone you just aren't going to respond to them isn't a freakin' arguement.

[QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

Good try but you are forgetting these facts:

Facts:

• In reality you can't switch weapons without taking you hand off the gun you are currently holding
• In reality you can't aim while reloading
• In reality you can't pick up another weapon in place of the weapon you holding while aiming

So the fact that using the face buttons gets in the way of your aiming is more realistic.

And you lied.

Doing those things mike make you not be able to aim but you can still move at the same time. I'm not going to respond to you if you keep posting lies.

ginazswordsman

Where the gun points doesn't define where I look.

You think me telling you that I'm not going to respond to you is an attempt to make an arguement?

Let me make this clear for you since you don't seem to understand.

I'm telling you I'm not going to respond to you because I wish to put an end to my discussion with you. Get it?

No, I said telling someone you aren't going to respond to them isn't an arguement. And why do you keep responding anyway?

Worthless. Where I point on a pad doesn't define where you look either. You are still doing the same thing, looking. Where you eyes are doesn't matter, the mouse looks, period. What you do with you eyes is a whole other story or are you going to try to argue that your eyes are part of the K+M?

I'm just not going to respond to you.
Stabby2486

When I said that I meant where you look in the game. Kind of a "duh!" moment for you.

[QUOTE="ginazswordsman"][QUOTE="AgentVX"]

Your wrong on so many levels.

First, the most obvious one. Here you state that contollers offer more realism. Your wrong. KB/M offers more realistic (1)"looking" and (2)"aiming". Your right about controllers offering more realistic forward/backward/sideway's movement in (3)terms of speed. But controllers get a 1 out of 3 on realism.

As for the "Guns have triggers, so do pads" comment, so totally irrelavant. As I mentioned before, your controller looks, nor feels anything close to a actually gun. So if you can imagine your controller being a gun, you can imagine your mouse as being the gun. Actually, this is such a stupid comment I don't even know why I am responding.

"Pads just offer up a more realitic experience in gaming. A mouse is great but doing 180 degree turns in a split second is not realitic. I perfer that it actually take time to turn just like in real life."

Now this comment I had to laugh at. Either you weigh 450lbs and just can't turn around in 1/2 second like most healthy people can, or your just grasping at straws. I can actually do a 180 with a rifle in under a half second and have a gun pointed realatively accurately at a target. This is near impossible for a controller, unlike which a KB/M combo can do. Again, KB/M much more realistic in this area that you seem so terribly concerned with.

AgentVX

• Analog look
• Analog Movement
• Analog Actions

• K+M offers only Analog look, but it has higher accuracy.

Clearly, the controller offers more.

Now please respond with facts instead of your opinionated nonsense.

So what if the controller doesn't look or feel like a gun. Neither does a mouse. The fact remains that guns DO have triggers, and so do controllers, THAT'S A FACT and it's more realistic.

And yes, people can turn very quickly in real life, you can also turn quickly in with a pad. However, with a mouse gamers turn in split second jerk movements which are NOT realitic. And while the pad is not perfect what it offers is at least more realistic than being able to turn around in a few microseconds. Face Reality.

OK, I see that your stuck on controllers, and no amount of facts will switch that for you. Your entitled to YOUR opinion and I will respect that.

But lets get a few things straight here.

1. Your in the minority who think controllers are better than KB/M. (KB/M)
2. While playing a FPS, speed and aiming are the most important factors whether you live or die, which BTW is utimately the sole reason of a FPS. (KB/M)
3. You have much more control with inventory (KB/M)
4. FPS have a much deeper seated fanbase with PC's users who use KB/M than consoles users who use controllers. (KB/M)

It looks like the only thing that is important too you is realism, and hey, that's fine. Personally I find KB/M more realistic, but again, the issue on realism is just an opinion.

I am leaving it at that, because you are really getting quite boring with the same points, in which a few I have agreed with (rumble being the main one), but your rant on realism is nothing but personal opinion, and still doesn't take away that speed and aiming in a FPS is the most important factor in whether you live or die in which the KB/M offers much better response. But yeh, to each their own.

1. I never said otherwise, I only pointed out the facts of the differences between the two.
   
2. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.
3. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.
4. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.

No, I said telling someone you aren't going to respond to them isn't an arguement. And why do you keep responding anyway?

Stabby2486

[QUOTE="ginazswordsman"][QUOTE="AgentVX"]

Your wrong on so many levels.

First, the most obvious one. Here you state that contollers offer more realism. Your wrong. KB/M offers more realistic (1)"looking" and (2)"aiming". Your right about controllers offering more realistic forward/backward/sideway's movement in (3)terms of speed. But controllers get a 1 out of 3 on realism.

As for the "Guns have triggers, so do pads" comment, so totally irrelavant. As I mentioned before, your controller looks, nor feels anything close to a actually gun. So if you can imagine your controller being a gun, you can imagine your mouse as being the gun. Actually, this is such a stupid comment I don't even know why I am responding.

"Pads just offer up a more realitic experience in gaming. A mouse is great but doing 180 degree turns in a split second is not realitic. I perfer that it actually take time to turn just like in real life."

Now this comment I had to laugh at. Either you weigh 450lbs and just can't turn around in 1/2 second like most healthy people can, or your just grasping at straws. I can actually do a 180 with a rifle in under a half second and have a gun pointed realatively accurately at a target. This is near impossible for a controller, unlike which a KB/M combo can do. Again, KB/M much more realistic in this area that you seem so terribly concerned with.

AgentVX

• Analog look
• Analog Movement
• Analog Actions

• K+M offers only Analog look, but it has higher accuracy.

Clearly, the controller offers more.

Now please respond with facts instead of your opinionated nonsense.

So what if the controller doesn't look or feel like a gun. Neither does a mouse. The fact remains that guns DO have triggers, and so do controllers, THAT'S A FACT and it's more realistic.

And yes, people can turn very quickly in real life, you can also turn quickly in with a pad. However, with a mouse gamers turn in split second jerk movements which are NOT realitic. And while the pad is not perfect what it offers is at least more realistic than being able to turn around in a few microseconds. Face Reality.

OK, I see that your stuck on controllers, and no amount of facts will switch that for you. Your entitled to YOUR opinion and I will respect that.

But lets get a few things straight here.

1. Your in the minority who think controllers are better than KB/M. (KB/M)
2. While playing a FPS, speed and aiming are the most important factors whether you live or die, which BTW is utimately the sole reason of a FPS. (KB/M)
3. You have much more control with inventory (KB/M)
4. FPS have a much deeper seated fanbase with PC's users who use KB/M than consoles users who use controllers. (KB/M)

It looks like the only thing that is important too you is realism, and hey, that's fine. Personally I find KB/M more realistic, but again, the issue on realism is just an opinion.

I am leaving it at that, because you are really getting quite boring with the same points, in which a few I have agreed with (rumble being the main one), but your rant on realism is nothing but personal opinion, and still doesn't take away that speed and aiming in a FPS is the most important factor in whether you live or die in which the KB/M offers much better response. But yeh, to each their own.

1. Please list the facts! Cmon wheres survery? At the miniumum you could suggest a GS poll - oh wait they all say M/KB is better for FPS.... Its well known that; and pads are your opinion.

[QUOTE="mr_pops238"]Controller>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mouse/keyboard. Fact.trix5817

He doesnt need to prove anything its 'fact' :P

This is pointless.

You are posting your opinions and no facts.

You can post all day long about that YOU think is best but the fact remains that the pad offers levels of accuracy that the K+M can not replicate.ginazswordsman

[QUOTE="ginazswordsman"][QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

Good try but you are forgetting these facts:

Facts:

• In reality you can't switch weapons without taking you hand off the gun you are currently holding
• In reality you can't aim while reloading
• In reality you can't pick up another weapon in place of the weapon you holding while aiming

So the fact that using the face buttons gets in the way of your aiming is more realistic.

And you lied.

Doing those things mike make you not be able to aim but you can still move at the same time. I'm not going to respond to you if you keep posting lies.

muscrat_01

Where the gun points doesn't define where I look.

[QUOTE="ginazswordsman"]This is pointless.

You are posting your opinions and no facts.

You can post all day long about that YOU think is best but the fact remains that the pad offers levels of accuracy that the K+M can not replicate.TNT_Slug

[QUOTE="muscrat_01"][QUOTE="ginazswordsman"][QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

Good try but you are forgetting these facts:

Facts:

• In reality you can't switch weapons without taking you hand off the gun you are currently holding
• In reality you can't aim while reloading
• In reality you can't pick up another weapon in place of the weapon you holding while aiming

So the fact that using the face buttons gets in the way of your aiming is more realistic.

And you lied.

Doing those things mike make you not be able to aim but you can still move at the same time. I'm not going to respond to you if you keep posting lies.

ginazswordsman

Where the gun points doesn't define where I look.

aiming with a mouse any newb can do that its just point and click, aiming with a pad is a hell of alot harder and that a good thingdawso0n

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

I refuse to even touch CoD on consoles. CoD isn't a game where you need to hit someone four times with a battle rifle to kill them. In Halo if you snuck up behind four guys you can't kill them with one machine gun clip in CoD you can. You are not gonna kill four guys before they can turn around and shoot you with a controller.

Playing CoD 2 on 360 was like controlling a tank.
dimar19

I also prefer using a gamepad.  It's not as accurate but it's more comfortable imo (not bashing the KB+mouse or anything).

[QUOTE="dawso0n"]aiming with a mouse any newb can do that its just point and click, aiming with a pad is a hell of alot harder and that a good thingmuscrat_01

I hate autoaim on console shooters.  I always disable it if I can.

[QUOTE="muscrat_01"][QUOTE="dawso0n"]aiming with a mouse any newb can do that its just point and click, aiming with a pad is a hell of alot harder and that a good thingChaos_Daro

I hate autoaim on console shooters. I always disable it if I can.

Reasons I like the K+M

1. Aiming is fantasic

Reasons I dislike the K+M

1. No analog movement
2. No analog grenade throwing
3. No analog trigger for shooting
4. Not confortable
5. Unhealthy for your hands
6. Sucks because no rumble, in real life when you shoot a gun it kicks back
7. Sucks for just about every single god damn type of game except for shooters
8. It sucks. Thanks god Games for Windows will have 360 controller support
9. People who swear by the K+M tend to suck
10. Get real, the K+M was not even designed for gaming so don't make me laugh. It sucks.
    

ginazswordsman

I've seen some strange presumtions in this thread:

1. Gaming is about skill.

2. every console shooter has aim assist and/or bigger hitboxes.

As you would've guessed, they're both wrong unless you are a proffessional gamer.

1. I never said otherwise, I only pointed out the facts of the differences between the two.
   
2. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.
3. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.
4. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.

I agree this has gotten very boring.
ginazswordsman

I'm just going to end this now because you arguments are so boring to read and have no meaning.

FACT: Games are meant to have fun that is why they are called games. WHich means you points on 'realism' such as taking your hand off the gun have no relevence in the debate.

FACT: You admit yourself that KB/Mouse is better for Aiming.

FACT: FPS games is where you aim at people and shoot them

FACT: Any system that allows you to aim at people better must be the better for that type of game.

FACT: Using your own logic I can prove as FACT that the KB/mouse is better.

Now respond to my arguments in your own childish way saying ' that is not allowed!!!, that is opinion!!! Obviously my opinion is so much more important and my intelligence is far superior!!!' Go Cry some more baby and let the real gamers get on having fun in the games: FACT!

[QUOTE="ginazswordsman"]

1. I never said otherwise, I only pointed out the facts of the differences between the two.
   
2. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.
3. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.
4. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.

I agree this has gotten very boring.
james24gmail

I'm just going to end this now because you arguments are so boring to read and have no meaning.

FACT: Games are meant to have fun that is why they are called games. WHich means you points on 'realism' such as taking your hand off the gun have no relevence in the debate.

FACT: You admit yourself that KB/Mouse is better for Aiming.

FACT: FPS games is where you aim at people and shoot them

FACT: Any system that allows you to aim at people better must be the better for that type of game.

FACT: Using your own logic I can prove as FACT that the KB/mouse is better.

Now respond to my arguments in your own childish way saying ' that is not allowed!!!, that is opinion!!! Obviously my opinion is so much more important and my intelligence is far superior!!!' Go Cry some more baby and let the real gamers get on having fun in the games: FACT!

[QUOTE="james24gmail"][QUOTE="ginazswordsman"]

1. I never said otherwise, I only pointed out the facts of the differences between the two.
   
2. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.
3. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.
4. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.

I agree this has gotten very boring.
Conker-Fan

I'm just going to end this now because you arguments are so boring to read and have no meaning.

FACT: Games are meant to have fun that is why they are called games. WHich means you points on 'realism' such as taking your hand off the gun have no relevence in the debate.

FACT: You admit yourself that KB/Mouse is better for Aiming.

FACT: FPS games is where you aim at people and shoot them

FACT: Any system that allows you to aim at people better must be the better for that type of game.

FACT: Using your own logic I can prove as FACT that the KB/mouse is better.

Now respond to my arguments in your own childish way saying ' that is not allowed!!!, that is opinion!!! Obviously my opinion is so much more important and my intelligence is far superior!!!' Go Cry some more baby and let the real gamers get on having fun in the games: FACT!

Try playing Counterstrike, the most played online game ever, inc any console game. You try saying that being more accurate is not better in that game? Ah also, stealth is even in CS when you walk you become quiter and less easy to hear. Oops, with one game i seem to have negated both your points. Try again?

[QUOTE="james24gmail"][QUOTE="ginazswordsman"]

1. I never said otherwise, I only pointed out the facts of the differences between the two.
   
2. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.
3. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.
4. I never said otherwise, and that doesn't change the facts about the differences between the two.

I agree this has gotten very boring.
Conker-Fan

I'm just going to end this now because you arguments are so boring to read and have no meaning.

FACT: Games are meant to have fun that is why they are called games. WHich means you points on 'realism' such as taking your hand off the gun have no relevence in the debate.

FACT: You admit yourself that KB/Mouse is better for Aiming.

FACT: FPS games is where you aim at people and shoot them

FACT: Any system that allows you to aim at people better must be the better for that type of game.

FACT: Using your own logic I can prove as FACT that the KB/mouse is better.

Now respond to my arguments in your own childish way saying ' that is not allowed!!!, that is opinion!!! Obviously my opinion is so much more important and my intelligence is far superior!!!' Go Cry some more baby and let the real gamers get on having fun in the games: FACT!

No ones taking me up on the cs battle?

My xfire username is Daniel56

Anyone that supports the gamepad, please hook one up to your computer, set it up for counterstrike, send me a message on xfire, and lets go 1 on 1.

You pads wont touch me.
Cloud1010