NPD January 2013 - Holy f*cking sh*t Wii U at 57K lol - Vita around 35K

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Poor Wii-U. 

Poor Vita.

At least Nintendo can still eke out a decent market if they get their sh!t together in the next few months. The Vita, though... Man.

Obligatory old link for anyone who wants a good laugh at the Vita and IGN.

Blue_Shield

Except, it was'nt. More like foresight was 20/20.

There were people, even before launch, saying Vita might be in trouble, because of the change in the mobile market, and Sony was making the same mistakes with the Vita that they had with the PSP.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

360 is only selling in america because is american confirmed ^^^

And then they come talk about japanese consoles selling better in japan, calling japanese xenophobic...

Cubs360

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Clearly, as you can see, you are right. The Japanese just do not like American products. I mean, it could not possibly be that the Xbox 360 just does not appeal to the Japanese.

[QUOTE="Cubs360"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"] The problem with that logic is that the PS3 sells well EVERYWHERE( maybe not #1, but still great numbers)... and the 360 sells like complete dog sh!t in japan..Blue_Shield

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Clearly, as you can see, you are right. The Japanese just do not like American products. I mean, it could not possibly be that the Xbox 360 just does not appeal to the Japanese.

They do seem to be somewhat biased. Some of that does have to do with a lack of *quality* Japanese-centric games. Still, you have to admit, it's a bit of an anomily that the 360 and PS3 compete neck-and-neck in EU and the US, but the 360 can't sell at all in Japan.

I honestly don't expect MS to try very hard in Japan next gen. I think they will just focus on China, EU, and the US. I could be wrong on that... it's just a hunch.

[QUOTE="Blue_Shield"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Poor Wii-U. 

Poor Vita.

At least Nintendo can still eke out a decent market if they get their sh!t together in the next few months. The Vita, though... Man.

Obligatory old link for anyone who wants a good laugh at the Vita and IGN.

cainetao11

Except, it was'nt. More like foresight was 20/20.

There were people, even before launch, saying Vita might be in trouble, because of the change in the mobile market, and Sony was making the same mistakes with the Vita that they had with the PSP.

Software sells hardware.

This talk of gigabytes and HDD is not relevant in the large scheme of things. It's about hit software and mass market appeal/price of hardware. People bought Wii Fit in droves at $100, they can afford a memory card.

1. Sony's 1st party is the weakest of the bunch, and they give their handhelds the side-treatment. The guys who did Galaxy 1 and 2 also did 3D Land which sold 8 million units on 3DS so far and helped recover the system.

2. Sony let Nintendo get away with Japanese 3rd parties; the only ones supporting handhelds, which means you've got no 1st party and no 3rd party, huh.

I knew what would happen once I read the title of this thread.

Bad numbers, doomed, ppl capitalizing on it to make a knock on Ninty, etc. etc.

Classic SW should stay classy. ;)

I'll just play the waiting game. All this crap about Vita or WiiU going over are just hot air as far as I'm concerned.

They do seem to be somewhat biased. Some of that does have to do with a lack of *quality* Japanese-centric games. Still, you have to admit, it's a bit of an anomily that the 360 and PS3 compete neck-and-neck in EU and the US, but the 360 can't sell at all in Japan.

I honestly don't expect MS to try very hard in Japan next gen. I think they will just focus on China, EU, and the US. I could be wrong on that... it's just a hunch.StormyJoe

As shown, Japanese do have a love for American products. It just depends on what it is, and if it appeals to them. Same as anywhere else. I mean, there's a reason the phrase "Big in Japan" was coined.

Personally, I contribute it to differences in markets, and Microsoft's poor decisions.

Otherwise, not unheard of for a product to be popular in one or two regions, but be unpopular in another.

Wii U 57K confirmed

Thefatness16

Honestly, I'm not too surprised. First Party is currently lacking, so the major selling point is getting games you can already play on the 360 or PS3. The Tablet is not going to be the second coming of motion control.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Where you come from? Sorry to hear that. Here in the USA, we enjoy the status as the only global superpower. You know, the country that can shape the rest of the world through political, economic, or military means.

It's awesome here; you'd be welcome.

StormyJoe

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Pathetic country timbers_WSU

:lol: at the wiiu sales... whats spin did the sheep use this time around?

Ni no Kuni was at #11 on the software chart.

Slashkice

not bad considering Ni no kuni came out Jan. 22nd. 

360 is doing very well.  NO need to release a new console.

[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="Blue_Shield"]Of course, some will say hindsight is 20/20.

Except, it was'nt. More like foresight was 20/20.

There were people, even before launch, saying Vita might be in trouble, because of the change in the mobile market, and Sony was making the same mistakes with the Vita that they had with the PSP.

SuperFlakeman

Software sells hardware.

This talk of gigabytes and HDD is not relevant in the large scheme of things. It's about hit software and mass market appeal/price of hardware. People bought Wii Fit in droves at $100, they can afford a memory card.

1. Sony's 1st party is the weakest of the bunch, and they give their handhelds the side-treatment. The guys who did Galaxy 1 and 2 also did 3D Land which sold 8 million units on 3DS so far and helped recover the system.

2. Sony let Nintendo get away with Japanese 3rd parties; the only ones supporting handhelds, which means you've got no 1st party and no 3rd party, huh.

"Vita around 35K". Holly Cow. How low can it go...

Poor Wii-U. 

Poor Vita.

At least Nintendo can still eke out a decent market if they get their sh!t together in the next few months. The Vita, though... Man.

Obligatory old link for anyone who wants a good laugh at the Vita and IGN.

DarkLink77

:lol: at the wiiu sales... whats spin did the sheep use this time around?

Pete-B

360 is doing very well.  NO need to release a new console.

jimmypsn

[QUOTE="Pete-B"]

:lol: at the wiiu sales... whats spin did the sheep use this time around?

Xaero_Gravity

They definitely shouldn't be the only ones that say that.

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]They do seem to be somewhat biased. Some of that does have to do with a lack of *quality* Japanese-centric games. Still, you have to admit, it's a bit of an anomily that the 360 and PS3 compete neck-and-neck in EU and the US, but the 360 can't sell at all in Japan.

I honestly don't expect MS to try very hard in Japan next gen. I think they will just focus on China, EU, and the US. I could be wrong on that... it's just a hunch.Blue_Shield

As shown, Japanese do have a love for American products. It just depends on what it is, and if it appeals to them. Same as anywhere else. I mean, there's a reason the phrase "Big in Japan" was coined.

Personally, I contribute it to differences in markets, and Microsoft's poor decisions.

Otherwise, not unheard of for a product to be popular in one or two regions, but be unpopular in another.

360 is doing very well.  NO need to release a new console.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Giancar"]Themajormajor is from Sweden. Anyways, guess we'll have to wait a moment for the other numbers to show up.blue_hazy_basic

:lol: at the wiiu sales... whats spin did the sheep use this time around?

Pete-B

as you notice there was nothing new released for the wiiu  since launch but once those games come ,  you know darn well they are coming , nintendo has time! because they released early i dont see why u sony fanboys and ms fanboys get so up tight when nintnedos systems go off to a slow start but the vita SOME HOW DOESNt get the same attention yet its selling less then both wiiu and its main competitor 3ds , which is pretty funny by  the way how much units did the original wii sales and ds sell 3ds as well remember nintendo has 4 peices of hardware for parents to choose from , 

and right now 3ds is the best option until wiiu gets those killer titles people want , 

it makes sense,  to bad no body around here uses sense,  

they just continue to slam what ever console they want against a wall for any stupid reason 

wiiu is still profitable with 1 game sold ,  and thats all that matters, 

cant say the same about ps3 can we,   yet it still came out alright , 

i still dont get why every console has to be like a ps2 wii or ps1 , to get the respect around here,  

oh wait wii never got that,     

so again ,    theres no need to spin anything facts are facts ,  you play sales fine i play games ,  

so scootch off 

Its becoming really clear to me that once the PS4 and 720 are announced, its not ever gonna be fair. ALL hype will be for those 2 consoles. Wii U will fade into oblivion

Its becoming really clear to me that once the PS4 and 720 are announced, its not ever gonna be fair. ALL hype will be for those 2 consoles. Wii U will fade into oblivion

AdamPA1006

There is a chance both of those consoles could have poor launch numbers to like the WiiU.

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Its becoming really clear to me that once the PS4 and 720 are announced, its not ever gonna be fair. ALL hype will be for those 2 consoles. Wii U will fade into oblivion

super600

There is a chance both of those consoles could have poor launch numbers to like the WiiU.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Its becoming really clear to me that once the PS4 and 720 are announced, its not ever gonna be fair. ALL hype will be for those 2 consoles. Wii U will fade into oblivion

fernandmondego_

There is a chance both of those consoles could have poor launch numbers to like the WiiU.

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="super600"]

There is a chance both of those consoles could have poor launch numbers to like the WiiU.

nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Its becoming really clear to me that once the PS4 and 720 are announced, its not ever gonna be fair. ALL hype will be for those 2 consoles. Wii U will fade into oblivion

fernandmondego_

There is a chance both of those consoles could have poor launch numbers to like the WiiU.

There are many factors that can influence how a console is received at launch. One of the factors is price. If the price of a console is way tohigh when it is released no one will buy it. The WiiU's price was kinda high and no one barely bought it at launch and is currently buying it.The economy is another one. The US economy even though it's recoverying it's recovering really slow and the US could potentially be in another recession in a year or so because of multiple factors.Also the software support and the movement of the casual market away from console. This will affect all big three's sales numbers next gen.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]If a $600 PS3 could do better, i seriously doubt they will. These are monumentally bad numbers.fernandmondego_

Even the Vita is still selling like ass due to some pricing.

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="super600"]

There is a chance both of those consoles could have poor launch numbers to like the WiiU.

super600

There are many factors that can influence how a console is received at launch. One of the factors is price. If the price of a console is way tohigh when it is released no one will buy it. The WiiU's price was kinda high and no one barely bought it at launch and is currently buying it.The economy is another one. The US economy even though it's recoverying it's recovering really slow and the US could potentially be in another recession in a year or so because of multiple factors.Also the software support and the movement of the casual market away from console. This will affect all big three's sales numbers next gen.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="fernandmondego_"] Everything is doing just fine 'cept for the WiiU and Vita, the economy has nothing to do with it. fernandmondego_

Sony still had quite a bit more fans that were willing to buy their console at that high of a price compared to how many Nintendo had after N64 and GameCube.

Not to mention Nintendo's a freaking controversial mess, so do you expect anyone that wants them to do well outside of a few hopefuls (myself included)? Everyone else wants to see them multiplatform, but as I said before, it won't help them at all. It would end up backfiring like every other time Nintendo tried to fix complaints, thus making them in a just as bad, if not worse than what SEGA is dealing with.

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] But it's because prices are lower for certain items, something Nintendo can't afford with Wii U. Who's going to spend $400+ on something this day in age?nintendoboy16

Sony still had quite a bit more fans that were willing to buy their console at that high of a price compared to how many Nintendo had after N64 and GameCube.

Not to mention Nintendo's a freaking controversial mess, so do you expect anyone that wants them to do well outside of a few hopefuls (myself included)? Everyone else wants to see them multiplatform, but as I said before, it won't help them at all. It would end up backfiring like every other time Nintendo tried to fix complaints.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"] The prices are pretty close and they were actually higher before and still never did the PS3 and 360 ever put up such bad numbers. Not in 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13...fernandmondego_

Sony still had quite a bit more fans that were willing to buy their console at that high of a price compared to how many Nintendo had after N64 and GameCube.

Not to mention Nintendo's a freaking controversial mess, so do you expect anyone that wants them to do well outside of a few hopefuls (myself included)? Everyone else wants to see them multiplatform, but as I said before, it won't help them at all. It would end up backfiring like every other time Nintendo tried to fix complaints.

Yet again, WHEN Nintendo gets third party support, sparks end up flying in a bad way (don't need to point out any examples anymore).

How can it be "hurting them to go third party" when their past struggles (N64 and GameCube) never made them lose as much money as SEGA with theirs (SEGA CD, 32X, Saturn, Dreamcast)? Even their Wii sales prevent that.

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] That's because things were better back then.

Sony still had quite a bit more fans that were willing to buy their console at that high of a price compared to how many Nintendo had after N64 and GameCube.

Not to mention Nintendo's a freaking controversial mess, so do you expect anyone that wants them to do well outside of a few hopefuls (myself included)? Everyone else wants to see them multiplatform, but as I said before, it won't help them at all. It would end up backfiring like every other time Nintendo tried to fix complaints.

nintendoboy16

Yet again, WHEN Nintendo gets third party support, sparks end up flying in a bad way (don't need to point out any examples anymore).

How can it be "hurting them to go third party" when their past struggles (N64 and GameCube) never made them lose as much money as SEGA with theirs (SEGA CD, 32X, Saturn, Dreamcast)? Even their Wii sales prevent that.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]Better? Really? When unemployment was over 10%? Still not buying it hurting them to go 3rd party and they didn't try to fix any complaints. No third party, weak hardware...fernandmondego_

Yet again, WHEN Nintendo gets third party support, sparks end up flying in a bad way (don't need to point out any examples anymore).

How can it be "hurting them to go third party" when their past struggles (N64 and GameCube) never made them lose as much money as SEGA with theirs (SEGA CD, 32X, Saturn, Dreamcast)? Even their Wii sales prevent that.

Just because Activision makes a lot of money being multiplat, doesn't mean Nintendo will. Activision's games have an appeal across the board, Nintendo does not and never will.

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Numerous reports, despite showing lower unemployment rate pretty much show a worse economy.

Yet again, WHEN Nintendo gets third party support, sparks end up flying in a bad way (don't need to point out any examples anymore).

How can it be "hurting them to go third party" when their past struggles (N64 and GameCube) never made them lose as much money as SEGA with theirs (SEGA CD, 32X, Saturn, Dreamcast)? Even their Wii sales prevent that.

nintendoboy16

Just because Activision makes a lot of money being multiplat, doesn't mean Nintendo will. Activision's games have an appeal across the board, Nintendo does not and never will.

25th month in a row the XBOX360 has owned NA. Don't see that trend stopping any time soon and it will probably pass the Wii in NA sales by this summer. LMAO at the Wii U. I'm pretty sure Nintendo has yet to sell out of their initial 3.5 million unit launch. Wondering now if they will even meet that 4 million number by end of March. Doubtful if these sales continue.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]Yeah, no. The economy is not as bad as it used to be. Comparing them to SEGA is pointless. Look how much Activision makes by selling to all gamers.fernandmondego_

Just because Activision makes a lot of money being multiplat, doesn't mean Nintendo will. Activision's games have an appeal across the board, Nintendo does not and never will.

No, Nintendo games don't have that broad of an appeal. The audiences on a PlayStation/XBOX aren't even the freaking same. Expect less sales out of their games, be it their (current) triforce (Mario/Zelda/Pokemon), or other IP (Metroid/F-Zero/Donkey Kong/Kirby).

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]How is it pointless? SEGA was a former first party that had quite a bit of respect, even in it's final days. But when they went third party, lost most of it (won't repeat the reasons why) to the point of their own fans hating them. What makes you think it won't happen to Ninty?

Just because Activision makes a lot of money being multiplat, doesn't mean Nintendo will. Activision's games have an appeal across the board, Nintendo does not and never will.

nintendoboy16

No, Nintendo games don't have that broad of an appeal. The audiences on a PlayStation/XBOX aren't even the freaking same. Expect less sales out of their games, be it their (current) triforce (Mario/Zelda/Pokemon), or other IP (Metroid/F-Zero/Donkey Kong/Kirby).

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]How is it pointless? SEGA was a former first party that had quite a bit of respect, even in it's final days. But when they went third party, lost most of it (won't repeat the reasons why) to the point of their own fans hating them. What makes you think it won't happen to Ninty?

Just because Activision makes a lot of money being multiplat, doesn't mean Nintendo will. Activision's games have an appeal across the board, Nintendo does not and never will.

No, Nintendo games don't have that broad of an appeal. The audiences on a PlayStation/XBOX aren't even the freaking same. Expect less sales out of their games, be it their (current) triforce (Mario/Zelda/Pokemon), or other IP (Metroid/F-Zero/Donkey Kong/Kirby).

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"] 2 different companies in different situations.  Nintendo games do have appeal across the board.

No, Nintendo games don't have that broad of an appeal. The audiences on a PlayStation/XBOX aren't even the freaking same. Expect less sales out of their games, be it their (current) triforce (Mario/Zelda/Pokemon), or other IP (Metroid/F-Zero/Donkey Kong/Kirby).