October 2015 NPD Official Thread || XB1 Won! Halo 5 #1!!

Besides the halo 5 numbers, the two next gen consoles selling not as well as predicted this month and possibly none of the big releases breaking a million copies sold in October I still think one of the most shocking/weirdest things in the NPD for october was Yoshi WW charting higher the Uncharted NDC.Did anyone expect that here?

But you see, they didn't lie about revenue. That's the point. They did, however, make it so that you couldn't guess how much of those sales were actually sold copies of Halo. That's the point I'm trying to get across to you. You can sit her and calculate all you want, but at the end of the day, your numbers will never add up. It is completely unrealistic to believe Halo sold more than 4 million in 7 days and MS keeps that quiet, while Halo 3 made 3.3 million in 12 days. It's a record shattering statistic.

Also it wasn't somewhat of a drought . It was a drought, period. When a system doesn't have a worthwhile game for more than 8 or 9 months, it's a drought. An exceptional drought.

And you're putting your fingers in your ears yelling lalalalala when actual sales are sitting right in front of your face. The charts do not lie.

Yes they can.

http://innov8tiv.com/microsoft-lied-the-surface-book-is-not-twice-as-fast-as-the-macbook-pro/

Really? How can I verify that? What records are you looking at? Are you assuming they flew off the shelves? And if they did, did they sell out? How do you know?

Sure they can claim they were sold. They sold them to retailers. And when retailers asked for more, they sold some more again. What's so hard?

And like I said, do you actually think that controller's, Limited Edition console's, Limited Collector's Edition's and REQ packs make up over $300,000,000 of that $400,000,000? Dude come on, I don't care if the number is hidden because frankly none of us including you nor I know why it is, it could be due to simple policy changes, the point is we don't know.

But do you actually think those other things made up that $300,000,000+ void? I mean really.... Of course not, that leaves only one possible outcome and we've been through it tirelessly.

I didn't expect Uncharted to chart, no pun intended. It's a collection of games that were missing the multiplayer components. Not a lot of people digged that.

Seems that PS4 is 276k

Down YoY in 21k units.

Combined sales of the systems was 580k so xbone still only won by 30k with its biggest exclusive launching against nothing.

I'll make it simple for you, all of these retail outlets in my area had several hundred copies available at launch, that's not an enigma, that's not a rarity, the game was over-compensated for drastically at release everywhere. If Microsoft reported their sold in numbers for Halo 5 and its hardware it would be in the billions, not hundreds of millions...

That ends that...

Why do you take everything m$ says as gospel and think everyone else is lying? It's m$ dude. The company that hasn't stopped spinning since May 2013.

I will take the word of a four decade old publicly traded corporation required to share revenue sources over forum warriors any day of the week.

Actually my question is what else are they considering as "Halo 5 revenue" besides consoles and controllers. Also, MS can most certainly report Sell-In numbers and not be lying. Did activision get in trouble for it. Heck no, what they did was legal, although misleading. You're telling me you believe MS so blindly that you're willing to say they'd never do it?

http://www.gameinformer.com/themes/blogs/generic/post.aspx?WeblogApp=news&y=2013&m=11&d=06&WeblogPostName=activision-boasts-1-billion-in-call-of-duty-ghosts-to-retail-sales&GroupKeys=

What Activision is reporting is “sell-in.” Those are revenues generated by payments made by retailers (not by customers). Depending on sales at the counter, that number might be revised down, as sell-in agreements typically include provisions for retailers to return a portion of unsold stock at a pre-arranged cutoff point.

Haha anecdotal evidence is the end of your argument. That's what you have?

So you don't take your own word?

I would have expected it sell a bit better than it did physically because of the ps4 userbase. i did not expect yoshi to beat uncharted because the ps4 install base is higher than the WiiU's and uncharted is now a more popular franchise than the yoshi franchise.

Wow a difference of 29k? @nyadc how is MS supposed to take over the world by the end of the year at this pace?

If any of it did sell, it would have been in those bundles. I see what you mean but consumers spoke on what they consider a master should look like.

Anecdotal? Please don't be so stupid. Do you think stores and online retailers stocked 1 copy of Halo 5 each? Do you think that these millions of stores and outlets across the planet only had one copy and some people didn't buy that one copy? No, they stock likely 10 to 200 depending on how large of a retailer it is and the demand expected, the game had billions and billions of dollars in sold in copies and hardware available during its first week. If Microsoft wanted to report sold in figures it would be in the billions like I said, not hundreds of millions.

This is common sense based upon empirical evidence, this isn't anecdotal.

Oh, we're up to billions. Fantastic

Yep anecdotal. Nothing to see here folks. Move along.

Sigh...

"Anecdotal evidence is evidence from anecdotes. Where only one or a few anecdotes are presented, there is a larger chance that they may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise non-representative samples of typical cases."

You: "all of these retail outlets in my areahad several hundred copies available at launch, that's not an enigma, that's not a rarity, the game was over-compensated for drastically at release everywhere."

You are suggesting that because your area was supposedly overstocked with copies, that all other stores around the country did the same and sold just as much. For someone calling everyone stupid, you sure are stupid...

What do you mean?

So, Halo 5 is disappointment sales wise? Damn, i expected more. And only around 30k difference between PS4 and Xbone.

@quadknight: Me butthurt? I don't play the sales game, I just laugh at the ones who do. I'm afraid you're the one who lost his shit because MS won one month in the US.

Don't fret though, I'm sure Sony will be back on top shortly, but in the meantime you might want to use this to help you out. It should last a month, and if MS somehow wins again next month, i'll send you a new dose.

@Zero_epyon: he said if you go by shipped they made billions

By counting the accounts people will make on those 29k consoles.

hehe...HAHAHAHA

Nice. Notice that he just won't comment on that?

@Zero_epyon: You actually quoted him lol. Billions and billions!

Right? I bought all the copiez!

@Zero_epyon: supposed to be quoted, not wired lol. Stupid swipe test

ha that's even funnier.

Technically not nothing, the PS4 did drop in price for the first time, and we saw how a price drop led the xbox to sale more during the holidays last year.

So at first PS4 was going to win, and now that they lost the gap isn't significant enough. Cows gonna cow I guess

@jet052006:

But Xbone has Halo and didn't do shit.

With the help of the Greatest Lineup in Xbox History, Xbox One will soon take over America! **** YEAH!

There you go :

Halo 3 month - 527.8K X360

Halo 4 month - 1260K X360

Halo 5 month - 305k XBO

I think Halo 5 is under 1 mil. retail. What a fucking decline. Titatnfall did better.

What's funny about the truth? Any large game release generates billions in sold-in sales to retailers, this even moreso with console hardware and supposedly controllers tied into it...

If Microsoft wanted to report sold-in figures for Halo 5 and its related hardware it would be in the billions, this is a fact.

Lol, nice statistics, thanks for showing that those figures all depend on Halo, and nothing else...

Halo 4 was released in November. That's when most consoles are sold... Last year Xbox One sold around 1.2mil consoles in November, without Halo. So your point doesn't mean a thing.

To add to this, Halo 3 sold during the franchise peak and was a successor to Halo 2 which had the best multiplayer package in the franchise not to mention it ended on a massive cliffhanger that Halo 3 was apparently going to finish. Halo 4 released in November on the 6th day of the month... That's all that needs to be said about that.

Halo 5? 27th day of the month in October on a platform people still question yet it and its related devices still managed to generate 400 million dollars, most people are going to wait for Black Friday and it's going to be an absolute slaughter.

LMFAO keep dreaming, forza destroyed GT and driveclub

@nyadc:

LOL! Halo 5 sales just stopped after COD : BO launch.

Battlefront will do the trick. Shame you don't track reports from Best Buy and Gamestop employees on GAF.

Simple, 343 killed the franchise.

So the difference was 29k even with Halo 5 release? Ouch?

@Zero_epyon: dude MS sold 2000 of the $500 Halo 5 Xbox Ones that a $Million. Everyone already knows they said Halo 5 combining everything.

It's not very far fetched to believe out of 300,000+ sales they sold 4,000 or more Halo 5 Xbox ones making their 2 million or more.

@tushar172787:

PCARS and Assetto Corsa destroyed both. LOL @ Forza sales.

"Best Buy and Gamestop employees"

Some of the most technological, entertainment and video game illiterate people I have ever encountered in my life who took a job to earn a living. You telling me this is like telling me I should listen to the 'experts' at Home Depot when looking for materials to rebuild my deck, idiots... Absolute idiots.

PS4 still destroyed the X1 worldwide, thats all that matters

You're talking to American's, nothing matters outside of America.