October 2015 NPD Official Thread || XB1 Won! Halo 5 #1!!

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#501  Edited By bigboss5ak
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Neogaf lmao that place is a joke, its a haven for cows. The uncharted collection bombed but no one there are talking about a decline in the uncharted series. Facts are you can't spin 400 million in profits Sony boys sorry. Its crazy how many people in this industry go to GAF to show their true colors didn't the digital foundry guy get found out for being a hardcore cow on gaf?? you can scratch digital foundry off the list as being impartial they are fanboys.

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#502 lglz1337
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@Antwan3K: dat 27k advantage hihihihu

ms closing the gab

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#503  Edited By Shewgenja
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@Antwan3K: Your biggest franchise gave you a ~30k bump. Frankly, people can talk all the shit they want about that. We've had far larger fluctuations month-on-month by far lesser profile franchise releases.

But hey, don't let me rain on your parade big guy.

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#504 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Antwan3K said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Antwan3K said:

So much cow salt, damage control, and butthurt..

Facts:

Xbox One won the month of October, after a PS4 price drop, due largely to the strength of Halo 5: Guardians..

Halo 5: Guardians was the highest selling game for the entire month of October and it was only on sale for 5 days..

Halo 5: Guardians generated a over $400,000,000 in revenue from software and hardware sales in one week..

these are the FACTS.. Halo 5: Guardians was a success.. Halo 5: Guardians was a success.. and one more time, all together now, Halo 5: Guardians was a success..

As hard as you try, no amount of cow spin can make this game a failure.. @Shewgenja and @NathanDrakeSwag are just continuing to embarrass themselves in this thread and it is hilarious.. Keep it up gentlemen, those goal posts aren't going to move themselves..

I came into this thread to see salty cows and boy was I not disappointed.. Great job Microsoft and kudos to 343i.. a well-deserved victory indeed..

Facts

It sold 935k last month including bundles which is a more than 66% decline from previous Halo's.

Now keep reposting that sold to retail and microtransaction revenue in bigger and bolder font. It only makes you look foolish and desperate.

And it pushed Xbox One console sales above PS4 sales for the first time all year, even after a PS4 price drop..

And it still was the highest selling game for the month even though it was only on sale for 5 days of said month..

And it still generated more revenue than any PS4 exclusive..

There isn't a realistic measure than paints Halo 5: Guardians as a failure.. Unless you're a blind fanboy, in which case: who cares what you think?

What major releases in October were supposed to sell PS4 hardware? In previous months there was Bloodborne, Batman, The Witcher 3, Taken King, Metal Gear. October was one of the softest months all year for software.

It had no competition. It beat out an NBA game that was in its 2nd month on the chart.

It should considering Sony has yet to release their biggest exclusives like Uncharted 4 or Gran Turismo.

The measuring stick is how well it sold compared to previous Halo's in which it didn't come close. Halo is not a needle mover anymore.

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#505 ironcreed
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It never matters unless PS4 wins the month. Have you not figured it out yet? The spin is real.

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#506 SecretPolice
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Just too salty, thread needs some SP pepper...

:P

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#507 imt558
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@bigboss5ak:

HD remaster of older games is not the same thing as a mainline entry in a franchise!

FAIL!

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#508 Antwan3K
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@imt558 said:

@Antwan3K:

LOL! You fell on MS's PR spin about Halo 5 sales. Well, well done!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTrF2dWWEAEpGVC.jpg

How this can be damage control if Halo 5 failed compared to previous Halos?

lol, talk about reaching.. that is the definition of "damage control" sir..

Basically, you can't bash Halo 5's current success so you have to resort to apples-to-oranges comparisons to older titles in the series?..

Halo 4 was launched at the end of the generation when the 360 had upwards of a 70+ million console install base.. Compare that to Halo 5 launching to the tune of around 15+ million consoles and tell me how that is a valid comparison?..

Halo 3 was literally released at the absolute height of the franchises' popularity.. It was released after the Xbox Live-defining Halo 2, was the end of a cliffhanger trilogy to Halo 2, and was released at the height of the Xbox 360's popularity (during a time in which the console was stomping a mudhole in the PS3 in terms of public reception which is the exact opposite of the Xbox One's current situation).. Not to mention the fact that we're discussing NPD here and digital sales have come a long way between the Halo 3 days and now.. Again, this is not an apples-to-apples comparison..

But at the end of the day, of course Halo 5 didn't outsell the absolutely most popular entry in the franchise.. DUH!!.. that still doesn't equate to "failure".. Did Halo 3: ODST outsell Halo 3?.. Did Halo: Reach outsell Halo 3?.. were those games "failures" or were they just simply top selling video games for their time?.. Halo 5: Guardians is a top selling video game sir.. You have to be pretty butthurt to reach all the way back to 2007 in order to pull some measure of damage control out of your cow assess..

I mean, lmao, the only way you cows can try to make Halo "fail" is by comparing it to another Halo!!.. Damage control at it's finest..

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#509 Shewgenja
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Hey, maybe Halo 6 can come out next October and close the 61k sales gap from September 2015. Lel!

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#510 NathanDrakeSwag
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Antwan comes through in the clutch to deliver the meltdown we all wanted to see.

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#511 bigboss5ak
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@imt558: So how do you explain the MCC stomping the shit out the uncharted collection??

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#512 Antwan3K
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@Shewgenja said:

@Antwan3K: Your biggest franchise gave you a ~30k bump. Frankly, people can talk all the shit they want about that. We've had far larger fluctuations month-on-month by far lesser profile franchise releases.

But hey, don't let me rain on your parade big guy.

raining?.. lol, you're making this minor victory lap oh sooooo sweeter with the training wheels you've attached to those goal posts..

keep pushing little fella.. keep pushing..

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@bigboss5ak said:

@imt558: So how do you explain the MCC stomping the shit out the uncharted collection??

That's probably the biggest reason Halo 5 fell flat on its face lmao.

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#514 Antwan3K
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Antwan3K said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Antwan3K said:

So much cow salt, damage control, and butthurt..

Facts:

Xbox One won the month of October, after a PS4 price drop, due largely to the strength of Halo 5: Guardians..

Halo 5: Guardians was the highest selling game for the entire month of October and it was only on sale for 5 days..

Halo 5: Guardians generated a over $400,000,000 in revenue from software and hardware sales in one week..

these are the FACTS.. Halo 5: Guardians was a success.. Halo 5: Guardians was a success.. and one more time, all together now, Halo 5: Guardians was a success..

As hard as you try, no amount of cow spin can make this game a failure.. @Shewgenja and @NathanDrakeSwag are just continuing to embarrass themselves in this thread and it is hilarious.. Keep it up gentlemen, those goal posts aren't going to move themselves..

I came into this thread to see salty cows and boy was I not disappointed.. Great job Microsoft and kudos to 343i.. a well-deserved victory indeed..

Facts

It sold 935k last month including bundles which is a more than 66% decline from previous Halo's.

Now keep reposting that sold to retail and microtransaction revenue in bigger and bolder font. It only makes you look foolish and desperate.

And it pushed Xbox One console sales above PS4 sales for the first time all year, even after a PS4 price drop..

And it still was the highest selling game for the month even though it was only on sale for 5 days of said month..

And it still generated more revenue than any PS4 exclusive..

There isn't a realistic measure than paints Halo 5: Guardians as a failure.. Unless you're a blind fanboy, in which case: who cares what you think?

What major releases in October were supposed to sell PS4 hardware? In previous months there was Bloodborne, Batman, The Witcher 3, Taken King, Metal Gear. October was one of the softest months all year for software.

It had no competition. It beat out an NBA game that was in its 2nd month on the chart.

It should considering Sony has yet to release their biggest exclusives like Uncharted 4 or Gran Turismo.

The measuring stick is how well it sold compared to previous Halo's in which it didn't come close. Halo is not a needle mover anymore.

It moved the needle to a Xbox One NPD victory (even after a PS4 price drop), a #1 software sales spot in a month it barely existed in, and moved $400,000,000 in revenue in a week.. That is the definition of success to every other rational human being.. If cows want to keep embarrassing themselves by reaching back to 2007 for damage control, by all means, please continue.. Back in the real world, Halo 5: Guardians is a top selling game and a system seller.. Fact..

Stay salty, my friend..

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#516  Edited By lglz1337
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@bigboss5ak: you are silly asf uncharted is a remaster of old games.

are ypu really comparing a reboot vs a new game and even a halo game ?

LOL

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#517  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@kwns said:

PS4 fanboys are only concerned if its xbox doesn't matter if Uncharted collection bombed. Polled less than Gears remaster and with a Higher install base explain that?

This is called the October NPD thread for a reason. PS4 fanboys only thing they can talk about is xbox because the PS4 only thing going for it over the xbox one is third party games run slightly better. They ignore everything else where it falls behind

From what I seen the uncharted collection is selling a lot better digitally. The physical numbers are poor for the uncharted collection and I expected that collection to sell a lot better than it did physically.

About halo 5 guardians I think it did fine.As long as 343i continues to prove to people that they know how to handle the halo franchise I think future halo games will sell very well.I think the worrying thing about this NDP is the AC franchise. I seriously don't know how Ubisoft will fix that franchise and make it sell better than it is selling now.

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@lglz1337 said:

@bigboss5ak: you are silly asf uncharted is a remaster of old games.

are ypu really comparing a reboot vs a new game and even a halo game ?

LOL

You compared MULTIPLE times Halo MCC to Killzone:SF... Pot, kettle, black...

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#520 NathanDrakeSwag
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@super600: Told you it was sub 1 mil bro.

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#521  Edited By lglz1337
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@kwns: whoooptiefuckongdoo LMAO

halo is no more that is what matters!

a 70% decline for this franchise LOL

everyone repeat after me halo is no more haha

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#522  Edited By lglz1337
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@FastRobby: scorewise silly

MCC is huge flop megaton

amd halo 5 is a huge saleflop megaton

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#523  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@lglz1337 said:

@kwns: whoooptiefuckongdoo LMAO

halo is no more that is what matters!

a 70% decline for this franchise LOL

everyone repeat after me halo is no more haha

Including digital it is nowhere near a 70% decline.

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#524  Edited By lglz1337
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no wonder there is no halo MS PR they cannot spin this one LOL

halo is no threat anymore!

october NPD result = in short even when ps4 loose, they win.

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#525 deactivated-60cd6c3d31f6d
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Damn, Halo 5 really failed hard critically and commercially.

I was not wrong in declaring this as the new Halo theme:

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Anyway congrats lemings on your win in october. 30k gap LOL. Now we wait for the PS4 to rip the xbone a new asshole in November.

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@super600 said:
@lglz1337 said:

@kwns: whoooptiefuckongdoo LMAO

halo is no more that is what matters!

a 70% decline for this franchise LOL

everyone repeat after me halo is no more haha

Including digital it is nowhere near a 70% decline.

Digital is 25% max and that's generous. That is a more than 60% decline and keep in mind the 935k includes all bundled sales too. It only has an 11% attach rate.

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#527 Chutebox
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@NathanDrakeSwag: Since when had npd included bundled games?

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#528  Edited By imt558
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@Antwan3K:

Halo 5 is a success! No shit!

LOL! What? I should compare Halo with....Assassons Creed? Of course you will compare Halo 5 with previous Halo.

Digital sales for bigger titles are around 20-25%. Nothing more. Look at the Witcher 3. Only 20% digital sales. Look at the BF Hardline. Only 15% digital.

At Halo 3 launch ( no digital sales, microtrasactions etc. ) X360 userbase was smaller compared to Xbone userbase today for Halo 5.

Some of you Halo fans are really hit hard today, aren't you?

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#529 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Chutebox said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: Since when had npd included bundled games?

The leaker combined the software sales with the Halo 5 bundle sales. They are both in the report but listed separately.

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#530 Nike_Air
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  • 303k - Xbone
  • 275k - PS4
  • 935k - Halo 5 including bundles

We all survived the Halo 5 hype train and the Microsoft PR spin.

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#532 bforrester420
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Chutebox said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: idk, not buying this until ms and Sony release pr. These numbers seem way low for both consoles

Which explains the lack of any PR. When a new numbered Halo game and a PS4 price drop fail to move systems neither company can be happy.

I'm sure a lot of people are waiting for Black Friday/Holiday deals

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@Nike_Air said:
  • 303k - Xbone
  • 275k - PS4
  • 935k - Halo 5 including bundles

We all survived the Halo 5 hype train and the Microsoft PR spin.

Are these numbers solid?

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#534 Shewgenja
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@Desmonic: if a certain user on The Neo Gaf is not banned in the next few days, then yeah.

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#535 imt558
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@super600:

Also Uncharted Collection is heavily bundled.

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@imt558 said:

@Antwan3K:

Halo 5 is a success! No shit!

LOL! What? I should compare Halo with....Assassons Creed? Of course you will compare Halo 5 with previous Halo.

Digital sales for bigger titles are around 20-25%. Nothing more. Look at the Witcher 3. Only 20% digital sales. Look at the BF Hardline. Only 15% digital.

At Halo 3 launch ( no digital sales, microtrasactions etc. ) X360 userbase was smaller compared to Xbone userbase today for Halo 5.

Some of you Halo fans are really hit hard today, aren't you?

I'm glad you agree Halo 5 is a success.. Now the healing can begin..

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#537  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@Desmonic said:

Oh, look at that. It would appear someone answered a post without being tagged.

Funny that.... :)

------------------

Slow sales for October as far as hardware goes. I think November will be massive this year.

There is still some speculation about the sales of Halo 5, but it did its part I think, software wise.

Do you expect anything less?

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#538  Edited By Zero_epyon
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People really expected Uncharted Collection to chart high? The game had almost no hype and it was missing multiplayer. I'm surprised it charted at all. Also, are we really going to try to go the digital sales route without having any numbers to go by? I can say Uncharted sold better digitally and they landed at #2, but I'd be wrong wouldn't I?

Assuming Halo sold 20% more digitat copies than physical, that would place it above the 1 million mark, but no where near the $400 Million that MS claimed. And that's a pretty bad start for a Halo game.

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#539  Edited By Antwan3K
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@kwns said:
@super600 said:
@kwns said:

PS4 fanboys are only concerned if its xbox doesn't matter if Uncharted collection bombed. Polled less than Gears remaster and with a Higher install base explain that?

This is called the October NPD thread for a reason. PS4 fanboys only thing they can talk about is xbox because the PS4 only thing going for it over the xbox one is third party games run slightly better. They ignore everything else where it falls behind

From what I seen the uncharted collection is selling a lot better digitally. The physical numbers are poor for the uncharted collection and I expected that collection to sell a lot better than it did physically.

About halo 5 guardians I think it did fine.As long as 343i continues to prove to people that they know how to handle the halo franchise I think future halo games will sell very well.I think the worrying thing about this NDP is the AC franchise. I seriously don't know how Ubisoft will fix that franchise and make it sell better than it is selling now.

I honestly don't know what the numbers are for uncharted digitally. xbox one remasters sell digitally also remember

Sony PS4 remaster of uncharted at retail still bombed at 9th place. My point is more directed at PS4 fanboys who keep claiming xbox first games are flops. Flopped compared to what? Does the PS4 software sales not matter?

Yea, it's hilarious..

Naughty Dog claimed that 80% of PS4 owners haven't played the previous Uncharted games, therefore releasing an Uncharted Collection was a justifiable decision..

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps4-news/4062.html

80% of PS4 owners haven't played the Uncharted games, yet the Uncharted Collection completely falls flat.. And *crickets* from cows..

I wonder what would happen if Uncharted 4 doesn't sell as much as Uncharted 3 or Uncharted 2.. According to cow logic, that would make Uncharted 4 an utter failure, correct?.. Well, considering Uncharted 4 will be launched after a year of no flagship exclusives like Bloodborne, I'd wager that starving PS4 players will eat it up.. But oh boy, the cow damage control and spin if Uncharted 4 doesn't beat Uncharted 3 or Uncharted 2 in sales would be absolutely epic.. Made that much sweeter by their damage control efforts from today..

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#541 -CC-
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Under a million LOL. When Devs see even the mighty halo cant do jack on the Xbone support for it will dry up soon. Man MS screwed up this gen so bad.

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#542 Shewgenja
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@kwns: you're comparing a three generation-long established franchise like Halo to Uncharted? Yeah, no kidding there's a double standard lol

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#544 Chutebox
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@bforrester420: Ps4 does have its two huge bundles in November

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#545  Edited By lglz1337
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for comparison fallout shipped 12m WW

LOL halo 5

bb bb bbbut 5 days

best outcome of this gen

halo is ded and fallout is alive

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#546 MonsieurX
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@lglz1337 said:

for comparison fallout shipped 12m WW

LOL halo 5

bb bb bbbut 5 days

Enjoy your time in there

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#547  Edited By xxyetixx
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@Shewgenja: come on man why you even trying to play the sales game in October. As far as I see it Sony and MS had over 500,000 suckers in the U.S. that could of got a system cheaper in a month, consumers are idiots man.

It's all about that November, then we can see how the sales of the big Multiplats are going, how well systems are moving, and what kind of legs Halo has.

Why y'all were working yourselves up to claim victory or own age over October is just insane fanboyism.

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@MonsieurX: hey you're back you can go now, back into your hole lol

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#549 Antwan3K
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@kwns said:
@Antwan3K said:
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@super600 said:
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PS4 fanboys are only concerned if its xbox doesn't matter if Uncharted collection bombed. Polled less than Gears remaster and with a Higher install base explain that?

This is called the October NPD thread for a reason. PS4 fanboys only thing they can talk about is xbox because the PS4 only thing going for it over the xbox one is third party games run slightly better. They ignore everything else where it falls behind

From what I seen the uncharted collection is selling a lot better digitally. The physical numbers are poor for the uncharted collection and I expected that collection to sell a lot better than it did physically.

About halo 5 guardians I think it did fine.As long as 343i continues to prove to people that they know how to handle the halo franchise I think future halo games will sell very well.I think the worrying thing about this NDP is the AC franchise. I seriously don't know how Ubisoft will fix that franchise and make it sell better than it is selling now.

I honestly don't know what the numbers are for uncharted digitally. xbox one remasters sell digitally also remember

Sony PS4 remaster of uncharted at retail still bombed at 9th place. My point is more directed at PS4 fanboys who keep claiming xbox first games are flops. Flopped compared to what? Does the PS4 software sales not matter?

Yea, it's hilarious..

Naughty Dog claimed that 80% of PS4 owners haven't played the previous Uncharted games, therefore releasing an Uncharted Collection was a justifiable decision..

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps4-news/4062.html

80% of PS4 owners haven't played the Uncharted games, yet the Uncharted Collection completely falls flat.. And *crickets* from cows..

I wonder what would happen if Uncharted 4 doesn't sell as much as Uncharted 3 or Uncharted 2.. According to cow logic, that would make Uncharted 4 an utter failure, correct?.. Well, considering Uncharted 4 will be launched after a year of no flagship exclusives like Bloodborne, I'd wager that that starving PS4 players will eat it up.. But oh boy, the cow damage control and spin if Uncharted 4 doesn't beat Uncharted 3 or Uncharted 2 in sales would be absolutely epic.. Made that much sweeter by their damage control efforts from today..

Polar opposites exist.

We xbox fans are the democratic party sane rational people

ps4 fans are the republican party well you know!

well, I would definitely agree that polar opposites exist between "fans" and "fanboys".. no matter the platform..