October 2015 NPD Official Thread || XB1 Won! Halo 5 #1!!

Halo couldn't even break a million???? HAHAHAHA! I can guarantee that dud had a 200-500 million dollar marketing budget as well.

Game. Over. Might as well pack away your Xbone along with your Dreamcast and Virtual Boy because that system is dead, and the rotting corpse is starting to stink.

Congrats to Xbox team, Halo is a good game. And it momentum will carry into November and December. But after that just watch PS4 sprint the rest of the generation as the leading console.

Wow was not expecting this. Xbox One winning same month as PS4 price drop, I thought for sure PS4 had October in the bag. Every time I would glance at the Amazon chart, I would see multiple PS4 bundles in the top 10.

There is the Halo effect of course, but some people may have been hesitant on day 1 considering the MCC launch issues. Glad the launch went well this time. I think this is a significant victory for MS, more so than previous months because if they cannot win during a Halo month that would have made nasty headlines....I'm wondering if the PS4 price drop had any effect at all, maybe they should not have done it, I don't know. Interesting times and having such a blast now with all the games, whatever your console of choice this is a great time to be a console gamer.

What impresses me is that I'm only on page 7 so far and there's already been several major lem meltdowns in here. Didn't Xbone win NPD?

@ironcreed said:

It never matters unless PS4 wins the month. Have you not figured it out yet? The spin is real.

When does you ban on gaf end? ;)

I was honestly surprised about the consoles, but I knew Halo 5 would sell most.

@speak_low: Lol "the spinny one"?

All I'm saying is that Halo 5: Guardians had a successful launch, helped the Xbox One get a much needed NPD victory, and is obviously a huge financial asset to the Xbox division judging from those revenue numbers..

Nothing more, nothing less..

Anyone trying to turn this into a debate about the decline of the Halo franchise since the Halo 3 days way back in 2007 when the Xbox 360 and the Halo franchise in general were in their absolute prime or comparing these sales numbers to Halo 4's when it had a pool of 70+ million consoles to sell to is "the spinny one".. And so far, it looks like you fall into that category..

@AzatiS so you still going to message me after NPD? Curious cause you were so adamant that you would.

H5 system seller? Yes, yes it's a system seller. Can cows continue to spin that $400 million? Nope or at least they shouldn't. They'd only look even more foolish.

What you saw was multiple PS4 bundle preorders that wont be accounted for November. (BF, BO). The pricedrop didnt have a great effect it seems. There is a YoY decline that I didnt expect to see tbqh.

But we need to see how November goes, when the bundles will be out in full force.

@kingtito: I hope you didn't have a big lunch.. You're gonna end up puking from all this spin..

Great for the Xbone.

I'm amazed Yoshi made it to the top 10.

Oh yeah I'm expecting El Tormented to come in with his usual garbage.

MS releases shipped revenue, adds hardware and microstransaction revenue to it, then calls it biggest launch ever. But that's not spin. Of course it will be the biggest if you're counting things you never counted before. Halo 3 on its own, sold to customers, sold 3.3 million in 12 days. Back when publishers liked sales numbers.

Like I've said for over a decade , the only reason Xbox is around is because of Halo. Without that game selling consoles, Xbox is as good as dead.

TLHBO

sw is like a different world everyone outside SW already accepted the halo 5 megafail.

outside sw they also talk about halo fans are the most protective people on earth... well here we are..

they must mean those people here.

LOL

halo 5 is no more! heal your wounds

Bigger surprise with Halo is that even if it's less than 4 days, under a million in retail is a little troubling, admittedly I bought it digitally which I assume would easily put it over a million, then again it also outsold Ass Creed this month, and AssCreed isn't exactly a franchise that draws low numbers (usually).

Also given that number 4 on that list, counting multiple machines is at 300k, these machines/market kind of suck at moving software.

what about comparing it to halo 3? when the base was just small if not smaller?

Bethesda releases record breaking shipped revenue for Fallout 4 and it is universally seen as a success.. Microsoft releases record breaking shipped revenue for Halo 5 and somehow Halo 5 is a massive failure? I also see that you're still adding in that 0.125% from microtransactions huh.. I guess your damage control doesn't quite have the zing without it.. I also see you're mentioning the addition of hardware with their figures without also admitting that Halo 5 must be a system seller if Halo 5 branded console sales made such an impact on those revenue numbers.. and ah, we can't have a good spin without bring up Halo 3..

check, check, and check.. Well done, sir..

When they use Halo to make Halo look bad, that's when you know they're really reaching, because all it does is reaffirms how much of a juggernaut the Halo franchise still is. "GreatmessAwaits" could only do you good for so long, Sony and Playstation needs a Halo, it needs a Mario when it comes to months like these. Sony feared Halo that's why they were forced to do a price drop all of a sudden but that price drop still didn't help them one bit. I just cringe every time someone uses Halo against Halo lol.

@kingtito:

Cows spin that 400$ mil. revenue? WTF MS did with that PR? LOL.

Nothing odd that Xboners SUCKED that MS's spin

Because Bethesda

1) indicated it was shipped in their press release, instead of not specifying

2) does not sell hardware, so it was all software sales

And not once did I call Halo's launch a failure, as even a million sales in a week or less is amazing for any game.

I was one of the first to congratulate MS here, there's no need for me to damage control. I still like Halo lol.

@Antwan3K:

Yes multiplatform game with just 1.5 mil. on PC. Imagine PS4 and Xbone sales. Hahahaha!

Probably Fallout 4 sales on Xbone doubled Halo 5 sales.

What a fail for Halo 5.

They gave the total revenue for H5. What cows did was spin every possible way to discredit possibly having good software sales. Seeing as how H5 was #1 in software sales for the entire month and that only counts 4 days worth, I'd say it sold very well. Seems the console sold as well also making H5 a system seller as well. Either way, cows will spin this into a negative.

Oh you mean when Halo was still a relatively new franchise, was coming off the Xbox Live-defining multiplayer of Halo 2, the Xbox 360 was the darling of the gaming community, digital sales were a non-factor, and it launched in a pre-Call of Duty dominated market?

Now contrast that to the fact that this is the seventh major release of Halo, people were potentially and understandably burned by the Halo: MCC launch issues, the Xbox One has been a disaster in terms of public relations, digital sales (which aren't tracked on NPD) are at an all-time high, and Call of Duty typically rules the market this time of year when it comes to first-person shooters..

Take a look at that and tell me you can definitively draw an apples-to-apples comparison of X numbers vs Y numbers.. you cant. Halo 3 launched in a completely different environment than Halo 5 yet Halo 5 still shows that the Halo franchise continues to be a complete success in terms of moving software and moving hardware..

Let's talk about spin for a moment. How is it that for the past two years, in literally every thread that XBone sales have been made a subject, we hear:

"The XBox One is selling better than the XBox 360 did."

"The XBox One is selling just fine. Just not as fast as the PS4. Cows are in denial of the XBox One doing as well as the 360."

But now that Halo 5 of all games has launched, the tune has changed dramatically. It's not doing anywhere near the realm of Halo 3 and the only number we have from Microsoft in regards to their God Franchise is an obfuscated mess about revenue? Frankly, when is the actual last time MS even claimed the Bone is keeps bg up with the 360? Riddle me this.

I'm also wondering why @nyadc is so silent about Xbox not taking over the world right now.

What PS4 1st party exclusive do you think outperformed Halo 5 in terms of sales?

@Antwan3K: Titanfall did better on the Bone than Halo 5.

Infamous:SS pushed more PS4s than Titanfall pushed Bones.

How's that for context?

@misterpmedia said:

@ironcreed said:

It never matters unless PS4 wins the month. Have you not figured it out yet? The spin is real.

When does you ban on gaf end? ;)

Later today, actually. Why so curious, lol?

Bloodborne would be the closest at 1 Million+ within 10 days. Didn't outperform it but it came close, which means that the 5th major installment of MS flagship exclusive barely outpaced a new IP.

8-lo: Revenue Evolved

If true, that's great for Titanfall.. great new IP and I look forward to the sequel.. And yep, the PS4 consistently outsells the Xbox One, especially back then when the PS4 had a $100 price advantage..

Still doesn't change the fact that Halo 5 is #1 on October NPD with having only 5 days on store shelves, gave the Xbox One an NPD victory, and generated record breaking revenue for the franchise.. Not too bad for a "failure"..

Are your arms tired from all this goal post moving yet?

he's been the best part of this entire topic so far. My favourite specific part being calling any other source of information, but himself, 'untrustworthy' lol He is like Emperor Irony and it never gets old. Also his lolsworthy try hard damage control mathing to cover up the drastic and obvious decline in his favourite franchise.

Bloodborne is a Sony first-party exclusive now?..

@Antwan3K: *points to second post on this thread*

I said if it was close, then people would need to sit the **** down. I am moving from precisely nothing. My flag is planted right where it stands. No edits. No craw-fishing.

And I congratulate you on such a weaksause way to cover your ass.. Nevermind trying to truly man up, placing your flag in the ground, and stating concretely that "Halo is dead. There is no way Halo 5 allows the Xbox One to beat the PS4 in the same month as a PS4 price drop when that dead ass game releases with only 5 days to work". Nope, you took the spineless way out just in case Halo 5 did exactly what you hoped it wouldn't.. Top NPD in software and push the Xbox One to the top in hardware while barely even qualifying as an October release since it launched with only 5 days left in the month..

So yea, I concede that maybe youre not moving the goal post. You just attached a set a wheels to it and placed in on a hill..

@Antwan3K: ~30k-lo: Please Be Excited

I mean, you're going to talk to me about wheels on a hill when you are calling THE October release a "barely October release"?

This is here we are at? I mean, for realsies?

can lems not realize for once that halo is NOT what it was before ?

halo = FLOP

no 400m microtransactions revenue can save it now

Ohhh,Moogenja keeps getting smacked.

@Shewgenja: Well sir, i'd imagine launching on October 9th would do quite a bit more for ensuring a top spot on the NPD for that month and pushing console sales for that month than launching on October 27th, wouldn't you agree?.. The fact that Halo 5 launched so late yet still had that level of impact is impressive to say the least..

Ah forgot out that. I guess we'll see in March next year.

True, lems cant catch a break this gen it seems.

Deep troubles ahead.

@Antwan3K: No. I don't agree. Check the shelf date on the Halo 5 bundle and get back to me.

300k a system seller.? The PS4 sold 550k on destiny on september 2014 and wasn't even exclusive.

The spin has already being deliver joining hardware + software it a total fail,much like joining 360 and XBO shipments to hide low numbers,much like it was last gen when sony joined PS3 and PS2 as well.

On topic. Nice victory in deed.

took those wheels off and decided to push that goal manually now huh..

the official launch date for Halo 5: Guardians is October 27, 2015.. since when do any other factors need to be considered?..

Riddle me that.

Holy shit Halo flopped. I remember back in the day when a Halo release wont just edge the xbox over playstation for the month, but actually blow it out of the water.

Times have changed it seems.

correct i remember those days 2 it was a event, this however is atrocious

@Antwan3K: Checkmate. You've got nothing, and Halo is a franchise with dwindling loyalty.

For the record, the Halo 5 Bone was on shelves a week before the game came out. If people wanted a cheaper option for the hardware, there was no short supply of that either. My tongues a chisel and this conversations sculpted.

80% of software sales happen at launch and halo 5 pre-order bundle started 2 months before launch, stop your DC!

halo 5 is a sale joke in comparison, and a joke of a system seller!