@Shewgenja: come on man why you even trying to play the sales game in October. As far as I see it Sony and MS had over 500,000 suckers in the U.S. that could of got a system cheaper in a month, consumers are idiots man.
It's all about that November, then we can see how the sales of the big Multiplats are going, how well systems are moving, and what kind of legs Halo has.
Why y'all were working yourselves up to claim victory or own age over October is just insane fanboyism.
Hardware sales are actually on par with every October since 2006. The worrying sign for m$ has to be Halo's software sales. Even existing xbone owners are not buying it.
@xxyetixx: I'm not a PlayStation fan so much as I am an XBox hater. I can't vouch for what the cows here do. What I can say, though, is that the rumors of an imminent takeover have been greatly exaggerated.
Past that, idgaf. This "victory" is terribad. Especially coming from people who screamed til they were purple in the face earlier this year that Bloodborne was a niche game that proved to completely obliterate Halos ability to move consoles.
@imt558: So how do you explain the MCC stomping the shit out the uncharted collection??
how? Halo MCC charted #10 the month it released
He's right the actual sales were higher despite it charting lower. But that broken pile of shit is likely the biggest reason Halo 5 just bombed. Most people finally had enough of 343 after 2 duds in a row and removing features like split screen.
@kwns: There's just one small problem with comparing remaster collections on these respective systems.. The PS4 has been a matter of great magnitude more consistent with releasing games to choose from.
The Bone literally had all of no first-party titles all throughout 2015 until the Rare collection. These are two systems on very different ecosystems. You guys are buying what you can. PS4 owners are buying what they want.
"Bu...bu....but teh $400 million dollarz in revenuez!!!"
You chumps fell hard for the M$ PR spin.
What a massive decline for Floplo. A Halo month and Xbone only gets a 27k bump? PS4 had nothing going on in October, Uncharted collection was the only thing it had ( a remake that even I didn't get lol). Bloodborne and Infamous gave PS4 bigger bumps much less than the bump PS4 got for multiplats like Destiny and MGSV. Halo is done as a system seller, 343 finally killed the franchise. November is going to be a complete bloodbath, COD and SWBF PS4 bundles are going to tear Xbone a new hole.
Including digital it is nowhere near a 70% decline.
Digital is 25% max and that's generous. That is a more than 60% decline and keep in mind the 935k includes all bundled sales too. It only has an 11% attach rate.
Yep. It's more likely in the 60%-65% range. I still think the recent AC decline was a lot worse because it was year over year.
Quote :"I'm glad you agree Halo 5 is a success.. Now the healing can begin.."
LOL! Where i said that i agree Halo 5 is a success? You spinning my words like MS PR. What else to expect from Xboner. I mentioned "no shit" in other context. Better luck with Halo 6.
Did you saw how Fallout 4 performed in 5 days? Halo 5 is shit compared to that.
Including digital it is nowhere near a 70% decline.
Digital is 25% max and that's generous. That is a more than 60% decline and keep in mind the 935k includes all bundled sales too. It only has an 11% attach rate.
Yep. It's more likely in the 60%-65% range. I still think the recent AC decline was a lot worse because it was year over year.
AC has the franchise fatigue excuse because its annual and its a third party game. Ubisoft can easily plug Watch Dogs or Far Cry into its place. Halo is a first party game and by far the biggest exclusive m$ has. They desperately needed it to sell systems because what else can for them? They don't have superior multiplats or lightning in a bottle kinect success to fall back on anymore. The xbone needs exclusives to sell systems and its biggest one just tanked.
They spun morons like you who can't read between the lines that the revenue included everything Halo 5 branded from controllers to consoles to collector editions to requisition packs. Cosmic on Neogaf just confirmed it sold less than 1 million copies in the US in October. That's less than a third what Halo 3 sold in its opening since you seem to enjoy math so much.
You spend more time making excuses for why it flopped than actually playing it. Maybe its not very good and you regret all that money you wasted buying it 3 times? The rabid fanboys like you is where the revenue added up at. Halo fanboys are a weird little cult now.
Hey boy genius, read my previous posts.
There is LITERALLY no possible way the game sold that low, it's an impossibility, take heed of that word, IMPOSSIBILITY. The console didn't move insane numbers as confirmed by NPD, they sure as shit didn't sell millions of those controllers, the Limited Collector's Edition sold likely less than 10,000 units, Dota 2 only generates about $80,000,000 IN AN ENTIRE YEAR from its micro-tranactions and that game has a daily player count in excess of 700,000 so your REQ pack theory goes out the fucking window, and you want us to believe that the game sold less than a million copies?
Get real..
that doesn't seem right...
In 2013 yes, they made 80 Million, but league of legends made more than 600 Million.
So $400,000,000 - $500,000 = $399,500,000 of revenue in one week.. Now that microtransactions can finally be taken off the table are we to believe that the a major portion of that $399,500,000 came from sales of controllers?.. Really?
Obviously Halo 5 moved a lot of software and a lot of consoles.. did it move enough software for Microsoft to say that it beat out Halo 3 sales or Halo 4 sales?.. No, of course not or they would have said so flat out and those are apples-to-oranges comparisons anyway.... But it did sell extremely well.. And apparently, in terms of overall first week revenue, it has set a new record..
Again the real question is, now that microtransactions are off the table, only accounting for $500,000, are cows going to still say that in one week people ran out and bought $399,500,000 worth Halo 5 special edition controllers?.. Or can they just admit that Halo 5 was a top selling game in terms of software and also a system selling game in terms of hardware?.. the choice is between blind fanboyism and plain logic but I have a feeling which way cows are going to lean..
PS- I'm not referring to you as a cow, I'm just speaking in general..
Pardon me, been busy and I fell asleep last night. Creamsugar didn't even turn up in the gaf thread last night either but some other guy did. So glad I got some kip.
Quote :"I'm glad you agree Halo 5 is a success.. Now the healing can begin.."
LOL! Where i said that i agree Halo 5 is a success? You spinning my words like MS PR. What else to expect from Xboner. I mentioned "no shit" in other context. Better luck with Halo 6.
Did you saw how Fallout 4 performed in 5 days? Halo 5 is shit compared to that.
A multiplatform game outselling a single platform game is some form of ownage?
Edit: also how do you define success?.. because Halo 5 just tap danced all over every PS4 1st party exclusive released thus far in terms of revenue.. If "Halo" is dead, what does that make Killzone, Knack, infamous, DriveClub, and LittleBigPlanet?
There is LITERALLY no possible way the game sold that low, it's an impossibility, take heed of that word, IMPOSSIBILITY. The console didn't move insane numbers as confirmed by NPD, they sure as shit didn't sell millions of those controllers, the Limited Collector's Edition sold likely less than 10,000 units, Dota 2 only generates about $80,000,000 IN AN ENTIRE YEAR from its micro-tranactions and that game has a daily player count in excess of 700,000 so your REQ pack theory goes out the fucking window, and you want us to believe that the game sold less than a million copies?
Get real..
that doesn't seem right...
In 2013 yes, they made 80 Million, but league of legends made more than 600 Million.
So $400,000,000 - $500,000 = $399,500,000 of revenue in one week.. Now that microtransactions can finally be taken off the table are we to believe that the a major portion of that $399,500,000 came from sales of controllers?.. Really?
Obviously Halo 5 moved a lot of software and a lot of consoles.. did it move enough software for Microsoft to say that it beat out Halo 3 sales or Halo 4 sales?.. No, of course not or they would have said so flat out and those are apples-to-oranges comparisons anyway.... But it did sell extremely well.. And apparently, in terms of overall first week revenue, it has set a new record..
Again the real question is, now that microtransactions are off the table, only accounting for $500,000, are cows going to still say that in one week people ran out and bought $399,500,000 worth Halo 5 special edition controllers?.. Or can they just admit that Halo 5 was a top selling game in terms of software and also a system selling game in terms of hardware?.. the choice is between blind fanboyism and plain logic but I have a feeling which way cows are going to lean..
PS- I'm not referring to you as a cow, I'm just speaking in general..
No even the 500K is vague. They said they contributed 500K to the pot, but that dosn't mean that 500K is all they made. They don't put 100% of the req earnings into the pot, so it is only logical that they made more than 500K.
Even if it was for the week and not for the day. The numbers are obviously taking shipments into account. They could also be counting shipped consoles and controllers. And that's world wide. You can't honestly tell me Halo sold so much and MS chose to not give away the exact numbers.
"Bu...bu....but teh $400 million dollarz in revenuez!!!"
You chumps fell hard for the M$ PR spin.
What a massive decline for Floplo. A Halo month and Xbone only gets a 27k bump? PS4 had nothing going on in October, Uncharted collection was the only thing it had ( a remake that even I didn't get lol). Bloodborne and Infamous gave PS4 bigger bumps much less than the bump PS4 got for multiplats like Destiny and MGSV. Halo is done as a system seller, 343 finally killed the franchise. November is going to be a complete bloodbath, COD and SWBF PS4 bundles are going to tear Xbone a new hole.
Wow @ the sales decline.
Found someone who can't read in french,but for you:
@Chutebox: No its comparing launch openings in the US. The decline is just that significant.
You sure about that?
100% sure. Look at the numbers on the left. Those were the NPD openings for those games. Here's Halo 3 at 3.3 million for example http://www.1up.com/news/september-npd-halo-3-sells
There is LITERALLY no possible way the game sold that low, it's an impossibility, take heed of that word, IMPOSSIBILITY. The console didn't move insane numbers as confirmed by NPD, they sure as shit didn't sell millions of those controllers, the Limited Collector's Edition sold likely less than 10,000 units, Dota 2 only generates about $80,000,000 IN AN ENTIRE YEAR from its micro-tranactions and that game has a daily player count in excess of 700,000 so your REQ pack theory goes out the fucking window, and you want us to believe that the game sold less than a million copies?
Get real..
that doesn't seem right...
In 2013 yes, they made 80 Million, but league of legends made more than 600 Million.
So $400,000,000 - $500,000 = $399,500,000 of revenue in one week.. Now that microtransactions can finally be taken off the table are we to believe that the a major portion of that $399,500,000 came from sales of controllers?.. Really?
Obviously Halo 5 moved a lot of software and a lot of consoles.. did it move enough software for Microsoft to say that it beat out Halo 3 sales or Halo 4 sales?.. No, of course not or they would have said so flat out and those are apples-to-oranges comparisons anyway.... But it did sell extremely well.. And apparently, in terms of overall first week revenue, it has set a new record..
Again the real question is, now that microtransactions are off the table, only accounting for $500,000, are cows going to still say that in one week people ran out and bought $399,500,000 worth Halo 5 special edition controllers?.. Or can they just admit that Halo 5 was a top selling game in terms of software and also a system selling game in terms of hardware?.. the choice is between blind fanboyism and plain logic but I have a feeling which way cows are going to lean..
PS- I'm not referring to you as a cow, I'm just speaking in general..
No even the 500K is vague. They said they contributed 500K to the pot, but that dosn't mean that 500K is all they made. They don't put 100% of the req earnings into the pot, so it is only logical that they made more than 500K.
Even if it was for the week and not for the day. The numbers are obviously taking shipments into account. They could also be counting shipped consoles and controllers. And that's world wide. You can't honestly tell me Halo sold so much and MS chose to not give away the exact numbers.
and you cant tell me that you don't realize that those microtransactions accounted for 0.125% of that $400,000,000.. even if it was the full pot of $1.5 million, it would still only account for 0.375%. That's absolutely nothing, so why even mention it?.. is it because it sounds better to say "b bu but it was teh microstransactions!!1!" when trying to explain away Halo 5's success?.. How many controller sales do you think added to the pot?..
At the end of the day, Halo 5 is the top selling game in October with only 5 days on the clock, helped the Xbox One get it's first NPD victory all year, and generated a record breaking $400,000,000 in revenue.. Period.. these are the facts, gentlemen.. Halo 5 sold a lot of software, Halo 5 moved extra hardware, and Halo 5 made Microsoft a ton of money..
At the end of the day, Halo 5 is the top selling game in October with only 5 days on the clock, helped the Xbox One get it's first NPD victory all year, and generated a record breaking $400,000,000 in revenue.. Period.. these are the facts, gentlemen.. Halo 5 sold a lot of software, Halo 5 moved extra hardware, and Halo 5 made Microsoft a ton of money..
Halo 5 is a success by any logical metric..
Damnnnn
Cows are getting reckt in here.
Instead of keeping the thread active they should want it dead and buried
Look i only own a PS4 (so far..excluding my PC) and this is GREAT NEWS! The only way Sony is going to get off their entitled asses and give us content is when they start losing a few battles.
@NathanDrakeSwag: I am well aware that not everyone is like me, but I waited on my purchase of Halo 5. For 1 Halo MCC's online was broken and unplayable at launch why be stuck with more of that. 2nd Targets buy 2 get 1 free sale was happening and there were 3 games I knew I wanted so even if number one wasn't the case I would of waited to save some money.
Halo 5 is pretty good, word of mouth and reviews may be able to lure some people back, or maybe people waited for deals and sales. November will tell us more we can see if it utterly fails in sales or has legs and sells well throughout the holidays or into next year.
Look i only own a PS4 (so far..excluding my PC) and this is GREAT NEWS! The only way Sony is going to get off their entitled asses and give us content is when they start losing a few battles.
Losing 1 month in 1 country by 28k when they were up against the biggest exclusive m$ can possibly release is probably viewed as a win by Sony. They are positioning themselves for the holidays with Star Wars and CoD bundles/marketing and early next year with Uncharted 4 and Street Fighter V launching.
At the end of the day, Halo 5 is the top selling game in October with only 5 days on the clock, helped the Xbox One get it's first NPD victory all year, and generated a record breaking $400,000,000 in revenue.. Period.. these are the facts, gentlemen.. Halo 5 sold a lot of software, Halo 5 moved extra hardware, and Halo 5 made Microsoft a ton of money..
Halo 5 is a success by any logical metric..
Damnnnn
Cows are getting reckt in here.
Instead of keeping the thread active they should want it dead and buried
LOL
yea the spin is real in here..
Deep down, cows thought the PS4 was going to win this month since Halo 5 only had 5 days to work with.. But once the truth dropped, the damage control kicked into high gear.. It's been pretty entertaining to watch the length some people will go to try and spin an obviously successful game into some sort of "failure"..
@NathanDrakeSwag: I am well aware that not everyone is like me, but I waited on my purchase of Halo 5. For 1 Halo MCC's online was broken and unplayable at launch why be stuck with more of that. 2nd Targets buy 2 get 1 free sale was happening and there were 3 games I knew I wanted so even if number one wasn't the case I would of waited to save some money.
Halo 5 is pretty good, word of mouth and reviews may be able to lure some people back, or maybe people waited for deals and sales. November will tell us more we can see if it utterly fails in sales or has legs and sells well throughout the holidays or into next year.
I don't expect the game to drop off a cliff but it is headed for 4-5 million lifetime sales instead of the 10+ million seller it used to be. That puts it more in line with games like God of War that lems like to call niche.
At the end of the day, Halo 5 is the top selling game in October with only 5 days on the clock, helped the Xbox One get it's first NPD victory all year, and generated a record breaking $400,000,000 in revenue.. Period.. these are the facts, gentlemen.. Halo 5 sold a lot of software, Halo 5 moved extra hardware, and Halo 5 made Microsoft a ton of money..
Halo 5 is a success by any logical metric..
Damnnnn
Cows are getting reckt in here.
Instead of keeping the thread active they should want it dead and buried
LOL
yea the spin is real in here..
Deep down, cows thought the PS4 was going to win this month since Halo 5 only had 5 days to work with.. But once the truth dropped, the damage control kicked into high gear.. It's been pretty entertaining to watch the length some people will go to try and spin an obviously successful game into some sort of "failure"..
I still remember moogenja and others using all the amazon bestseller lists throughout October as some indication the PS4 would win
Fallout 4 numbers are going to be Bethesda's highest ever, dwarfing the approx. 7 million Skyrim copies sold around the same time - and that was Bethesda's biggest success already.
Fallout 3 --> Fallout 4, massive increase. Able to detect ravenous hunger among fans.
Halo 3 --> Halo 4 --> Halo 5, plummeting 343 meters per sec.
Uncharted Collection didn't do well (but it's #1 on PSN's top sellers for Europe.....so not sure how much that means, or maybe it means nothing), but the one I'm interested in is U4. If Uncharted 4 sees a dramatic drop in sales compared to the other previous games (although, to be fair, the install bases are different), then Lems can go ahead and laugh.
But even if that happens, that doesn't really prove that PS4 itself is in trouble when it comes to worldwide sales or the upcoming 3-4 years. Whereas with this Halo 5 launch, it's good mixed with some nasty facts, which equals the results we're seeing. Xbox One needed/needs the biggest jump start it's ever going to need, and I don't see it in the numbers or the buzzing talk among the gaming community. More laggard than leading, I'm afraid.
Put whatever spin cycle setting you want on this but when a franchise tops the software charts for the entire month after only being released for 5 days, boosts console sales to gain the first Xbox One NPD victory all year, and generates a record breaking $400,000,000 in revenue for the franchise, that title is neither dead nor dying..
Especially when compared to other 1st party exclusive franchises of today..
Damn, cow melt down is for real. Anyway, I know I'm not the only one that buys games digitally now so I look at these monthly things differently as well. I wish there is a way to calculate and count digital game sales. Is there one? No wonder why PC and their fans are always left out. That's not a bad nor a good thing though. But I can almost guarantee if they also count digital game sales, it will always likely favor the Xbox One. But hot damn, Halo continues to hurt the butts of millions of the cow herd since 2001. I just can't imagine what they go through knowing it can't be stopped no matter how hard they try to stop it or discredit the franchise. It was only out for only a few days too so GS choosing it as game of the month and becoming the number 1 selling game of October on top of that the Xbox One being number 1, made it a great month of MS. MS and Xbox seem to make it count when it matters the most.
At the end of the day, Halo 5 is the top selling game in October with only 5 days on the clock, helped the Xbox One get it's first NPD victory all year, and generated a record breaking $400,000,000 in revenue.. Period.. these are the facts, gentlemen.. Halo 5 sold a lot of software, Halo 5 moved extra hardware, and Halo 5 made Microsoft a ton of money..
Halo 5 is a success by any logical metric..
Damnnnn
Cows are getting reckt in here.
Instead of keeping the thread active they should want it dead and buried
LOL
yea the spin is real in here..
Deep down, cows thought the PS4 was going to win this month since Halo 5 only had 5 days to work with.. But once the truth dropped, the damage control kicked into high gear.. It's been pretty entertaining to watch the length some people will go to try and spin an obviously successful game into some sort of "failure"..
I still remember moogenja and others using all the amazon bestseller lists throughout October as some indication the PS4 would win
They are hurting realllll bad in here
yea, definitely the funniest material is located within the first half of this thread.. @Shewgenja couldn't contain his obvious beliefs that the PS4 was going to win this month.. He was sooooo ready to run that victory lap and then face planted over his own shoe laces..
So $400,000,000 - $500,000 = $399,500,000 of revenue in one week.. Now that microtransactions can finally be taken off the table are we to believe that the a major portion of that $399,500,000 came from sales of controllers?.. Really?
Obviously Halo 5 moved a lot of software and a lot of consoles.. did it move enough software for Microsoft to say that it beat out Halo 3 sales or Halo 4 sales?.. No, of course not or they would have said so flat out and those are apples-to-oranges comparisons anyway.... But it did sell extremely well.. And apparently, in terms of overall first week revenue, it has set a new record..
Again the real question is, now that microtransactions are off the table, only accounting for $500,000, are cows going to still say that in one week people ran out and bought $399,500,000 worth Halo 5 special edition controllers?.. Or can they just admit that Halo 5 was a top selling game in terms of software and also a system selling game in terms of hardware?.. the choice is between blind fanboyism and plain logic but I have a feeling which way cows are going to lean..
PS- I'm not referring to you as a cow, I'm just speaking in general..
No even the 500K is vague. They said they contributed 500K to the pot, but that dosn't mean that 500K is all they made. They don't put 100% of the req earnings into the pot, so it is only logical that they made more than 500K.
Even if it was for the week and not for the day. The numbers are obviously taking shipments into account. They could also be counting shipped consoles and controllers. And that's world wide. You can't honestly tell me Halo sold so much and MS chose to not give away the exact numbers.
and you cant tell me that you don't realize that those microtransactions accounted for 0.125% of that $400,000,000.. even if it was the full pot of $1.5 million, it would still only account for 0.375%. That's absolutely nothing, so why even mention it?.. is it because it sounds better to say "b bu but it was teh microstransactions!!1!" when trying to explain away Halo 5's success?.. How many controller sales do you think added to the pot?..
At the end of the day, Halo 5 is the top selling game in October with only 5 days on the clock, helped the Xbox One get it's first NPD victory all year, and generated a record breaking $400,000,000 in revenue.. Period.. these are the facts, gentlemen.. Halo 5 sold a lot of software, Halo 5 moved extra hardware, and Halo 5 made Microsoft a ton of money..
Halo 5 is a success by any logical metric..
That's okay, they will just continue to move the goalpost.
Time for the Lems to break out the white flag. Wish I could say it was a good battle but MS brought a knife to a gun fight. The mighty Halo failed and flopped and that was their last hope. Better luck next gen guys.
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