Official BIOSHOCK Discussion Thread (Volume 2) - 3 day suspension for ignoring

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Teuf, did you download the new 163.44 nVidia drivers?Teufelhuhn

Then I guess there's still hope for AA, since the drivers improve Bioshock compatibility. My demo download finishes in 2 hours.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Teuf, did you download the new 163.44 nVidia drivers?TrueReligion_

Then I guess there's still hope for AA, since the drivers improve Bioshock compatibility. My demo download finishes in 2 hours.

I just got done downloading the 163.44 drivers. They were made 17 Aug 2007, LOL!! :lol: Nvidia is really trying to keep up.

I've played the Xbox360 version and the PC version in DirectX10 mode with my nVidia settings on quality. Resolution on PC was set at 1360x768.

I noticed the PC version definately has LESS jaggies than the Xbox version. This was one of the first things I noticed because I noticed the Xbox 360 version did look a little jagged on adges.

The PC version's fire effects, as I noticed at the start seemed to look a lot hotter, and looked like the fire was really blazing. The hot glowing embers of ash and the smoke seemed to look better and more detailed in DirectX10 on the PC.

Water didn't really seem to look much better, although the glow effects of light and reflections was clearer on the PC.

Load times on the PC seemed to be about a few seconds slower then the 360, but I think this was due to my craptacularly slow hard drive in my PC.

Textures on the PC were clearer, sharper and a little more detailed.

Framerates were higher on my PC, even in DirectX10 and on 1360x768 resolution, quality nVidia settings and everything set maximum.

As you go around the levels too there seemed to be more subtle smoke effects like lingering smoke that dissipated slowly on the PC.

Anyway if you want screens of it on the Xbox360 and the PC let me know. Videos too.

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Teuf, did you download the new 163.44 nVidia drivers?eastside49er

Then I guess there's still hope for AA, since the drivers improve Bioshock compatibility. My demo download finishes in 2 hours.

I just got done downloading the 163.44 drivers. They were made 17 Aug 2007, LOL!! :lol: Nvidia is really trying to keep up.

Oh...wow....nVidia is really dissapointing me..hopefully these drivers will impress me.

Have you downloaded the demo, yet? I still have ~2 hours left..

I've played the Xbox360 version and the PC version in DirectX10 mode with my nVidia settings on quality. Resolution on PC was set at 1360x768.

I noticed the PC version definately has LESS jaggies than the Xbox version. This was one of the first things I noticed because I noticed the Xbox 360 version did look a little jagged on adges.

The PC version's fire effects, as I noticed at the start seemed to look a lot hotter, and looked like the fire was really blazing. The hot glowing embers of ash and the smoke seemed to look better and more detailed in DirectX10 on the PC.

Water didn't really seem to look much better, although the glow effects of light and reflections was clearer on the PC.

Load times on the PC seemed to be about a few seconds slower then the 360, but I think this was due to my craptacularly slow hard drive in my PC.

Textures on the PC were clearer, sharper and a little more detailed.

Framerates were higher on my PC, even in DirectX10 and on 1360x768 resolution, quality nVidia settings and everything set maximum.

As you go around the levels too there seemed to be more subtle smoke effects like lingering smoke that dissipated slowly on the PC.

Anyway if you want screens of it on the Xbox360 and the PC let me know. Videos too.

-Unreal-

Have you played it in Dx9? If so, is there a noticeable difference between Dx9 and Dx10?

[QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Teuf, did you download the new 163.44 nVidia drivers?TrueReligion_

Then I guess there's still hope for AA, since the drivers improve Bioshock compatibility. My demo download finishes in 2 hours.

I just got done downloading the 163.44 drivers. They were made 17 Aug 2007, LOL!! :lol: Nvidia is really trying to keep up.

Oh...wow....nVidia is really dissapointing me..hopefully these drivers will impress me.

Have you downloaded the demo, yet? I still have ~2 hours left..

I have the 360 demo and that is all I need. I have the PC version of the game and I'm hoping I can play it tonight at midnight.

I have the 360 demo and that is all I need. I have the PC version of the game and I'm hoping I can play it tonight at midnight.

eastside49er

The game doesn't unlock until 12PM PST. :(

[QUOTE="eastside49er"]

I have the 360 demo and that is all I need. I have the PC version of the game and I'm hoping I can play it tonight at midnight.

TrueReligion_

The game doesn't unlock until 12PM PST. :(

I keep hearing that, but I'm hoping 2K does the right thing and allows us to activate the game at midnight PST tonight. Considering my local Walmart and the majority of Walmarts around the country will be selling the 360 and PC versions tonight at midnight, I'd say 2K would be stupid if they waited. A lot of pissed off people that is for sure.

does anyone else think the Vita Chambers (real-time respawn system with no lost progress) make the game too easy? Maybe if there was a limited number of respawns per Chamber before you got a GAME OVER, it would offer more of a challenge, but the way it is sounds like it won't be a problem to beat at all.Mordred19

Is it true that everytime you pass a Vita chamber the game saves for you? I think that's dumb. Cause what if I did something wrong or I need to go back and redo how I played a fight or whatever. If I accidentally pass it i'm screwed

5 / 10

SONY Defence Force Scored BioshockLOL :P (sonydefenseforce.com)

does anyone else think the Vita Chambers (real-time respawn system with no lost progress) make the game too easy? Maybe if there was a limited number of respawns per Chamber before you got a GAME OVER, it would offer more of a challenge, but the way it is sounds like it won't be a problem to beat at all.Mordred19

yeha i wish they woulda scrapped that idea from the demo but oh well its a small gripe with an other wise amazing achievement in gaming history

Is it true that everytime you pass a Vita chamber the game saves for you? I think that's dumb. Cause what if I did something wrong or I need to go back and redo how I played a fight or whatever. If I accidentally pass it i'm screwed kcpp2b

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]does anyone else think the Vita Chambers (real-time respawn system with no lost progress) make the game too easy? Maybe if there was a limited number of respawns per Chamber before you got a GAME OVER, it would offer more of a challenge, but the way it is sounds like it won't be a problem to beat at all.kcpp2b

Is it true that everytime you pass a Vita chamber the game saves for you? I think that's dumb. Cause what if I did something wrong or I need to go back and redo how I played a fight or whatever. If I accidentally pass it i'm screwed

I assume that is where you have the option to save. If they were just normal save points like the typewriters in Resident Evil, than everything would be okay in my book.

SONY Defence Force Scored Bioshock 5 / 10 LOL :P (sonydefenseforce.com

Mystery_Writer

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]does anyone else think the Vita Chambers (real-time respawn system with no lost progress) make the game too easy? Maybe if there was a limited number of respawns per Chamber before you got a GAME OVER, it would offer more of a challenge, but the way it is sounds like it won't be a problem to beat at all.kcpp2b

Is it true that everytime you pass a Vita chamber the game saves for you? I think that's dumb. Cause what if I did something wrong or I need to go back and redo how I played a fight or whatever. If I accidentally pass it i'm screwed

Wait, what do you guys mean by the game being locked? How can they make it so you can't play it until 12am PST? I doubt it uses the internet, so couldn't you just turn your system clock up and unlock it?Sooshy

It does...you need to connect to the internet one time to activate your installation.

Wait, what do you guys mean by the game being locked? How can they make it so you can't play it until 12am PST? I doubt it uses the internet, so couldn't you just turn your system clock up and unlock it?Sooshy

You have to activate the game through 2K servers otherwise you can't play it. I have had the PC version for a couple of days and since the servers aren't up yet, I can't play the game.

Wait, what do you guys mean by the game being locked? How can they make it so you can't play it until 12am PST? I doubt it uses the internet, so couldn't you just turn your system clock up and unlock it?Sooshy

someone said walmart is selling at midnight? is this true? if so im def going but i have a feeling they wont have someone waiting around til midnight to put it in the glass cases they have but i guess ill check it out a 5 minute drive even with a failed attempt and no bioshock for a few more hours is still worth the try blues3531

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]does anyone else think the Vita Chambers (real-time respawn system with no lost progress) make the game too easy? Maybe if there was a limited number of respawns per Chamber before you got a GAME OVER, it would offer more of a challenge, but the way it is sounds like it won't be a problem to beat at all.blues3531

yeha i wish they woulda scrapped that idea from the demo but oh well its a small gripe with an other wise amazing achievement in gaming history

true, but I would like a challenge when I play that amazing acheivement in gaming history in order to make the journey more satisfying.

[QUOTE="blues3531"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]does anyone else think the Vita Chambers (real-time respawn system with no lost progress) make the game too easy? Maybe if there was a limited number of respawns per Chamber before you got a GAME OVER, it would offer more of a challenge, but the way it is sounds like it won't be a problem to beat at all.Mordred19

yeha i wish they woulda scrapped that idea from the demo but oh well its a small gripe with an other wise amazing achievement in gaming history

true, but I would like a challenge when I play that amazing acheivement in gaming history in order to make the journey more satisfying.

[QUOTE="blues3531"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]does anyone else think the Vita Chambers (real-time respawn system with no lost progress) make the game too easy? Maybe if there was a limited number of respawns per Chamber before you got a GAME OVER, it would offer more of a challenge, but the way it is sounds like it won't be a problem to beat at all.Mordred19

yeha i wish they woulda scrapped that idea from the demo but oh well its a small gripe with an other wise amazing achievement in gaming history

true, but I would like a challenge when I play that amazing acheivement in gaming history in order to make the journey more satisfying.

Irrational's thoughts behind the Vita-chambers is that they wanted to make the game without frustrating the players.

[QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="blues3531"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]does anyone else think the Vita Chambers (real-time respawn system with no lost progress) make the game too easy? Maybe if there was a limited number of respawns per Chamber before you got a GAME OVER, it would offer more of a challenge, but the way it is sounds like it won't be a problem to beat at all.Zero_Fate_

yeha i wish they woulda scrapped that idea from the demo but oh well its a small gripe with an other wise amazing achievement in gaming history

true, but I would like a challenge when I play that amazing acheivement in gaming history in order to make the journey more satisfying.

Irrational's thoughts behind the Vita-chambers is that they wanted to make the game without frustrating the players.

And the big daddies are probably going to kill you quite a bit

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]does anyone else think the Vita Chambers (real-time respawn system with no lost progress) make the game too easy? Maybe if there was a limited number of respawns per Chamber before you got a GAME OVER, it would offer more of a challenge, but the way it is sounds like it won't be a problem to beat at all.Mordred19

Is it true that everytime you pass a Vita chamber the game saves for you? I think that's dumb. Cause what if I did something wrong or I need to go back and redo how I played a fight or whatever. If I accidentally pass it i'm screwed

I assume that is where you have the option to save. If they were just normal save points like the typewriters in Resident Evil, than everything would be okay in my book.

I agree

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]does anyone else think the Vita Chambers (real-time respawn system with no lost progress) make the game too easy? Maybe if there was a limited number of respawns per Chamber before you got a GAME OVER, it would offer more of a challenge, but the way it is sounds like it won't be a problem to beat at all.rdo

Is it true that everytime you pass a Vita chamber the game saves for you? I think that's dumb. Cause what if I did something wrong or I need to go back and redo how I played a fight or whatever. If I accidentally pass it i'm screwed

So where does the game start from if I turn it off ya know? From the last vita I passed?

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]does anyone else think the Vita Chambers (real-time respawn system with no lost progress) make the game too easy? Maybe if there was a limited number of respawns per Chamber before you got a GAME OVER, it would offer more of a challenge, but the way it is sounds like it won't be a problem to beat at all.Mordred19

Is it true that everytime you pass a Vita chamber the game saves for you? I think that's dumb. Cause what if I did something wrong or I need to go back and redo how I played a fight or whatever. If I accidentally pass it i'm screwed

I assume that is where you have the option to save. If they were just normal save points like the typewriters in Resident Evil, than everything would be okay in my book.

I think i can confirm a PS3 version coming out. I looked in the PC demo's ConfigINI file and found this inside it:

[Console]

;; Console (XBox360, PS3) specific settings

;; StreamingDynamicFloatingLimit:
;; If this is a positive number, then instead of using the fixed per-level
;; limits, the StreamingDynamic resource will use as much memory as is
;; available as long as the total memory allocated by the game is less than
;; the specified number. In other words, StreamingDynamic will grow and
;; shrink to fit to the available memory instead of being locked to a fixed
;; budget
StreamingDynamicFloatingLimit=500

I think i can confirm a PS3 version coming out. I looked in the PC demo's ConfigINI file and found this inside it:


[Console]

;; Console (XBox360, PS3) specific settings

;; StreamingDynamicFloatingLimit:
;; If this is a positive number, then instead of using the fixed per-level
;; limits, the StreamingDynamic resource will use as much memory as is
;; available as long as the total memory allocated by the game is less than
;; the specified number. In other words, StreamingDynamic will grow and
;; shrink to fit to the available memory instead of being locked to a fixed
;; budget
StreamingDynamicFloatingLimit=500
Halo2_Norad

I would actually prefer a game designed around the concept of forced saves - that is - none of this wonderful "oh, the consequences of my actions turned out to be horrific - let me reload" - it would make fights that much more interesting if you knew "if I accidently kill the Little Sister, there's no going back - there's no reload button - that's it!"

My first play through of Bioshock is going to be that way - straight through, no reloading - and hopefully no deaths. Makes a frightening game that much more on-edge when you take away the reset button.

If you want to give yourself a challenge, forget about grinding for achievements, and instead try and play through like it's real - you'll find yourself actually role-playing the game, instead of just meta-gaming it. After all, if you were really in Rapture, would you keep in a fight against a Big Daddy who was devastatingly more powerful than you - or would you run away?
subrosian

If you were in Rapture, had the ability to revive consequence-free aside from lost items and ammo, and knew about it, chances are you wouldn't run away.

[QUOTE="blues3531"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]does anyone else think the Vita Chambers (real-time respawn system with no lost progress) make the game too easy? Maybe if there was a limited number of respawns per Chamber before you got a GAME OVER, it would offer more of a challenge, but the way it is sounds like it won't be a problem to beat at all.Mordred19

yeha i wish they woulda scrapped that idea from the demo but oh well its a small gripe with an other wise amazing achievement in gaming history

true, but I would like a challenge when I play that amazing acheivement in gaming history in order to make the journey more satisfying.

well if u get good u wont be dying much anyways, i went like 17/20 hours my first playthrough when it came out in re4 w/o seeing any death animations yet

[QUOTE="subrosian"]

I would actually prefer a game designed around the concept of forced saves - that is - none of this wonderful "oh, the consequences of my actions turned out to be horrific - let me reload" - it would make fights that much more interesting if you knew "if I accidently kill the Little Sister, there's no going back - there's no reload button - that's it!"

My first play through of Bioshock is going to be that way - straight through, no reloading - and hopefully no deaths. Makes a frightening game that much more on-edge when you take away the reset button.

If you want to give yourself a challenge, forget about grinding for achievements, and instead try and play through like it's real - you'll find yourself actually role-playing the game, instead of just meta-gaming it. After all, if you were really in Rapture, would you keep in a fight against a Big Daddy who was devastatingly more powerful than you - or would you run away?
Technoweirdo

If you were in Rapture, had the ability to revive consequence-free aside from lost items and ammo, and knew about it, chances are you wouldn't run away.

[QUOTE="Technoweirdo"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

I would actually prefer a game designed around the concept of forced saves - that is - none of this wonderful "oh, the consequences of my actions turned out to be horrific - let me reload" - it would make fights that much more interesting if you knew "if I accidently kill the Little Sister, there's no going back - there's no reload button - that's it!"

My first play through of Bioshock is going to be that way - straight through, no reloading - and hopefully no deaths. Makes a frightening game that much more on-edge when you take away the reset button.

If you want to give yourself a challenge, forget about grinding for achievements, and instead try and play through like it's real - you'll find yourself actually role-playing the game, instead of just meta-gaming it. After all, if you were really in Rapture, would you keep in a fight against a Big Daddy who was devastatingly more powerful than you - or would you run away?
subrosian

If you were in Rapture, had the ability to revive consequence-free aside from lost items and ammo, and knew about it, chances are you wouldn't run away.

I'd find it funny if there was some plamid or tonic that affected your nervous system so that you can't feel physical pain, but otherwise yeah, I'd probably avoid a second Me with monkeywrench vs Big Daddy with drill deathmatch due to the pain.

I wonder what coming back from the dead would be like in real life though.

I think i can confirm a PS3 version coming out. I looked in the PC demo's ConfigINI file and found this inside it:

Halo2_Norad

I think that is a generic UE3 thing actually. That is there in other UE3 based games for 360 and PS3. Since UT3 is on PS3 that is why this code is there. Just simply cause PS3 is getting some UE3 based games. Thats all. Doesn't mean Bioshock is coming for PS3.

I'd find it funny if there was some plamid or tonic that affected your nervous system so that you can't feel physical pain, but otherwise yeah, I'd probably avoid a second Me with monkeywrench vs Big Daddy with drill deathmatch due to the pain.

I wonder what coming back from the dead would be like in real life though.

Technoweirdo

VIVA BIOSHOCK!!!!rompetraseros

[QUOTE="rompetraseros"]VIVA BIOSHOCK!!!!RobbieH1234

WHAT THE HELL????? why still no review? i mean, is this some sort of sick game they're playing?

first they put up this little "bioshock launch center" thing and get everyone excited; then after waiting all weekend, they tell us the review's going up on monday, so i wait till 12 AM PST...STILL NO REVIEW, so i get pissed off and go to sleep in disappointment; then i wake up this morning, check the site, and lo and behold, STILL NO REVIEW; and now i check again, and once again, STILL NO REVIEW

i mean, seriously, what the hell is wrong with these people? what's taking them so long? is it because jeff's 360 RrOD'd on him? did his computer blow up and he lost everything on it, including the review he already wrote for bioshock so he's writing a new one? or better yet, is it because they are just lazy? or have a sick sense of humor and enjoy toying with their readerbase? or because they're trying to think up some pointless little icon to make for their new (and ridiculous) review system?

POST THE DAMN REVIEW ALREADY

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