Official Halo: Reach Thread! Last Hurrah For the Beta!

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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]Second time playing invasion. Now that I actually know what to do... I like it. I actually don't mind that it's 6v6 either. I never did like anything more than 4v4 in Halo before. But 6v6 up to 100 is something I like.twitchmonkey399

This is just the Beta. The final release is expected to be 8v8, maybe even 10vs10.

Bungie confirmed Invasion would be 8v8.

But it's important to note that Bungie has also stated that nothing is set in stone at this point.

pistol clip should be 12. pistol/DMR should be 4 shot kills. make it happen bungie.

lespaul1919

I played another match of it, it turned out I was wrong, Elites get needle rifle and plasma pistol, not a plasma rifle and plasma pistol. When I played as a Spartan I didn't really notice that big of an advantage for elites, but when I played as an elite I was able to notice a slight advantage. Faster speed + Dodge + Shorter time for shields to recharge = me getting out of a lot of deaths I would have suffered as a spartan. Though it is odd getting into a melee fight against spartans as an elite because they are so much shorter than you. To be honest though, It never actually felt too imbalanced. No it isn't something that I would put in Arena, but it's a fun gametype that I don't mind playing in grab bag.bobderwood97_1

You brought something up, size differences between Elites and Spartans. It is awesome that Bungie did it that way! Assassinating Elites a Spartan is cool because you have to climb up them -- their size differences is also a great way to make Elites seem more alien.

But to talk about SvE again, I haven't played as Spartans yet, but it is pretty easy to win as an Elite.

My exams are finally over, my girlfriend is out of town for a few days so i have the place all to myself, and the beta ends in a couple days. >_>Ninja-Hippo

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pistol clip should be 12. pistol/DMR should be 4 shot kills. make it happen bungie.

Sandvichman

a rifle that takes 4 shots to the head to kill is a weapon of mass destruction? that's some noob logic.

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

pistol clip should be 12. pistol/DMR should be 4 shot kills. make it happen bungie.

lespaul1919

a rifle that takes 4 shots to the head to kill is a weapon of mass destruction? that's some noob logic.

You don't need to call anyone who disagrees with you a "noob".

I just think that he is saying that he is fine with the DMR anyway. 4-shots were what was frowned upon by most in halo 3, and if you make the DMR a 4-shot, it will be even more powerful.

are you serious? everyone loves the 4 shot. would be even better if the br had been 3. anyone who wants the skillful weapons to take a ton to kill simply can't use them. as it stands it takes longer to kill someone with headshots from the DMR than any spew guns like the AR or needler (which take no skill whatsoever). skill should be rewarded, like in past halo games.

the saving grace will be if we can modify weapon specific damage in forge. then MLG will be 3SK's again. yay.

I understand bungie wants to level the playing field. making it harder for pros and easier for joe's. but in halo I want to feel like I can totally destroy someone. I mean out shoot them so bad they shut off their console and go pout in the corner.

take yesterday for example. I got on halo PC and played a while. one game I made 3 people rage quit from totally rolling them. mmmmm halo.

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"] Good idea, turn the DMR into a weapon of mass destruction.lespaul1919

a rifle that takes 4 shots to the head to kill is a weapon of mass destruction? that's some noob logic.

are you serious? everyone loves the 4 shot. would be even better if the br had been 3. anyone who wants the skillful weapons to take a ton to kill simply can't use them. as it stands it takes longer to kill someone with headshots from the DMR than any spew guns like the AR or needler (which take no skill whatsoever). skill should be rewarded, like in past halo games.

the saving grace will be if we can modify weapon specific damage in forge. then MLG will be 3SK's again. yay.

I understand bungie wants to level the playing field. making it harder for pros and easier for joe's. but in halo I want to feel like I can totally destroy someone. I mean out shoot them so bad they shut off their console and go pout in the corner.

take yesterday for example. I got on halo PC and played a while. one game I made 3 people rage quit from totally rolling them. mmmmm halo.

lespaul1919

are you serious? everyone loves the 4 shot. would be even better if the br had been 3. anyone who wants the skillful weapons to take a ton to kill simply can't use them. as it stands it takes longer to kill someone with headshots from the DMR than any spew guns like the AR or needler (which take no skill whatsoever). skill should be rewarded, like in past halo games.

the saving grace will be if we can modify weapon specific damage in forge. then MLG will be 3SK's again. yay.

I understand bungie wants to level the playing field. making it harder for pros and easier for joe's. but in halo I want to feel like I can totally destroy someone. I mean out shoot them so bad they shut off their console and go pout in the corner.

take yesterday for example. I got on halo PC and played a while. one game I made 3 people rage quit from totally rolling them. mmmmm halo.

lespaul1919

the beta is AMAZING. i love invasion and the needler rifle.

Yep. As-is the DMR/nerfle/pistol are pretty useless at-range -- unless you have a shooting gallery like the first phase of Invasion, it's too easy for an opponent to run to cover before you get that fifth shot in. I get that part of the reason is to put an emphasis on teamwork and smart play (whereas an above-average lone-wolf in H3 could completely run a game of TS with the BR), but it really limits the medium-long range weapon's usefulness (and it's all-but single-handedly ruined Sword Base).

I got to argue against making the Pistol/DMR/Needle rifle being any stronger. Especially the pistol - at close range - medium range it already edges out the Assault. I think as it is now it encourages team shooting. Two people shooting in tandem overrides the weaker power of these weapons and discourages single players from going off on their own and slowly picking the enemies off at range.

I'm happy for the change, honestly. Halo Reach seems to encourage proper teamwork even more than Halo 3, where spectacular players could carry the slack of the rest of their team.

Making the DMR/Pistol four-shot weapons would basically be Halo 3 all over again. The BR made Halo 3 very un-unique. Hardly anyone I saw in a BR game used anything besides the BR, Sniper Rifle, Rockets, and Spartan Laser. The way Halo: Reach is now, with the five shot DMR/Pistol and Loadouts makes it feel more like the first Halo, where any gun was useful in a way.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Did I have 2 crappy games, or is Network Test 1 laggy? I had 2 games with noticeable lag, then I jumped onto Invasion and it was fine, what gives?lawlessx

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Did I have 2 crappy games, or is Network Test 1 laggy? I had 2 games with noticeable lag, then I jumped onto Invasion and it was fine, what gives?lawlessx

Yep. As-is the DMR/nerfle/pistol are pretty useless at-range -- unless you have a shooting gallery like the first phase of Invasion, it's too easy for an opponent to run to cover before you get that fifth shot in. I get that part of the reason is to put an emphasis on teamwork and smart play (whereas an above-average lone-wolf in H3 could completely run a game of TS with the BR), but it really limits the medium-long range weapon's usefulness (and it's all-but single-handedly ruined Sword Base).

PBSnipes

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Yep. As-is the DMR/nerfle/pistol are pretty useless at-range -- unless you have a shooting gallery like the first phase of Invasion, it's too easy for an opponent to run to cover before you get that fifth shot in. I get that part of the reason is to put an emphasis on teamwork and smart play (whereas an above-average lone-wolf in H3 could completely run a game of TS with the BR), but it really limits the medium-long range weapon's usefulness (and it's all-but single-handedly ruined Sword Base).

jg4xchamp

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Yep. As-is the DMR/nerfle/pistol are pretty useless at-range -- unless you have a shooting gallery like the first phase of Invasion, it's too easy for an opponent to run to cover before you get that fifth shot in. I get that part of the reason is to put an emphasis on teamwork and smart play (whereas an above-average lone-wolf in H3 could completely run a game of TS with the BR), but it really limits the medium-long range weapon's usefulness (and it's all-but single-handedly ruined Sword Base).

DarkLink77

it's overwhelming and confusing:? took me a few dozen games to get it down.

are you serious? everyone loves the 4 shot. would be even better if the br had been 3. anyone who wants the skillful weapons to take a ton to kill simply can't use them. as it stands it takes longer to kill someone with headshots from the DMR than any spew guns like the AR or needler (which take no skill whatsoever). skill should be rewarded

lespaul1919

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Did I have 2 crappy games, or is Network Test 1 laggy? I had 2 games with noticeable lag, then I jumped onto Invasion and it was fine, what gives?SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"] They're using the co-op netcode for Generator Defense, it's a test really.mitu123

Oh, and nice sig :P

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] Reminded me of ODST Firefight, if I played with Americans it would lag like that.SaltyMeatballs

Oh, and nice sig :P

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Wait, you're from the UK?

mitu123

Oh, and nice sig :P

I didn't know, and thanks too.

mitu123

Nice sig Mitu! I feel like I've watched you progress as an artist, having seen most all of your sigs, and this one is certainly amaong the best. :) I particularly like the colors.

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I didn't know, and thanks too.

psn8214

Nice sig Mitu! I feel like I've watched you progress as an artist, having seen most all of your sigs, and this one is certainly amaong the best. :) I particularly like the colors.

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I didn't know, and thanks too.

mitu123

Nice sig Mitu! I feel like I've watched you progress as an artist, having seen most all of your sigs, and this one is certainly amaong the best. :) I particularly like the colors.

Nah, I'm not that good. :P Thanks for the compliment. :)

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Did I have 2 crappy games, or is Network Test 1 laggy? I had 2 games with noticeable lag, then I jumped onto Invasion and it was fine, what gives?Sandvichman

So there is a possibility for matchmaking in firefight then?

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Did I have 2 crappy games, or is Network Test 1 laggy? I had 2 games with noticeable lag, then I jumped onto Invasion and it was fine, what gives?siddhu33

So there is a possibility for matchmaking in firefight then?

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] They're using the co-op netcode for Generator Defense, it's a test really.SaltyMeatballs

So there is a possibility for matchmaking in firefight then?

I don't think that they had time to do that, I mean, 14 people coded and made ODST, and after they finished, they probably went right back to reach.

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Did I have 2 crappy games, or is Network Test 1 laggy? I had 2 games with noticeable lag, then I jumped onto Invasion and it was fine, what gives?siddhu33

So there is a possibility for matchmaking in firefight then?

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] They're using the co-op netcode for Generator Defense, it's a test really.Sandvichman

So there is a possibility for matchmaking in firefight then?

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="siddhu33"]

So there is a possibility for matchmaking in firefight then?

SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"] No idea, the netcode they are using is from the campaign, but i could be wrong.mitu123

best kind was when it fooled you and made it look like input lag.

2 second reaction time is fun.:(