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#601 haris12121212
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Wow :| such a low score, didn't expect it... I loved the demo... anyway...
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#602 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]It's not even that.

Lets see then:

Have you played the full product? No. Check.

Do you disagree with the review? Yes. Check.

Do you belive Gamespot has lost credibility because of a single review of a game you havn't played except for a demo? Yes. Check.

So basically when we add this all up, your post = damange control.

It's as simple as that.

xsubtownerx

Right. Expect for the fact GS gave the lowest score so far out of all the critics. I think there is reason for some damage control for those who have played the demo. I for one, after reading the IGN review this morning, think this GS reviewer is pretty weak.

Dosn't matter that it is the lowest score. You can not agree or disagree with it until you play the full product, it simply isn't possible. You could just as easily agree with the IGN review as you could the GS review after playing it. The demo is just that, a simple demonstration that gives the player a mere sample of the final product. I'm not saying the review is right, but what I am saying is that it can't possibly be said to be wrong by people who have not played the final game. For those that attempt to do so, that is known as damage control, and I'm sorry to tell you that you are quilty (EDIT:Word jumble.) of that. If you don't like the review fine, don't let it impact your descision, but don't try and question the critics crediblity when you have none your self/ lack the requirements to do so.

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#603 II-FBIsniper-II
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I guess I'll rent it. I'm disappointed that it is that short.
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#604 JakeTD21
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I hope this finally puts to rest that Gamespot is biased.
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#605 thespywholied
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all the cows need is kz2 to get AAA and they will win feb. :D i liked the demo. but i will pass.
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#606 spinecaton
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So basically, after reading and watching the review, if it's not a shooter gamespot won't like it. Doesn't anybody find it strange that they're the ones that gave this game it's lowest score? Don't you also find it strange that Age of Empires scored a 6.8 here also?xsubtownerx

I have to agree, it seems that shooters always score high even when they aren't that great while other genres have a tough time getting a AA score from GS.

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#607 hopesfall2own
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Sites ranking this a 9 are ultimate fan boys. I can accept an 8 but a 9? Give me a break. Its an uber easy short boring looking uninnovative CONSOLE Rts. 7 seems like a decent score.


Gamespot has been rating games low lately almost to make up for their overrating games for so long

acsguitar
So sites that rank it high are fanboys but sites that rank it absurdly low aren't? ...good logic.
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#608 Enosh88
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]Ok so now onto the next big game. If a certain FPS thats due out soon scores 6.5 or lower. I will personaly eat my PS3 and post it up on youtube.Uptown

I will drop out of dental school if Killzone 2 gets a 6.5. (It wont)

I am so bookmarking this

just in case^^

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#609 Tekkenloving
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wow the damage control in this thread is impressive already over 600 posts
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#610 shoeman12
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i played the demo, it deserves more than that, but whatever. it's just gamespot scoring it their own way. so cows, you can pretend like you achieved some little victory,
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#611 xsubtownerx
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]It's not even that.

Lets see then:

Have you played the full product? No. Check.

Do you disagree with the review? Yes. Check.

Do you belive Gamespot has lost credibility because of a single review of a game you havn't played except for a demo? Yes. Check.

So basically when we add this all up, your post = damange control.

It's as simple as that.

WasntAvailable

Right. Expect for the fact GS gave the lowest score so far out of all the critics. I think there is reason for some damage control for those who have played the demo. I for one, after reading the IGN review this morning, think this GS reviewer is pretty weak.

Dosn't matter that it is the lowest score. You can not agree or disagree with it until you play the full product, it simply isn't possible. You could just as easily agree with the IGN review as you could the GS review after playing it. The demo is just that, a simple demonstration that gives the player a mere sample of the final product. I'm not saying the review is right, but what I am saying is that it can't possibly be said to be wrong by people who have not played the final game. For those that attempt to do so, that is known as damage control, and I'm sorry to tell you that you are quilty (EDIT:Word jumble.) of that. If you don't like the review fine, don't let it impact your descision, but don't try and question the critics crediblity when you have none your self/ lack the requirements to do so.

I've never let a review decide my game purchases. And never plan on letting them do so either. But I have every right in the world to question some reviewer's credibility after reading so many other reviews of the same game. And then matching those reviews with my experience with the demo. He doesn't mention anything about the multiplayer aspect of the game. I mean maybe all reviewers should start reviewing games based on the campaign and not the multiplayer gameplay. I wonder how well FPS games would score if they all did it that way. This game wasn't designed for single player gaming only. :roll:
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#612 t3hTwinky
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Ensemble + Halo + Console RTS = I saw this coming from miles away.

A five hour singleplayer campaign? If it's true, that's just pathetic.

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#613 sam280992
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My first reaction was... WHOOOOO.... :shocked: That is low!!! Then I laughed :lol:
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#614 madsnakehhh
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After reading the review, i can see why the low score, he mention some pretty important points in the game that definetely took some points away, like tha lack of playable factions, the short campaing and the multiplayer not too enterteining, and you cant say that this factors aren't important in a RTS game.
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#615 TheOddQuantum
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I didn't read the GS review.

I read this one, and agree with it completely.

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#616 FragTycoon
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wow the damage control in this thread is impressive already over 600 postsTekkenloving

Finally! the shipment of DC has arrived... for a second I though SW had failed me.

I give credit to the few that just shrug it of and don't bother posting some essay about how GS reviews are this or that.

It's a flop in SW, not at your house.

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#617 blackeneddeath
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[QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

Ensemble + Halo + Console RTS = I saw this coming from miles away.

A five hour singleplayer campaign? If it's true, that's just pathetic.

Five hour single player? wow... from what RTS games i played, a single mission usually takes 1-3 hours to do
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#619 _LiquidFlame_
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I'm sorry, but that really is horrible.
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#620 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]

Right. Expect for the fact GS gave the lowest score so far out of all the critics. I think there is reason for some damage control for those who have played the demo. I for one, after reading the IGN review this morning, think this GS reviewer is pretty weak.

xsubtownerx

Dosn't matter that it is the lowest score. You can not agree or disagree with it until you play the full product, it simply isn't possible. You could just as easily agree with the IGN review as you could the GS review after playing it. The demo is just that, a simple demonstration that gives the player a mere sample of the final product. I'm not saying the review is right, but what I am saying is that it can't possibly be said to be wrong by people who have not played the final game. For those that attempt to do so, that is known as damage control, and I'm sorry to tell you that you are quilty (EDIT:Word jumble.) of that. If you don't like the review fine, don't let it impact your descision, but don't try and question the critics crediblity when you have none your self/ lack the requirements to do so.

I've never let a review decide my game purchases. And never plan on letting them do so either. But I have every right in the world to question some reviewer's credibility after reading so many other reviews of the same game. And then matching those reviews with my experience with the demo. He doesn't mention anything about the multiplayer aspect of the game. I mean maybe all reviewers should start reviewing games based on the campaign and not the multiplayer gameplay. I wonder how well FPS games would score if they all did it that way. This game wasn't designed for single player gaming only. :roll:

You have every right to question credibility after you have played through the game. To do so before hand is damage control, in order to reasure your self that you will enjoy the experience. I don't see you critising the flaws of the IGN review, even though I am sure they are there. Care to explain why?

There's no need to answer though, I already know why, just make sure you do before you try to do this again.

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#622 agentfred
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Oh.

I was one of the people expecting a AAA from GS. I'm at a loss for words right now.:shock:

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#623 river_rat3117
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this is lame if it didnt have halo in the name no one would care about this score. face it people arent defending the game as much as they are the halo name
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#625 Floppy_Jim
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For anyone who cares, Eurogamer have reviewed it.
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#626 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Gamespot is still at the very bottom at Metacritic. Average is at a strong 82.
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#628 Mr_Apple_Soup
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hehe this is just like when all the cows were accusing gamespot of being "lemspot"

it's amazing how many people suddenly trust IGN and metacritic (among other sites) over gamespot

teh hipocracy!1!!

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#629 Salt_The_Fries
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It's weird that most of big titles on 360 get flopped for random reasons, yet I don't remember anything beside last Ratchet and Clank on PS3 that was flopped in a random fashion. Hey, I can understand their 7.5 for Race Pro, but 6.5 for Halo Wars? The same score for Rise of the Argonauts which is the most pathetic technical mess I ever played? (the game underneath is decent-to-quite-good though, just the technical side of it is a total mess). I don't know what GS did try to manifest in here? I guess I have to find out by myself.
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#630 Salt_The_Fries
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# Very few multiplayer options. What's with that? What did they expect? Hey, is there any other RTS on 360 that offers 3 vs. 3 with co-op option? And campaign in co-op? How is that weak? Haven't that reviewer played any other RTSes on 360? And Company of Heroes didn't get demerit that it doesn't have Nazi Campaign (it did have other random demerit, though).
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It's weird that most of big titles on 360 get flopped for random reasons, yet I don't remember anything beside last Ratchet and Clank on PS3 that was flopped in a random fashion. Hey, I can understand their 7.5 for Race Pro, but 6.5 for Halo Wars? The same score for Rise of the Argonauts which is the most pathetic technical mess I ever played? (the game underneath is decent-to-quite-good though, just the technical side of it is a total mess). I don't know what GS did try to manifest in here? I guess I have to find out by myself.Salt_The_Fries

I believe the review for halo wars said the game is too simple, not that there is a pile of technical problems. Too simple = no depth = no fun.

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#632 TheOwnerOner
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GS game it the lowest score out of all the reviews, I think we all can agree that GS is an unreliable source of review for Halo Wars.
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#633 FragTycoon
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For anyone who cares, Eurogamer have reviewed it.Floppy_Jim

"As a return to one of the 360's most popular universe, it's about as good an RTS as a Halo fan could expect."

Oh, so true :lol:

as a RTS fan?

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#634 carlisledavid79
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]GS game it the lowest score out of all the reviews, I think we all can agree that GS is an unreliable source of review for Halo Wars.

I guess they're ok when they're flopping PS3 games though.
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#635 naval
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lol, :lol: looks like a pretty bad start for lemmings this year .. first GS doesn't decides to review GTA IV (most likely their best nad maybe only shot at aaae) and now this :lol:
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#637 loseittoo
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]GS game it the lowest score out of all the reviews, I think we all can agree that GS is an unreliable source of review for Halo Wars.Mr_Apple_Soup

:lol: gotta love damage control

Agree :D :lol:

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#638 Nerd_Man
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Lemmings are now going to create damage control for the next few months just like cows did when GS flopped Socom PS3.
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#639 Teuf_
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Hey, is there any other RTS on 360 that offers 3 vs. 3 with co-op option? And campaign in co-op?Salt_The_Fries


Doesn't Red Alert 3 have those things?
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#640 loseittoo
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Gamespot is still at the very bottom at Metacritic. Average is at a strong 82.Stevo_the_gamer

Now now. I thought we are using only GS scores here right?;)

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#641 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Gamespot is still at the very bottom at Metacritic. Average is at a strong 82.loseittoo

Now now. I thought we are using only GS scores here right?;)

Not since that poll where the majority voted anarchy. ;)

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#642 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Gamespot is still at the very bottom at Metacritic. Average is at a strong 82.loseittoo

Now now. I thought we are using only GS scores here right?;)

Of course -- this game flopped hard here at SystemWars, doesn't mean others can't look at other reviews to get incite on how the game fairs. For exmaple, if you were to write a term paper of a particular subject, would you only get one source?
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#643 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="loseittoo"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Gamespot is still at the very bottom at Metacritic. Average is at a strong 82.Hexagon_777

Now now. I thought we are using only GS scores here right?;)

Not since that poll where the majority voted anarchy. ;)

That was about how we judge "how a console wins". :?
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#644 carlisledavid79
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Gamespot is still at the very bottom at Metacritic. Average is at a strong 82.loseittoo

Now now. I thought we are using only GS scores here right?;)

Dont worry, we will be using them if gamespot flops Killzone 2 ;)
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#645 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="loseittoo"]

Now now. I thought we are using only GS scores here right?;)

Stevo_the_gamer

Not since that poll where the majority voted anarchy. ;)

That was about how we judge "how a console wins". :?

Link me up, mate.

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#646 Salt_The_Fries
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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Hey, is there any other RTS on 360 that offers 3 vs. 3 with co-op option? And campaign in co-op?Teufelhuhn


Doesn't Red Alert 3 have those things?

Hmmm, co-op - yes, but I'm not sure about the number of the participants.

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#647 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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Lemmings are now going to create damage control for the next few months just like cows did when GS flopped Socom PS3.Nerd_Man

I enjoyed the DC in that thread more. "Bu bu bu wait for the patch:cry:"

No patch for Halo Wars, just flop.

Cue the horns!!

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#648 kazrium
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Halo Wars = FLOP-tastic! :cry:

Hmm, I'm not a big fan of RTS games, but I played the demo and it didn't seem that bad. Oh well, I guess it sucks. Though I have a hard time believing that this game is worse then FEAR 2, that game is crap....

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#649 millerlight89
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Awsome stuff, glad to see Gamespot sees the problems with a rts on a console.
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#650 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Hey, is there any other RTS on 360 that offers 3 vs. 3 with co-op option? And campaign in co-op?Salt_The_Fries



Doesn't Red Alert 3 have those things?

Hmmm, co-op - yes, but I'm not sure about the number of the participants.

Its 4 vs 4 on the PC...could be less on consoles.