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#551 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]what happened to dreams?!?!? :shock:carljohnson3456
It's news to me too... :(

Seriously, no one's safe.:?

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Halo wars is a console RTS and as such it shouldn't be measured with PC RTS standards, but MGS4 has to be judged by PC standards despite it being a PS3 GAME? :lol:Stevo_the_gamer
Indeed -- MGS4 isn't judged by PC standards, by PC standards it's hardly impressive, and is average at best. Crysis and Crysis Warhead, along with games like Assassin's Creed, and Stalker runs circles around MGS4. :|

Metal Gear Solid should be reviewed by Ebert and Roper because it's 90% movie.

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Halo wars is a console RTS and as such it shouldn't be measured with PC RTS standards, but MGS4 has to be judged by PC standards despite it being a PS3 GAME? :lol:Stevo_the_gamer
Indeed -- MGS4 isn't judged by PC standards, by PC standards it's hardly impressive, and is average at best. Crysis and Crysis Warhead, along with games like Assassin's Creed, and Stalker runs circles around MGS4. :|

All do except AC. MGS4 is amazing though, outside of Stalker and Crysis(beats MGS4 by a lot), it stands close to most PC games which is impressive.

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#554 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Just looked at Metacritic and out of 26 reviews, Gamespot has given Halo Wars it's lowest rated review. Congratulations Gamespot. The average is a 82 is anyone is interested.
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#555 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Halo wars is a console RTS and as such it shouldn't be measured with PC RTS standards, but MGS4 has to be judged by PC standards despite it being a PS3 GAME? :lol:Netherscourge

Indeed -- MGS4 isn't judged by PC standards, by PC standards it's hardly impressive, and is average at best. Crysis and Crysis Warhead, along with games like Assassin's Creed, and Stalker runs circles around MGS4. :|

Metal Gear Solid should be reviewed by Ebert and Roper because it's 90% movie.

There it is...unnecessary MGS hate in a Halo topic. lol.

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Halo wars is a console RTS and as such it shouldn't be measured with PC RTS standards, but MGS4 has to be judged by PC standards despite it being a PS3 GAME? :lol:Stevo_the_gamer
Indeed -- MGS4 isn't judged by PC standards, by PC standards it's hardly impressive, and is average at best. Crysis and Crysis Warhead, along with games like Assassin's Creed, and Stalker runs circles around MGS4. :|

Ok name one Tactican Espionage action PC game released last year so we can compare it with MGS4
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#557 Kahuna_1
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Just looked at Metacritic and out of 26 reviews, Gamespot has given Halo Wars it's lowest rated review. Congratulations Gamespot. The average is a 82 is anyone is interested.Stevo_the_gamer

Same deal with Ratchet and Clank remember? GS was tied for the lowest with some no name.

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#558 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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All do except AC. Kahuna_1

Assassin's Creed on the PC is stunning to look at, especially in 1920x1200 resolution. :|

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#559 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"] Ok name one Tactican Espionage action PC game released last year so we can compare it with MGS4

That's completely irrelevant, we're talking in terms of graphical superiority regarding technical graphics. MGS4 doesn't hold any ground in comparison to PC games which strive for technical graphical excellence. :|
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#560 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

All do except AC. Stevo_the_gamer

Assassin's Creed on the PC is stunning to look at, especially in 1920x1200 resolution. :|

Yeah, but doesnt it require a ridiculous amount of power? Also, how is the framerate? I just didnt like AC and on consoles it chugged hard.

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#561 TenP
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What on earth are you trying to say?

Cherokee_Jack

Ahh I'm pulling hairs. Consolites always laugh at Hermits for saying PC has higher standards, and now they're hiding behind our high standard excuse. xD

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#562 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

All do except AC. Kahuna_1

Assassin's Creed on the PC is stunning to look at, especially in 1920x1200 resolution. :|

Yeah, but doesnt it require a ridiculous amount of power? Also, how is the framerate? I just didnt like AC and on consoles it chugged hard.

So does Crysis, doesn't matter -- the beauty and technical power is still there and it's STUNNING.
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#563 EPaul
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Why is MGS4 and Crysis being mentioned isn't this thread about Halo Wars?
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Halo wars is a console RTS and as such it shouldn't be measured with PC RTS standards, but MGS4 has to be judged by PC standards despite it being a PS3 GAME? :lol:AgentA-Mi6
Indeed -- MGS4 isn't judged by PC standards, by PC standards it's hardly impressive, and is average at best. Crysis and Crysis Warhead, along with games like Assassin's Creed, and Stalker runs circles around MGS4. :|

Ok name one Tactican Espionage action PC game released last year so we can compare it with MGS4

You can play Crysis as a "tactical espionage" game.
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#565 Kahuna_1
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Why is MGS4 and Crysis being mentioned isn't this thread about Halo Wars?EPaul

Because they are defensive so they pick on MGS4 and compare it to Crysis.

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#566 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="usule"]

Another lame review from gamespot... After Fear 2, comes Halo Wars review... I Guess all the other websites I checked are ALL bought by microsoft because it has a 8.4 from IGN, a solib B from 1 up a couple of 9/10 on paper magazines, 16/20 on jeuxvideo.com ( I assume a French website bough by microsoft as well).

I can trully say I will never check gamespot rating in order to buy a game... What's next gamespot??? are going to give dawn of 2 a 5.5???

usule

Damage control in the purest form. "Gamespot have no credibility! Other critics gave the game a better score, why didn't GS?! Why don't they think the same way as everyone else?!!! Gamespot write lame reviews....". Could you have made that anymore blatant? Are you really that upset that someone didn't tell you what you wanted to hear? The world dosn't rotate around you, ya know. Some people will not allways align with your own way of thought, and that's called a "matter of opinion".

[/QUOTE Yeah I guess you are right, I'm probably the only one in the word thinking like this, and the world rotates only around me... lol "damage control in the purest form" because I disagree??? good point "the world is flat" why don't they think the same way as everyone else??? I'm stretching it here :) Sorry for not agreeing with gamespot, or as you say: DAMAGE CONTROL, because in your own eyes the world rotates around gamespot...

This is System Wars, everything that goes on around here rotates around the activities of Gamespot. To actually go on and to question the authority of the website with no merit to do so is damage control. You wanted Gamespot to tell you it was good, it didn't matter what the review said or how they truly felt, you didn't care. All that mattered to you was that they told you what you wanted to hear, and when they didn't you had a little hissy fit proclaiming that Gamespot had no credibility. That is not an opinion, there is nothing to back up what you said, you havn't evaluated the review, you havn't even played the game, you are just taking a stab at something with no credibility to do so. How can you disagree with what Gamespot is saying without playing the game? You see why it is so obvious that it is damage control now?

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#567 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Why is MGS4 and Crysis being mentioned isn't this thread about Halo Wars?EPaul
Someone took my post, twisted it, and went off on that tangent. I merely mentioned this is the same site that in under the impression that MGS4 is technically superior to Crysis, therefore I told others to take what it says with a grain of salt -- apparently, MGS fans don't like listening to objectivity.
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#568 musicalmac  Moderator
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People, people...  Keep it about Halo Wars.
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#569 Hoobinator
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After you've all read through this, I implore you to go back into history, and reread through this.

Hmm.

I have issues when games score poorly because of what they don't have.

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#570 SMR-Venom
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Ouch man, too harsh. GS gave Tenchu IV a 5, this a 6.5, Fear 2 a 7. What are they up to? So the best console RTS is still Pikmin 2. I wonder if LKS will do good :(
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#571 usule
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[QUOTE="usule"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="usule"]

Another lame review from gamespot... After Fear 2, comes Halo Wars review... I Guess all the other websites I checked are ALL bought by microsoft because it has a 8.4 from IGN, a solib B from 1 up a couple of 9/10 on paper magazines, 16/20 on jeuxvideo.com ( I assume a French website bough by microsoft as well).

I can trully say I will never check gamespot rating in order to buy a game... What's next gamespot??? are going to give dawn of 2 a 5.5???

WasntAvailable

Damage control in the purest form. "Gamespot have no credibility! Other critics gave the game a better score, why didn't GS?! Why don't they think the same way as everyone else?!!! Gamespot write lame reviews....". Could you have made that anymore blatant? Are you really that upset that someone didn't tell you what you wanted to hear? The world dosn't rotate around you, ya know. Some people will not allways align with your own way of thought, and that's called a "matter of opinion".

[/QUOTE Yeah I guess you are right, I'm probably the only one in the word thinking like this, and the world rotates only around me... lol "damage control in the purest form" because I disagree??? good point "the world is flat" why don't they think the same way as everyone else??? I'm stretching it here :) Sorry for not agreeing with gamespot, or as you say: DAMAGE CONTROL, because in your own eyes the world rotates around gamespot...

This is System Wars, everything that goes on around here rotates around the activities of Gamespot. To actually go on and to question the authority of the website with no merit to do so is damage control. You wanted Gamespot to tell you it was good, it didn't matter what the review said or how they truly felt, you didn't care. All that mattered to you was that they told you what you wanted to hear, and when they didn't you had a little hissy fit proclaiming that Gamespot had no credibility. That is not an opinion, there is nothing to back up what you said, you havn't evaluated the review, you havn't even played the game, you are just taking a stab at something with no credibility to do so. How can you disagree with what Gamespot is saying without playing the game? You see why it is so obvious that it is damage control now?

Oh ok sorry, I see it makes a lot of sense, in system wars everything has to rotate around gamespot, and having played the demo ( and enjoyed it) and stating the average of all other websites opinions on this very same game is actually Damage Control, got it, thanks!
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#572 Hoobinator
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Somewhere Blackbond is smiling :Dblue_hazy_basic
A thread was never created to mourn the passing of DreamsVisions and BlackBond.
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#573 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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People, people...  Keep it about Halo Wars.musicalmac

Yeah, people, get back on topic! Here, I'll help.

Cue the horns!!

I've never played an RTS, but a flop is a flop.

Does anyone think that Ensemble put less effort on this project knowing it was their last? Or did HW get the Russian judge treatment?

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#574 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Somewhere Blackbond is smiling :DHoobinator
A thread was never created to mourn the passing of DreamsVisions and BlackBond.

What did I say about staying on topic??! :evil:
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#575 tOtalPWNaAe
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]People, people...  Keep it about Halo Wars.

that made me lol
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#576 FragTycoon
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People, people...  Keep it about Halo Wars.musicalmac
If I may?

"Gamespot... came... from .... behind!" *boom*

I think it was asked before, but hay, I'll try again.

Anyone who was planing on buying this game actually not going to buy it now?

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#577 ezikiell
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I was surprised at the low score, but I am not surprise that Halo fans would get defensive over it. Imagine the reaction if the game scored less than 6.0.
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#578 heretrix
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Indeed -- MGS4 isn't judged by PC standards, by PC standards it's hardly impressive, and is average at best. Crysis and Crysis Warhead, along with games like Assassin's Creed, and Stalker runs circles around MGS4. :|AAllxxjjnn
Ok name one Tactican Espionage action PC game released last year so we can compare it with MGS4

You can play Crysis as a "tactical espionage" game.

Pretty much. Aside from the first person perspective, Crysis and MGS 4 can be played in very similar ways.

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#579 musicalmac  Moderator
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Still at 82 on metacritic with a few extra reviews. GS review still the basement for this game. :?
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#580 Hoobinator
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"] What did I say about staying on topic??! :evil:

erm... E=MC2. OK I lied, I wasn't paying attention. Will this affect my overall grade?
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#581 Kahuna_1
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Still at 82 on metacritic with a few extra reviews. GS review still the basement for this game. :?musicalmac

Same deal with Ratchet and Clank. Everyone had 9s and 8s, GS had a 7.5 tied for last with an unknown reviewer.

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#582 xsubtownerx
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So basically, after reading and watching the review, if it's not a shooter gamespot won't like it. Doesn't anybody find it strange that they're the ones that gave this game it's lowest score? Don't you also find it strange that Age of Empires scored a 6.8 here also?
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Still at 82 on metacritic with a few extra reviews. GS review still the basement for this game. :?musicalmac
Isn't that interesting, wouldn't you say?
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#584 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="usule"]

Damage control in the purest form. "Gamespot have no credibility! Other critics gave the game a better score, why didn't GS?! Why don't they think the same way as everyone else?!!! Gamespot write lame reviews....". Could you have made that anymore blatant? Are you really that upset that someone didn't tell you what you wanted to hear? The world dosn't rotate around you, ya know. Some people will not allways align with your own way of thought, and that's called a "matter of opinion".

[/QUOTE Yeah I guess you are right, I'm probably the only one in the word thinking like this, and the world rotates only around me... lol "damage control in the purest form" because I disagree??? good point "the world is flat" why don't they think the same way as everyone else??? I'm stretching it here :) Sorry for not agreeing with gamespot, or as you say: DAMAGE CONTROL, because in your own eyes the world rotates around gamespot...usule

This is System Wars, everything that goes on around here rotates around the activities of Gamespot. To actually go on and to question the authority of the website with no merit to do so is damage control. You wanted Gamespot to tell you it was good, it didn't matter what the review said or how they truly felt, you didn't care. All that mattered to you was that they told you what you wanted to hear, and when they didn't you had a little hissy fit proclaiming that Gamespot had no credibility. That is not an opinion, there is nothing to back up what you said, you havn't evaluated the review, you havn't even played the game, you are just taking a stab at something with no credibility to do so. How can you disagree with what Gamespot is saying without playing the game? You see why it is so obvious that it is damage control now?

Oh ok sorry, I see it makes a lot of sense, in system wars everything has to rotate around gamespot, and having played the demo ( and enjoyed it) and stating the average of all other websites opinions on this very same game is actually Damage Control, got it, thanks!

It's not even that.

Lets see then:

Have you played the full product? No. Check.

Do you disagree with the review? Yes. Check.

Do you belive Gamespot has lost credibility because of a single review of a game you havn't played except for a demo? Yes. Check.

So basically when we add this all up, your post = damange control.

It's as simple as that.

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All anyone has to do is READ the review and know that it doesn't match up with the score it received, simple as that.
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Wow,definitely surprised at the low score
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#588 WasntAvailable
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So basically, after reading and watching the review, if it's not a shooter gamespot won't like it. Doesn't anybody find it strange that they're the ones that gave this game it's lowest score? Don't you also find it strange that Age of Empires scored a 6.8 here also?xsubtownerx

AoE 2 is AAA, and AoE 3 is AA. Nothing odd about it really, except that it was a bit of a strange score. Well that is odd, but it dosn't suggest anything other than Gamespot can be a bit random sometimes. Games like CoH and Sins of a Solar Empire have scored AAA aswell, so it's not a Gamespot + RTS thing here.

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#589 xsubtownerx
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It's not even that.

Lets see then:

Have you played the full product? No. Check.

Do you disagree with the review? Yes. Check.

Do you belive Gamespot has lost credibility because of a single review of a game you havn't played except for a demo? Yes. Check.

So basically when we add this all up, your post = damange control.

It's as simple as that.

WasntAvailable

Right. Expect for the fact GS gave the lowest score so far out of all the critics. I think there is reason for some damage control for those who have played the demo. I for one, after reading the IGN review this morning, think this GS reviewer is pretty weak.

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#590 DeadMan1290
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I liked the demo. I'm still getting it. But, that score hurts lol:P
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#591 JakeTD21
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Hmm. Doesn't really seem fitting but I was never gonna get this.
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#592 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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All anyone has to do is READ the review and know that it doesn't match up with the score it received, simple as that. hopesfall2own
I agree -- I'm still confused how Gamespot can praise Halo Wars story, yet doesn't give it an emblem telling it that, THAT is one of its strong points. The S ucks you In emblem also states that good game sucks you in, yet the score reflects only a fair game. Gamespot also still fails to see that this isn't your typical PC RTS, but rather shoots for simplicity (Like Halo did back in 2001) and is easy to pick and play and get ahold of -- like Halo how was back in 2001.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]People, people...  Keep it about Halo Wars.FragTycoon

If I may?

"Gamespot... came... from .... behind!" *boom*

I think it was asked before, but hay, I'll try again.

Anyone who was planing on buying this game actually not going to buy it now?

BWAHAHAHAH :lol: With E:TW around the corner and paintball season looming soon (yes I'm a grown up kid) I don't see any way I'll be buying this game any time soon. Ironically, however, after reading alot about the game in the last few hours I will probably be MORE likely to buy it (or at least rent) than I was before. Looks like it could be fun for a bit of fun some weekend. I'm intrigued to battle against the Covenant's array of big machines.
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#594 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]It's not even that.

Lets see then:

Have you played the full product? No. Check.

Do you disagree with the review? Yes. Check.

Do you belive Gamespot has lost credibility because of a single review of a game you havn't played except for a demo? Yes. Check.

So basically when we add this all up, your post = damange control.

It's as simple as that.

xsubtownerx

Right. Expect for the fact GS gave the lowest score so far out of all the critics. I think there is reason for some damage control for those who have played the demo. I for one, after reading the IGN review this morning, think this GS reviewer is pretty weak.

PS3 owners called out Aaron Thomas for his Ratchet review and 360 owners ripped them for it. The site didnt like the game, cant do anything about it. If you like the game, then buy it, who the hell cares about other people's opinions. GS gave socom a 6 right? IGN gave it a 4.5 and I play it online more than anyother game I own.

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#595 acsguitar
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Sites ranking this a 9 are ultimate fan boys. I can accept an 8 but a 9? Give me a break. Its an uber easy short boring looking uninnovative CONSOLE Rts. 7 seems like a decent score.


Gamespot has been rating games low lately almost to make up for their overrating games for so long

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#596 Animal-Mother
Member since 2003 • 27362 Posts
[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]It's not even that.

Lets see then:

Have you played the full product? No. Check.

Do you disagree with the review? Yes. Check.

Do you belive Gamespot has lost credibility because of a single review of a game you havn't played except for a demo? Yes. Check.

So basically when we add this all up, your post = damange control.

It's as simple as that.

Kahuna_1

Right. Expect for the fact GS gave the lowest score so far out of all the critics. I think there is reason for some damage control for those who have played the demo. I for one, after reading the IGN review this morning, think this GS reviewer is pretty weak.

PS3 owners called out Aaron Thomas for his Ratchet review and 360 owners ripped them for it. The site didnt like the game, cant do anything about it. If you like the game, then buy it, who the hell cares about other people's opinions. GS gave socom a 6 right? IGN gave it a 4.5 and I play it online more than anyother game I own.

| Ya I do too, If a game gets a low score, doesnt affect how much your gonna enjoy. I got socom as well and my only complaint is needing to be in a clan to rank
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#597 carlisledavid79
Member since 2006 • 10522 Posts
[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]It's not even that.

Lets see then:

Have you played the full product? No. Check.

Do you disagree with the review? Yes. Check.

Do you belive Gamespot has lost credibility because of a single review of a game you havn't played except for a demo? Yes. Check.

So basically when we add this all up, your post = damange control.

It's as simple as that.

xsubtownerx

Right. Expect for the fact GS gave the lowest score so far out of all the critics. I think there is reason for some damage control for those who have played the demo. I for one, after reading the IGN review this morning, think this GS reviewer is pretty weak.

I suppose it was ok when they gave R + C a lower score than most though. Am I right ?
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#599 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Sites ranking this a 9 are ultimate fan boys. I can accept an 8 but a 9? Give me a break. Its an uber easy short boring looking uninnovative CONSOLE Rts. 7 seems like a decent score.acsguitar
Is that post supposed to be sarcasm, or are you actually serious? :?
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#600 kholdstare61
Member since 2006 • 944 Posts
[QUOTE="Flamestos"]My first expression was :lol: because I thought it was a joke. I was seriously expecting AA for this game but A at the worst. This is why I don't depending on reviews. I enjoyed the demo and Halo Wars is still pre-ordered for me.Franko_3
So instead of relying to gaming journalist, you rely on the hype and publicity made by M$, it's not better... Demo are only here to show the best part of the game so you buy it. Think Mirror edge.

Well gaming journalism isn't exactly the best way to decide on which games to buy, most of my favorite games are usually AA or lower. Demos don't always show the best parts of a game, such as the COD4 demo or the Burnout Paradise demo. I've always brought games going from my gut instincts or demos and it has worked out pretty well so far.