It seems like they totally missed the point. They tried to make an RTS game for consoles and Gamespot are criticizing it for not being more like PC RTS games. Doesn't anyone else see this?
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It seems like they totally missed the point. They tried to make an RTS game for consoles and Gamespot are criticizing it for not being more like PC RTS games. Doesn't anyone else see this?
[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]Oh and by the way. Killzone PS2 6.9 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 :P :P :PFloppy_JimAnd don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :P
No idea why but this made me lol hard.
[QUOTE="musicalmac"]While I thank GS for giving it a score based on the genre (and compared to the PC)I've never understood that point of view. I mean would you want them to compare Moon on DS to Crysis and Half Life?Just for perspective, 82 @ metacritic.
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blue_hazy_basic
[QUOTE="spinecaton"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] and lemmings and cows don't constantly compare their games and mulitplats to the PC?!? :? (Look at the GTA scores and reaction for example)blue_hazy_basic
...maybe if Halo Wars was also on the PC you would have a valid claim...
What difference does that make? You are directly comparing halo wars to others in the genre, no? I'm not saying that I expect an RTS to be of the same standard on a console to a PC (If you look I said I was surprised GS scored so low). What I am saying is that you would get consolites saying they were if Halo Wars had scored highly.The difference is PC and consoles have different standards so unless the game is designed for both PC and consoles, you shouldn't compare the 2.
im starting to think GS cant review at all, First Fear 2 now this, i think ill wait for Giantbomb.yoyo462001just take the flop like a man and let cows enjoy this glorious moment!
[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]Oh and by the way. Killzone PS2 6.9 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 :P :P :PFloppy_JimAnd don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :P
Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.
Wow, the review seems to be fairly postive, not in the 6.5 range. I don't see why they looked at PC RTS. They did not look at PC Turn Based Stragy when they reviewed Civ Rev. Which compaired to the other civ games was very simple. But it works for the consoles. It is the same with RTS, they can't be like their big brother on the PC, it is just impossible,
But we only use Gamespot here, so Halo Wars is a major flop. But it sometimes seem they give afew games free passes on something then play hard ball on an other game.
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] How many endless threads have we had comparing x on a console to y on a PC?killerfist? dunno... PC has 90% of the times the upperhand in the shooter department. Unless the game is a bad port or poorly optimized. So it's kind of silly to make such comparisons. imo Completely agree! But next time in one of the endless "PC GAMING SUXXORS" or "PC gaming is dead" etc threads, all I have to do is point to Halo Wars and say this is how console games stacked up when graded on the PC scale. I am so tired of people who game purely on consoles not realising the gulf in gaming in a number of genres. Maybe I'm being I'm being a little mean spirited right now :P
And don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :P[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]Oh and by the way. Killzone PS2 6.9 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 :P :P :PWasntAvailable
Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.
A high profile flop is a high profile flop. It'll be about equal to this madness I think. I mean, this thread is filling up fast. And plus now if that "other game" flops then cows will just say, "IT SCORED HIGHER THAN HALO WARS" so it'll be a flush... a very sad, fanboyish flush.[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] How many endless threads have we had comparing x on a console to y on a PC?blue_hazy_basic? dunno... PC has 90% of the times the upperhand in the shooter department. Unless the game is a bad port or poorly optimized. So it's kind of silly to make such comparisons. imo Completely agree! But next time in one of the endless "PC GAMING SUXXORS" or "PC gaming is dead" etc threads, all I have to do is point to Halo Wars and say this is how console games stacked up when graded on the PC scale. I am so tired of people who game purely on consoles not realising the gulf in gaming in a number of genres. Maybe I'm being I'm being a little mean spirited right now :P I dont think so, if I had the pleasure of being a PC gamer I'd be writing very similar posts. I'm telling you Blue, someday... someday I will be gaming on a PC. :P
Did 360 fanboys hype it this "high"?n00bkidIt was AA range. Killzone 2 flopping would completely override it though.
And don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :P[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]Oh and by the way. Killzone PS2 6.9 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 :P :P :PWasntAvailable
Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.
"Halowned":roll: :lol:
Yeah, KZ2 flopping would certainly even things out. But if Star Ocean 4 flops and KZ2 meets the hype, this shall be "Cowspot". There will be Bovines coming out the wazoo.
[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] How many endless threads have we had comparing x on a console to y on a PC?blue_hazy_basic? dunno... PC has 90% of the times the upperhand in the shooter department. Unless the game is a bad port or poorly optimized. So it's kind of silly to make such comparisons. imo Completely agree! But next time in one of the endless "PC GAMING SUXXORS" or "PC gaming is dead" etc threads, all I have to do is point to Halo Wars and say this is how console games stacked up when graded on the PC scale. I am so tired of people who game purely on consoles not realising the gulf in gaming in a number of genres. Maybe I'm being I'm being a little mean spirited right now :P
Correction, this is how console RTS games stacked up when rated on the PC RTS scale. Whether you like it or not, games on the Xbox360/PS3 are already rated on the same scale as PC games. To say otherwise is just fanboysim.
[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] And don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :Pcarljohnson3456
Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.
A high profile flop is a high profile flop. It'll be about equal to this madness I think. I mean, this thread is filling up fast. And plus now if that "other game" flops then cows will just say, "IT SCORED HIGHER THAN HALO WARS" so it'll be a flush... a very sad, fanboyish flush.I don't think the cows would be saying that Killzone 2 would score higher than Halo Wars if it flops, they would probably go back to saying Gamespot is Lemspot and is getting paid off by MS. And probably cry saying we should use Gamerankings.
After you've all read through this, I implore you to go back into history, and reread through this.
Hmm.
I have issues when games score poorly because of what they don't have.
[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="vashkey"]Lol, this is pathetic. Everyone want a Halo flop so bad they choose to ignore all reviews but Gamespot's.angelkimne
GS is the only review that counts in SW:|, but nice damage control there.
People always say this but I can never find any rule that says we have to... In fact I believe there was an official (stickied) poll that declared we could use any review source we want a year or so ago.Also, anyone notice how in the video review there was a menu screenshot showing Blood Gulch as a playable 1v1 multiplayer map? It's at 3:59. That's sure to please some Halo fans.
Anyway, as I said before, I hope I like this game more than the reviewer did, because there's no way I'm not getting it.
I also remember that poll. Nobody else seems to, though. :|
[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] And don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :PFloppy_Jim
Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.
"Halowned":roll: :lol:
Yeah, KZ2 flopping would certainly even things out. But if Star Ocean 4 flops and KZ2 meets the hype, this shall be "Cowspot". There will be Bovines coming out the wazoo.
The cows will reclaim the land and begin grazing once more.But IDK stinks that a game with a decent looking premise had to flopCompletely agree! But next time in one of the endless "PC GAMING SUXXORS" or "PC gaming is dead" etc threads, all I have to do is point to Halo Wars and say this is how console games stacked up when graded on the PC scale. I am so tired of people who game purely on consoles not realising the gulf in gaming in a number of genres. Maybe I'm being I'm being a little mean spirited right now :P[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="killerfist"] ? dunno... PC has 90% of the times the upperhand in the shooter department. Unless the game is a bad port or poorly optimized. So it's kind of silly to make such comparisons. imoWasntAvailable
Correction, this is how console RTS games stacked up when rated on the PC RTS scale. Whether you like it or not, games on the Xbox360/PS3 are already rated on the same scale as PC games. To say otherwise is just fanboysim.
So why are people arguing that its unfair that this game (unlike others say like CIv Rev) was rated against PC games? :? Go read through the thread.Did 360 fanboys hype it this "high"?n00bkidI see you like socom, well Halo wars was hyped more or less the same, in other words its not ultimate title in the genre but it can be fun to play, I dont care about halo and never will but im sure a lot of people are going to love this game. Wait a couple of weeks and everyone will be like "ohhh its not that bad" "yeah its kinda fun
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.
Animal-Mother
"Halowned":roll: :lol:
Yeah, KZ2 flopping would certainly even things out. But if Star Ocean 4 flops and KZ2 meets the hype, this shall be "Cowspot". There will be Bovines coming out the wazoo.
As jenova said we will reclaim this land for the ancients! But IDK stinks that a game with a decent looking premise had to flopYeah, it is. I was disappointed at first, but then I simply joined in rubbing it in Lemmings faces :P I'm still getting it though, the demo's pretty fun.
[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] How many endless threads have we had comparing x on a console to y on a PC?blue_hazy_basic? dunno... PC has 90% of the times the upperhand in the shooter department. Unless the game is a bad port or poorly optimized. So it's kind of silly to make such comparisons. imo Completely agree! But next time in one of the endless "PC GAMING SUXXORS" or "PC gaming is dead" etc threads, all I have to do is point to Halo Wars and say this is how console games stacked up when graded on the PC scale. I am so tired of people who game purely on consoles not realising the gulf in gaming in a number of genres. Maybe I'm being I'm being a little mean spirited right now :P That's something I can agree with. I would spare my breath and not argue with fanboys though:P I think HW is aimed at a completely different crowd though. Casual-RTS-crowd-that-happen-to-be-Halo-fans-aswell maybe? lol idk.
[QUOTE="redbaron3"]lol i love this (PC higher Standards dont exist) after 6.5 Halo Wars its (he reviewed it with PCs higher standards) i cant help but lol :PEspada12
Yea everytime lems or consolities in general come saying there is no difference I'll just point em to the halo wars reviews. Note I said reviews.. not review, this includes IGN etc.
Don't include Wii owners under consolites. They get hated on just as much by PS3 and 360 fanboys as the PC owners.
So, Gamespot, NOW games should have variety? Make up your ****ing mind already! :evil:TheGrat1
Seriously, too much variety is an identity crisis. Not enough and it ain't good enough. Gamespot reviewers are like freaking goldilocks.
[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]As jenova said we will reclaim this land for the ancients! But IDK stinks that a game with a decent looking premise had to flop"Halowned":roll: :lol:
Yeah, KZ2 flopping would certainly even things out. But if Star Ocean 4 flops and KZ2 meets the hype, this shall be "Cowspot". There will be Bovines coming out the wazoo.
Floppy_Jim
Yeah, it is. I was disappointed at first, but then I simply joined in rubbing it in Lemmings faces :P I'm still getting it though, the demo's pretty fun.
Well I have starcraft and WC3, I think that their definitely good enough to hold me over till SC2. But man their in an uproar at N4G[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] And don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :Pcarljohnson3456
Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.
A high profile flop is a high profile flop. It'll be about equal to this madness I think. I mean, this thread is filling up fast. And plus now if that "other game" flops then cows will just say, "IT SCORED HIGHER THAN HALO WARS" so it'll be a flush... a very sad, fanboyish flush.Well people were already hating on Halo Wars before it was released, so this just confirms peoples suspicions. KZ2 however has keep haters mostly silent. It's not as if haters can say, "Oh well it's just a generic FPS", when they are the ones who are playing Halo 3, CoD 4 etc. on their own Xbox 360's. So if it flops it will be like a dam of built up hate bursting and flooding system wars in a very short period of time. That would be funny. The DC will be so futile it would be almost painful to read. Still, I hope KZ2 turns out well, regardless of what it scores, I just want it to flop here to see the chaos :P. It has enough good reviews everywhere else anyway.
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="killerfist"] ? dunno... PC has 90% of the times the upperhand in the shooter department. Unless the game is a bad port or poorly optimized. So it's kind of silly to make such comparisons. imocarljohnson3456Completely agree! But next time in one of the endless "PC GAMING SUXXORS" or "PC gaming is dead" etc threads, all I have to do is point to Halo Wars and say this is how console games stacked up when graded on the PC scale. I am so tired of people who game purely on consoles not realising the gulf in gaming in a number of genres. Maybe I'm being I'm being a little mean spirited right now :P I dont think so, if I had the pleasure of being a PC gamer I'd be writing very similar posts. I'm telling you Blue, someday... someday I will be gaming on a PC. :P You know PC gamers on here for a long time were pretty much content with not posting like I am right now, and I do feel a little bad for doing it. There wasa certain poster, whom I won't name for mod reasons (his initials are JH if that helps!) caused a huge about of aggravation with the hermit community.
10 pages already!?!?angelkimneYeah, it's a bigger deal than I thought it would be. I blame musicalmac:P
Oh and by the way. Killzone PS2 6.9 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 :P :P :Pcarlisledavid79
So in a way, Killzone is a Halo killer after all. :P
Here is what I see. Simplifying the PC RTS formula so it works on consoles doesn't make a good game. I've only played one RTS game done on consoles right and that was on the Sega Genesis a game called Herzog Zwei. It broke the mold of what a RTS should be and that's what developers need to do for consoles. Just simplifying the PC formula isn't the solution.It seems like they totally missed the point. They tried to make an RTS game for consoles and Gamespot are criticizing it for not being more like PC RTS games. Doesn't anyone else see this?
AdolescentDon
Hah I called this. I told people not to hype it. RTS on consoles are just not that good. Even though I was expecting atleast a 7.0 oh well wasn't going to buy it anyway.
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] As jenova said we will reclaim this land for the ancients! But IDK stinks that a game with a decent looking premise had to flopAnimal-Mother
Yeah, it is. I was disappointed at first, but then I simply joined in rubbing it in Lemmings faces :P I'm still getting it though, the demo's pretty fun.
Well I have starcraft and WC3, I think that their definitely good enough to hold me over till SC2. But man their in an uproar at N4G I know, that place makes System Wars look tame.[QUOTE="killerfist"]Proof that the "Halo" brand name isn't enough. glez13
Right now it's true, but at the end of the year when we see some sales numbers, i'm pretty sure this will be false.
I believe it is Stevo_the_gamer that likes to state that quantity does not dictate quality. :P
[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Well I have starcraft and WC3, I think that their definitely good enough to hold me over till SC2. But man their in an uproar at N4G I know, that place makes System Wars look tame. I knowYeah, it is. I was disappointed at first, but then I simply joined in rubbing it in Lemmings faces :P I'm still getting it though, the demo's pretty fun.
Floppy_Jim
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