Official Halo Wars Thread - Keep It Here!

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#451 AdolescentDon
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It seems like they totally missed the point. They tried to make an RTS game for consoles and Gamespot are criticizing it for not being more like PC RTS games. Doesn't anyone else see this?

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#452 walter429
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It will still sell 5 million copies in the first month. I saw a bunch of hype at at least AA... not to mention the "im thinking 8.5-9.5, the demo was awesome". What's with this "hyped A" stuff?
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Owwwwwwwww SNAP!!! Hype was building around this game, the lemmings were getting excited, RTS done right on a console and BAM!!!, smell the cheese, fist in face 6.5 goodnight.Hoobinator
I lol'd irl. Even funnier if you imagine Howard Cossell saying it.
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#454 Espada12
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]Oh and by the way. Killzone PS2 6.9 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 :P :P :PFloppy_Jim
And don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :P

No idea why but this made me lol hard.

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#455 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]

Just for perspective, 82 @ metacritic.

:?

blue_hazy_basic
While I thank GS for giving it a score based on the genre (and compared to the PC)

I've never understood that point of view. I mean would you want them to compare Moon on DS to Crysis and Half Life?
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] and lemmings and cows don't constantly compare their games and mulitplats to the PC?!? :? (Look at the GTA scores and reaction for example)blue_hazy_basic

...maybe if Halo Wars was also on the PC you would have a valid claim...

What difference does that make? You are directly comparing halo wars to others in the genre, no? I'm not saying that I expect an RTS to be of the same standard on a console to a PC (If you look I said I was surprised GS scored so low). What I am saying is that you would get consolites saying they were if Halo Wars had scored highly.

The difference is PC and consoles have different standards so unless the game is designed for both PC and consoles, you shouldn't compare the 2.

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#457 deactivated-652663614c5e5
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im starting to think GS cant review at all, First Fear 2 now this, i think ill wait for Giantbomb.yoyo462001
just take the flop like a man and let cows enjoy this glorious moment!
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#458 kozzy1234
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The demo was terrible, ill stick to the real RTS games on (Total War Rome, Company Of Heroes, Age of empires3 and Starcraft2), RTS games are just not meant for consoles!
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#460 carljohnson3456
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With this news... I expect another high profile console exclusive to "flop" (even if it's by a 0.5 point) here on GS... so cows need to be cautious with their "victory" here. Not that I dont think that other "high profile exclusive" to be excellent, I can just imagine an 8.5 after seeing this 6.5. GS seems hard to please these days.
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#461 n00bkid
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Did 360 fanboys hype it this "high"?
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#462 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]With this news... I expect another high profile console exclusive to "flop" (even if it's by a 0.5 point) here on GS... so cows need to be cautious with their "victory" here. Not that I dont think that other "high profile exclusive" to be excellent, I can just imagine an 8.5 after seeing this 6.5. GS seems hard to please these days.

Ohh I agree 100000000% if its only by .5 too it makes it even worse
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#463 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]Oh and by the way. Killzone PS2 6.9 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 :P :P :PFloppy_Jim
And don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :P

Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.

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#464 Chaos_HL21
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Wow, the review seems to be fairly postive, not in the 6.5 range. I don't see why they looked at PC RTS. They did not look at PC Turn Based Stragy when they reviewed Civ Rev. Which compaired to the other civ games was very simple. But it works for the consoles. It is the same with RTS, they can't be like their big brother on the PC, it is just impossible,

But we only use Gamespot here, so Halo Wars is a major flop. But it sometimes seem they give afew games free passes on something then play hard ball on an other game.

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#465 killerfist
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Did 360 fanboys hype it this "high"?n00bkid
I think it was A or AA. not sure.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] How many endless threads have we had comparing x on a console to y on a PC?killerfist
? dunno... PC has 90% of the times the upperhand in the shooter department. Unless the game is a bad port or poorly optimized. So it's kind of silly to make such comparisons. imo

Completely agree! But next time in one of the endless "PC GAMING SUXXORS" or "PC gaming is dead" etc threads, all I have to do is point to Halo Wars and say this is how console games stacked up when graded on the PC scale. I am so tired of people who game purely on consoles not realising the gulf in gaming in a number of genres. Maybe I'm being I'm being a little mean spirited right now :P
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#467 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]Oh and by the way. Killzone PS2 6.9 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 :P :P :PWasntAvailable

And don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :P

Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.

A high profile flop is a high profile flop. It'll be about equal to this madness I think. I mean, this thread is filling up fast. And plus now if that "other game" flops then cows will just say, "IT SCORED HIGHER THAN HALO WARS" so it'll be a flush... a very sad, fanboyish flush.
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#468 PannicAtack
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Haven't been on System Wars for a long time. But I recall a hardcore lemming hyping this up alot...
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#469 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] How many endless threads have we had comparing x on a console to y on a PC?blue_hazy_basic
? dunno... PC has 90% of the times the upperhand in the shooter department. Unless the game is a bad port or poorly optimized. So it's kind of silly to make such comparisons. imo

Completely agree! But next time in one of the endless "PC GAMING SUXXORS" or "PC gaming is dead" etc threads, all I have to do is point to Halo Wars and say this is how console games stacked up when graded on the PC scale. I am so tired of people who game purely on consoles not realising the gulf in gaming in a number of genres. Maybe I'm being I'm being a little mean spirited right now :P

I dont think so, if I had the pleasure of being a PC gamer I'd be writing very similar posts. I'm telling you Blue, someday... someday I will be gaming on a PC. :P
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#470 Lionheart08
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Did 360 fanboys hype it this "high"?n00bkid
It was AA range. Killzone 2 flopping would completely override it though.
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#471 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]Oh and by the way. Killzone PS2 6.9 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 :P :P :PWasntAvailable

And don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :P

Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.

"Halowned":roll: :lol:

Yeah, KZ2 flopping would certainly even things out. But if Star Ocean 4 flops and KZ2 meets the hype, this shall be "Cowspot". There will be Bovines coming out the wazoo.

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#472 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] How many endless threads have we had comparing x on a console to y on a PC?blue_hazy_basic
? dunno... PC has 90% of the times the upperhand in the shooter department. Unless the game is a bad port or poorly optimized. So it's kind of silly to make such comparisons. imo

Completely agree! But next time in one of the endless "PC GAMING SUXXORS" or "PC gaming is dead" etc threads, all I have to do is point to Halo Wars and say this is how console games stacked up when graded on the PC scale. I am so tired of people who game purely on consoles not realising the gulf in gaming in a number of genres. Maybe I'm being I'm being a little mean spirited right now :P

Correction, this is how console RTS games stacked up when rated on the PC RTS scale. Whether you like it or not, games on the Xbox360/PS3 are already rated on the same scale as PC games. To say otherwise is just fanboysim.

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#473 Killer2401
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Is suppose my only question is: How did Endwar score higher?
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#474 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] And don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :Pcarljohnson3456

Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.

A high profile flop is a high profile flop. It'll be about equal to this madness I think. I mean, this thread is filling up fast. And plus now if that "other game" flops then cows will just say, "IT SCORED HIGHER THAN HALO WARS" so it'll be a flush... a very sad, fanboyish flush.

I don't think the cows would be saying that Killzone 2 would score higher than Halo Wars if it flops, they would probably go back to saying Gamespot is Lemspot and is getting paid off by MS. And probably cry saying we should use Gamerankings.

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#475 musicalmac  Moderator
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After you've all read through this, I implore you to go back into history, and reread through this.

Hmm.

I have issues when games score poorly because of what they don't have.

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#476 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"]Lol, this is pathetic. Everyone want a Halo flop so bad they choose to ignore all reviews but Gamespot's.angelkimne

GS is the only review that counts in SW:|, but nice damage control there.

People always say this but I can never find any rule that says we have to... In fact I believe there was an official (stickied) poll that declared we could use any review source we want a year or so ago.

Also, anyone notice how in the video review there was a menu screenshot showing Blood Gulch as a playable 1v1 multiplayer map? It's at 3:59. That's sure to please some Halo fans.

Anyway, as I said before, I hope I like this game more than the reviewer did, because there's no way I'm not getting it.

I also remember that poll. Nobody else seems to, though. :|

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#477 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] And don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :PFloppy_Jim

Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.

"Halowned":roll: :lol:

Yeah, KZ2 flopping would certainly even things out. But if Star Ocean 4 flops and KZ2 meets the hype, this shall be "Cowspot". There will be Bovines coming out the wazoo.

The cows will reclaim the land and begin grazing once more.But IDK stinks that a game with a decent looking premise had to flop
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#478 NeoGen85
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Man, people are flipping out! Now the PS3 fans have something to talk about. Hopefully Star Ocean 4 does better. Hopefully... :P
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So, Gamespot, NOW games should have variety? Make up your ****ing mind already! :evil:
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="killerfist"] ? dunno... PC has 90% of the times the upperhand in the shooter department. Unless the game is a bad port or poorly optimized. So it's kind of silly to make such comparisons. imoWasntAvailable

Completely agree! But next time in one of the endless "PC GAMING SUXXORS" or "PC gaming is dead" etc threads, all I have to do is point to Halo Wars and say this is how console games stacked up when graded on the PC scale. I am so tired of people who game purely on consoles not realising the gulf in gaming in a number of genres. Maybe I'm being I'm being a little mean spirited right now :P

Correction, this is how console RTS games stacked up when rated on the PC RTS scale. Whether you like it or not, games on the Xbox360/PS3 are already rated on the same scale as PC games. To say otherwise is just fanboysim.

So why are people arguing that its unfair that this game (unlike others say like CIv Rev) was rated against PC games? :? Go read through the thread.
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#481 AgentA-Mi6
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Did 360 fanboys hype it this "high"?n00bkid
I see you like socom, well Halo wars was hyped more or less the same, in other words its not ultimate title in the genre but it can be fun to play, I dont care about halo and never will but im sure a lot of people are going to love this game. Wait a couple of weeks and everyone will be like "ohhh its not that bad" "yeah its kinda fun
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.

Animal-Mother

"Halowned":roll: :lol:

Yeah, KZ2 flopping would certainly even things out. But if Star Ocean 4 flops and KZ2 meets the hype, this shall be "Cowspot". There will be Bovines coming out the wazoo.

As jenova said we will reclaim this land for the ancients! But IDK stinks that a game with a decent looking premise had to flop

Yeah, it is. I was disappointed at first, but then I simply joined in rubbing it in Lemmings faces :P I'm still getting it though, the demo's pretty fun.

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Gotta love the flopgloating.

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#484 killerfist
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] How many endless threads have we had comparing x on a console to y on a PC?blue_hazy_basic
? dunno... PC has 90% of the times the upperhand in the shooter department. Unless the game is a bad port or poorly optimized. So it's kind of silly to make such comparisons. imo

Completely agree! But next time in one of the endless "PC GAMING SUXXORS" or "PC gaming is dead" etc threads, all I have to do is point to Halo Wars and say this is how console games stacked up when graded on the PC scale. I am so tired of people who game purely on consoles not realising the gulf in gaming in a number of genres. Maybe I'm being I'm being a little mean spirited right now :P

That's something I can agree with. I would spare my breath and not argue with fanboys though:P I think HW is aimed at a completely different crowd though. Casual-RTS-crowd-that-happen-to-be-Halo-fans-aswell maybe? lol idk.
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[QUOTE="redbaron3"]lol i love this (PC higher Standards dont exist) after 6.5 Halo Wars its (he reviewed it with PCs higher standards) i cant help but lol :PEspada12

Yea everytime lems or consolities in general come saying there is no difference I'll just point em to the halo wars reviews. Note I said reviews.. not review, this includes IGN etc.

Don't include Wii owners under consolites. They get hated on just as much by PS3 and 360 fanboys as the PC owners.

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#486 Lionheart08
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So, Gamespot, NOW games should have variety? Make up your ****ing mind already! :evil:TheGrat1

Seriously, too much variety is an identity crisis. Not enough and it ain't good enough. Gamespot reviewers are like freaking goldilocks.

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#487 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

"Halowned":roll: :lol:

Yeah, KZ2 flopping would certainly even things out. But if Star Ocean 4 flops and KZ2 meets the hype, this shall be "Cowspot". There will be Bovines coming out the wazoo.

Floppy_Jim

As jenova said we will reclaim this land for the ancients! But IDK stinks that a game with a decent looking premise had to flop

Yeah, it is. I was disappointed at first, but then I simply joined in rubbing it in Lemmings faces :P I'm still getting it though, the demo's pretty fun.

Well I have starcraft and WC3, I think that their definitely good enough to hold me over till SC2. But man their in an uproar at N4G
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10 pages already!?!?
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] And don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :Pcarljohnson3456

Either that or KZ2 is about to be Halowned, har har har *slaps self*. I deserved that. It's still a possiblity though. Anything under a 9 is going to be considerd a flop here pretty much. That will be much more hectic than even this current fiasco.

A high profile flop is a high profile flop. It'll be about equal to this madness I think. I mean, this thread is filling up fast. And plus now if that "other game" flops then cows will just say, "IT SCORED HIGHER THAN HALO WARS" so it'll be a flush... a very sad, fanboyish flush.

Well people were already hating on Halo Wars before it was released, so this just confirms peoples suspicions. KZ2 however has keep haters mostly silent. It's not as if haters can say, "Oh well it's just a generic FPS", when they are the ones who are playing Halo 3, CoD 4 etc. on their own Xbox 360's. So if it flops it will be like a dam of built up hate bursting and flooding system wars in a very short period of time. That would be funny. The DC will be so futile it would be almost painful to read. Still, I hope KZ2 turns out well, regardless of what it scores, I just want it to flop here to see the chaos :P. It has enough good reviews everywhere else anyway.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="killerfist"] ? dunno... PC has 90% of the times the upperhand in the shooter department. Unless the game is a bad port or poorly optimized. So it's kind of silly to make such comparisons. imocarljohnson3456
Completely agree! But next time in one of the endless "PC GAMING SUXXORS" or "PC gaming is dead" etc threads, all I have to do is point to Halo Wars and say this is how console games stacked up when graded on the PC scale. I am so tired of people who game purely on consoles not realising the gulf in gaming in a number of genres. Maybe I'm being I'm being a little mean spirited right now :P

I dont think so, if I had the pleasure of being a PC gamer I'd be writing very similar posts. I'm telling you Blue, someday... someday I will be gaming on a PC. :P

You know PC gamers on here for a long time were pretty much content with not posting like I am right now, and I do feel a little bad for doing it. There wasa certain poster, whom I won't name for mod reasons (his initials are JH if that helps!) caused a huge about of aggravation with the hermit community.
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10 pages already!?!?angelkimne
Yeah, it's a bigger deal than I thought it would be. I blame musicalmac:P
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#492 carlisledavid79
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Its tyme for an epic gif post

Halo Wars 6.5

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I think it sums up the Lemmings reaction.

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#493 Hexagon_777
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Oh and by the way. Killzone PS2 6.9 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 :P :P :Pcarlisledavid79

So in a way, Killzone is a Halo killer after all. :P

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#494 tmatte
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Holy crap.

That is all.

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#495 EmperorSupreme
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It seems like they totally missed the point. They tried to make an RTS game for consoles and Gamespot are criticizing it for not being more like PC RTS games. Doesn't anyone else see this?

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Here is what I see. Simplifying the PC RTS formula so it works on consoles doesn't make a good game. I've only played one RTS game done on consoles right and that was on the Sega Genesis a game called Herzog Zwei. It broke the mold of what a RTS should be and that's what developers need to do for consoles. Just simplifying the PC formula isn't the solution.
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#496 Hockey_Slayer
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Hah I called this. I told people not to hype it. RTS on consoles are just not that good. Even though I was expecting atleast a 7.0 oh well wasn't going to buy it anyway.

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#497 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] As jenova said we will reclaim this land for the ancients! But IDK stinks that a game with a decent looking premise had to flopAnimal-Mother

Yeah, it is. I was disappointed at first, but then I simply joined in rubbing it in Lemmings faces :P I'm still getting it though, the demo's pretty fun.

Well I have starcraft and WC3, I think that their definitely good enough to hold me over till SC2. But man their in an uproar at N4G

I know, that place makes System Wars look tame.
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#498 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="killerfist"]Proof that the "Halo" brand name isn't enough. glez13

Right now it's true, but at the end of the year when we see some sales numbers, i'm pretty sure this will be false.

I believe it is Stevo_the_gamer that likes to state that quantity does not dictate quality. :P

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#499 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

Yeah, it is. I was disappointed at first, but then I simply joined in rubbing it in Lemmings faces :P I'm still getting it though, the demo's pretty fun.

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Well I have starcraft and WC3, I think that their definitely good enough to hold me over till SC2. But man their in an uproar at N4G

I know, that place makes System Wars look tame.

I know
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#500 killerfist
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]

Its tyme for an epic gif post

Halo Wars 6.5

epic gif

I think it sums up the Lemmings reaction.

This is more a reaction from the cows:P