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#401 shadow_hosi
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Lem reaction, while cows cackle with glee behind them.

And it must be done:

(Cue the Halo Theme)

FlooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOp! FlooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOp!

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lol so true
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#402 Nike_Air
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6.5 is an unfortunate score. But I am still going to be using gamerankings at the end of the year as well , so all is not lost lemmings. It's just one opinion of many. I would however advise you to think about what it is you are actually buying. Nobody is going to take away your "halo" street cred or you won't be belittled if you don't follow the crowd. Do what you want to do , play what you want to play.

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#403 M337ING
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[QUOTE="Arsuz"]

I'm very surprised by this score, and I don't understand the people that say they expected this. We're not talking about just some developer, we're talking about Ensemble studios, god rest their soul. I was expecting this game to get at least an 8. Haven't seen any movies or anything, just basing it off on developer pedigree, an 8 seems like a justified score. It's a shame that Ensemble can't go out with a bang.

PS: This is SW so: :lol: @ X360 fans hyping this as a good rts :lol:

Puckhog04

Still have their great PC RTS title. :) Age of Empires series.

But, yea, it's a shame they couldn't go out with a truly epic game like the Age of Empires games were to alot of us gamers. I really can't say i'm surprised at the score though. I hated the demo. I think it's ironic. FEAR2 demo got literally destroyed here at the forums when it came out and scored an 8.5? (don't remember the number specifically) Then the Halo Wars demo comes out and gets nothing but praise mostly and it flops as bad as this. I mean, there were lemmings comparing this to Empire at War...honestly...

FEAR 2 flopped. It got a 7.
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#404 musicalmac  Moderator
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Just for perspective, 82 @ metacritic.

:?

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#405 Mr_Apple_Soup
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[QUOTE="danish-death"] If Killzone 2 score 9.0+, I wont be near SW in a month lol. Cows will be all over the place.glez13

But if it scores 8.5- this will become FLOPZONE and Lemmings will be all over the place.:o

i've already got my damage control ready: "Meh, RE5 looks better anyway"

good, or should i make it a sony exclusive like inFamous? :D

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#406 shadow_hosi
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i'd rent it at best, just to beat the story. thats what i did with fear 2, worked out alright
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#407 di_sgt_barber
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a lot of you people are dellusonal. when you hype a game and it gets sub-hype reviews, the media "must be biased." when it gets good scores, you rub it in people's faces like it's quality is carved into stone by God. doesn't matter what console you own. you support it relentlessly. forrest gump's momma was the same way.
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#408 web966
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Wasnt expecting that
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#409 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]

Just for perspective, 82 @ metacritic.

:?

While I thank GS for giving it a score based on the genre (and compared to the PC) it does surprise me the score ... but at least it didn't get a 9.0 and we have to put up with people who have never played a PC RTS insisting its better than game X because it scored higher.
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#410 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"][QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] That doesn't change the point that they were highly praised RTS games with only two factions :| Fine, want a more recent one? Pick a Command and Conquer game that has two factions. There's been some recently, like Red Alert 2.Skittles_McGee
Red Alert 2 2000..... that's 9 years ago

Nitpick much?

Who's the one nitpicking here? Standards and expectations become greater as time passes by. If you have to go back 10 to 15 years or so to find comparable games then that really doesn't speak for your argument.

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#411 glez13
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Just for perspective, 82 @ metacritic.

:?

musicalmac

That's exactly what I have been repeating over and over but no one seems to care.:?

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#412 lowe0
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Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark.

That said, I'm still really looking forward to this. I'm not a hardcore RTS fan, so a casualized RTS sounds great to me. Of course, the other game I'm looking forward to is Killzone 2 - figure that one out.

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#413 killerfist
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]

Just for perspective, 82 @ metacritic.

:?

Yeah kinda strange how GS underscored it. Not to mention that one of their reasons is that it's too simple? I thought it was meant to be simple.
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#414 FragTycoon
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Halo Fanboy:

"Please God, let Killzone 2 flop on Gamespot."

You have to admit with this review... one way or another the KZ2 review will be epic in sw.

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#415 carljohnson3456
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Wooooooooow. I was expecting to see a 9.0. A 6.5 seems unbelievable. The Halo name and anything less than 9.0 seems insane.
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#416 marklarmer
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]

Just for perspective, 82 @ metacritic.

:?

Anyone else in favour of a mandatory breathalyser test before GS reviewers write their reviews?
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#417 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]

Just for perspective, 82 @ metacritic.

:?

blue_hazy_basic

While I thank GS for giving it a score based on the genre (and compared to the PC) it does surprise me the score ... but at least it didn't get a 9.0 and we have to put up with people who have never played a PC RTS insisting its better than game X because it scored higher.

So you should compare games to other platforms now? So you are saying the GS should compare PSP action games to say PS3 action games because they are the same genre?

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#418 glez13
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]

Just for perspective, 82 @ metacritic.

:?

blue_hazy_basic

While I thank GS for giving it a score based on the genre (and compared to the PC) it does surprise me the score ... but at least it didn't get a 9.0 and we have to put up with people who have never played a PC RTS insisting its better than game X because it scored higher.

You are right, at least we wont have noob and professional fanboy lemmings saying crazy stuff like that.

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#419 Puckhog04
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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Arsuz"]

I'm very surprised by this score, and I don't understand the people that say they expected this. We're not talking about just some developer, we're talking about Ensemble studios, god rest their soul. I was expecting this game to get at least an 8. Haven't seen any movies or anything, just basing it off on developer pedigree, an 8 seems like a justified score. It's a shame that Ensemble can't go out with a bang.

PS: This is SW so: :lol: @ X360 fans hyping this as a good rts :lol:

M337ING

Still have their great PC RTS title. :) Age of Empires series.

But, yea, it's a shame they couldn't go out with a truly epic game like the Age of Empires games were to alot of us gamers. I really can't say i'm surprised at the score though. I hated the demo. I think it's ironic. FEAR2 demo got literally destroyed here at the forums when it came out and scored an 8.5? (don't remember the number specifically) Then the Halo Wars demo comes out and gets nothing but praise mostly and it flops as bad as this. I mean, there were lemmings comparing this to Empire Total War...honestly...

FEAR 2 flopped. It got a 7.

Yea i just realized that, got the IGN review confused with Gamespot. Etiher way, FEAR2 was demolished when it came to the demo and Halo Wars was praised. Still somewhat ironic considering the scores. I still think it's rather funny that HW was being compared to Empire Total War. But, yea, got the reviews confused.

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#420 Floppy_Jim
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I can't believe a Killzone game is going to outscore a Halo game. If anyone had said that 4 years ago, they would be laughed at. This is assuming Kilzone 2 scores more than 6.5, of course.
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#421 Espada12
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Did 1up just give thier review? I don't remember having to scroll so much to reach the bottom of metacritic.
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#422 killerfist
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]

Just for perspective, 82 @ metacritic.

:?

While I thank GS for giving it a score based on the genre (and compared to the PC) it does surprise me the score ... but at least it didn't get a 9.0 and we have to put up with people who have never played a PC RTS insisting its better than game X because it scored higher.

Well shooters aren't compared to their PC counterparts (or history) so why should RTS'?
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#423 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]

Just for perspective, 82 @ metacritic.

:?

While I thank GS for giving it a score based on the genre (and compared to the PC) it does surprise me the score ... but at least it didn't get a 9.0 and we have to put up with people who have never played a PC RTS insisting its better than game X because it scored higher.

So you should compare games to other platforms now? So you are saying the GS should compare PSP action games to say PS3 action games because they are the same genre?

and lemmings and cows don't constantly compare their games and mulitplats to the PC?!? :? (Look at the GTA scores and reaction for example)
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#424 FragTycoon
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]

Just for perspective, 82 @ metacritic.

:?

marklarmer

Anyone else in favour of a mandatory breathalyser test before GS reviewers write their reviews?

No more or less then the 7 sites that gave it a 9+ score.

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#425 KalEl370
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Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark.

That said, I'm still really looking forward to this. I'm not a hardcore RTS fan, so a casualized RTS sounds great to me. Of course, the other game I'm looking forward to is Killzone 2 - figure that one out.

lowe0

That makes two of us. I enjoyed the demo on both games and will still get both regardless of the score. I've enjoyed flops before on all consoles, so sue me.

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#426 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]

Just for perspective, 82 @ metacritic.

:?

While I thank GS for giving it a score based on the genre (and compared to the PC) it does surprise me the score ... but at least it didn't get a 9.0 and we have to put up with people who have never played a PC RTS insisting its better than game X because it scored higher.

Well shooters aren't compared to their PC counterparts (or history) so why should RTS'?

How many endless threads have we had comparing x on a console to y on a PC?
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#427 urdead18
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Lmao. That reduces 360's 2009 lineup to almost nothing.
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#428 glez13
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I can't believe a Killzone game is going to outscore a Halo game. If anyone had said that 4 years ago, they would be laughed at. This is assuming Kilzone 2 scores more than 6.5, of course.Floppy_Jim

No Floppy_Jim you know better than anyone that

9.0+ = KILLZOWNED

8.5- = FLOPZONE

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#429 CuDDKiDD
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It was written by someone for GS UK. Will someone else review for GS US like IGN does?
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#430 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="danish-death"] If Killzone 2 score 9.0+, I wont be near SW in a month lol. Cows will be all over the place.Mr_Apple_Soup

But if it scores 8.5- this will become FLOPZONE and Lemmings will be all over the place.:o

i've already got my damage control ready: "Meh, RE5 looks better anyway"

good, or should i make it a sony exclusive like inFamous? :D

If inFamous flops, and there's a chance it will, you end up with a serious backfire. RE5 is also multiplat, so it's not much use to fall back on that when pretty much anyone can play it. Best thing to do is claim bias/lack of integrity/etc. now, that way you can qoute yourself later when people question you.

So here goes: I can't belive this review! They are below the metacetric score by like 2 points! Everyone else is claiming this is a good/great game except Gamespot. Do Gamespot consider themselved to have higher standards? Then why did AC get a 9?! Can't answer that? Thought so! This just goes to show how far GS has fallen over the past few years. They have no integrity left at all!

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#431 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] While I thank GS for giving it a score based on the genre (and compared to the PC) it does surprise me the score ... but at least it didn't get a 9.0 and we have to put up with people who have never played a PC RTS insisting its better than game X because it scored higher.blue_hazy_basic

So you should compare games to other platforms now? So you are saying the GS should compare PSP action games to say PS3 action games because they are the same genre?

and lemmings and cows don't constantly compare their games and mulitplats to the PC?!? :? (Look at the GTA scores and reaction for example)

...maybe if Halo Wars was also on the PC you would have a valid claim...

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#432 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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It was written by someone for GS UK. Will someone else review for GS US like IGN does?CuDDKiDD
Not unless GS have started a new thing without telling anyone.
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#433 Tekkenloving
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I am glad gs did the right thing and didn't just overscored the game because it an rts with working controls on a console that bars the halo name.
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#434 yoyo462001
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im starting to think GS cant review at all, First Fear 2 now this, i think ill wait for Giantbomb.
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#435 Animal-Mother
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Look at the damage control at N4G

Fontaine - 1 hour ago

PMTrackIgnore 17 - Gamespot is going to give Killzone 2 a review under 8. You know why? Because Sony, and all other companies for that matter only allow reviewers to publish reviews for their games before they come out if the score is good.

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#436 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="CannedWorms"]LAWL, the GameSpot review was submitted to N4G, the users are going crazy :lol:.blue_hazy_basic
Some of my favourite quotes from N4G: "1.1 - Wow, looks like Gamespot has been trying to be objective. Or they are MAD that MS stopped sending them money because of recession. Sony couldn't have send them the money. They didn't even Send them a copy of Killzone 2. " "17.3 - NO ONE CARES ABOUT GAMESPOT OR EDGE MAGAZINE. Gametrailers, IGN (U.S., AU, and UK), 1UP, and Cheat CC, are the only real source's for games news, info, and reviews. They all scored K2 VERY well. (9+ scores) Stay away from Gamespot, G4/X-play, Edge, and Game Informer....because they are biased on ALL games. " Against ALL games??? :?

I lol'd like mad at the first one :D
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#437 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]

where does it say that in the ToU?Saber-Lily

Not the ToU, but the official System Wars Rules:

There is currently some disagreement on a game being considered a "true flop", and growing debate over what review scores "count" for that flop. The official policies of System Wars currently dictate that only GameSpot scores count, however other sites are often used to attempt to predict GameSpot's review scores.

Taken from: System Wars Rules: READ BEFORE POSTING (UPDATED 1/23/09)

It's a sticky. On the first page.

How come I can't find said text in your link? :?

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#438 Hoobinator
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Owwwwwwwww SNAP!!! Hype was building around this game, the lemmings were getting excited, RTS done right on a console and BAM!!!, smell the cheese, fist in face 6.5 goodnight.
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#439 spinecaton
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It was written by someone for GS UK. Will someone else review for GS US like IGN does?CuDDKiDD

No, unlike IGN, GS fires majority of their reviewers and that is why some reviews take forever to come out.

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#440 TheGrat1
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I just realized something that makes me angry: NOW is the time when Gamespot realizes that a lack of variety is a BAD thing?! :evil:
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#441 carlisledavid79
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Oh and by the way. Killzone PS2 6.9 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 :P :P :P
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#442 sasapac
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6.5? i didn't expect that. i thought that it would get at least 7.5

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#443 fenwickhotmail
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Meh, 6.5, haven't even bothered d/l the demo
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="spinecaton"]

So you should compare games to other platforms now? So you are saying the GS should compare PSP action games to say PS3 action games because they are the same genre?

and lemmings and cows don't constantly compare their games and mulitplats to the PC?!? :? (Look at the GTA scores and reaction for example)

...maybe if Halo Wars was also on the PC you would have a valid claim...

What difference does that make? You are directly comparing halo wars to others in the genre, no? I'm not saying that I expect an RTS to be of the same standard on a console to a PC (If you look I said I was surprised GS scored so low). What I am saying is that you would get consolites saying they were if Halo Wars had scored highly.
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#445 shadow_hosi
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so, its been a while sense this has happened sooooo....PHOTODOCUMENTARY!!!

lemmings:

cows:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/rrproductions/neverest.jpg

and lets not forget us hermits

sheep, well.....

i think this about sums up the atmosphere of system wars for the next few days

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#446 tek91
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It has been major depressing for xbox 360 first ochanbara flops and now their long awaited Halo Wars flops big time.

even the wii is scoring better games

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#447 killerfist
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How many endless threads have we had comparing x on a console to y on a PC?blue_hazy_basic
? dunno... PC has 90% of the times the upperhand in the shooter department. Unless the game is a bad port or poorly optimized. So it's kind of silly to make such comparisons. imo
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#448 kansasdude2009
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I find it ridiculous that Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle Earth 2 for the 360 can get an 8.3 and Halo Wars get a 6.5. Oh well... another Q1 disappointment.
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#449 WasntAvailable
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It was written by someone for GS UK. Will someone else review for GS US like IGN does?CuDDKiDD

No. They share the staff. Having 3 diffrent critics reviewing the same game is an unnesescary waste of resources, I don't understand why IGN do. A second opinion might be requested on some sites, but 3 diffrent reviews? I don't understand that. The GeoW 2 one is a UK review for example.

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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]Oh and by the way. Killzone PS2 6.9 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 :P :P :P

And don't forget Killzone: Liberation 8.3 >>> Halo Wars 6.5 Wow, Halo Wars is about to get Killzowned 3 times in a row :P