Official January 2008 NPD Results

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#101 laus_basic
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Wii is obviously supply constrained, it's been that way since launch, don't know why all of a sudden because the PS3 is close suddently it's not. I guess cows need something to sleep better at night!
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#102 TDLlama
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The phrase, "Oh snap!" comes to mind.

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#103 black_awpN1
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Whats even more ZOMG worthy (other than PS3 outselling 360 this month) is the fact that PS3 was only behind Wii by 4,000 this month.
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#104 imapieceofwood
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What caused the big jump in january for the PS3?GundamGuy0

Multiplatform game Burnout: paradise?? I don't know? Maybe people are jsut buying it now?

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#105 ReverseCycology
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Wii is obviously supply constrained, it's been that way since launch, don't know why all of a sudden because the PS3 is close suddently it's not. I guess cows need something to sleep better at night!laus_basic

The 360 too had shortages so thats what happens. Remember the PS3 had another sku fire sale.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/14/microsoft-acknowledges-xbox-360-shortages-in-us/

You'll see it'll all go back to normal by next month again.

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All of those stupid "Lemmings" (sigh) who claimed that the PS3 was dead or doomed can eat a HUGE helping of crow. Seeing as how the PS3 has been owning the 360 in Europe and Japan for a long time now, it looks like the PS3 completely TROUNCED the 360 worldwide for the month of January. It's only a matter of time before the PS3 overtakes it. I can't wait to see this forum meltdown.Amnesiacx

40K units is trounced?

Last month pretty much negated any "gain" the PS3 would have over the other 2 consoles(None of the Wii actually):P It would have to sustain a 40k lead for the rest of the year for this to be a helping to the PS3.

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#107 Sonick54
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GH3 outsold galaxy? A FIRST PARTY NINTENDO TITLE?! :o

THIS IS MADNESS!

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#108 Hoffgod
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[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="gmastersexay"]

WTF!? :?

Ldt:
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption: 626,000
Carnival Games: 655,000

Willy105

So there are strong sales for games which appeal to the casual demographic as well as games which appeal to the core gamer. What's the problem?

They are tied.

Tied.

So? Carnival Games, taken for what it is, is a great casual and non-gamer game. I'd much rather see that get strong sales than some shovelware game. Besides, it's not like MP3 has had weak sales. It's sold about as much as MP2:Echoes has total and that's with hardly any advertising at all.
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#109 OhSnapitz
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:shock: I knew it was going to happen eventually, but didn't expect it this soon. MS better hurry up and do a price drop. JayPee89

M$ were silly for simply dropping the price of the SKU's by 30/50 bucks... Supply constrained or not, they allowed Sony to do this..

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#110 jetpropilot
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[QUOTE="laus_basic"]Wii is obviously supply constrained, it's been that way since launch, don't know why all of a sudden because the PS3 is close suddently it's not. I guess cows need something to sleep better at night!ReverseCycology

The 360 too had shortages so thats what happens. Remember the PS3 had another sku fire sale.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/14/microsoft-acknowledges-xbox-360-shortages-in-us/

ahh...damage control

but but but teh shortages!!

losing is losing. any way you slice it

outsold by both its competitors

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#111 Rage010101
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MS better hurry up and finish building that time machine of theirs if they want to alter ps3's fortunate future
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#112 Adrian_Cloud
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:| 360 in last! They need a price drop quick. If the Wii didnt have shortages it would easily be 300,000 +.
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#113 ReverseCycology
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

[QUOTE="laus_basic"]Wii is obviously supply constrained, it's been that way since launch, don't know why all of a sudden because the PS3 is close suddently it's not. I guess cows need something to sleep better at night!jetpropilot

The 360 too had shortages so thats what happens. Remember the PS3 had another sku fire sale.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/14/microsoft-acknowledges-xbox-360-shortages-in-us/

ahh...damage control

but but but teh shortages!!

losing is losing. any way you slice it

outsold by both its competitors

I agree, and worldwide dead last place is dead last place.

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#114 jetpropilot
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:| 360 in last! They need a price drop quickAdrian_Cloud

The question is...can they afford it with the billion dollars they're already shelling out for the warranty program?

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#115 dackchaar
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Holy crap PS3 is nearly catching up to the Wii, I think we might see some serious kick a from Sony this year.
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#116 jack_russel
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[QUOTE="jetpropilot"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

[QUOTE="laus_basic"]Wii is obviously supply constrained, it's been that way since launch, don't know why all of a sudden because the PS3 is close suddently it's not. I guess cows need something to sleep better at night!ReverseCycology

The 360 too had shortages so thats what happens. Remember the PS3 had another sku fire sale.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/14/microsoft-acknowledges-xbox-360-shortages-in-us/

ahh...damage control

but but but teh shortages!!

losing is losing. any way you slice it

outsold by both its competitors

I agree, and worldwide dead last place is dead last place.

who is last worldwide? I thought it was the 360, but I may be mistaken.
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#117 Rage010101
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]:| 360 in last! They need a price drop quickjetpropilot

The question is...can they afford it with the billion dollars they're already shelling out for the warranty program?

plus take into account investors who don't want to lose more money than they already are

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#118 jetpropilot
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Holy crap PS3 is nearly catching up to the Wii, I think we might see some serious kick a from Sony this year.dackchaar

agreed

08 lineup is looking mighty good

and sales are fantastic even with their current weak lineup

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#119 Riverwolf007
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At 40K per month the PS3 will catch the 360 in 145.9 months.

The 360 is toast in 2020!

Teh sleeping dragonzzzz haz awoken!

Seriously though, nice job Sony good to see theres a little fight left in you.

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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]:| 360 in last! They need a price drop quickjetpropilot

The question is...can they afford it with the billion dollars they're already shelling out for the warranty program?

Did you seriously ask if MS could afford something?
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#121 jetpropilot
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who is last worldwide? I thought it was the 360, but I may be mistaken.jack_russel

soon

if not today ;)

NA was their last stronghold

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#122 jack_russel
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[QUOTE="jetpropilot"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]:| 360 in last! They need a price drop quickRage010101

The question is...can they afford it with the billion dollars they're already shelling out for the warranty program?

plus take into account investors who don't want to lose more money than they already are

You invest in microsoft, not the xbox itself. Investors aren't concerned as long as microsoft as a whole is raking in cash.
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#123 coltss
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it doesnt say in the article posted that 360 had shrtages it said the wii did but not the 360 ???

lol lems just accept that finally the ps3 has outsold the 360 in north america.

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#124 shoeman12
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i wonder how the 360 and wii would have sold if there wasn't a shortage.
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#125 jetpropilot
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[QUOTE="jetpropilot"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]:| 360 in last! They need a price drop quickheretrix

The question is...can they afford it with the billion dollars they're already shelling out for the warranty program?

Did you seriously ask if MS could afford something?

If MS was made solely out of that gaming division, then I'd say you have a point. Can they afford to dump all their money into one division?

That was a rhetorical quesiton. No.

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#126 jetpropilot
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lol lems just accept that finally the ps3 has outsold the 360 in north america.

coltss

the key now is to maintain that momentum

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#127 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]:| 360 in last! They need a price drop quickjetpropilot

The question is...can they afford it with the billion dollars they're already shelling out for the warranty program?

I don't think it would help anyway any price drop on X360 we know Sony can match at this point. The one thing Sony has a big advantage on is they control hardware facilities and control costs. That's why they could drop the PS3 price so fast yet and still come out okay. Sony knows how to manufacture.

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i wonder how the 360 and wii would have sold if there wasn't a shortage.shoeman12

Yep, its kinda hard keeping up demand if everyone and their mommas wants Wii60s.

And its pretty weird just when M$ say they had shortages, the numbers proved they were right.

But once they replimish the stocks, the numbers will go back to normal.

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#129 Javy03
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[QUOTE="Amnesiacx"]All of those stupid "Lemmings" (sigh) who claimed that the PS3 was dead or doomed can eat a HUGE helping of crow. Seeing as how the PS3 has been owning the 360 in Europe and Japan for a long time now, it looks like the PS3 completely TROUNCED the 360 worldwide for the month of January. It's only a matter of time before the PS3 overtakes it. I can't wait to see this forum meltdown.Pro_wrestler

40K units is trounced?

Last month pretty much negated any "gain" the PS3 would have over the other 2 consoles(None of the Wii actually):P It would have to sustain a 40k lead for the rest of the year for this to be a helping to the PS3.

Wrong, you forget worldwide sales is what matters. Even with the 360's "amazing" Holiday NA sales it still was outsold overall by the PS3 for 07. Its main fanbase is in NA and if it gets beat by the PS3 there its overall lead will shrink dramatically.

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#130 jack_russel
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[QUOTE="coltss"]

lol lems just accept that finally the ps3 has outsold the 360 in north america.

jetpropilot

the key now is to maintain that momentum

If sony can't maintain this, then there will be massive cow self-ownage next month.
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#131 jetpropilot
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[QUOTE="shoeman12"]i wonder how the 360 and wii would have sold if there wasn't a shortage.ReverseCycology

Yep, its kinda hard keeping up demand if everyone and their mommas wants Wii60s.

And its pretty weird just when M$ say they had shortages, the numbers proved they were right.

just like how its pretty weird they announced this shortage a day before the NPD results?

just like how the Wii had shortages and still managed to sell a respectable amount?

:roll:

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#132 jetpropilot
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[QUOTE="jetpropilot"][QUOTE="coltss"]

lol lems just accept that finally the ps3 has outsold the 360 in north america.

jack_russel

the key now is to maintain that momentum

If sony can't maintain this, then there will be massive cow self-ownage next month.

let us bask in the glow of january then

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#133 ReverseCycology
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[QUOTE="jetpropilot"][QUOTE="coltss"]

lol lems just accept that finally the ps3 has outsold the 360 in north america.

jack_russel

the key now is to maintain that momentum

If sony can't maintain this, then there will be massive cow self-ownage next month.

True. It's just a cycle. Maybe a 10 year life cycle.

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#134 Rage010101
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"][QUOTE="jetpropilot"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]:| 360 in last! They need a price drop quickjack_russel

The question is...can they afford it with the billion dollars they're already shelling out for the warranty program?

plus take into account investors who don't want to lose more money than they already are

You invest in microsoft, not the xbox itself. Investors aren't concerned as long as microsoft as a whole is raking in cash.

their gaming division has lost billions...thats bad for investors regardless of how anyone tries to spin it... they are trying to recover from theirs losses. a price drop may not happen anytime soon. just because MS as a whole is making money doesnt mean investors dont care that one of MS divisions is losing money...

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#135 jetpropilot
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[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="Rage010101"][QUOTE="jetpropilot"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]:| 360 in last! They need a price drop quickRage010101

The question is...can they afford it with the billion dollars they're already shelling out for the warranty program?

plus take into account investors who don't want to lose more money than they already are

You invest in microsoft, not the xbox itself. Investors aren't concerned as long as microsoft as a whole is raking in cash.

their gaming division has lost billions...thats bad for investors regardless of how anyone tries to spin it... they are trying to recover from theirs losses. a price drop may not happen anytime soon. just because MS as a whole is making money doesnt mean investors dont care that one of MS divisions is losing money...

plus, google msft and take a look at their stock price over the past 1month

and 3months

not like the outlook is rosy right now for ms (or for the rest of the stock market for that matter)

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#136 Taiko88
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[QUOTE="Taiko88"]I hope you guys realize that the difference between the 360 and PS3 is only 41,000, and not 100,000. They sell one month pretty good, and "OMG THE SLEEPING DRAGON HAS AWOKEN"...I'm pretty sure if it had it would have been selling a lot better by now. What I don't understand is why is it taking over 1 year to sell good for one month, and claim ownage. How about you wait until next month, hell I'll even give you March as well, if it still sells well, then you can go: "THE SLEEPING DRAGON HAS AWAKENED". Until then, please don't claim one month's NPD as ownage. Thanks.Javy03

Here is one thing you are forgetting. The PS3 has on average been around 60K below the 360 on monthly NPD in NA. WORLDWIDE it is selling very very well. The 360s ONLY stronghold is NA. Now with the PS3 have an extra 40K ahead of the 360 in NA adding to its dominating sales in Japan and Europe that is a bad sign for the 360.

Dont damage control

I'm not damage controlling, I'm just saying that cows shouldn't take this out of proporation. I know the PS3 is doing well in Japan and sorta Europe, good for them.

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#137 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="Rage010101"][QUOTE="jetpropilot"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]:| 360 in last! They need a price drop quickRage010101

The question is...can they afford it with the billion dollars they're already shelling out for the warranty program?

plus take into account investors who don't want to lose more money than they already are

You invest in microsoft, not the xbox itself. Investors aren't concerned as long as microsoft as a whole is raking in cash.

their gaming division has lost billions...thats bad for investors regardless of how anyone tries to spin it... they are trying to recover from theirs losses. a price drop may not happen anytime soon. just because MS as a whole is making money doesnt mean investors dont care that one of MS divisions is losing money...

Actually M$ games division profited the last two quarters... Partly due to the 360 actually making money on it's hardware...

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#138 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]i wonder how the 360 and wii would have sold if there wasn't a shortage.jetpropilot

Yep, its kinda hard keeping up demand if everyone and their mommas wants Wii60s.

And its pretty weird just when M$ say they had shortages, the numbers proved they were right.

just like how its pretty weird they announced this shortage a day before the NPD results?

just like how the Wii had shortages and still managed to sell a respectable amount?

:roll:

Nice timing Microsoft. The ultimate damage control by a company yet. They didn't sell enough X360s to have a shortage.

The Wii is explainable it's in demand worldwide, the X360 doesn't even have the luxury of being in demand anywhere else.

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#139 jack_russel
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[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="Rage010101"][QUOTE="jetpropilot"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]:| 360 in last! They need a price drop quickRage010101

The question is...can they afford it with the billion dollars they're already shelling out for the warranty program?

plus take into account investors who don't want to lose more money than they already are

You invest in microsoft, not the xbox itself. Investors aren't concerned as long as microsoft as a whole is raking in cash.

their gaming division has lost billions...thats bad for investors regardless of how anyone tries to spin it... they are trying to recover from theirs losses. a price drop may not happen anytime soon. just because MS as a whole is making money doesnt mean investors dont care that one of MS divisions is losing money...

yea but they're not going to riot :roll: They're probably just like "meh, could be worse".
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#140 jetpropilot
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[QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="Taiko88"]I hope you guys realize that the difference between the 360 and PS3 is only 41,000, and not 100,000. They sell one month pretty good, and "OMG THE SLEEPING DRAGON HAS AWOKEN"...I'm pretty sure if it had it would have been selling a lot better by now. What I don't understand is why is it taking over 1 year to sell good for one month, and claim ownage. How about you wait until next month, hell I'll even give you March as well, if it still sells well, then you can go: "THE SLEEPING DRAGON HAS AWAKENED". Until then, please don't claim one month's NPD as ownage. Thanks.Taiko88

Here is one thing you are forgetting. The PS3 has on average been around 60K below the 360 on monthly NPD in NA. WORLDWIDE it is selling very very well. The 360s ONLY stronghold is NA. Now with the PS3 have an extra 40K ahead of the 360 in NA adding to its dominating sales in Japan and Europe that is a bad sign for the 360.

Dont damage control

I'm not damage controlling, I'm just saying that cows shouldn't take this out of proporation. I know the PS3 is doing well in Japan and sorta Europe, good for them.

and now, gaining a toehold in NA ;)

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#141 killzowned24
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M$ got beaten down by the whole Sony family:)
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#142 Heydanbud92
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didn't see that coming. can it continue?CaseyWegner

idk

with all of the shortage reports etc. it's hard to tell

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#143 Pro_wrestler
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

[QUOTE="Amnesiacx"]All of those stupid "Lemmings" (sigh) who claimed that the PS3 was dead or doomed can eat a HUGE helping of crow. Seeing as how the PS3 has been owning the 360 in Europe and Japan for a long time now, it looks like the PS3 completely TROUNCED the 360 worldwide for the month of January. It's only a matter of time before the PS3 overtakes it. I can't wait to see this forum meltdown.Javy03

40K units is trounced?

Last month pretty much negated any "gain" the PS3 would have over the other 2 consoles(None of the Wii actually):P It would have to sustain a 40k lead for the rest of the year for this to be a helping to the PS3.

Wrong, you forget worldwide sales is what matters. Even with the 360's "amazing" Holiday NA sales it still was outsold overall by the PS3 for 07. Its main fanbase is in NA and if it gets beat by the PS3 there its overall lead will shrink dramatically.

All I heard was "blah blah blah" cause I heard it all before. How many price cuts and variant changes/cancellations did the PS3 have? How many people are purchasing it for gaming when it makes a cheap high-end blu-ray player? We don't know but looking at the top 10 games list month-month that the PS3 treads ever so lightly on can only assume that people are watching movies rather than playing games..

Yes the 360 has been on the market longer but it also went 16 months without a price drop in contrast the PS3 had one in under a year, it's always a double edged sword with people on system wars. Pity!

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#144 JayPee89
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I'm thinking that May will either make or break the 360. If the PS3 outsells the 360 during GTA's first month, the 360 will without a shadow of a doubt finish dead last.
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#145 shoeman12
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[QUOTE="jetpropilot"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]i wonder how the 360 and wii would have sold if there wasn't a shortage.EmperorSupreme

Yep, its kinda hard keeping up demand if everyone and their mommas wants Wii60s.

And its pretty weird just when M$ say they had shortages, the numbers proved they were right.

just like how its pretty weird they announced this shortage a day before the NPD results?

just like how the Wii had shortages and still managed to sell a respectable amount?

:roll:

Nice timing Microsoft. The ultimate damage control by a company yet. They didn't sell enough X360s to have a shortage.

The Wii is explainable it's in demand worldwide, the X360 doesn't even have the luxury of being in demand anywhere else.

the funny thing is if they were reversed, the 360 selling more and sony coming out a few days before saying there were ps3 shortages, you wouldn't think it was damage control, you would accept it as the truth.

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#146 jetpropilot
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]didn't see that coming. can it continue?Heydanbud92

idk

with all of the shortage reports etc. it's hard to tell

conveniently-timed shortage reports ;)

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#147 Zenfoldor
Member since 2003 • 1775 Posts

No damage control here. Enjoy it cows. Now is your time to shine. I will not degrade your success. I applaud your defeat of the Xbox 360.

Just know, from Sheep:

The war is just beginning. You've defeated our underlings, the Lemmings, but soon you will face the final boss, the Nintendo Wii. Can you survive his health regenerating abilities?

Soon, you....willl....DIE!

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#148 CelineDion
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8492838&st=xbox+360&type=product&id=1186003685732

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Microsoft-Xbox-360-Premium-Console-with-HDMI-882224380751/sem/rpsm/oid/190630/catOid/-16487/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=6560707

Considering the above major retailers all now have ample X360 stock, it sure is funny how the X360 managed to be "supply-constrained" only in January.

:|

It's worth noting as well that Wii is not available online from any of the above retailers.

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#150 jetpropilot
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the funny thing is if they were reversed, the 360 selling more and sony coming out a few days before saying there were ps3 shortages, you wouldn't think it was damage control, you would accept it as the truth.shoeman12

if is a powerful word

if also means it didn't happen

;)