Official Killzone 2 Discussion Thread (IGN: 9.4, Eurogamer 9.0)

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#101 nc_soldier
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[QUOTE="inertk"]That's definitely CG. The cutscenes within the game are realtime and not the opening cinematic.aka_aj03
How do we know this.. why would Guerilla make the opening cinematic CGI if all other cut scenes are Real-Time, wouldn't they make the opening in realtime as well? Guerilla confirmed that everything is realtime, including the opening intro.

Guerilla never confirmed that the opening intro is realtime. And it's just to use your eyes and you'll see that the intro looks overall better then any gameplay or cutscene shown from the game so far, so it's obvious that it's CGI, but as said before, it's CGI mixed with in-game assets. Somethings like the Sev and Rico char models look the same as in gameplay while other things are far more detailed. Just look at the ground in the vid, the ground doesn't have close to that much detail in any gameplay vid shown so far.
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#102 Indie_Hitman
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Yet grips Killzone 2 me in the head hair, shake me and make me jump on the sofa.Episode_Eve
lol wtf?
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#103 KingTuttle
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] Yet Killzone 2 grips me by the head hair, shakes me and makes me jump on the sofa.Indie_Hitman
lol wtf?

I think this is what he meant...it was funny reading the way it was originally though.
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#104 Rikusaki
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After watching more HD gameplay videos.... It looks so amazing. The environments are so alive. I have never seen anything like it before. I can't wait to play this!
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#105 jakarai
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I am really looking forward to Killzone 2 but this thread just sucked the life out of systemwars. I guess I will come back when their isn't an official sticky up.
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#106 EVOLV3
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New comparison between E3 2007 build, Preview Build and Review Build. The game has definetly gotten better with graphics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/iceatcs/Killzone2comparison.jpg
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#107 TAKE_IT_BACK
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[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]Y'know, I sort of just want KZ2 to flop majorly, just to see the cow meltdowns:lol: I'm actually predicting an 8.5.game_masta14
I want it to get a 9.5 since Gears 2 got a 9. Lems will have no choice but to either hide behind A)Overrated 3, oh I mean Halo 3. B)Gamerankings or Metacritic. or C)Crysis and make us really believe they have that type of rig.

Meh, lemmings don't deserve that, they've had a rough few months(with MGS4 being GOTY and whatnot), its cows who really need to be taken of their high horse.

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#108 II_Seraphim_II
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Just a few more weeks till we also see this game get a 9.0 and you all bow down to the sheer awesomeness of my crystal ball!
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[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]Y'know, I sort of just want KZ2 to flop majorly, just to see the cow meltdowns:lol: I'm actually predicting an 8.5.game_masta14
I want it to get a 9.5 since Gears 2 got a 9. Lems will have no choice but to either hide behind A)Overrated 3, oh I mean Halo 3. B)Gamerankings or Metacritic. or C)Crysis and make us really believe they have that type of rig.

I quickly learned that in System Wars it doesn't matter if a game gets a 9.0 or a 9.5 because it's still an AAA game. So it doesn't matter if Gears of War 2 got a 9.0 and if Killzone 2 gets a 9.5 because it's still AAA regardless. So if Killzone 2 get what it's hyped as (AAA - 9.0, 9.5), everything will be fine, but if it less than AAA or even AAAA, then there will be chaos. But I predict there will be no chaos, Killzone 2 will get what it was hyped, and that's an AAA.

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#110 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="game_masta14"][QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]Y'know, I sort of just want KZ2 to flop majorly, just to see the cow meltdowns:lol: I'm actually predicting an 8.5.one_on_one

I want it to get a 9.5 since Gears 2 got a 9. Lems will have no choice but to either hide behind A)Overrated 3, oh I mean Halo 3. B)Gamerankings or Metacritic. or C)Crysis and make us really believe they have that type of rig.

I quickly learned that in System Wars it doesn't matter if a game gets a 9.0 or a 9.5 because it's still an AAA game. So it doesn't matter if Gears of War 2 got a 9.0 and if Killzone 2 gets a 9.5 because it's still AAA regardless. So if Killzone 2 get what it's hyped as (AAA - 9.0, 9.5), everything will be fine, but if it less than AAA or even AAAA, then there will be chaos. But I predict there will be no chaos, Killzone 2 will get what it was hyped, and that's an AAA.

In the End....There shall be only Chaos! *queue GoW music* Sorry...u set me up :P
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#111 SambaLele
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New comparison between E3 2007 build, Preview Build and Review Build. The game has definetly gotten better with graphics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/iceatcs/Killzone2comparison.jpg
EVOLV3

Hmmm! That's a noticeable difference from each build. I didn't think they could upgrade the gfx that much from that already awesome looking pre-alpha code they showed...

To be sincere, i really thought the game would come out looking the same as the pre-alpha build. Glad that i was wrong!:D

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#112 Episode_Eve
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New comparison between E3 2007 build, Preview Build and Review Build. The game has definetly gotten better with graphics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/iceatcs/Killzone2comparison.jpg
EVOLV3
Thanks Evolv3. I was telling people this last month, but some didn't agree for some odd reason. It's evident in these pics, and you can look at gameplay vids as well. The color and textures have come a LONG way.
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#113 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] Yet Killzone 2 grips me by the head hair, shakes me and makes me jump on the sofa.KingTuttle
lol wtf?

I think this is what he meant...it was funny reading the way it was originally though.

LMAO yeah. Funny Google translation.
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#114 Auto_dude
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has anyone else seen this
http://www.gamesradar.com/f/stabbing-through-killzone-2/a-2009010813215751020
ive read the entire article but it still has me concerned now
lets hope things are different when we play it...damn i cant wait
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#115 Episode_Eve
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has anyone else seen this
http://www.gamesradar.com/f/stabbing-through-killzone-2/a-2009010813215751020
ive read the entire article but it still has me concerned now
lets hope things are different when we play it...damn i cant waitAuto_dude
Yeah I saw that. They also mention that they were playing on normal and its just the first level (and they died in levels after that). You know the same can be done in many other games. I'm not excusing the hilarity, but its not a concern for me.
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#116 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]New comparison between E3 2007 build, Preview Build and Review Build. The game has definetly gotten better with graphics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/iceatcs/Killzone2comparison.jpg
Episode_Eve
Thanks Evolv3. I was telling people this last month, but some didn't agree for some odd reason. It's evident in these pics, and you can look at gameplay vids as well. The color and textures have come a LONG way.

i don't know, looks like the lighting has been upgraded as well. It's looking better on the newer build, judging from those pics.

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#117 NocturnalNoctis
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I can't wait for Killzone 2. Its been a minute since I played a good FPS.
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#118 one_on_one
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I remember reading GG said there will not be any loading screens for Killzone 2. Can anyone confirm this?
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#119 Gamersince81
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New comparison between E3 2007 build, Preview Build and Review Build. The game has definetly gotten better with graphics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/iceatcs/Killzone2comparison.jpg
EVOLV3

KILLZONE 2 POWAH FTW!!!

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#120 ski11buzz
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so stoked for killzone 2. the game will deliver, and hopefully shut up some of the defiant and scared fanboys. plus, i need a reason to play my ps3 online again
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#121 killa4lyfe
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ok i have heard that there are gonna be demos in feb for ppl in europe so if u make an account of uk can u get it? can some 1 clarify?
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#122 Couth_
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ok i have heard that there are gonna be demos in feb for ppl in europe so if u make an account of uk can u get it? can some 1 clarify?killa4lyfe
That's usually how it works yes. Just make a U.K. account and when it is available, long on to that one and download the demo
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#123 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="EVOLV3"]New comparison between E3 2007 build, Preview Build and Review Build. The game has definetly gotten better with graphics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/iceatcs/Killzone2comparison.jpg
SambaLele

Thanks Evolv3. I was telling people this last month, but some didn't agree for some odd reason. It's evident in these pics, and you can look at gameplay vids as well. The color and textures have come a LONG way.

i don't know, looks like the lighting has been upgraded as well. It's looking better on the newer build, judging from those pics.

Yeah lighting too lol. I knew I was missing something.
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#124 Episode_Eve
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I remember reading GG said there will not be any loading screens for Killzone 2. Can anyone confirm this?one_on_one
I read it on the KZ2 forums, but I don't feel like getting the link. I think it was MotherH (Seb Downy) from the dev team. He said there's no install and no loading (after the initial load of course).
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#125 _Brennan_
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Who likes the KZ2 gif in my sig? Headshots!!!! :D
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#126 Episode_Eve
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Who likes the KZ2 gif in my sig? Headshots!!!! :D_Brennan_
That gif is awesome.
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#127 rockguy92
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I can't wait for the demo.
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#128 Rexer-i4
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I knew my thread was destined to die. That's the last time i bother with the mega threads i reckon. :PNinja-Hippo
your thread was the best.
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#129 AgentA-Mi6
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Who likes the KZ2 gif in my sig? Headshots!!!! :D_Brennan_
Awesome Man, I cant wait for the Knife Fights too :twisted:
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#130 Malta_1980
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my hype-meter is reaching ridiculous points with every news / vids of shots that are released for KZ2 :)

Can't wait for the Demo and obviously for the final game to be released....

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#131 Pariah_001
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Are you telling me this is not CGI? Holy ****!lusitanogamer

I'd say it's touched up a bit for more cinematic effect as a cut scene, but it's definitely in engine. So it's not CGI.

Edit: Letme clarify that it's the character models that look in engine. Not the space scenes.

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#132 thespywholied
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a blast to the past with this epic killzone 1 speech http://uk.youtube.com/watch=v4Ns4qIyVpl
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#133 thespywholied
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link broken! just type in killzone 1 intro. on youtube. epic.

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#134 jhcho2
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[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]Are you telling me this is not CGI? Holy ****!Pariah_001

I'd say it's touched up a bit for more cinematic effect as a cut scene, but it's definitely in engine. So it's not CGI.

Edit: Letme clarify that it's the character models that look in engine. Not the space scenes.

i don't think i've ever heard of 'touched up' in game engine. if the graphics could be touched up to produce better results, whatever they did to touch it up should be in the engine itself and not as a seperate thing. If you render something which couldn't be produced by the engine normally, i think it's called CGI.

It is CGI my friend. You mean after looking at so many videos you couldn't tell? How the characters seemlessly blend in to the visuals instead of standing out like it normally does.

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#135 Riverwolf007
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I vote this as best thread that should have been started after E3 2005. :P
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#136 Angry_PolarBear
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man I'm so hyped for Killzone 2, pre-ordered mine just a few hours ago. :D
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#137 lusitanogamer
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[QUOTE="one_on_one"]I remember reading GG said there will not be any loading screens for Killzone 2. Can anyone confirm this?Episode_Eve
I read it on the KZ2 forums, but I don't feel like getting the link. I think it was MotherH (Seb Downy) from the dev team. He said there's no install and no loading (after the initial load of course).

But but teh blu-ray is slow.:P If that is true (and i believe it's true, we have Uncharted to prove this is possible) it only shows how much developers can accomplish when they take their time with the PS3 and learn to work with it properly.
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#138 LZOOO101
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I agree. The first Killzone had so much hype as it was called the "Halo Killer" so long ago. What happened? It was one of the worst FPS's that came out that year. Now sure it looked good but the gameplay sucked as and the lack of vehicle use was really upsetting. There didn't seem to be much playability and it turned out to be really disappointing. I just hope that with all the hype that's been generated, and the long-ass amount of time they've spent making rthis game, it better be a 9.5. But like I said, the first one was a HUGE disappointment.
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#139 Angry_PolarBear
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="one_on_one"]I remember reading GG said there will not be any loading screens for Killzone 2. Can anyone confirm this?lusitanogamer
I read it on the KZ2 forums, but I don't feel like getting the link. I think it was MotherH (Seb Downy) from the dev team. He said there's no install and no loading (after the initial load of course).

But but teh blu-ray is slow.:P If that is true (and i believe it's true, we have Uncharted to prove this is possible) it only shows how much developers can accomplish when they take their time with the PS3 and learn to work with it properly.

the only reason i dislike most multiplats, they never push the systems.
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I agree. The first Killzone had so much hype as it was called the "Halo Killer" so long ago. What happened? It was one of the worst FPS's that came out that year. Now sure it looked good but the gameplay sucked as and the lack of vehicle use was really upsetting. There didn't seem to be much playability and it turned out to be really disappointing. I just hope that with all the hype that's been generated, and the long-ass amount of time they've spent making rthis game, it better be a 9.5. But like I said, the first one was a HUGE disappointment.LZOOO101
KZ was broken. Littered with glitches and the graphics were terrible. I'd safely hype KZ2 8.5-9.0
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#141 I_AM_MEGATRON
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ballet of death 720p here to download http://www.videogamer.com/ps3/killzone_2/download/killzone_2_trailer6_hd.html
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#142 lusitanogamer
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Seems like there's no plans for co-op on KZ2.

http://www.psu.com/PSU-Exclusive--Killzone-2-interview-Feature--a0006105-p0.php

Sucks for those who care about this feature.

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#143 Master-Thief-09
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Seems like there's no plans for co-op on KZ2.

http://www.psu.com/PSU-Exclusive--Killzone-2-interview-Feature--a0006105-p0.php

Sucks for those who care about this feature.

lusitanogamer
Ah, that's a shame. Would have been good and added to the experience seeing as it's squad based.
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#144 Angry_PolarBear
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Seems like there's no plans for co-op on KZ2.

http://www.psu.com/PSU-Exclusive--Killzone-2-interview-Feature--a0006105-p0.php

Sucks for those who care about this feature.

lusitanogamer
maybe in killzone 3 then :)
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#145 tmntPunchout
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Man, I better preorder this game soon.
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#146 Lewisite
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Seems like there's no plans for co-op on KZ2.

http://www.psu.com/PSU-Exclusive--Killzone-2-interview-Feature--a0006105-p0.php

Sucks for those who care about this feature.

lusitanogamer

What game started this co-op craze anyway? It seems to be something in recent times where people demand a game have co-op.

It is a nice extra and all for those who enjoy it but I still feel the almighty deathmatch and team deathmatch are where the FPS multiplayer experiance belongs. :P

CTF type modes are nice as well.

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#147 FragTycoon
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[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]

Seems like there's no plans for co-op on KZ2.

http://www.psu.com/PSU-Exclusive--Killzone-2-interview-Feature--a0006105-p0.php

Sucks for those who care about this feature.

Lewisite

What game started this co-op craze anyway? It seems to be something in recent times where people demand a game have co-op.

It is a nice extra and all for those who enjoy it but I still feel the almighty deathmatch and team deathmatch are where the FPS multiplayer experiance belongs. :P

CTF type modes are nice as well.

co-op is what people want atm.

It looks like KZ2 wont have Campaign Co-op but I think they have "Bots" witch is basically what horde mode is. If it's like the first killzone but online I'll have allot of fun.

Let's just hope they aren't deadly accurate with grenade launchers like the first :P

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#148 NocturnalNoctis
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Seems like there's no plans for co-op on KZ2.

http://www.psu.com/PSU-Exclusive--Killzone-2-interview-Feature--a0006105-p0.php

Sucks for those who care about this feature.

lusitanogamer
That makes no sense, at E3 and GDC they said co-op would be patched in on the game's release date. Oh well, i'll have a better single player experience doing campaign alone. Me and my friends can just pwn others online together.
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#149 one_on_one
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Seems like there's no plans for co-op on KZ2.

http://www.psu.com/PSU-Exclusive--Killzone-2-interview-Feature--a0006105-p0.php

Sucks for those who care about this feature.

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Wait, I'm sort of confused. So there will be no coop for Killzone 2 when the game releases and no coop patch after? Anyway, I'm starting to see the patern with PS3 shooters, Resistance 2 didn't have coop in the single player and now Killzone 2. The developers stated that it's too difficult for them to do. :| And I assume that the graphics would drop down significantly.

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Most games with co-op on the campaign mode have pretty weak storylines. If Killzone 2 has a deep storyline then i'll be cool because i'd rather experience that alone. If its a horrible storyline i'll be slightly disappointed. Co-op campaign makes up for badly written stories most(not all)of the time