Official numbers: XBOX still ahead.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]

look at this research here :-

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/survey-blu-ray-primarily-driving-ps3-purchase-intent

According to this research, Blu-ray IS the primary reason to purchase a PS3, most interesting point of the article? You will see "specific games", ie exclusives or multiplats, rank 10th on the list as a reason to buy, so much for your theory eh?

sts106mat

You didn't read the article!, Bluray was the attractive feature that people gave when asked about buying a PS3, not exclusives, thats all i was pointing out.

say what you like, his "theory" is not backed up by any survey. All i did was show that in one survey "the exclusives" were not the major factor in determing if people buy a PS3. he is wrong, he has basically agreed since, that exclusives aren't the number one reason. it might be the number one reason for him, he can believe it is for everyone if he wants. Bluray functionality was the main reason 700 people gave when asked to rank the most attractive things about buying a PS3.

700 people isn't a lot of course, it was only posted as information that contradicts what cadbury was saying, "exclusives are the reason people buy a console" but then he hasn't shown any surveys that show exclusives are the main reason has he?

Wow, you need to just give it up. Like others have said, Sony's exclusives doesn't have very much appeal & doesn't sell in high numbers like Mario, Halo, etc., except for GT 5. And the PS brand is no longer very hot like it used to be back in the days of the PS1 & the PS2.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

PS3 is at 51 million and 360 53.6 million, no?

blue_hazy_basic

(so no is correct to your question)

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

PS3 is at 51 million and 360 53.6 million, no?

(so no is correct to your question)

Who really cares about this crap? Also I cant believe this thread has gone on for this long.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]

You didn't read the article!, Bluray was the attractive feature that people gave when asked about buying a PS3, not exclusives, thats all i was pointing out.

say what you like, his "theory" is not backed up by any survey. All i did was show that in one survey "the exclusives" were not the major factor in determing if people buy a PS3. he is wrong, he has basically agreed since, that exclusives aren't the number one reason. it might be the number one reason for him, he can believe it is for everyone if he wants. Bluray functionality was the main reason 700 people gave when asked to rank the most attractive things about buying a PS3.

700 people isn't a lot of course, it was only posted as information that contradicts what cadbury was saying, "exclusives are the reason people buy a console" but then he hasn't shown any surveys that show exclusives are the main reason has he?

sts106mat

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]You didn't read the article!, Bluray was the attractive feature that people gave when asked about buying a PS3, not exclusives, thats all i was pointing out.say what you like, his "theory" is not backed up by any survey. All i did was show that in one survey "the exclusives" were not the major factor in determing if people buy a PS3. he is wrong, he has basically agreed since, that exclusives aren't the number one reason. it might be the number one reason for him, he can believe it is for everyone if he wants. Bluray functionality was the main reason 700 people gave when asked to rank the most attractive things about buying a PS3.700 people isn't a lot of course, it was only posted as information that contradicts what cadbury was saying, "exclusives are the reason people buy a console" but then he hasn't shown any surveys that show exclusives are the main reason has he?sts106mat

So by the time the ps3 is 5-5 and a half years old it will finally outsell the 360? Thats pretty bad...

So by the time the ps3 is 5-5 and a half years old it will finally outsell the 360? Thats pretty bad...

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

So by the time the ps3 is 5-5 and a half years old it will finally outsell the 360? Thats pretty bad...

Heil68

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

So by the time the ps3 is 5-5 and a half years old it will finally outsell the 360? Thats pretty bad...

GrilledCharlie

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="Heil68"] Considering the 360 had a year head start? I don't think so. Why would it EVER outsell something that had a YEAR head start? hmmmmHeil68

So the PS3 has been catching up quick this past year.shakmaster13

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] PS3 at 50 mil as of now and 360 at 53.6 mil at end of MS's Q3 according to link.

(so no is correct to your question)

blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

So by the time the ps3 is 5-5 and a half years old it will finally outsell the 360? Thats pretty bad...

Heil68

Brand, price, word of mouth, promotion, manufacturing availability/capacity, features/capabilities, reliability...the list goes on. First mover status sometimes gives you an advantage, sometimes second or later mover provides more advantage. Regardless, time is only one factor in success. This is pretty much true for all consumer products.

Year ahead with 3.6m lead.... I'm sure MS is busting out the bubbly :lol:

wow looks like theyll never catch the wii lol

Yes the Xbox 360 is ahead. 53.4 million Consoles sold Vs 50.1 Million PS3 consoles sold. But I have both an Xbox 360 and PS3. So who ever wins the Console sales race. Or Console "War". I can be on the winning side. Go Xbox 360! Go Playstation 3!, Xbox 360 is the best!, Playstation 3 is the best!

Yep at this time the Xbox 360 is ahead of the PS3. By 3.3 million consoles as of May 27th 2011. So the War is still being decided until the Xbox 3 and PS4 arrive. This is a very close console race since SNES VS Genesis.

Since this is System wars. Then 3.3 million ish is a big deal in the race for second place....

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

So by the time the ps3 is 5-5 and a half years old it will finally outsell the 360? Thats pretty bad...

Heil68

Because it's a Xbox lol. I would of never thought Xbox would outsell a Playstation console. Mainly because the brand name of SONY, Playstation, the major success of the PS1 and huge success of the PS2.

Not to mention its only $300 now with a blu-ray player and an exclusive lineup that destroys Xbox.

I honestly can't believe it's been this long and the Triple hasn't passed it yet. It's not a big deal as SW makes it out to be though.

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] Never heard of the Wii, huh?blue_hazy_basic

I honestly can't believe it's been this long and the Triple hasn't passed it yet.cloudff7tm

Simple economics and marketing, really.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 is exclusive to the Xbox 360.

Congratulations to Microsot.

I think it's the first time since the Genesis that a company has come in second twice in a row :P

So by the time the ps3 is 5-5 and a half years old it will finally outsell the 360? Thats pretty bad...

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

So by the time the ps3 is 5-5 and a half years old it will finally outsell the 360? Thats pretty bad...

kuu2

Weird how the PS2 launched after the Dreamcast by a year but had no problems surpassing. I guess the PS3 is not as good as the PS2 was, but that is something 75% of PS2 owners already knew.:lol:

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]I honestly can't believe it's been this long and the Triple hasn't passed it yet.GameShtopper

Simple economics and marketing, really.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 is exclusive to the Xbox 360.

That's not all there is to it.

Year ahead with 3.6m lead.... I'm sure MS is busting out the bubbly :lol:

FragTycoon

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Year ahead with 3.6m lead.... I'm sure MS is busting out the bubbly :lol:

xhawk27

That is the funny part how much it has changed and how much of the market Sony has lost

Last gen

Nintendo- 22 million

Microsoft - 24 million

Sony- 120 million

This gen has been brutal for Sony. To make it worse how many billions the PS3 has cost Sony.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Year ahead with 3.6m lead.... I'm sure MS is busting out the bubbly :lol:

xhawk27

[QUOTE="xhawk27"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Year ahead with 3.6m lead.... I'm sure MS is busting out the bubbly :lol:

rybe1025

That is the funny part how much it has changed and how much of the market Sony has lost

Last gen

Nintendo- 22 million

Microsoft - 24 million

Sony- 150+ million

This gen has been brutal for Sony. To make it worse how many billions the PS3 has cost Sony.

In fact, they were losing more money off of PS3 than what they were making off of the PS2. Not to mention that they've lost about 70% of the marketshare to the 360, lost most of the sales to the Wii, & that they've blown all of their profits that they made off of both PS1 & PS2 on the PS3.

No matter how anyone tries to spin it, the PS3 has been a disaster for Sony this gen.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Year ahead with 3.6m lead.... I'm sure MS is busting out the bubbly :lol:

xhawk27

Sony had like 70% last gen and now MS still aint got that and is destine to be last.

Don't forget the party hats :lol:

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

[QUOTE="xhawk27"] Sony had like 70% last gen and now they have gone first to last! :lol:garland51

That is the funny part how much it has changed and how much of the market Sony has lost

Last gen

Nintendo- 22 million

Microsoft - 24 million

Sony- 150+ million

This gen has been brutal for Sony. To make it worse how many billions the PS3 has cost Sony.

In fact, they were losing more money off of PS3 than what they were making off of the PS2. Not to mention that they've lost about 70% of the marketshare to the 360, lost most of the sales to the Wii, & that they've blown all of their profits that they made off of both PS1 & PS2 on the PS3.

No matter how anyone tries to spin it, the PS3 has been a disaster for Sony this gen.

do you have a link for that?... that's ok.. I know the answer to that :P

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

That is the funny part how much it has changed and how much of the market Sony has lost

Last gen

Nintendo- 22 million

Microsoft - 24 million

Sony- 150+ million

This gen has been brutal for Sony. To make it worse how many billions the PS3 has cost Sony.FragTycoon

In fact, they were losing more money off of PS3 than what they were making off of the PS2. Not to mention that they've lost about 70% of the marketshare to the 360, lost most of the sales to the Wii, & that they've blown all of their profits that they made off of both PS1 & PS2 on the PS3.

No matter how anyone tries to spin it, the PS3 has been a disaster for Sony this gen.

do you have a link for that?... that's ok.. I know the answer to that :P

You've must've missed all the articles, etc. talking about those things years ago...I doubt that Sony themselves or their investors are happy about those situations.

360 has a total of 18month head start over PS3, so it SHOULD have more sales. drakekratos

An XBOX having more sales than a Playstation, ludicrous.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

That is the funny part how much it has changed and how much of the market Sony has lost

Last gen

Nintendo- 22 million

Microsoft - 24 million

Sony- 150+ million

This gen has been brutal for Sony. To make it worse how many billions the PS3 has cost Sony.FragTycoon

In fact, they were losing more money off of PS3 than what they were making off of the PS2. Not to mention that they've lost about 70% of the marketshare to the 360, lost most of the sales to the Wii, & that they've blown all of their profits that they made off of both PS1 & PS2 on the PS3.

No matter how anyone tries to spin it, the PS3 has been a disaster for Sony this gen.

do you have a link for that?... that's ok.. I know the answer to that :P

Sony has lost more on the PS3 then the PS2 has made.

Or are you talking about losing market share? If so the PS2 had almost 3 times more then the Xbox and Gamecube COMBINED at the start of this gen but now the PS3 is 3.6 million in last place. The 360 and Wii greatly increased the market shares for their companies. The funny part how the PS2 has 150+ million now and just further proof that people owning a PS2 does not mean buying a PS3.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Year ahead with 3.6m lead.... I'm sure MS is busting out the bubbly :lol:

xhawk27

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]360 has a total of 18month head start over PS3, so it SHOULD have more sales. themyth01

An XBOX having more sales than a Playstation, ludicrous.

Haha. Excellent. It has been a while since I've seen that graph, tis a shame since I always get a good laugh.

[QUOTE="xhawk27"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Year ahead with 3.6m lead.... I'm sure MS is busting out the bubbly :lol:

spookykid143

I only care for GOWIII, UC3 and Infamous. OHH MAN three exclusives.

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]360 has a total of 18month head start over PS3, so it SHOULD have more sales.themyth01

An XBOX having more sales than a Playstation, ludicrous.

And yet, it took Sony 4 & a half years just for them to even reach 50 million owners. :lol: They had no problems reaching over 50 million owners in less than 4 1/2 years with both the PS1 & the PS2, & neither did Nintendo with the Wii. And for them to go from 150+ million PS2 owners to now just 50+ million PS3 owners is quite embarassing.

In Microsoft's case, I say that they've been more successful for this gen than last gen, considering that they went from having 24 million Xbox owners to now 54+ million 360 owners, have been making profits since '07 or '08, & have gotten more 3rd party support than ever before.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

[QUOTE="xhawk27"] Sony had like 70% last gen and now they have gone first to last! :lol:garland51

That is the funny part how much it has changed and how much of the market Sony has lost

Last gen

Nintendo- 22 million

Microsoft - 24 million

Sony- 150+ million

This gen has been brutal for Sony. To make it worse how many billions the PS3 has cost Sony.

In fact, they were losing more money off of PS3 than what they were making off of the PS2. Not to mention that they've lost about 70% of the marketshare to the 360, lost most of the sales to the Wii, & that they've blown all of their profits that they made off of both PS1 & PS2 on the PS3.

No matter how anyone tries to spin it, the PS3 has been a disaster for Sony this gen.

and it's quite clearly to everyone that it's nobody's fault but sony's own.

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

360 has a total of 18month head start over PS3, so it SHOULD have more sales.drakekratos

An XBOX having more sales than a Playstation, ludicrous.

And yet, it took Sony 4 & a half years just for them to even reach 50 million owners. :lol: They had no problems reaching over 50 million owners in less than 4 1/2 years with both the PS1 & the PS2, & neither did Nintendo with the Wii. And for them to go from 150+ million PS2 owners to now just 50+ million PS3 owners is quite embarassing.

In Microsoft's case, I say that they've been more successful for this gen than last gen, considering that they went from having 24 million Xbox owners to now 54+ million 360 owners, have been making profits since '07 or '08, & have gotten more 3rd party support than ever before.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

An XBOX having more sales than a Playstation, ludicrous._Cadbury_

And yet, it took Sony 4 & a half years just for them to even reach 50 million owners. :lol: They had no problems reaching over 50 million owners in less than 4 1/2 years with both the PS1 & the PS2, & neither did Nintendo with the Wii. And for them to go from 150+ million PS2 owners to now just 50+ million PS3 owners is quite embarassing.

In Microsoft's case, I say that they've been more successful for this gen than last gen, considering that they went from having 24 million Xbox owners to now 54+ million 360 owners, have been making profits since '07 or '08, & have gotten more 3rd party support than ever before.

And if you're going to compare the PS3s sales to the PS2 sales at the 11 year mark, you might actually want to wait for the ps3 to turn 11 before you start getting too excited.

You also don't seem to realise that the gaming industry and the competition within has actually change drastically since the ps1/ps2 days. But yeah, keep telling yourself whatever makes you sleep at night.

Please. The PS3 won't even reach those numbers at all. The popularity of the PS brand has been diminished & it's not as popular as it used to be. If it took them this long just to reach 50 million owners, then imagine how long it's going to take to reach 100 million. Besides, people are going to be paying more attention to Project Cafe over PS3 starting at this E3, & when it releases worldwide next year.

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

So by the time the ps3 is 5-5 and a half years old it will finally outsell the 360? Thats pretty bad...

kuu2

Weird how the PS2 launched after the Dreamcast by a year but had no problems surpassing. I guess the PS3 is not as good as the PS2 was, but that is something 75% of PS2 owners already knew.:lol:

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="garland51"]

And yet, it took Sony 4 & a half years just for them to even reach 50 million owners. :lol: They had no problems reaching over 50 million owners in less than 4 1/2 years with both the PS1 & the PS2, & neither did Nintendo with the Wii. And for them to go from 150+ million PS2 owners to now just 50+ million PS3 owners is quite embarassing.

In Microsoft's case, I say that they've been more successful for this gen than last gen, considering that they went from having 24 million Xbox owners to now 54+ million 360 owners, have been making profits since '07 or '08, & have gotten more 3rd party support than ever before.

And if you're going to compare the PS3s sales to the PS2 sales at the 11 year mark, you might actually want to wait for the ps3 to turn 11 before you start getting too excited.

You also don't seem to realise that the gaming industry and the competition within has actually change drastically since the ps1/ps2 days. But yeah, keep telling yourself whatever makes you sleep at night.

Please. The PS3 won't even reach those numbers at all. The popularity of the PS brand has been diminished & it's not as popular as it used to be. If it took them this long just to reach 50 million owners, then imagine how long it's going to take to reach 100 million. Besides, people are going to be paying more attention to Project Cafe over PS3 starting at this E3, & when it releases worldwide next year.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"] They reached 50mil 9 months faster than MS and the 360... Not to mention that not only was the PS3 an extremely expensive console when it launched, but the economy has been rough since the consoles release. A lot of people just couldn't afford it.

And if you're going to compare the PS3s sales to the PS2 sales at the 11 year mark, you might actually want to wait for the ps3 to turn 11 before you start getting too excited.

You also don't seem to realise that the gaming industry and the competition within has actually change drastically since the ps1/ps2 days. But yeah, keep telling yourself whatever makes you sleep at night._Cadbury_

Please. The PS3 won't even reach those numbers at all. The popularity of the PS brand has been diminished & it's not as popular as it used to be. If it took them this long just to reach 50 million owners, then imagine how long it's going to take to reach 100 million. Besides, people are going to be paying more attention to Project Cafe over PS3 starting at this E3, & when it releases worldwide next year.

If the support of PS3 is truly strong, why hasn't it surpassed the Wii in sales yet? Where are those other 100 million owners, hmmm?