Official Post-Microsoft E3 Conference Discussion Thread (Use it)

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#151 mentzer
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Everyone watching at my job reacted with a "WTF???" when MS announced Scene It.

"This is what MS comes up with for my $479 console??" said one of my coworkers.

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#153 iunderstand
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[QUOTE="iunderstand"]

Those controllers are not worth 40 dollars, and how many controllers do you need for a quiz game? Just pass around a single controller, it would work the same for 50 dollars less.

DoctorBunny

For a game you have to hit the buzzer on which he even said while showing the controller... makes perfect sense, /rolls eyes. So $10 a controller, wireless at that, isn't worth it?

Well are you planning to buy it? I certainly wouldn't. But hey, if that's your type of thing all the more power to ya.

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#154 mentzer
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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]WOW Microsoft had a great conference full of good news about new exclusives....honestly...they had NOTHING.mrboo15

You expected them to have new exclusives and have them release within 5 months? that makes perfect sense... Instead of fake trailers and cgi, they had hands on demo's and gameplay for the majority of it and focused on this fall.

Oh please,everyone was expecting them to drop a big bomb.MGS4 multiplatform? FF multiplatform? Were was this big bomb?They have NOTHING to go up agaisnt Sony and Nintendo

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh. Thats better.

Do agree that MS had a lackluster showing. Especially with Sony gearing up it's big guns for the holiday season.

Expected much more from MS than Scene It and Bambi.

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#155 DoctorBunny
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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]WOW Microsoft had a great conference full of good news about new exclusives....honestly...they had NOTHING.mrboo15

You expected them to have new exclusives and have them release within 5 months? that makes perfect sense... Instead of fake trailers and cgi, they had hands on demo's and gameplay for the majority of it and focused on this fall.

Ohplease,everyonewasexpectingthemtodropabigbomb.MGS4multiplatform?FFmultiplatform?Werewasthisbigbomb?TheyhaveNOTHINGtogoupagaisntSonyandNintendo

Really? The only people i've heard say that were die hard lemmings. Everyone else I know didn't expect it seeing how close it was scheduled to x07.. or would it be x08 now?

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#156 dave_ps3
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Man the Microsoft conference looked so cliched to the point of embarrasment.

Not as bad as the Sony crapfest last year but it runs it close, gives Sony and Nintendo a real good chance this year to steal the show.

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#157 ironcreed
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That conference blew chunks. The highlights of the entire show were multiplats, which Microsoft were acting like were exclusives, lol. Namely, Assassin's Creed, COD 4, and RE5....all of which look better than Halo 3. Halo 3 looked good, but nothing extraordinary at all. Yet Microsoft smugly acts as if they have it in the bag because of that one game.

All in all....Sony will easily show up Microsoft this year because they are now the wolf climbing the mountain, and the wolf climbing the mountain is always hungrier than the one at the top. I am not being fanboyish either, lol, as I own a 360 as well. It is just easy to see that after that press conference, this years E3 is Sony's for the taking with their exclusives alone. Not to mention the price cut and Home.

Just being realistic here is all. Suddenly, the future looks alot better for the PS3 than most would like to give it credit for.

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#158 jg4xchamp
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That conference blew chunks. The highlights of the entire show were multiplats, which Microsoft were acting like were exclusives, lol. Namely, Assassin's Creed, COD 4, and RE5....all of which look better than Halo 3. Halo 3 looked good, but nothing extraordinary at all. Yet Microsoft smugly acts as if they have it in the bag because of that one game.

All in all....Sony will easily show up Microsoft this year because they are now the wolf climbing the mountain, and the wolf climbing the mountain is always hungrier than the one at the top. I am not being fanboyish either, lol, as I own a 360 as well. It is just easy to see that after that press conference, this years E3 is Sony's for the taking with their exclusives alone. Not to mention the price cut and Home.

Just being realistic here is all. Suddenly, the future looks alot better for the PS3 than most would like to give it credit for.

ironcreed
i have to agree with u. Sony or Nintendo can easily beat Microsofts conference. they will probably still show other games that arent just 07. I think MS being so safe at E3 hurt themselves. Sure Halo 3 IMO looked great and got all the halo fans hyped. It looked great. but where was Blue Dragon, Alan Wake, Halo Wars, Too Human, etc and new exclusives. where was Banjo Three. there was alot more they could have shown. They basically handed Sony and Nintendo a shot at stealing the show. Unless Sony and Nintendo play it safe and just show stuff thats coming this year Then MS may lose some hype and momentum to both Sony and Nintendo.
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#159 venomgxt
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the MS e3 conference wasnt that great so SONY or Nintendo will steal the show for sure. most likely Sony but i love Nintendo so Yay!!! go Nintendo!
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#160 McCool69
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Yeah, especially since they do less than a standard controller. I don't see why they didn't make the game an XBL game for 10 bucks and use the standard controller.iunderstand

Because it's a party game. Very few people have 4 controllers at home. And a real 'buzzer' type of controller is great for games like these.

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#161 mentzer
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Wierdest part of the MS conference was the boasting about the sports games running "twice as fast" as last years version.

"that the best you got??" immediately popped in my head.

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#162 slothboyadvance
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[QUOTE="iunderstand"]Yeah, especially since they do less than a standard controller. I don't see why they didn't make the game an XBL game for 10 bucks and use the standard controller.McCool69

Because it's a party game. Very few people have 4 controllers at home. And a real 'buzzer' type of controller is great for games like these.

Yep.Great for all three, possibly four of them.

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#163 -Sir-Poof-
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What was MS thinking putting all those EA sports games and The Simpsons also the list was full of multiplats!

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#164 PikaPichu
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I didn't get to read the summary until now... So there's not going to be any price drops on any of the 360s? :(
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#165 WeeWeeJumbo
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Pretty disappointing overall; no incredible new announcements. Halo 3 looks merely good, not truly great, I'm not interested in Marketplace movies or party games; surprisingly, the most impressive trailer I've seen was for PGR 4. Have you guys seen that yet? It's actually pretty amazing. Else, maybe there are some surprise announcements they plan to make over the next few days...? Either way, I don't think it will be hard for Sony's conference to top MS'.
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#166 HeHateMe_basic
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Cod4 was the best game they showed, cannot wait to play that mo fo.
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#167 Eothein
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The conference was far too safe. M$ didn't want to show off too much new things for some unknown reason. Still some of the games looked good but where was Alan Wake? As has all ready been said there was no big announcment, no MGS4 multi plat, no price cut ,no new titles*, X07 will be the place to see Xbox. Meanwhile Ninty and Sony are (hopefully) readying to blow the roof off E3.

And that Halo theme performance at the beginning went on for far, far too long.

* Viva Pinata and Scene-It? are a joke, M$ are being silly if they think they can win the "casual market."

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#168 blizzvalve
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This looked like the best show Microsoft has ever done, and I missed it. At least I'll be able to see Sony and Nintendo's conferences.
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#169 NorthlandMan
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The Microsoft press conference was rubbish!!!!!!!

Lets start with that rock ban opening (cringeworthy). then all the sales charts (where they went on to make themselves look more successful than the wii somehow). Then their weak attempt to compete with the Wii (the controller with the Win button was hilarious)

We got some definitive dates for some great looking titles but as a whole the conference was terrible. they even got reggie bush on stage to pimp a multiplatform game. And where were the new announcements?

and guess what guy?!!!!!!!! you get to download Sonic and Golden Axe!!!!! Wii owners get 10 times better Genesis games and you get Sonic and Golden Axe!!!!! LMFAO. but at least you can download movies right?

It was by no means a disaster like Sony's press conference laast year but that was one of the most boring things i have ever seen. Bring on the Sony and Nintendo conferences!!!!!
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#170 SecretPolice
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First, yeah MS had a few Aces that apperantly were saved for X07.

Second, this was the first day of the show and plenty of time left for some surpises.

Third, Halo 3 was not shown to it's full effect and that is a wise move IMHO but never the less looks like it should be a blast to play in very wide open areas.

Forth, Bizarre is putting out some trully stunning visuals now that they have the time needed and PGR4 will most likely become the best looking racing game ever created upon it's release.

The sum of it all leaves me underwhelmed and MS knows it - conlusion; theres a whole bunch of things left to see at a later date and I'm okay with that.

If the other two console makers dont foul up, they could get alot of milage out of E3 and they better b/c MS is saving up and I have no doubt they will show & tell some big things not yet seen (by most ) before the 07 holliday season.

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#171 colmusterd28
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I had to turn that aweful Rock Band demo down on my tv... I thought my speakers were gonna blow. ugh.

But seriously, I think that what MS did was cater to a new E3 and for the first time, a television audience. They know that this holiday season is going to propell them past PS3 for a very long time or give Sony a chance to make up ground. They showed an AMAZING list of games that anyone with half a brain would be drooling over. Assassins Creed was a show stealer, while Mass Effect and Halo 3 did their "thing." I am dissapointed that we didn't get any "big" announcments but c'mon people, MGS4 is coming to 360 in a timed exclusive and we all know it. No big deal. Over all I'd give MS a solid B for their showing and Peter Moore a god aweful F for his guitar playing...

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#172 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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The conference showed pretty much what we've already seen and blah. RE5 was hot. Gears of War on PC was hot. Not a great showing. Sony and Nintendo. Yer up next!hotdaisy18
They showed RE5? Guess I should have watched.
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#173 NorthlandMan
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[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]The conference showed pretty much what we've already seen and blah. RE5 was hot. Gears of War on PC was hot. Not a great showing. Sony and Nintendo. Yer up next!Jandurin
They showed RE5? Guess I should have watched.

Don't dude.All they showed was some unkown loaction in Africa and a few people runing around in a cutscene. No gameplay. It was not interesting at all (just like the rest of the press conference)

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#174 Bread_or_Decide
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The Good: Halo 3, RE5 teaser, Mass Effect, Assassins Creed.

The Bad: No price drop. No Mgs4. No surprises.

The Ugly: Scene it? Lots of multiplats and a lame attempt to make them sound exclusive.

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#175 playstation2004
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[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]The conference showed pretty much what we've already seen and blah. RE5 was hot. Gears of War on PC was hot. Not a great showing. Sony and Nintendo. Yer up next!Jandurin
They showed RE5? Guess I should have watched.

RE5 was a teaser and that.

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#176 ithilgore2006
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Seeing as unlike Nintendo and Sony, MS had nothing to prove this E3, it was exactly what I expected it to be: Very functional. They showed plenty of information on the games coming out this year, and confirmed 2007 will be a great year for Xbox 360 owners, but the problem is they showed virtually nothing new, other then a blatant rip-off of Nintendo's marketing and idea to appeal to non-gamers. And they still have the problem of not having a showman that's charismatic or particularly fun to watch, like Nintendo do with Reggie. It's evident in the way they switched announcers every few minutes, wheras Reggie would be able to have the stage for most of the show. It doesn't makes theirs a bad conference, just one that's a bit boring in between the trailers. I will say the intro was good, but it dragged on a bit long.

Overall, not a bad conference, it showed what I hoped for, and did it's job, but it didn't show anything really new and was a bit boring in places. Also Peter Moore is an awful singer, so that's taking away marks. I'll give it a 6/10.

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#177 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]The conference showed pretty much what we've already seen and blah. RE5 was hot. Gears of War on PC was hot. Not a great showing. Sony and Nintendo. Yer up next!NorthlandMan

They showed RE5? Guess I should have watched.

Don't dude.All they showed was some unkown loaction in Africa and a few people runing around in a cutscene. No gameplay. It was not interesting at all (just like the rest of the press conference)

Thanks. Exactly what I sought.A summation. With your post and Bread's, I think I've got that.

What the hell is Scene it? Like, that board game with DVDs?

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#178 Dencore
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The Microsoft press conference was rubbish!!!!!!!


and guess what guy?!!!!!!!! you get to download Sonic and Golden Axe!!!!! Wii owners get 10 times better Genesis games and you get Sonic and Golden Axe!!!!! LMFAO. but at least you can download movies right?

NorthlandMan

I seriously :lol: when I saw that. Not only that but it's a tampered "improved" version not the original. WTF I play retro games to play them the way they were released. Screw Sonic 1 I own Sonic 2. ;)

P.S. Post in the xxxCSAxxx :(

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#179 ithilgore2006
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[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]The conference showed pretty much what we've already seen and blah. RE5 was hot. Gears of War on PC was hot. Not a great showing. Sony and Nintendo. Yer up next!Jandurin

They showed RE5? Guess I should have watched.

Don't dude.All they showed was some unkown loaction in Africa and a few people runing around in a cutscene. No gameplay. It was not interesting at all (just like the rest of the press conference)

Thanks. Exactly what I sought.A summation. With your post and Bread's, I think I've got that.

What the hell is Scene it? Like, that board game with DVDs?

That's the one. I was saying to myself during that part "Don't even think of saying that the controller is motion sensing or you're a dead man". Good thing they just settled for the gimmick type controller. A motion sensing one would have drawn some ridiculous amount of backlash.
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#180 grayfox_2k
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IGN's Microsoft Conference Impressions Link

Hint? pretty bad of course

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#181 flazzle
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I was disappointed with MS. It seemed like 80% of the talk was HaloHalo Halo. Makes it sound too much like a one game system.

And I know this has probalby been discussed before in this thread (but I didn't feel like reading it). Anyone else think that Assassins Creed demo was recorded? I cant believe they would leave it up to someone playing, considering their tight time frame.

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#182 Acenso
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[QUOTE="Acenso"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Weaksauce, that's about all I can say. The 360 has a incredible lineup this year.....but we already new that. :| There was just no energy like last year.Tylendal

Pretty much...Lets take the time to show you our line up for this year...We already know you have a fantastic line up. Tell us more about what we dont know. And not a single megaton...except RE5 trailer^_^ Other then that...It was a fairly boring conference. Not bad...just really didnt do anything new. Wasnt worse then SOny's 06...but not nearly as entertaining lol.

I have to say Sony is going to smash this one right though...Wii really doesnt seem to have any vibe for it going. And after this letdown...Sony could show one new game and win it.

All I know is for MS....X07 better be amuzing. We get that you want to show us thier years line up. Okay...Now deliver on the next year and beyond. We are talking Price drop(Should be as soon as possible or now), A peak at the next major XBL updated, An expansion on XBLA that includes games like Monoply as such, Atleast NG2 announce or next Team Ninja game. Score a good exculsive or two and make your own. A more info on Halo Wars, Alan Wake, Fable 2 etc.

That's probably a good thing. 360 had lots of vibe, but when it came time for E3, they discovered that they had used all their good announcements to generate vibe.

P.S. You should put a warning of what sort of spoiler your sig is. Did you get this from some sort of official source, or did you think of it yourself, because the idea is brilliant if so.

Kind of a guess there...it seems to be one of the common ones is all. I originally wanted to make it with a dozen spoilers from different things lol. But for now its just that hehe. And its my guess

Actually...I think they saved up the announcements for X07. They kept saying games out this year. The only one not show that is comming out was RE5 0_0 !!!! So it means they better have a dam good showing at X07.

It was not a bad showing either...something like 7/10. They showed what was comming out. I think it was just because people expected alot more. With E3 from last year and X06. Which both really delivered. This one felt kind of dull.

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#183 FoxHoundADAM
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Unless you are a huge Halo fan it was pretty dissapointing. Maybe this is what we should expect in the future for all E3 press conferences as each of the big 3 now pretty much have their own shows to release the BIG info.
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#184 KodiakGTS
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While I was more than a little let down in the big announcements department, I came away convinced that I'm going to be in the poor house this fall/winter. I think the conference served as a great reminder how many amazing games are coming out for X360 this year.

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#185 Spartan070
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:throwsup:

TrueReligion_

:o I CAN"T FREAKIN WAIT!!!!! I'M PUTTING IT RIGHT NEXT TO MY HALO XBOX!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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#186 AcidRonen
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i'm gonna try and b as unbias as i can with this but i'm still sore with mcrosoft showing yesturday

2.5/10

1 for cod4

1 for ac

.5 for showing part of RE5 and resparking my interest in the game

microsoft could havescoreda lot higher with this but they had made 1 huge mistake too much talking about Halo not enogh actually Halo

they started very strong imo with the live band and then the rock band demostration but in between everthing they showed they started talking bout Halo Halo this and Halo that but when it came down to the end all they had for us was a trailer:|

peter moore even said it himself we'll be able to play Halo3 11 weeks from now. only 11 weeks and all we get was a trailer? come onms why.

if u knew bungie wasnt gonna deliver the goods for E3 u shouldn't have made their game the centerpiece of ur conference.

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#187 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]

:throwsup:

Spartan070

:o I CAN"T FREAKIN WAIT!!!!! I'M PUTTING IT RIGHT NEXT TO MY HALO XBOX!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

But... it's so UGLY :cry:.

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#188 -Spock-
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I didn't watch the event itself but I read the Gamespot coverage and watched all the new trailers. Have they only sold 5.4 million 360s so far or is this a mistake? Because that's not too impressive..

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#189 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]

:throwsup:

Jandurin

:o I CAN"T FREAKIN WAIT!!!!! I'M PUTTING IT RIGHT NEXT TO MY HALO XBOX!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

But... it's so UGLY :cry:.

But...IT"S SO HALO!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D Don't care if it's $500, I promise I'm picking it up day one!:D
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#190 Bread_or_Decide
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Yeah I kept waiting for some Halo footage to blow me away. Didn't happen. Especially with all the Halo talk through out the conference. And I have the game pre-ordered! Come on start hyping me up for the darn thing!
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#191 Spartan070
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WOOT:D WOOT:D WOOT:D WOOT:D WOOT:D WOOT:D *fails in love*

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#192 ithilgore2006
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I didn't watch the event itself but I read the Gamespot coverage and watched all the new trailers. Have they only sold 5.4 million 360s so far or is this a mistake? Because that's not too impressive..

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That was part of the low point of the conference, where they showed a bunch of sales figures from very select areas to show how they were leading. Those the totals for the US sales, they used that to make it seem like they're way ahead of the Wii in sales. It was a bit silly looking to be honest, and not very well disguised.
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#193 HarlockJC
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Yeah I kept waiting for some Halo footage to blow me away. Didn't happen. Especially with all the Halo talk through out the conference. And I have the game pre-ordered! Come on start hyping me up for the darn thing!Bread_or_Decide

I thought Halo 3 looked very good...But then again the conference told me more than ever that I don't need a 360 because I get get all the games I want on the PC

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#194 -Spock-
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[QUOTE="-Spock-"]

I didn't watch the event itself but I read the Gamespot coverage and watched all the new trailers. Have they only sold 5.4 million 360s so far or is this a mistake? Because that's not too impressive..

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That was part of the low point of the conference, where they showed a bunch of sales figures from very select areas to show how they were leading. Those the totals for the US sales, they used that to make it seem like they're way ahead of the Wii in sales. It was a bit silly looking to be honest, and not very well disguised.

That's not too bad then, but it's not fantastic either. I was expecting somewhere in the region of 7-8 million sold in the US, with another 6-7 million sold for the rest of the world.

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Were there ANY surprises or announcements??? Where is the price drop? Where is the HD-DVD 360? Where is the new exclusivity announcement?

All the games are good and all, but the conference just lacked any buzz or excitement.

COD4 probably was the best game shown, imo.

Us Gears (360) fans are getting SCREWED. A whole new act. New multiplayer maps. New multiplayer mode. A level editor. Improved graphics. Probably dedicated servers (eliminating the freakin' bullet lag/host advantage). All to PC.

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#196 HarlockJC
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Were there ANY surprises or announcements??? Where is the price drop? Where is the HD-DVD 360? Where is the new exclusivity announcement?

REVENGEotSITH

You know M$ desided that we did not need to see anything we did not already know about well besides RE5

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#197 Hoffgod
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[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="Banhammer3000"]Maybe you looked the other way :|.Because I saw that Megaton Loud and Clear.Banhammer3000

And that megaton would be... what? I saw the whole conference and saw nothing that even borders on a megaton.

So you didn't get exited a little?.Not even Resident evil 5 put a smile in your face?...Wow.

Yeah, RE5 put a smile on my face (that game looks awesome BTW), but a 30 second clip? I don't quite catagorize that as a megaton. I save that term for something like, say, the GTA announcement last year, or if MS had announced MGS for the 360 this year, or something of that magnatude. That extra "wow" to put the "mega" in the megaton. It wasn't terrible, there were some good points, but all-in-all, it was just a big letdown.
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[QUOTE="Banhammer3000"]

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="Banhammer3000"]Maybe you looked the other way :|.Because I saw that Megaton Loud and Clear.Hoffgod

And that megaton would be... what? I saw the whole conference and saw nothing that even borders on a megaton.

So you didn't get exited a little?.Not even Resident evil 5 put a smile in your face?...Wow.

Yeah, RE5 put a smile on my face (that game looks awesome BTW), but a 30 second clip? I don't quite catagorize that as a megaton. I save that term for something like, say, the GTA announcement last year, or if MS had announced MGS for the 360 this year, or something of that magnatude. That extra "wow" to put the "mega" in the megaton. It wasn't terrible, there were some good points, but all-in-all, it was just a big letdown.

i Think we all held our throats when we saw that RE5 trailor.I bet everyone thought it ws MGS at first.
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#199 agentfred
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Mediocre. I hope the others are better though.
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#200 gingerdivid
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It seems the lemkids have counted their chickens early, considering this showing was worse than Sony's 2006 showing. The godly Killzone trailer alone beat M$ this year.....