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#51 thrones
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Heydanbud92"] genre has nothing to do with how good a game is, nor does the idea.Heydanbud92

Ummmm What are you talking about?

i'm just referring to when you said he likes the genre and the idea, and how irrelevant that is to how good a game is. looking at videos is a better way of telling how good a game will be.

for instance haze is in a genre with alot of great games, and it had a pretty cool idea (to alot of people) but it flopped horribly. not to mention it had great developers too. on the other hand whenever a video was released people saw it for what it was (mostly)... a mediocre boring game.

Haze is a shooter. Flops are subjective. The genre for Too Human is not THAT varied. I was trying to speak from subrosian's perspective instead of a general. Anything else?

I know. I'm just saying my main point is that gameplay videos are better then the things you listed for making judgments about how good you think a game will be IMO. that's all.

We have a demo, let's judge using that ._.
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#52 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I know. I'm just saying my main point is that gameplay videos are better then the things you listed for making judgments about how good you think a game will be IMO. that's all.

Heydanbud92
I hear you, I just disagree. For me, genre is utmost importance. How am I going to like a game in a genre I don't like? Secondly, the if the idea sucks, the game sucks, in my experience. Third, videos SUCK and I hate trying to form opinions based on that. How can you tell if your heart would be racing while playing a game UNLESS you're controlling it? Watching videos to determine game quality is no better than looking at screenshots. Well, it's slightly better, but I'm exaggerating to make a point.
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#53 Heydanbud92
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We have a demo, let's judge using that ._.thrones

lol good point...

but i CAN'T damnit not a gold member...

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#54 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]im still downloading it... its at 33%... I hope to do a complete playthrough before the press conference... how long is it?wolverine4262

I'm at 3% :cry:

For!

Im at 51%, now.... All your bandwith are belong to me!

Finally I is done.

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#55 -Karmum-
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Going to download the demo now, hasn't impressed me so far (from what I have seen in videos/pictures).
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#56 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="thrones"]We have a demo, let's judge using that ._.Heydanbud92

lol good point...

but i CAN'T damnit not a gold member...

I can't, because my tv went out on Sunday :cry:
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#57 wolverine4262
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]im still downloading it... its at 33%... I hope to do a complete playthrough before the press conference... how long is it?SSCyborg

I'm at 3% :cry:

For!

Im at 51%, now.... All your bandwith are belong to me!

Finally I is done.

wtf!? Mine is still going.... you must have a way better connection.. its at 98%...
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#58 Heydanbud92
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[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]

[QUOTE="thrones"]We have a demo, let's judge using that ._.Jandurin

lol good point...

but i CAN'T damnit not a gold member...

I can't, because my tv went out on Sunday :cry:

please don't tell me it was an HD set... :shock:

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#59 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]im still downloading it... its at 33%... I hope to do a complete playthrough before the press conference... how long is it?wolverine4262

I'm at 3% :cry:

For!

Im at 51%, now.... All your bandwith are belong to me!

Finally I is done.

wtf!? Mine is still going.... you must have a way better connection.. its at 98%...

Haha! All your bandwith are belong to me.

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#60 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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please don't tell me it was an HD set... :shock:

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46" HDtv :( It's alright, it's just the bulb. I even have a warranty. It'll just take awhile to find the receipt :(
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#61 SoaSE_General
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People still care about this terrible game?
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#62 Evz0rz
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Just finished the demo and I must say I was impressed. I always thought the game looked good, but I was a bit skepticle. I like how deep the game feels, but also very accessible. The story seems very interesting and I'm excited to continue through it when the game releases. I will definitely pick this game up on day one.

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#63 st1ka
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[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]so you guys are still sticking to your predictions?subrosian

Yes, we're predicting reviewers will fail to score the game as highly as we'd like, and that haters will say nasty things about the game :P

[QUOTE="subrosian"]Additionally, the honorable Mr. Dyack is a member of GameSpot, so trolling him is equivalent to trolling any other user and will be enforced as such. Jandurin
LOL WUT? Who is he?

You'll see if he ever decides to come on and post himself. After the NeoGAF... incident... I'm not certain that he will choose to come on a forum. Dyack has made comments suggesting that it's not all that useful to do so, because even though fans enjoy it, you get a lot of people who just want to attack a developer, and a big media frenzy around it. I also think he'd like the focus to be on the game and not him, if that makes sense?

whoa? thats awesome :O

Mr. Dyack if youre watching this please please make a game about porn and fried chicken, it will be a multi-million hit, i promise :P

seriously now, i hope that in retail version they fix the poor A.I. for your teamates and the lack of "oomph" in your weapons

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#64 lolkie_81
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The demo was better than I was expecting, but I wasnt expecting much. I really think the biggest mistake they made was using the right analog stick for combat. It just not fun that way. Camera sucks, worse than the the first NG. The combat sucks about as much as we all thought it would from the vids. I will probley pick this up anyway, the story seems like it will be good. I think it will score between a 8.0 and 8.5
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#65 lolkie_81
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It seems no one on Gs cares about this game, only a few. On neogaf they have a tread like this that is over 20 pages and still going. No one is posting here.:(
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#66 subrosian
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It seems no one on Gs cares about this game, only a few. On neogaf they have a tread like this that is over 20 pages and still going. No one is posting here.:(lolkie_81

That's because NeoGAF has been hating on it for so long - whereas here haters saw the demo and backed down.

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#67 lolkie_81
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[QUOTE="lolkie_81"]It seems no one on Gs cares about this game, only a few. On neogaf they have a tread like this that is over 20 pages and still going. No one is posting here.:(subrosian

That's because NeoGAF has been hating on it for so long - whereas here haters saw the demo and backed down.

Backed down? The demo was better than I was expecting but the combat sucks as bad as it looked in the vids. Right analog stick for combat = fail. Seems it would be better to me with 2 buttons like gow and ng. Could have used the analog stick for evading like other games. Just dosent seem fun the way it is.

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#68 subrosian
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What on earth are you talking about? The combat is utterly fantastic. It's amazing how much you can do with the analog stick that would have been impossible with a conventional control scheme. This is a brilliant use of the 360 controller.
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i thought it was pretty fun.. at first I didnt think i would buy it, but as i neered the end of the demo, I really started enjoying the combat...it gets very fast....
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#70 subrosian
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i thought it was pretty fun.. at first I didnt think i would buy it, but as i neered the end of the demo, I really started enjoying the combat...it gets very fast....wolverine4262

Yeah :)

It's a lot of fun when you start getting the extra abilities, I was really sad when I walked through that door and it was over - it was like "I have $60, in cash, right here, please, let me keep playing!"

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#71 ironcreed
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It certainly is a unique game that feels completely different from the usual fare....that's for sure. While I was really put off by the melee being on the right analog stick at first, by the end of the demo, I started getting used to it and can see how it could get very addicting.

Once you start going through the customization and skill tree screens, you can tell that this is a game that a demo will not do much justice to, as the fun will be found when you start getting your character leveled up do a decent level. By which time, you should have a good grasp of the combat, and will have unlocked and learned many different combos as well.

No, the graphics are not up to snuff, but they are tolerable and some of the artwork is very nice. The camera does a really good job while in combat, and feels kind of like the camera in Eternal Darkness when you are walking around. People complaining about the character models have obviously forgotten Halo 3. Too Human's are much better, and the animation is about on par with Halo 3 as well.

All in all, I can tell that the demo did not even scratch the surface of what the game itself will offer in terms of what you can do combat wise and leveling up wise. And I can also tell that this is a game that will quickly become very addictive and very satisfying once the nuances of the gameplay are learned and once you start getting your character leveled up. Not to mention that it is a different experience than anything out right now, and that is definitely another plus in my books.

As far as scores go, I could really care less, but I am expecting the reviews to be just as polarizing as the previews. Some will love it for being different and some will despise it just because it is different and also because it does not have "Teh shInEH GrAFFiX." But, I fully expect it to have a loyal following that will love it and consider it to be a highly misunderstood game that most did not even give a fair shake. Cannot wait for the full release myself.
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It certainly is a unique game that feels completely different from the usual fare....that's for sure. While I was really put off by the melee being on the right analog stick at first, by the end of the demo, I started getting used to it and can see how it could get very addicting.

Once you start going through the customization and skill tree screens, you can tell that this is a game that a demo will not do much justice to, as the fun will be found when you start getting your character leveled up do a decent level. By which time, you should have a good grasp of the combat, and will have unlocked and learned many different combos as well.

No, the graphics are not up to snuff, but they are tolerable and some of the artwork is very nice. The camera does a really good job while in combat, and feels kind of like the camera in Eternal Darkness when you are walking around. People complaining about the character models have obviously forgotten Halo 3. Too Human's are much better, and the animation is about on par with Halo 3 as well.

All in all, I can tell that the demo did not even scratch the surface of what the game itself will offer in terms of what you can do combat wise and leveling up wise. And I can also tell that this is a game that will quickly become very addictive and very satisfying once the nuances of the gameplay are learned and once you start getting your character leveled up. Not to mention that it is a different experience than anything out right now, and that is definitely another plus in my books.

As far as scores go, I could really care less, but I am expecting the reviews to be just as polarizing as the previews. Some will love it for being different and some will despise it just because it is different and also because it does not have "Teh shInEH GrAFFiX." But, I fully expect it to have a loyal following that will love it and consider it to be a highly misunderstood game that most did not even give a fair shake. Cannot wait for the full release myself. ironcreed

So new Killer7?

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#73 subrosian
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So new Killer7?

insanejedi

A lot like a new Eternal Darkness really. When that game came out a lot of people didnt "get it" and yet now there's all this respect for what it did - kind of that way.

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#74 Jenova_Flare
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I really enjoyed it actually. Took about 10 minutes to get used to not using the right stick to look around, but afterward I had fun. The loot and levelling up will obviously be pretty addictive. Story seems lame, as do the characters. The three sisters in cyberspace have to be the most uninspired characters ever...

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#75 ironcreed
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[QUOTE="insanejedi"]

So new Killer7?

subrosian

A lot like a new Eternal Darkness really. When that game came out a lot of people didnt "get it" and yet now there's all this respect for what it did - kind of that way.

Would have to agree. As soon as I started walking around, the camera immediately felt like Eternal Darkness to me. Which is what I was hoping they would implement, especially beings that the melee is mapped to the right analog stick. I also appreciate the fact that you can adjust the zoom with the D-pad. It seems to really be a nice aid when surrounded by swarming foes.

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#76 Big_Boss465
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I'm surprised I liked it as much as I did. I was expecting this game to be mediocre, but found the gameplay to actually feel quite deep. This went from a pass to a potential buy. The fact that I want to play the demo again says a lot.
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#77 subrosian
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I'm surprised I liked it as much as I did. I was expecting this game to be mediocre, but found the gameplay to actually feel quite deep. This went from a pass to a potential buy. The fact that I want to play the demo again says a lot.Big_Boss465

I feel like people have really missed out on how deep the game is because of the hatred that game from E3 2006. Playing is believing, but unfortunately not everyone will give it an open mind as you have here. I feel the combat speaks for itself, once you start exploring all the different tricks and abilities you can use. Won't be everyone's cup of tea, but I had a blast, glad to hear you're enjoying it.

That said - August 17th seems quite far away all of a sudden.

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#78 lawlessx
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X-play is about to talk about Too human!

GO WATCH!

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#79 ironcreed
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X-play is about to talk about Too human!

GO WATCH!

lawlessx

Tuned in.:D

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#80 I_Helios_I
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Too Human was a hyped AA was it not? If the demo is any indication of what the game itself will be in its entirety I think it will live up to the AA status easily.
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#81 Ingenemployee
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http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/splash/t/toohuman/

Awesome the site is up

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#82 PBSnipes
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I was pleasently suprised by the demo. I figured the combat would be like Diablo without the clicking noises, but it was suprisingly deep and nuanced. The control scheme certainly requires some learning and I never felt like I had mastered the controls, but I was flying around the battlefield kicking ass and taking names by the end of the demo. Add in what should be one of the best stories of the year and even more customization and Too Human looks like a winner.
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#83 subrosian
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Yeah the site has been up today, it's quite nice.
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#84 HarlockJC
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Yeah the site has been up today, it's quite nice.subrosian

So subrosian was this your 10,000 post

The game does look good I hope it does not fail. I love Sk and don't want to see them be hurt by this.

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#85 mismajor99
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I liked the demo very much, played through it twice. I don't particularly like the fact that you don't have control of the camera, but I got used to it after a bit. The menu system could run a bit faster, but other then that I found it had a lot of potential. The only thing that gets me nervous is what Garnett Lee said last week on 1up yours podcast, after 10 hours of play, he wasn't impressed, and he was a fan of the game going in. His major complaint was that the tilesets are very bland and are basically the same setting, over and over and over again with little variation. This was basically the problem with Hellgate, not enough tilesets to keep it fresh. Either way, I think I'm sold on this game, I need something to play on my big screen soon. Too Human and Space Siege for the PC this summer, and I'll have my RPG fix for sure...
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#86 subrosian
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[QUOTE="subrosian"]Yeah the site has been up today, it's quite nice.HarlockJC

So subrosian was this your 10,000 post

The game does look good I hope it does not fail. I love Sk and don't want to see them be hurt by this.

Hah, no, my 10,000th post lurks elsewhere, set aside for a rainy day when E3 isn't happening. The board is too crowded right now for my 10,000th post celebration - we'll have it after things settle down post-E3.

-

And I have played the demo twice, and greatly enjoyed it - I capture a little video footage of my second playthrough, but I didn't use my spider or fight any enemies, so it's nothing really much yet.

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#87 cjnwo4life
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The demo did what it was made to do, get me to want this game and preorder it and make sure to buy it day of launch. This demo was great, it was fun, it was action packed, it looked AWESOME and i want more. Great experience!
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#88 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"]Yeah the site has been up today, it's quite nice.subrosian

So subrosian was this your 10,000 post

The game does look good I hope it does not fail. I love Sk and don't want to see them be hurt by this.

Hah, no, my 10,000th post lurks elsewhere, set aside for a rainy day when E3 isn't happening. The board is too crowded right now for my 10,000th post celebration - we'll have it after things settle down post-E3.

-

And I have played the demo twice, and greatly enjoyed it - I capture a little video footage of my second playthrough, but I didn't use my spider or fight any enemies, so it's nothing really much yet.

by the end of E3 it might be 11,000

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#89 dracula_16
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Holy cow is that demo ever bad. The voice acting is awesome but the camera is off in many cases, it has mindless combat, the facial animations are lousy. You can beat the demo just by flailing the right stick around like a mad man. I'd give the demo a 5/10. 10 years of development wasted.

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#90 SecretPolice
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Okay, so I played the demo and for me.........

The absolute best friggin demo I ever played in my life and if we rated demo's I would give this one a 11/10 ! No kidding.

If Too human retained the 4 player Co-op; there is no doubt in my mind the game would be scored AAA, as it stands it's high AA I'm certain.

The visuals were awesome for this type of game, the characters and setting as well and the new control set up is stellar.

No joke, this game rocks and believe it or not, for me, it all looks & works better then I ever hoped and Man did I have high hopes.

At least a 2 to 3 hundred hours gaming bliss for me after the game hits the street !

If you can't tell, I loved it and will be my most played game until Too Human 2 is done. :D

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#91 MyopicCanadian
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Well I completely underestimated this game. I didn't believe the hype at all, and I knew the game was just going to be a hack and slash, and I was right to a degree... what I didn't realize is how much fun it was going to be despite being just a hack and slash ;)

I only read about glitching the other classes this morning, so I haven't had a chance to try the others out. But so far the game is really cool. The story got me into the game from the get-go, and the mix of close and ranged combat that the champion provides is interesting.

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#92 Oriental_Jams
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I was pretty keen on the demo, the RS combat got a bit of taking used to, but it was eventually pretty fun, the skill tree was easy to use and so was the equipment menu, the graphics were good too, so overall I was quite impressed. A possible purchase.
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#93 Dreams-Visions
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I hear the more you play it, teh better it gets.
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#94 musicalmac  Moderator
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I hear the more you play it, teh better it gets.Dreams-Visions
You would have heard correctly.
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#95 Cyberfairy
Member since 2003 • 5180 Posts
It reminds me of Phantasy Star, but alot better. Looks interesting.
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#96 JediRiff
Member since 2007 • 2159 Posts

Quick question... has anyone heard about trouble getting the demo to start? I get to the start screen, and when I hit the start button.... nothing. I have deleted and reinstalled the demo three times, and I get the same thing. Its about to drive me crazy, because I really want to play this thing!!! Any help?

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#97 Willy105
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They have a live demo of Too Human on G4 right now.
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#98 EuroMafia
Member since 2008 • 7026 Posts
This sticky is a waste of space IMO.
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#100 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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This sticky is a waste of space IMO.EuroMafia
With nintendo and sony coming up? I agree.