One thing for sure, PSN download speeds are horrid compared to Xbox Live's.

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#101 iowastate
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xbl is faster and installs at the same time.

gamer4life85
so does PSN and the speed depends on many variables ....mainly the server. you can not call either xbl or PSN or Windows instrinsically "faster" or "slower"....if I had to go with one of them though it would be Windows Live.
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#102 boyinfridge
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[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

[QUOTE="navstar29"]Yeah its honestly horrendous, my max download speed is 1.2MB/s (10Mbit connection) and on psn i ALWAYS get 1.2MB/s, what a horrendous serv- oh wait :P

I've never understood these claims. navstar29

What dont you understand I will gladly inform you.

I hit my max bandwidth on PSN, as does everyone I know, with faster and slower services than mine ... what I don't understand is what you are doing to not hit it

I dont have a monthly bandwidth limit so I never hit anything. Not everybody has limits on there broadband service.

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#103 hiryu3
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I have a 20/5 FIOS connection and I get 15/4 from my PS3. So that makes me think:
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#104 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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[QUOTE="navstar29"][QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

What dont you understand I will gladly inform you.

boyinfridge

I hit my max bandwidth on PSN, as does everyone I know, with faster and slower services than mine ... what I don't understand is what you are doing to not hit it

I dont have a monthly bandwidth limit so I never hit anything. Not everybody has limits on there broadband service.

Not in terms of bandwidth limit but bandwidth speed.
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#105 forza420
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[QUOTE="forza420"][QUOTE="coolkid93"]I do agree that my 360 can download faster than my ps3. With my 360 I can download games while I'm playing one without having to be at the menu to do so and I don't have to install it afterwards. I still like PSN better though. I can send a picture to someone for free on PSN. With LIVE, you have to be a "gold" member. It's based on personal opinion but still; my ps3 might not have cross chat but It can do everything else (and more) than the 360 can and it's all free. BTW, people don't hate on the ps3 because it has an internet browser and the 360 doesn't. I don't see "many reasons why Xbox live is better than PSN". If I wanted to get on twitter or facebook (which I don't care for nor have an account with them), I don't have to pay a subscription, I can just go on the internet browser on my ps3 and do so. Sure it might not be capable of going to every single website but at least it has a web browser. FOR FREE. If M$ even had one they'd most likely, as always say, "you must be a gold member". M$ is being greedy in my opinion. The 360 is more expensive than the ps3. They charge you for everything. ultraking

one thing i do like about Ps3 is i dont get charged for themes/gamerpics unlike 360. Me: "Hey, i like that Bioshock theme and gamerpics! i want it!" Microsoft: " Really? ok, its 250 MS points for teh Theme and 80 MS points for teh gamerpics." Me: ..... :?

you get charged for themes on 360?!? really? thats strange. Theres thousands of free themes for ps3

exactly. MS charges 250 points for themes and 80 MS points for Gamerpics. thats a bit shady on their part IMO
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#106 Ringx55
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I have a 20/5 FIOS connection and I get 15/4 from my PS3. So that makes me think:hiryu3
Wireless, wired..? Servers slow that day? too many people downloading the same thing same time...? Too many variables to say which one is truly faster.
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#107 Pbjb989
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I hear alot about this issue, many people complain about demos taking days and days to download. Never hear complaints about online lag (exclusives seem to have brilliant connection). I'm pretty sure the problem is hit and miss as I get 10mb download speed on my PS3, others get 0.1mb.

Maybe router related?

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#108 ProjectNatalFan
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I hear alot about this issue, many people complain about demos taking days and days to download. Never hear complaints about online lag (exclusives seem to have brilliant connection). I'm pretty sure the problem is hit and miss as I get 10mb download speed on my PS3, others get 0.1mb.

Maybe router related?

Pbjb989

i work in the field, my lan port is tested for 35/35 and gets actually 36/36 and then use the same lan wired port for the PS3 and i get 7/2 if IM lucky, and to be honest the dowloading of demos are slow like the test indicates. I absolutely fly on downloading on the 360. I know everything there is to know about my actiontech router and trust me its not the router. Its PSN, and its a KNOWN problem, some people are lucky and get the right speed with their PS3, but alot dont and have to deal with it like myself.

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#110 coolkid93
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[QUOTE="forza420"][QUOTE="ultraking"]

one thing i do like about Ps3 is i dont get charged for themes/gamerpics unlike 360. Me: "Hey, i like that Bioshock theme and gamerpics! i want it!" Microsoft: " Really? ok, its 250 MS points for teh Theme and 80 MS points for teh gamerpics." Me: ..... :?forza420
you get charged for themes on 360?!? really? thats strange. Theres thousands of free themes for ps3

exactly. MS charges 250 points for themes and 80 MS points for Gamerpics. thats a bit shady on their part IMO

That sucks.
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#111 godzillavskong
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[QUOTE="big_orc"][QUOTE="godzillavskong"]

Or because im not a noob and use ventrilo. Xbox live has awful sound quality, and the mics are crap. PSN sounds better then xbox live, because you can use any USB microphone and not the crappy one u get from microsoft.big_orc
My experiences on Xbox Live have always had excellent sound quality, and really no issues with the mic.

xbox live sound quality is horrible, I dont know what you are smoking, but it does not compare to ventrilo at all.

My sound quality is fine, I don't know what your smoking, but mine plays fine, and also, I don't really know wtf ventrilo is, so there!
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#112 godzillavskong
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I have both and the 360 is way faster

RyanShazam
Agreed. This is one of the areas that the 360 is superior to the PS3, but PS3 fanboys hate to admit it. The PSN is fine, but it isn't even half of the quality of Xbox Live, not yet. I guess that's why its free!
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#113 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

I have both and the 360 is way faster

godzillavskong

Agreed. This is one of the areas that the 360 is superior to the PS3, but PS3 fanboys hate to admit it. The PSN is fine, but it isn't even half of the quality of Xbox Live, not yet. I guess that's why its free!

hardcore cows can deny all they want, but i have downloaded the exact same games on PSN and XBL. PSN usually takes twice as long.

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#114 RogueShodown
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

I have both and the 360 is way faster

godzillavskong

Agreed. This is one of the areas that the 360 is superior to the PS3, but PS3 fanboys hate to admit it. The PSN is fine, but it isn't even half of the quality of Xbox Live, not yet. I guess that's why its free!

hardcore cows can deny all they want, but i have downloaded the exact same games on PSN and XBL. PSN usually takes twice as long.


See, the thing is, it doesn't matter.

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#115 finalstar2007
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I use PSN all the time, downloading a full game only takes 1 minute or somtimes 2. no more than 5, or that agrest wars the 9GB game took me half hour or i think 45 minutes but it didnt take longer than an hour thats for sure as i kept it donwloading, PSN speed is fine, if you have a crappy connection it will take a while, it depends on your connection

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#116 godzillavskong
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[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

I have both and the 360 is way faster

RogueShodown

Agreed. This is one of the areas that the 360 is superior to the PS3, but PS3 fanboys hate to admit it. The PSN is fine, but it isn't even half of the quality of Xbox Live, not yet. I guess that's why its free!

hardcore cows can deny all they want, but i have downloaded the exact same games on PSN and XBL. PSN usually takes twice as long.


See, the thing is, it doesn't matter.

Yeah, agreed. I don't think it is really that big of an issue. While I prefer Xbox Live over the PSN, it's not really to say that its a horrible service. Its getting better and will continue to get better, its just one of the areas where the 360 has an advantage. PS3 has built in wireless, bluray, etc.., whereas the 360 has a better online service going for it.

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#117 godzillavskong
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[QUOTE="forza420"][QUOTE="ultraking"]

one thing i do like about Ps3 is i dont get charged for themes/gamerpics unlike 360. Me: "Hey, i like that Bioshock theme and gamerpics! i want it!" Microsoft: " Really? ok, its 250 MS points for teh Theme and 80 MS points for teh gamerpics." Me: ..... :?forza420
you get charged for themes on 360?!? really? thats strange. Theres thousands of free themes for ps3

exactly. MS charges 250 points for themes and 80 MS points for Gamerpics. thats a bit shady on their part IMO

They do charge for premium th emes, but there are tons of free ones out there. You can also use any pics or wallpapers you get off your pc,if there on the same network, to theme your 360 as well. I like to pull some off the Marvel website, and then put on my 360.
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#118 Tyrant156
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People just don't know how to adjust their router, if you're getting slow psn d/l speeds try putting the PS3 outside the firewall or adjusting your computers firewall if it runs through both. I use to get 7mb/2mb too untill I adjsut the firewall of my router. My home has 2 wireless laptops and 2 ps3s online one wired and one wireless. I put them bouth outside the firewall and the hardwired runs at 12mb/3mb and wireless 10mb/2.5mb. I never downloaded a demo that took over 7 to 10 mins unless if was the very first day the demo was released.

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#119 gago-gago
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Yeah PSN downloads are really slow compared to XBL downloads and on top of that when the item is finish downloading for the PSN, you have to wait again for it to install. Also what's pretty weak with PSN, is if you download the item on the background, you think your item is finish downloading but nope, you have to confirm to install it and wait some more.

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#120 danish-death
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[QUOTE="big_orc"][QUOTE="BioDogshock"] Party chat isn't useless to me. Oh. Unless you have no friends which i am assuming of you.WilliamRLBaker

Or because im not a noob and use ventrilo. Xbox live has awful sound quality, and the mics are crap. PSN sounds better then xbox live, because you can use any USB microphone and not the crappy one u get from microsoft.

um....wrong? first you cannot use any usb powered mic on the ps3, you can use the majority of bluetooth headsets though. and the headset you get with the 360 which is a 2.5 inch mic sounds fine, the wireless 360 mic is awesome in both sound quality and ergonomics. The wireless official bluetooth ps3 headset is great in sound but is one of the most horribly ergonomically designed headsets ever, you don't create something that goes into the soft sensitive ear and on it that is nothing but hard angles which the official ps3 one is...its nothing but hard angles.

Wrong.

I use this http://www.steelseries.com/news/press_releases/steelseries_introduces_new_siberia_v2_headsetwith the USB soundcard - it work fine I just had to buy an adaptor for my receiver and mess with the input/outputoption on my PS3. It works wonders.

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#121 danish-death
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[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

[QUOTE="RogueShodown"]


I really hope you're trolling because you're very good at proving your point.

Gxgear

read the thread, many more agree than disagree, also you obviously are a sony fanboy who doesnt like to hear the facts. Im not trolling I am bringing up something that is better on live than PSN. If anyone is being disrespectful its you.

*Looks at user name*

ROFL

It took me an hour to download Wipeout HD (1 GB) a day or 2 ago, seems pretty reasonable.

It took me 3-5 minutes downloading the latest BC2 patch today (roughly 300MB) - that's reasonable. 1 hour for 1GB is.. slow o_0

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#122 leperphiliac
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I do experience far more connection problems with PSN over Live. I guess you get what you pay for.
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#123 tempest91
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I would pay money for PSN to have faster downloads. The latest update for MLB 10 the Show took way too long.

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#124 xhawk27
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Yeah I know for a fact that downloading on PSN isslower than XBL.

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#125 110million
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I would pay money for PSN to have faster downloads. The latest update for MLB 10 the Show took way too long.

tempest91
Why not spend the money on faster internet?
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#126 tempest91
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

I would pay money for PSN to have faster downloads. The latest update for MLB 10 the Show took way too long.

110million

Why not spend the money on faster internet?

Nice one, but my internet is plenty fast for xbox live, netflix on my bluray player, steam, etc. It only struggles with PSN. The process of elimination reveals the truth.

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#127 Leo-Magic
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PSN trophy is a joke. it takes forever to show up.
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#128 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Pbjb989"]

I hear alot about this issue, many people complain about demos taking days and days to download. Never hear complaints about online lag (exclusives seem to have brilliant connection). I'm pretty sure the problem is hit and miss as I get 10mb download speed on my PS3, others get 0.1mb.

Maybe router related?

ProjectNatalFan

i work in the field, my lan port is tested for 35/35 and gets actually 36/36 and then use the same lan wired port for the PS3 and i get 7/2 if IM lucky, and to be honest the dowloading of demos are slow like the test indicates. I absolutely fly on downloading on the 360. I know everything there is to know about my actiontech router and trust me its not the router. Its PSN, and its a KNOWN problem, some people are lucky and get the right speed with their PS3, but alot dont and have to deal with it like myself.

That's great, but there are settings in the ps3 itself. Your settings might need to be adjusted to properly take advantage of your speeds, as I had to do with mine. Automatic got it working, but it wasn't properly fine tuned.

I bet most people with problems have never looked into it before writing it off as broken, but whatever.

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#129 Tyrant156
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Yeah seems to me the only time PSN runs slow is when you also have Live hooked up as well. They probably conflict with each other.

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#130 iowastate
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[QUOTE="Pbjb989"]

I hear alot about this issue, many people complain about demos taking days and days to download. Never hear complaints about online lag (exclusives seem to have brilliant connection). I'm pretty sure the problem is hit and miss as I get 10mb download speed on my PS3, others get 0.1mb.

Maybe router related?

ProjectNatalFan

i work in the field, my lan port is tested for 35/35 and gets actually 36/36 and then use the same lan wired port for the PS3 and i get 7/2 if IM lucky, and to be honest the dowloading of demos are slow like the test indicates. I absolutely fly on downloading on the 360. I know everything there is to know about my actiontech router and trust me its not the router. Its PSN, and its a KNOWN problem, some people are lucky and get the right speed with their PS3, but alot dont and have to deal with it like myself.

known to who ... as far as I have been able to tell it is known to you. to everyone else it depends on the server.
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#131 iowastate
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

I would pay money for PSN to have faster downloads. The latest update for MLB 10 the Show took way too long.

tempest91

Why not spend the money on faster internet?

Nice one, but my internet is plenty fast for xbox live, netflix on my bluray player, steam, etc. It only struggles with PSN. The process of elimination reveals the truth.

you most likely need to adjust the setting in your PS3
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#132 tempest91
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="110million"] Why not spend the money on faster internet? iowastate

Nice one, but my internet is plenty fast for xbox live, netflix on my bluray player, steam, etc. It only struggles with PSN. The process of elimination reveals the truth.

you most likely need to adjust the setting in your PS3

All ports for PSN are open on my router, all settings seem to be fine, unless it has capped bandwidth for some odd reason.

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#133 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="godzillavskong"]

I haven't been on the PSN in a while, but I do remember having a bit of an issue trying to get online with MGS4. I noticed also that after you download either a demo or theme, you have to install it. So after downloading takes a while, then you have to wait to install as well. It may have gotten better since the last time I was on, but Xbox Live does seem a lotquicker. I guess you aren't getting charged for the PSN so you really can't complain.

ProjectNatalFan

yes for sure Xbox live is alot quicker in my experiences, I guess you get what you pay for.

so why does steam have no problem downloading a whole (10gb) game in a few hours then if you have the connection speed?
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#134 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

So how did you check the 360's browser?.......... :|

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Psn browser is horrible Just use your gosh darn pc for internet browsing. Psn imo sucks compared to xbox live its like comparing a banana and an orange everybody knows bananas suck (psn) and EVERYBODY loves oranges. 99% of people love oranges. Every person i've met loves oranges

yeah pretty sad the ingame steam browser runs much much better than the ps3 one.
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#135 xbox360isgr8t
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for the short time that i had my ps3 i thought the dl speeds were absolutely insane. They were so slow compared to live. anyone that doesnt think so is just being a fanboy.
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#136 iowastate
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[QUOTE="iowastate"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

Nice one, but my internet is plenty fast for xbox live, netflix on my bluray player, steam, etc. It only struggles with PSN. The process of elimination reveals the truth.

tempest91

you most likely need to adjust the setting in your PS3

All ports for PSN are open on my router, all settings seem to be fine, unless it has capped bandwidth for some odd reason.

do you reset the router once in awhile? if there is a problem with the speed of your downloads and you have the settings correct it must be the server.
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#137 tempest91
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="iowastate"] you most likely need to adjust the setting in your PS3iowastate

All ports for PSN are open on my router, all settings seem to be fine, unless it has capped bandwidth for some odd reason.

do you reset the router once in awhile? if there is a problem with the speed of your downloads and you have the settings correct it must be the server.

I reset my router every once in a while when it acts up, just seems weird that PSN is the only thing that downloads slow. My speed test on PSN always says something like 700k, where as XBL and Steam are like 2-4MB. I'm going to get a new router soon anyways, maybe that will perform better.

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#138 Loco_Live
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Free & Wi-Fi = PS3

Costly & Ethernet cable = 360

Are you really surprised at which one is faster?

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#139 ShadowriverUB
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Just do a bandwidth test on your PS3 in the network menu. You will probably run like crap. I have a 35/35 Fios connection and I work for Verizon Fios and I test the same lan port for 35/35 everytime and then put it on the PS3 and do the bandwidth test and I get like 7mb 2mb up if im lucky, lol, and I run like it. IF I go to the brower in PSN I run 25/25 which is still 10 less than I should be running but ok, no wonder why it takes me 30 mins to download modracers and like 3 minute to download the same size file on xbox live, and its consistant. Also this bandwidth problem that I just told you about is a "known" problem and no update has yet been installed to fix or patch the problem. Some PS3's actually run at what they are supposed too, but the only way is to check yourself. Another of many reason why Xbox live is better than PSN.

ProjectNatalFan

Browser in PSN? lol when do you guys finally understand that PSN and Live is just Internet service not network seperated from Internet. Consoles ethernet component can do the same things as PC and connect to everthing in Internet

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#140 Pug-Nasty
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That thing in the network settings that checks your speed is off by a lot. It says it's an estimate, but it may as well not exist given how off it is. I checked that and it said 2.2 Mbps. I checked Speedtest.net on the browser and 28.8 Mbps. So, I wouldn't go off that thing, check the browser. If it's still off, dmz the thing.

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#141 racing1750
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This is true.
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#142 urdead18
Member since 2008 • 3630 Posts

I get 1-1.3mps on PSN..I don't see that as slow.

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#143 Donkey_King
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Not slow for me on both consoles so not sure what TC is talking about... :|
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#144 tumle
Member since 2004 • 1274 Posts

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

I have both and the 360 is way faster

Fizzman

Agreed. This is one of the areas that the 360 is superior to the PS3, but PS3 fanboys hate to admit it. The PSN is fine, but it isn't even half of the quality of Xbox Live, not yet. I guess that's why its free!

hardcore cows can deny all they want, but i have downloaded the exact same games on PSN and XBL. PSN usually takes twice as long.

and If you read the posts in this thread you would notice that its not all that have that problem, and its usually more of a problem with the server you connect to in you re area.

I have exactly the same banwith on psn and xboxlive and they can both fluxuate when the servers are heavely hit.

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#145 walkingdream
Member since 2009 • 4883 Posts
Yup my PS3 takes much longer (although its on wireless ATM, but i tested it on wired). Just fact it's no real concern however.
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#146 seano3365
Member since 2008 • 25 Posts

i really haven't compared the two.. if the ps3 is slower when it comes to downloading demos, videos and such then i'm willing to wait :-) since i made the choice to buy a ps3 i may as well enjoy its perks ! can't say it has that many cons to be honest !! :D

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#147 Fumpa
Member since 2003 • 3307 Posts

[QUOTE="BioDogshock"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

So how did you check the 360's browser?.......... :|

ermacness

Psn browser is horrible Just use your gosh darn pc for internet browsing. Psn imo sucks compared to xbox live its like comparing a banana and an orange everybody knows bananas suck (psn) and EVERYBODY loves oranges. 99% of people love oranges. Every person i've met loves oranges

at least a "FREE" network offers it, and i'm willing to bet you that the next xbox will feature it as well;)

i agree that it's nice to have options, but i never use it because it's just too much of a pain. i will say that i wouldn't care if the PS3 didn't have this included. I think that in order for the browser to be useful in a gaming console, there's going to be a need for a way to access it while playing a game and there will also be a need for an easier way to input data. If voice recognition were used then i could see the console browser being very useful. For example, it would be neat if there was an option for a pop-up browser and all you had to do was issue a voice command to open it, or maybe click a dedicated button. Once it's open then voice commands could be used for web navigation. That would be sweet. I'm certain there are a lot of other neat options they could come up with using voice recognition. I could see myself then using the browser to search for tips and cheats if I got stuck in a game.
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#148 NAPK1NS
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No really, what are you guys doing, running PSN wireless and 360 wired or what? I've never noticed a speed difference.. 110million
Me nether. This is weird. :?
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#149 daveg1
Member since 2005 • 20405 Posts
this is true dl's on live are faster than psn
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#150 Gnr_Helsing
Member since 2004 • 1602 Posts

I would have to agree PSN is much slower when it comes to downloads.