Ouch, Polygon lowers MCC review score to an 8

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#1  Edited By lostrib
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Polygon originally gave a review score of 9.5.

That score has now been dropped to an 8 due to the broken multiplayer

"There's no sugarcoating it: Halo: The Master Chief Collection's multiplayer component is broken. Users have reported extended wait times to access matches in every playlist (or "hopper," per Halo parlance). Polygon editors have had similar difficulties, and today I was unable to access a single match of any kind, encountering various error messages or endless queues, and even one full game crash to the Xbox One dashboard.

The Master Chief Collection's campaign element appears to be fully functional, so players aren't totally locked out of the experience the game is offering. But until 343 manages to make it multiplayer functional, our recommendation of the MCC has become considerably more qualified."

Source: http://www.polygon.com/2014/11/7/7076007/halo-the-master-chief-collection-review-xbox-one

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#2  Edited By SolidTy
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Plus, gamers have come across various Single Player bugs in addition to the MP bugs/glitches.

New Halo developer 343 apologized for the many Master Chief Collection bugs and issues. They are going to try and fix it all up before 2015.

Game Specific Bugs & Single Player:

Halo CE:

- Audio in Single Player is flawed. Loops sometimes forever/overlapping/different tracks playing at the same time/wrong sounds (More..).

- Completed Single Player games sometimes don't save.

- When playing co-op campaign, it seems impossible to finish a mission. The game is always disrupted with disconnects (More...).

- Random Game and System freezes

H2A:

- Campaign seems to randomly crash when attempting to start a mission.

H3:

- One user reports that he can't play Halo 3 at all. No single or multiplayer. Game freezes at the loading screen. As this happens only with one user so far we need more people confirming this here...

Mixed:

- Cross game singleplayer playlist skips mission (specifically Mission 6 on "Normal")

- The Master Chief Collection sometimes responds poorly to snapping. This behavior has exhibited crashing, freezing, and persistent significant frame drops.

- These are only a few things that happened to me and the players I played with last night. Please add more.

Matchmaking bugs:

- If you switch between the playlists you lose your party most of the time. You can't take your party and often don't get asked if you want to.

- Sometimes the teams get shuffled during the loading screen. E.g If you are with friends in the "red" team while voting for the map it doesn't mean you are in the same team when the game starts. "Team formulation" seems very broken (More...).

- Colors/Emblems, etc. is not available in Matchmaking and you just get a generic/random emblem.

- It doesn't give priority to your party when creating the teams. I've played about 10 Team Slayer games and most of the time was in the opposite team of my friend.

- Big Team Battle description says it's 8vs8, but it's only 6vs6.

- Rank up bug that let's you get the highest rank via a Matchmaking/Custom Game bug. Details: http://redd.it/2lyo3c

Custom Game bugs:

- Team colours shuffle after each game. And because changing team colours is now a 4-5 step process this is very annoying.

- Settings shuffle if you make some changes after the game and you have to setup everything again.

- You can't join a game after it started. It always says it's full, even if it isn't.

- The game gives the host randomly to players depending on the game. We played a few H2A games with a perfect and lag-free host. When we switched to H2C with the same players the game was suddenly unplayable, because it gave the host to someone else.

Other problems / missing features:

- Game chat randomly doesn't work for some players. Many people meet in parties.

- Players randomly disconnect from the game.

- The game freezes sometimes during the loading screen. Often after a game ends.

- You can't see the ping in matchmaking or custom game. In any game. This is really important.

- Changing the team colour is now a 4-5 step process. We were able to press "x" and could right away change the team. Now you have to press "X" to open the roster. Scroll to your gamertag and select it with "A". Then choose "Change Color" from four different options with "A". Then select the colour and leave the menu again.

- Loading times for maps seem extremely long. It also doesn't seem to preload the map like it always did.

- The roster doesn't work right. It often doesn't show anyone or only a few of the people that are online and sometimes you can't invite players. Sometimes the game get's unresponsive/freezes after using the roster or a snapped app.

- You can't see anymore who's talking in game. This used to be an important feature in previous games. Now you are in matchmaking with new players and just have to "guess".

- You can't see who is wearing a mic unless they speak.

- Less customization options for game type settings in custom games.

- There should be an option to turn off (or at least lower the volume of) the menu music. It used to be only in the main menu in the past, but now it's everywhere and just far too loud.

- The roster always shows 1/16 players for every group/friend, even if they play with more people,

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#3 freedomfreak
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I can see an 8 happening here for that exact reason.

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#4 Chutebox
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MP is broken and it's still an 8? At least they lowered it I guess.

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#5 TaigaTiger
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Thank goodness,

I was worried this game was going to be better than anything on my superior PS4 console

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#6 blackace
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@lostrib: Didn't they do the same thing for DriveClub. lol!! Who cares. It's still 89 score on Metacritic. At least these issues will be resolved quicker then 3 weeks I think.

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#7  Edited By lostrib
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@blackace said:

@lostrib: Didn't they do the same thing for DriveClub. lol!! Who cares. It's still 89 score on Metacritic. At least these issues will be resolved quicker then 3 weeks I think.

who cares about drive club

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@blackace said:

@lostrib: Didn't they do the same thing for DriveClub. lol!! Who cares. It's still 89 score on Metacritic. At least these issues will be resolved quicker then 3 weeks I think.

Metacritic for last gen multiplats? lol.....

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@Chutebox said:

MP is broken and it's still an 8? At least they lowered it I guess.

Well it's mostly bugs and lag problems. Assuming you can get into a game, it'll be fun multiplayer, and the campaigns are still really great and count for a lot of content. It isn't like it's so flawed that it fully destroyed the experience, like when they lowered the score for SimCity to a 4.

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#11 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@freedomfreak said:

I can see an 8 happening here for that exact reason.

I wouldn't be shocked actually. It would the most unexpected flop for me this year.

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#13 Bread_or_Decide
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What is it this fall with broken games being released.

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I used to get excited to get a game day1 ,i used to even take the day off work and play in peace while the kids were at school but nowadays **** that noise. I stayed up till 2am on Monday night waiting for halo and if I did that for the mp I would a been pretty pissed. I'm done buying them day1 now it seems nothing works as promised anymore. How the **** did this get so bad? Ten years ago this would have been a giant disaster, now it's all "were sorry bros".

How does this even happen with millions of ppl who would gladly take part in a beta network test. Before broadband Internet this was rare to have broken games so how did they manage it then?

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@FastRobby said:

So it will get bumped up again wednesday. That cow insecurity though...

?

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So why did they release a score to begin with? It's seems more responsible to just wait until you have a good grasp on all modes, performance and features before releasing a review. Because if you re-score a game once why stop there? Why not change the score after every patch or DLC?

Really I don't care what the score is. If the game deserves an 8 in their eyes then that's fine with me. But what the hell was the 9.5 then? If the online is broken now it was broken then. How did it deserve the 9.5 then but not now? Their staff needs to get together and iron out their review process.

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#18  Edited By blackace
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@lostrib said:

@blackace said:

@lostrib: Didn't they do the same thing for DriveClub. lol!! Who cares. It's still 89 score on Metacritic. At least these issues will be resolved quicker then 3 weeks I think.

who cares about drive club

Who cares about Polygon and their ratings? That was my point. I know it went over your head, like most things.

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@blackace said:

@lostrib: Didn't they do the same thing for DriveClub. lol!! Who cares. It's still 89 score on Metacritic. At least these issues will be resolved quicker then 3 weeks I think.

Metacritic for last gen multiplats? lol.....

Metacritic for last gen TLOU remastered? LOL!! You can take your foot out of mouth now. Better yet, keep it in there. lol!!

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@Vaasman said:

@Chutebox said:

MP is broken and it's still an 8? At least they lowered it I guess.

Well it's mostly bugs and lag problems. Assuming you can get into a game, it'll be fun multiplayer, and the campaigns are still really great and count for a lot of content. It isn't like it's so flawed that it fully destroyed the experience, like when they lowered the score for SimCity to a 4.

Well shit, I wouldn't call it "broken" then

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Ouch. Looks like this one's a pass.

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Broken online and framerates that aren't steady?

If it was 1080p, I'd almost mistake it for a PS4 exclusive.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

What is it this fall with broken games being released.

Usually around this time of year people are busy for the upcoming christmas season, this sort of thing is very normal.

Also, this isn't the nintendo or playstation seal of quality. This is, XBL. o'l

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#23 RR360DD
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Broken is an extreme word to use. It isn't broken.

I was playing multiplayer all night last night, and I'm just hopping on now again. It can take a while to find a match, and you do get the odd error but I was still able to play a ton of matches.

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@lostrib said:

@FastRobby said:

So it will get bumped up again wednesday. That cow insecurity though...

?

Apparently, if you say something positive/negative about the ps4/xb1 on SW, you're a cow/lems by default. Like Tomato keeps calling em a lemm for some reason

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#25  Edited By CrownKingArthur
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@deadline-zero0 said:

@lostrib said:

@FastRobby said:

So it will get bumped up again wednesday. That cow insecurity though...

?

Apparently, if you say something positive/negative about the ps4/xb1 on SW, you're a cow/lems by default. Like Tomato keeps calling em a lemm for some reason

hmmm. where's tomato getting his information from? what's tomato's sauce?

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@alcapello said:

playstation seal of quality

LOL good one

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consoles, can't get backwards compatibility and can't even properly port a 10+ year old games.

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@CrownKingArthur said:
@deadline-zero0 said:

Apparently, if you say something positive/negative about the ps4/xb1 on SW, you're a cow/lems by default. Like Tomato keeps calling em a lemm for some reason

hmmm. where's tomato getting his information from? what's tomato's sauce?

From his ass

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lol broken remakes

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hahahah love this

bb bbbut the driveclub LOL

Chickens come home to roost

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#31  Edited By GTSaiyanjin2
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I was going to get this till i saw that not even halo 1 can hold its 60 FPS target. I'll just get it when it hits the bargain bin. I'm sure the online stuff will be fixed, but I mainly wanted to play the SP of the Halo games again in HD.

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@deadline-zero0 said:

@CrownKingArthur said:
@deadline-zero0 said:

Apparently, if you say something positive/negative about the ps4/xb1 on SW, you're a cow/lems by default. Like Tomato keeps calling em a lemm for some reason

hmmm. where's tomato getting his information from? what's tomato's sauce?

From his ass

whoa-ho-ho! that's pretty saucy.

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@RR360DD said:

@alcapello said:

playstation seal of quality

LOL good one

Hahahaha

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#34  Edited By BldgIrsh
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@lglz1337: 5club is still not working...

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@lostrib said:

@blackace said:

@lostrib: Didn't they do the same thing for DriveClub. lol!! Who cares. It's still 89 score on Metacritic. At least these issues will be resolved quicker then 3 weeks I think.

who cares about drive club

Every time there's any kind of negative Xbone news, lems first defensive instinct is to hide behind drive club to try and avoid ownage. Even though driveclub has nothing to do with the Xbone struggles.

Lems ignore inferior multiplats, last place in sales, and MCC broken online only to say "bu but drive club".

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fair on their part I believe. It's becoming a norm for games to be launched broken and fixed later.. that's not right, if consumers can't have a backlash like returning the game then let reviewers speak for us and bring down those scores.

Saying that, the matchmaking has been a lot better today, avg wait time for a match for me now is about 6 minutes.

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@blackace said:

@lostrib: Didn't they do the same thing for DriveClub. lol!! Who cares. It's still 89 score on Metacritic. At least these issues will be resolved quicker then 3 weeks I think.

Oh, you think now? I was starting to believe you were incapable of thought.

What you think =/= reality in this case.

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@bldgirsh said:

@lglz1337: 5club is still not working...

LMAO dat DC

this is halo man using azure servers

haha this made my day

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@RR360DD said:

Broken is an extreme word to use. It isn't broken.

I was playing multiplayer all night last night, and I'm just hopping on now again. It can take a while to find a match, and you do get the odd error but I was still able to play a ton of matches.

Every single reviewer's word > random forum lemming's word

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So a broken collection is the best game lemz get this holiday, hah grats i guess

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#42  Edited By blackace
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@lglz1337 said:

hahahah love this

bb bbbut the driveclub LOL

Chickens come home to roost

Yes, but at least there were chicken feed in the hen house and the chicks were able to play. lol!!

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#43  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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it could very well flop here on gamespot because the mm is completely broken and the campaigns are buggy as hell

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#44 BldgIrsh
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@lglz1337: Didn't the thread you made get locked for it not making sense?

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#45  Edited By Animal-Mother
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@kuu2 said:

What did they give BF4????

Also, this brings up an interesting question.

If a game doesn't launch as a complete entity should it be reviewed again based on its new assets??

A good example would be KI Season 1. It has gone from a good fighter to an exceptional one since its launch.

I don't think you can post rate a game launch because of DLC.

KI launched the way it did and IRCC most of it's features/characters we're paid features?

You cant rate a F2P game with it's paid stuff all bought it skews the way it would be scored. IMo

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#46  Edited By blackace
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@bforrester420 said:

@blackace said:

@lostrib: Didn't they do the same thing for DriveClub. lol!! Who cares. It's still 89 score on Metacritic. At least these issues will be resolved quicker then 3 weeks I think.

Oh, you think now? I was starting to believe you were incapable of thought.

What you think =/= reality in this case.

No, I believe you are referring to yourself.

I think, therefore I am. What's your excuse?

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So a broken collection is the best game lemz get this holiday, hah grats i guess

I think lems have been playing Horizon 2 & Sunset Overdirve for a couple weeks now. What are cows playing. Infamous SS still? The broken DriveClub which Sony still refuses to release the PS+ version because they want gamers to cell out $50 or $60 for their crappy game. lol!! Yeah... congrats indeed. lol!!

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#47  Edited By bforrester420
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@blackace said:
@lglz1337 said:

hahahah love this

bb bbbut the driveclub LOL

Chickens come home to roost

Yes, but at least there were chicken feed in the hen house and the chicks were able to play. lol!!

"there were chicken feed"... your english is as bad as your math.

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#48  Edited By RR360DD
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@bforrester420 said:

@RR360DD said:

Broken is an extreme word to use. It isn't broken.

I was playing multiplayer all night last night, and I'm just hopping on now again. It can take a while to find a match, and you do get the odd error but I was still able to play a ton of matches.

Every single reviewer's word > random forum lemming's word

Every single reviewer isn't saying the game is broken.

And plenty of people are playing online - albeit not in ideal conditions.

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I'm getting a headache reading dude's posts.

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#50 Shewgenja
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Came for the damage control.

Was not disappointed.