Overwatch another terrible game in a long line of terrible games by Blizzard?

Am I the only one who thinks if it wasn't blizzard and hyped amidst a lack of games it would just be a really cartoony run of the mill shooter that no one would want? It's not a sleeper hit either. It's a money grab by a really greedy company with a lack of ideas. Blizzard is too busy making Warcraft movies. So much for saying they never release bad games. Their track record of late has been incredibly mediocre even if they are running on their name.

It's just a ripped off Team Fortress wannabe.

This is what I mean is what has blizzard done that isn't a ripoff? They did it with warhammer and now they are trying to do it with valve.

still need to try it

Yep.

Apparently i'm not though because people agree. It does not look good to me. I just was searching my ps4 for new games coming out and there isn't a whole lot and overwatch was there and I was amazed at how not interested I was.

Blizzard is a shell of its former self.

People used to played starcraft/diablo 2/warcraft 2&3/WoW Classic for decades remember how big these juggernauts were? Now look at them.

You got Diablo 3 (dead), Starcraft 2 (on life support), Heros of the Storm (dead), WoW Panda (dying), Hearthstone (boring), Overwatch (about to flop)

The company is at death's doorstep.

Only sales matter, look at Diablo 3 sales FFS, this game will probably be the same. The only things I ever bought from them were Diablo 1 & 2, the 3rd one being online only and looking like absolute shit I passed on, they are using the same tactics as EA with the Sims series, catering to children and people with shit PC's.l

I am of those

I haven't really enjoyed a Blizzard game since burning crusade to be honest. Starcraft and Diablo III turned me off with the amount of bs they were trying to pull. So did the wow expansions and drama. Heroes of the storm was a dota ripoff and got good reviews but a lot of people who played it said otherwise. Then they released that card game. And now this.

Loved Diablo. Loved the original warcraft games, starcraft and vanilla wow. SInce Blizzard North shut down and they merged with Activision, they have completely turned face.

They have sold out. They are trying to make movies now. They are still making money but it really just turns me off. They've become like George Lucas to me. I dont even know if Blizzard was ever who they said they were to be honest. They used to make their own games though. Even world of warcraft was a ripoff of warhammer though supposedly. It's not surprising because people who work for them are jerks.

They are trying to make movies. World of warcraft the movie will do big. They are milking that to the nth degree. They've completely forgotten they were a game company though.

All the guys who made those original games were fired and are gone. It's just metzen and his ego.

They used to be ahead of the curve. But it's Blizzard. It's not like Starcraft II or Diablo III are bad games. The always-online really sucks but oh well.

Blizzard has indeed fallen. Hard. I no longer look forward to their games. Eariler I really couldn't wait for them. I also hyped Overwatch, since I really wanted a new TF2. I've played the Beta quite a bit, and I don't really like it that much. It's just not that fun (definitely not TF2 level) and it feels messy and the guns feel super weak. Feels a bit like a MOBA in first person or something.

It began with Blizzard putting a huge amount of time on WoW, something I got bored of before the first expansion. Then they released one of my most anticipated games of all time - Diablo 3. And it sucked balls. Then they make a fucking MOBA. Ugh. No more Blizzard for me.

That's the thing is a lot of people buy hype. Other people know what's good. I can just see the difference and when it all changed for blizzard. Blizzard does not care. They care about one thing which is continuing to milk it as long as they can.

Hype dies, people play Blizzard titles for years/decades in large quantities.

Overwatch will be no different.

Do they though? I dont see their recent games having the same following. They released Diablo III on several platforms over a period of time which extended its interest but the interest in it seemed to die out pretty quick. Seems more like smoke and mirrors to me.

I think most of blizzard's success is because of their original games and people buy it because it's blizzard. That stuff wasn't hype. George Lucas even gave up the reigns of the star wars franchise after many years. Is it the same? Or is just running on smoke and mirrors?

That's the point though really is most of blizzards games after wow had huge initial sales initially because of hype and marketting and money and marketting power. Then their games die. They don't have that same staying power they once did. I see that starting to die down as well where they are losing some of that. Overwatch and their last few games really didn't do that well.

People are starting to realize it's a lot of hype and smarten up. Blizzard is very smart from a business perspective. They know what they are doing. Unfortunately a lot of their customers don't. They released Diablo III several times and people hated it and people still bought it.

They haven't come up with anything that wasn't hype or marketting in years. They are selling you crap. I havent bought it. I havent bought a blizzard game since the burning crusade.

@Celtic_34: Hearthstone is probably the most played cardgame around, World Of Warcraft is still widely played, still well ahead of the competition Diablo 3 is still one of the most played PC games, it's (casual) moba title was a success and StarCraft 2 is a national sport. Design wise it seems pretty clear they are a top tier developer.

Every developer gets the slap of "once upon a time" from the 5 people sulking in the corner, regardless if it's actually true or not.

If you go to gamefaqs and look at games that people are currently playing no recent blizzard title is even on that list. Wow is. That's it.

Hearthstone is a nitch game. It is not that popular. If it wasn't blizzard and wasn't marketted so much because of their marketing power, no one would have heard of it.

The movie industry is the same thing. The rerelease the same stuff. Get huge initial sales and movies then die because they aren't that good. Blizzard's sales have been slowly on the decline for years they are just flooding the market with crap and hype because they can. They aren't getting those sales numbers they were. So they are now trying to make a movie. They haven't done anything thats not hyped and backed by mass marketing in years. Their movie will be the same.

Overwatch is no different. It's just placing itself where there are no games. It's junk.

People hate on everything popular, even if it's sliced bread. Overwatch looks awesome and I haven't enjoyed a Blizzard game since Vanilla Wow and Warcraft 3 + expansion.

@Celtic_34:

"By November 2015, there were more than 40 million registered Hearthstone accounts"

Blizzard isn't popular though that's the point. Their sales have been declining for years and people aren't playing their games. I'm not. Companies are popular for a reason. BEcause they are good. Star Wars was good and was popular because it was good. People didn't hate on Star wars. It was good. People don't hate on things that are popular. They hate on things that aren't good.

Love Star Wars. Love Diablo. Those games were popular. Can't stand Diablo III. It sucks. Bunch of mass marketting forced garbage by people who think they are popular when they aren't.

I don't see people playing hearthstone anywhere. I wonder how many of those accounts are of people actively playing the game. Yes they mass marketed it. How many people are playing it? gamefaqs as a site shows who is playing what.

What's more telling to me is how much it was mass marketed how many people are registered and how many people are actually playing it. I bet a huge percentage aren't even playing it which shows it is not popular. There are more people who don't like it.

The whole problem with popularity is that the masses aren't as well informed as us and so they pay for things and hype things that are not as good as they think they are. The people in the know absolutely hate on popular things to try and correct this.

Exactly. Star Wars. not hype. People still love it to this day. Still watch it. It's great. How many of those registered hearthstone accounts are of people actually playing it and liking it? I bet the percentage of people who don't is higher. It was mass marketed by greedy jerks. There are better things in this world than that. Unfortunately blizzard and companies like that are the way they are.

Activision/Blizzard sucks balls. They aren't popular. Blizzard North. Freakin Awesome. They aren't the same company. They aren't even the same people.

Are you for real? Are you in denial that the prequels exists? The first film was so bad that it pretty much destroyed Jake Lloyd's life. Or the shitstorm that happened when George decided to put the awful CGI and changes into the original three films?

Blizzard died 15+ years ago.

I'm talkng about the original trilogy. I can't stand the prequels either. That's the whole reason I used that as an argument. Star Wars is Star Wars. People didn't hate on Star Wars. It was good. It was popular because it was good. I am for real yes and what I'm saying is true. The prequels were not good. People hated them. They weren't popular. Mass Marketing and milking it yes. What Blizzard is doing is the same. Hype vs substance. Star Wars was the real thing. The rest of it was just a corporation using it's marketing power to take advantage of naive people.

I like to hate on Blizzard too.

I love Star Wars. Who doesn't? I don't care if Star Wars is popular. When I say Star Wars, I mean Star Wars. I don't mean that other stuff.

It's unfortunate because there should be better ideas and newer better ones if these companies realized they had their day and stopped forcefeeding knockoff stuff. Or at least come up with stuff with the same integrity and mindset. People need to be allowed to do that but i really think some of these companies are greedy and people are naive and fall for it. There isn't as much opportunity or something when these companies are so overinflated. I loved their original stuff but Blizzard isn't really relevant to me anymore. They don't make stuff I like.

Dumb troll thread.

The game is butter smooth with fantastic gameplay and art styles... its also quite unique in 2016 being one of the only *Proper* class based team focused shooters.... so again how is that generic? Team Fortress 2 is 10 years old, people saying its "Just TF2" should just quit gaming because by that standard every game you have played in the last 10 years is "just another game....." ...

This forum, getting dumber by the hour.

must have missed the terrible games can some1 point them out?

What's a long line of terrible games? That would imply almost all of their games in which I would disagree and so would 50 million other people.

Are you talking Diablo 3? A game that was admittedly bad for 6 months but the game has now been out for years and is the best version of any Diablo yet.

Starcraft 2 still feels the same. It's just that RTS gaming isn't as popular as MOBA's or shooters for sports so it doesn't get much attention.

Hearthstone has been great.

Obviously WoW was a cultural phenomenon.


Just seems to me you don't like Blizzard games in general.

I really enjoyed the old Blizzard games(Diablo 2, Starcraft) and the more recent one Diablo 3, so I'm looking forward to Overwatch. I'm a little disappointed their never introduced online seasons for D3 consoles(so many cheaters online), but I have expectations that we'll get a game with solid gameplay and online options because this is a dev that has experience in both, they specialize in online games pretty much.

Pretty sure most people who are playing it like it.

@uninspiredcup: that game is such trash though

People that plays diablo dont use gamefaq, sites like Diablofans is much better for that, lol

I'm looking forward to the game. I enjoy those arena style, TF type of games so I'm sure this will live up to my expectations. Although, I'm way more excited for Battleborn, I love the M.O.B.A aspect of that game.

They are trying to make a game for e-sports but it will fail

But Blizzard makes great games.

If it didn't have Blizzard's name on it people wouldn't care.

I agree that their track record has been poor lately though, but they have hype and polish. That's enough for most people.

@unrealgunner: Justification for that statement?

Hearthstone is niche even though its being played by millions and rival the active userbase of all PS4 and Xbox One subscription population. You don't like Blizzard and thats all this thread is about. Pretending that this is a debate about quality is a fail attempt to seek out legitimacy.

Nah, the game's good.

Hearthstone is kind of popular tho.

Definitely not something that can support the company through and through....

His criteria is just messed up.

WoW is 12 years old... and still has a good number of million people subscribed.... dying in terms of its "all time high"? well yes... naturally. still typically in the top 5 games streamed.

Hearthstone is huge... sorry it is ..... people are welcome to say its crap, but its massive.

Diablo 3 ... I fail to see how this is dead..... no more dead than Diablo 2 ... what do people expect? you do a ladder, then you do another ladder.... over and over....

Starcraft 2 - great game, but just because korea didnt love it like the original doesn't mean anything

HOTS --- this is the only main failure, even then its popular on streams than most *normal games* .... it just couldnt dent DOTA/LOL.

Overwatch - why is this going to flop? the gameplay is stellar ....

"Blizzard isnt beating all the competition by billios, THEY SUCK NOW" ... <--- no ... most of the genres are far more saturated now.... theres a big difference.

@Celtic_34: I wouldnt call it terrible but FAR from what Blizzard used to release in their golden era. Blizzboys beg to differ but facts are facts.

Especially when this game willl cost as much as 60$ when it offers nothing extraordinary vs other F2P arena shooters , let alone full priced ones that offering lengthy single player campaigns , story , voice acting , cutscenes etc,,,, with Blizzards official excuse of OVERWATCHERs full price being that of game will be missing tactical approach if it doesnt offer all characters at once . epicly pathetic excuse.if you ask me Its like they admitting this game is a F2P caliber in the first place.

And ill laugh my ass off to the defenders that calling Overwatch a classical B2P game when Blizzard will implement a SHOP soon or later , that of F2P model. Just mark my words.

Anyways , as i said before to butthurt blizzboys , if this game was coming from other developer than Blizzard , 9 out of 10 of current fans wouldnt even know about it or wouldnt give a shit even.

Its really sad that the same Company that used to release one of a kind legends of Diablo/Starcraft / Warcraft series and WoW is now releasing games like Diablo3/HS/Heroes of the storm and Overwatch. F2P caliber games similar to so many other OR B2P games that are either nothing special or there are better alternatives / as good out there ...for free ( Everyone remembers Diablo 3 first 2 years vs Path of Exile for example or LoL-Dota2 vs HOTS when blizzboys were calling HOTS the LOL/DOTA2 killer)

And if you beg to differ big time to what im saying , feel free to use GOOGLE , compare awards between games yourself , legacy left behind , criticism , GOTYs , what PROs have to say for games like Starcraft vs Starcraft 2 even in 2016.

TIP : Blizzboys are so sensitive over facts that not only wont use google , not only will jump facts and will try to spin points but will keep talking for over a week. Just watch out !

Have put hundreds of hours into every Diablo, Starcraft and Warcraft. Can't wait for Overwatch. Will be played by people for several years like their other games while vocal minority nitpicks and complains.