I'm an unstable tight pants hipster who should be on drugs.
Sounds about right.
It's not right though. The truth it out there guys..... I'm out though.
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I'm an unstable tight pants hipster who should be on drugs.
Sounds about right.
It's not right though. The truth it out there guys..... I'm out though.
before you go off on a tangent it was a quote from the movie, 'This is the End', i.e. it was a joke. To quote the same movie, 'Take yo panies off'
I actually haven't played Overwatch, I will have to wait for the open beta. I really hope its good but I hear mixed things.
But on your thread title, I don't think Blizzard has made any terrible games. The scores and sales are always high, except for a few bad WoW expansions.
Exactly. That was what my first reply was in reference to. Its a common internet cliche nowadays, its cool to bash Blizzard now after their huge commercial success with WoW (the same people bashing WoW usually played it for years then started hating it after they quit) but saying they dont make good and/or quality games is kinda unrealistic. Sure, you may not like their current direction thats your choice, but their past efforts are anything but bad games, all critically and financially huge hits.
I've seen nothing but praise for it. I'm an avid TF2 player and if all the players from TF2 move to Overwatch, I'll follow suit because it looks like a really fun, competitive game with competitive on mind from the get-go unlike TF2.
@Celtic_34: Terrible indeed. I tried playing it at a convention and was not impressed one bit. It just had a big brand name slapped on a horribly made competitive-wannabe game. And the characters; I really don't click with them.
Butthurt Blizzboys can rant all they want defending the game but the truth is not far: Overwatch sucks!
Gimme a free copy? No thanks. It'll be in the recycle bin. Rather, I'm already having fun times in Umbrella Corps. They just had a new update again.
@Celtic_34: Terrible indeed. I tried playing it at a convention and was not impressed one bit. It just had a big brand name slapped on a horribly made competitive-wannabe game. And the characters; I really don't click with them.
Butthurt Blizzboys can rant all they want defending the game but the truth is not far: Overwatch sucks!
Gimme a free copy? No thanks. It'll be in the recycle bin. Rather, I'm already having fun times in Umbrella Corps. They just had a new update again.
You bump a 4 month old thread to bash a unanimously praised game with a 91% Metacritic Average, constant updates, and high concurrent player rate with over 10million sales in only 3 months..........
I'm not sure it's the "Blizzboys" who are the butthurt and defensive ones right now.
I didn't get the hype, looked like an online shooter with Skylanders. It looked like a $20 downloadable game selling for $60. It looked like Blizzard was just exploiting its name.
Did I miss something because I enjoy playing the crap out of Overwatch. You could call it a TF2 ripoff but to be honest they are both pretty unique in different ways. Honestly Overwatch is the best online only multiplayer game I have played in a while so yeah I don't think the game is overrated at all.
There are several million people who would disagree with you.
Well I guess COD is one of the greatest games of all time then, amirite? :P
There's likely several million people who would agree with that as well. I'm not one of them though. :)
They haven't been some amazing dev for awhile, but Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty is fantastic, the multiplayer is naturally terrific, and Legacy of the Void was solid, if a bit unspectacular. Hearthstone is the shit. Can't say I care for Diablo or World of Warcraft ever, because I fucking hate loot grinds as those games are well, mindless. This game looks fun as hell.
And it is fun as hell, one of the best ones this year.
There are several million people who would disagree with you.
Well I guess COD is one of the greatest games of all time then, amirite? :P
There's likely several million people who would agree with that as well. I'm not one of them though. :)
That game exploded with COD and the new LIVE online with the 360. Right place at right time, then activision started spending more on advertising then the game itself. Even with how popular Halo 2 was with the Xbox, Halo 3 couldn't match the legs of it. Then you see the decline of online with Halo, which in my opinion is objectively the better game, both in SP and MP and you know COD is a anomaly.
@Celtic_34: Terrible indeed. I tried playing it at a convention and was not impressed one bit. It just had a big brand name slapped on a horribly made competitive-wannabe game. And the characters; I really don't click with them.
Butthurt Blizzboys can rant all they want defending the game but the truth is not far: Overwatch sucks!
Gimme a free copy? No thanks. It'll be in the recycle bin. Rather, I'm already having fun times in Umbrella Corps. They just had a new update again.
You bump a 4 month old thread to bash a unanimously praised game with a 91% Metacritic Average, constant updates, and high concurrent player rate with over 10million sales in only 3 months..........
I'm not sure it's the "Blizzboys" who are the butthurt and defensive ones right now.
LMAO nice
I've been playing the game since launch and still having a blast. Overwatch might be a favorite of this gen so far.
Dumb troll thread.
The game is butter smooth with fantastic gameplay and art styles... its also quite unique in 2016 being one of the only *Proper* class based team focused shooters.... so again how is that generic? Team Fortress 2 is 10 years old, people saying its "Just TF2" should just quit gaming because by that standard every game you have played in the last 10 years is "just another game....." ...
This forum, getting dumber by the hour.
Pretty much this.
@Celtic_34: So terrible millions of people are playing it. Wait.....
Four. Months. Old. Thread.
it is an lol bad game. designed for the low iq/low skill hermits. lol @ hermits calling COD low skill when they need an ultimate unleashing single button press to even do anything of use
1. It isn't a bad game by any means, it has 91%.
2. While it is no doubt more casual than stuff like CS:GO, Unreal, or Quake:Champions (PC exclusives, or dead on console), the PC version of Overwatch is leagues ahead of anything on consoles for skill cap and competitive level. Nothing comes close. Especially not console designed shit like CoD or Titanfall (which are ironically far superior on PC). Not even the console version of OW which needs its own terrible balancing because lol controllers. Btw, a good team will counter any ULT, with skill.
3. PC competitive gaming is exponentially bigger and higher skill ceiling than console, with generally far more complex games even when it comes to non e-sports.... so if they are low iq/skill, then I can only imagine what Console gamers are.
Now, speaking of low iq/low skill, don't you have some movie-game to go hype for it's cut-scene graphics?
Why is no one mentioning Paladins?
Because this is a 4 month old thread.
@Celtic_34: Terrible indeed. I tried playing it at a convention and was not impressed one bit. It just had a big brand name slapped on a horribly made competitive-wannabe game. And the characters; I really don't click with them.
Butthurt Blizzboys can rant all they want defending the game but the truth is not far: Overwatch sucks!
Gimme a free copy? No thanks. It'll be in the recycle bin. Rather, I'm already having fun times in Umbrella Corps. They just had a new update again.
Why the **** did you bump this 4 month old thread? Just make a new thread if you wanna discuss Overwatch.
Why is no one mentioning Paladins?
Because this is a 4 month old thread.
@Celtic_34: Terrible indeed. I tried playing it at a convention and was not impressed one bit. It just had a big brand name slapped on a horribly made competitive-wannabe game. And the characters; I really don't click with them.
Butthurt Blizzboys can rant all they want defending the game but the truth is not far: Overwatch sucks!
Gimme a free copy? No thanks. It'll be in the recycle bin. Rather, I'm already having fun times in Umbrella Corps. They just had a new update again.
Why the **** did you bump this 4 month old thread? Just make a new thread if you wanna discuss Overwatch.
D:
Dumb troll thread.
The game is butter smooth with fantastic gameplay and art styles... its also quite unique in 2016 being one of the only *Proper* class based team focused shooters.... so again how is that generic? Team Fortress 2 is 10 years old, people saying its "Just TF2" should just quit gaming because by that standard every game you have played in the last 10 years is "just another game....." ...
This forum, getting dumber by the hour.
The sensitive fanboy cant let other people have other opinion than his .
Overwatch IT IS a TF2 rip off . Now if its better because TF2 is 10 years old , is entirely other story.
And to prove you what kind of a dumb fanboy you are , you calling it unique of being "proper" ? Gtfo blizzboy !!! Come on now !
Overwatch is a good game that copied TF2 big time in every way possible. Unique ? rofl ! Whatever has Blizzard logo for you is unique. Unique and a big copycat , how the hell is unique dummy? Its great , good , fantastic you name it... But unique ? hahaha ! And you calling the OP dumb ? Really ?
I know what youll do now that i cornered you , youll start spining my words , bypass my argument , make this personal , the usual shity talk. I wont respond , you know EXACTLY what is goin and what im talking about.
Have a nice day ! Im out of this thread , too many fanboys to deal with.
EDIT : Really , is this the same OLD THREAD i pulverized this blizzboy before ? Oh , lock this crap , this is too easy. This is settled already
Dumb troll thread.
The game is butter smooth with fantastic gameplay and art styles... its also quite unique in 2016 being one of the only *Proper* class based team focused shooters.... so again how is that generic? Team Fortress 2 is 10 years old, people saying its "Just TF2" should just quit gaming because by that standard every game you have played in the last 10 years is "just another game....." ...
This forum, getting dumber by the hour.
The sensitive fanboy cant let other people have other opinion than his .
Overwatch IT IS a TF2 rip off . Now if its better because TF2 is 10 years old , is entirely other story.
And to prove you what kind of a dumb fanboy you are , you calling it unique of being "proper" ? Gtfo blizzboy !!! Come on now !
Overwatch is a good game that copied TF2 big time in every way possible. Unique ? rofl ! Whatever has Blizzard logo for you is unique. Unique and a big copycat , how the hell is unique dummy? Its great , good , fantastic you name it... But unique ? hahaha ! And you calling the OP dumb ? Really ?
I know what youll do now that i cornered you , youll start spining my words , bypass my argument , make this personal , the usual shity talk. I wont respond , you know EXACTLY what is goin and what im talking about.
Have a nice day ! Im out of this thread , too many fanboys to deal with.
EDIT : Really , is this that OLD THREAD i pulverized this blizzboy before ? Oh , locked this crap , this is too easy.
"too easy" yet you've lost, high critic score, high sales, high retention (as in people still interested after all this time).
you can bitch and moan all you like, you lost. I was right.
Dumb troll thread.
The game is butter smooth with fantastic gameplay and art styles... its also quite unique in 2016 being one of the only *Proper* class based team focused shooters.... so again how is that generic? Team Fortress 2 is 10 years old, people saying its "Just TF2" should just quit gaming because by that standard every game you have played in the last 10 years is "just another game....." ...
This forum, getting dumber by the hour.
The sensitive fanboy cant let other people have other opinion than his .
Overwatch IT IS a TF2 rip off . Now if its better because TF2 is 10 years old , is entirely other story.
And to prove you what kind of a dumb fanboy you are , you calling it unique of being "proper" ? Gtfo blizzboy.
Overwatch is a good game that copied TF2 big time in every way possible. Unique ? rofl ! Gtfo
Grammatically he's not incorrect, he did qualify his statement within the context of 2016, and given that we don't get games like Overwatch often or even TF2, yeah that's fair game.
More to it, class-based existed before TF2, and while the game modes may be the same, how the classes play is anything but that. TF2 has actual loadouts, Overwatch basically doesn't. Overwatch's characters are more dependent on their abilities, where as TF2 characters have have some exceptions with the spy, or the engineer having an ability, but not nearly to the same extent. Because the game is 6 v 6 and not 16 v 16 team synergy is a more dramatically important thing in Overwatch. Simply put one player on a team of 6 has a more profound impact on the team's abilities to get shit done than one shitty player would have TF2.
They are similar in the sense that yeah they are class-based multiplayer games with wacky/zany characters. But TF2 is more about its shooting engine execution tied to its class differences. Overwatch is about as simplified on the shooting as you can get, and more about the application of that characters abilities (usually revolving around how they move around a map), and has a smaller player count to have a specific flow of combat. So calling it a generic or a straight rip off, is objectively wrong. It's willfully ignoring the things the game actually does to be different.
Which is his point, if by that metric Overwatch is "just a TF2 ripoff", we've had an entire decade of ripoffs by that measure.
EDIT : Really , is this the same OLD THREAD i pulverized this blizzboy before ? Oh , lock this crap , this is too easy. This is settled already
Huh? What is this fiction? You said the game was going to critically and financially flop for several months. You also said it would see no major competitive play.
You were absolutely destroyed, as it has been extraordinarily successful in all of those facets.
Blizzard's biggest "failure", Heroes of the Storm, is my most played game of the generation by far. It is profitable enough to consistently release new content, and have hundred of developers working on it.
If that's a company's least relatively popular and praised game, I think they are doing just fine.
EDIT : Really , is this the same OLD THREAD i pulverized this blizzboy before ? Oh , lock this crap , this is too easy. This is settled already
Huh? What is this fiction? You said the game was going to critically and financially flop for several months. You also said it would see no major competitive play.
You were absolutely destroyed, as it has been extraordinarily successful in all of those facets.
Hahaha , more spins please. Where did i say will financially or critically flop for several months you piece of trash. Dont try to do what Birdy was trying for a 2 weeks straight , spin words and statements to win an argument that is.
You are as pathetic as your friend. If not even more ( if youre not the same person ) because you coming up with things up your ass to win an argument. Im used to it with fanboys but you guys are on another level.
The only thing you are honest about is that i did say that this game wont see a major competitive play... and IT ISNT. lol. The other things you saying smell shit for obvious reason.
EDIT : At least have the balls to show up with your main account as i do.
Dumb troll thread.
The game is butter smooth with fantastic gameplay and art styles... its also quite unique in 2016 being one of the only *Proper* class based team focused shooters.... so again how is that generic? Team Fortress 2 is 10 years old, people saying its "Just TF2" should just quit gaming because by that standard every game you have played in the last 10 years is "just another game....." ...
This forum, getting dumber by the hour.
The sensitive fanboy cant let other people have other opinion than his .
Overwatch IT IS a TF2 rip off . Now if its better because TF2 is 10 years old , is entirely other story.
And to prove you what kind of a dumb fanboy you are , you calling it unique of being "proper" ? Gtfo blizzboy.
Overwatch is a good game that copied TF2 big time in every way possible. Unique ? rofl ! Gtfo
Grammatically he's not incorrect, he did qualify his statement within the context of 2016, and given that we don't get games like Overwatch often or even TF2, yeah that's fair game.
More to it, class-based existed before TF2, and while the game modes may be the same, how the classes play is anything but that. TF2 has actual loadouts, Overwatch basically doesn't. Overwatch's characters are more dependent on their abilities, where as TF2 characters have have some exceptions with the spy, or the engineer having an ability, but not nearly to the same extent. Because the game is 6 v 6 and not 16 v 16 team synergy is a more dramatically important thing in Overwatch. Simply put one player on a team of 6 has a more profound impact on the team's abilities to get shit done than one shitty player would have TF2.
They are similar in the sense that yeah they are class-based multiplayer games with wacky/zany characters. But TF2 is more about its shooting engine execution tied to its class differences. Overwatch is about as simplified on the shooting as you can get, and more about the application of that characters abilities (usually revolving around how they move around a map), and has a smaller player count to have a specific flow of combat. So calling it a generic or a straight rip off, is objectively wrong. It's willfully ignoring the things the game actually does to be different.
Which is his point, if by that metric Overwatch is "just a TF2 ripoff", we've had an entire decade of ripoffs by that measure.
What the heck ? He is totally incorrect. I dont even know where to start and where to finish with this !
OVerwatch will always be Blizzards copycat of TF2s success as HOTS will be LOLs/DOTA 2s. Thats the bottom line of this story.
Since when Blizzard , the once epic developer with unique games that everyone looked up and copying left and right , ended up being a F2P developer that copying others , a god knows.
But people like you to defending the obvious by "what everyone else does" clearly shows that you cant disagree with the fact im trying to make and all you can do is defend the fact this game is a TF2 copycat.
And since when do things different ( slightly ) is now a unique element ? Rofl
So Overwatch is unique! Lol ... If thats your high standards you talking over and over again in this forum , so be it. I couldnt care less.
MY statement remains as it did months ago. If this game wasnt a BLIZZARD game , noone of you would you even care about it. And im out. Ive said my opinion over and over for OW , its getting too repetitive.
Dumb troll thread.
The game is butter smooth with fantastic gameplay and art styles... its also quite unique in 2016 being one of the only *Proper* class based team focused shooters.... so again how is that generic? Team Fortress 2 is 10 years old, people saying its "Just TF2" should just quit gaming because by that standard every game you have played in the last 10 years is "just another game....." ...
This forum, getting dumber by the hour.
The sensitive fanboy cant let other people have other opinion than his .
Overwatch IT IS a TF2 rip off . Now if its better because TF2 is 10 years old , is entirely other story.
And to prove you what kind of a dumb fanboy you are , you calling it unique of being "proper" ? Gtfo blizzboy !!! Come on now !
Overwatch is a good game that copied TF2 big time in every way possible. Unique ? rofl ! Whatever has Blizzard logo for you is unique. Unique and a big copycat , how the hell is unique dummy? Its great , good , fantastic you name it... But unique ? hahaha ! And you calling the OP dumb ? Really ?
I know what youll do now that i cornered you , youll start spining my words , bypass my argument , make this personal , the usual shity talk. I wont respond , you know EXACTLY what is goin and what im talking about.
Have a nice day ! Im out of this thread , too many fanboys to deal with.
EDIT : Really , is this that OLD THREAD i pulverized this blizzboy before ? Oh , locked this crap , this is too easy.
"too easy" yet you've lost, high critic score, high sales, high retention (as in people still interested after all this time).
you can bitch and moan all you like, you lost. I was right.
How i did lost you blizzboy ?
Keep spining my statements to win an argument , im used to that from you.
As for critic score i said will be AA and i backed up why ( lack of content , modes etc ) , almost it did !
As for sales , i never said it wont sale rather than WHY it will ( its comes from BLIZZARD and that alone make crap games sale ( diablo 3 anyone? ) )
. As for people retention i named it as the NUMBER 1 factor as of when an online game is considered successful because many of you were calling out sales for that. Nothing more , nothing less.
So keep crying and try harder. Spin more maybe youll find a hole somewhere and win someday. Now go play ( or you got bored ? )
Blizzard is a shell of its former self.
People used to played starcraft/diablo 2/warcraft 2&3/WoW Classic for decades remember how big these juggernauts were? Now look at them.
You got Diablo 3 (dead), Starcraft 2 (on life support), Heros of the Storm (dead), WoW Panda (dying), Hearthstone (boring), Overwatch (about to flop)
The company is at death's doorstep.
You don't play games, ProtossIdiot.
Blizzard is a shell of its former self.
People used to played starcraft/diablo 2/warcraft 2&3/WoW Classic for decades remember how big these juggernauts were? Now look at them.
You got Diablo 3 (dead), Starcraft 2 (on life support), Heros of the Storm (dead), WoW Panda (dying), Hearthstone (boring), Overwatch (about to flop)
The company is at death's doorstep.
You don't play games, ProtossIdiot.
He obviously trolling ...
But he has a point. The once one of a hell developer that every other developer looked up and copy numerous times , became a Free 2 play caliber one with Free 2 Play caliber / low budget games over and over that copying others instead.
I mean , is this the blizzard we all knew and love ... Naaah , not even close. Other than that , standards of each one of us are different. For some high standards and unique games are games like Diablo 3 , Overwatch and HOTS and whatever has a blizzard logo on.
Dumb troll thread.
The game is butter smooth with fantastic gameplay and art styles... its also quite unique in 2016 being one of the only *Proper* class based team focused shooters.... so again how is that generic? Team Fortress 2 is 10 years old, people saying its "Just TF2" should just quit gaming because by that standard every game you have played in the last 10 years is "just another game....." ...
This forum, getting dumber by the hour.
The sensitive fanboy cant let other people have other opinion than his .
Overwatch IT IS a TF2 rip off . Now if its better because TF2 is 10 years old , is entirely other story.
And to prove you what kind of a dumb fanboy you are , you calling it unique of being "proper" ? Gtfo blizzboy !!! Come on now !
Overwatch is a good game that copied TF2 big time in every way possible. Unique ? rofl ! Whatever has Blizzard logo for you is unique. Unique and a big copycat , how the hell is unique dummy? Its great , good , fantastic you name it... But unique ? hahaha ! And you calling the OP dumb ? Really ?
I know what youll do now that i cornered you , youll start spining my words , bypass my argument , make this personal , the usual shity talk. I wont respond , you know EXACTLY what is goin and what im talking about.
Have a nice day ! Im out of this thread , too many fanboys to deal with.
EDIT : Really , is this that OLD THREAD i pulverized this blizzboy before ? Oh , locked this crap , this is too easy.
"too easy" yet you've lost, high critic score, high sales, high retention (as in people still interested after all this time).
you can bitch and moan all you like, you lost. I was right.
How i did lost you blizzboy ?
Keep spining my statements to win an argument , im used to that from you.
As for critic score i said will be AA and i backed up why ( lack of content , modes etc ) , almost it did !
As for sales , i never said it wont sale rather than WHY it will ( its comes from BLIZZARD and that alone make crap games sale ( diablo 3 anyone? ) )
. As for people retention i named it as the NUMBER 1 factor as of when an online game is considered successful because many of you were calling out sales for that. Nothing more , nothing less.
So keep crying and try harder. Spin more maybe youll find a hole somewhere and win someday. Now go play ( or you got bored ? )
Whatever helps you sleep at night sweet heart.
What the heck ? He is totally incorrect. I dont even know where to start and where to finish with this !
OVerwatch will always be Blizzards copycat of TF2s success as HOTS will be LOLs/DOTA 2s. Thats the bottom line of this story.
Since when Blizzard , the once epic developer with unique games that everyone looked up and copying left and right , ended up being a F2P developer that copying others , a god knows.
But people like you to defending the obvious by "what everyone else does" clearly shows that you cant disagree with the fact im trying to make and all you can do is defend the fact this game is a TF2 copycat.
And since when do things different ( slightly ) is now a unique element ? Rofl
So Overwatch is unique! Lol ... If thats your high standards you talking over and over again in this forum , so be it. I couldnt care less.
MY statement remains as it did months ago. If this game wasnt a BLIZZARD game , noone of you would you even care about it. And im out. Ive said my opinion over and over for OW , its getting too repetitive.
First and foremost nothing Blizzard ever did, sans maybe Diablo was an original game idea. World of Warcraft took a lot of aspects of other MMOs and fine tuned it into the game they made, Starcraft wasn't exactly this demonstrably unique RTS during that era, it's just expertly designed, and in terms of lore? **** its always been a somehow sillier version of Warhammer. So that's one.
You dismiss entire elements of the game, because it's easier for you to pigeon hole the game as "hur durr TF2 ripoff" frankly, you're being ignorant because actually coming up with a debate point seems like a ficking task. "Hur dur it's my opinion" isn't a counter for when you are objectively incorrect something. It is a fact that like TF2 Overwatch is a class based multiplayer, has payload, has a cartoony artstyle. It is also a fact that purely in how the mechanics work in both games the games don't have the same goals nor do they play the same. They have a similar framework, but where TF2 has one actual tank, Overwatch has about 4, and all 4 of them play differently from each other. Something as simple as that changes entire flow and cadence of the gameplay experience. It being similar to one game doesn't make it a copycat, nor does it deprive it of its own unique elements.
Plus any self respecting moba player could tell you how many different ways Heroes of the STorm doesn't play like Dota or League of Legends, beyond being a moba. It is actually a fairly different spin on that type of game. So that's a horrible example to begin with.
Which again is a fact, not exactly something I'm conjuring out of thin air, and not something so inconsequential to the overall play of the game that it might as well not be a point.
I think Diablo is shit. It's a Blizzard game. I definitely wouldn't enjoy World of Warcraft, in fact I haven't played a second of World of Warcraft because it's not my type of game. I've played Overwatch because it's a class based multiplayer, and since TF2 we haven't gotten proper one of those in awhile, and it is significantly different from any other class based game of its ilk.
SO lets go over this your arguments around a fallacy, completely ignore a fact of reality, and added bonus we only like it based on an assumption, which is conjecture. Ergo none of your arguing points have merit versus mine built around this crazy thing we called reality. So yeah one of us have does have higher standards for a debate. Try again sunshine.
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