PCvsMac

I was thinking, since PC fans love to compare console to PC, which is forever upgradeable. How about a more fare comparison.How would a gaming PC fare against a gaming MAC in terms power. Hope you guys get the underlying message of this:P

Gaming MAC?..Is there even such a thing? O.o?Desmonic

[QUOTE="Desmonic"]Gaming MAC?..Is there even such a thing? O.o?hexashadow13

Hmm, well why is Steam offered on Mac, did I miss something:o

It can be used as gaming PC as well, its just rarely outfitted for modern stuff.

By the way, the Mac is a PC, so the thread makes no sense realistically.

PC, there is very little to debate here.

The PC can run alot more games natively, you can run Bootcamp in macs, but there are sometimes glitches, so the PC has alot more games.

Alot of People claim that the Macs have superior builds hardware wise, yet ASUS amongst other brands deliver Labtops with a lower error margin, and to a fraction of the cost.

PCs are cheaper, and you can upgrade them without nulling the garantee, and yet again, to a fraction of the cost.

The Macs are semi closed platforms, more akin to consoles then it is to the PC, it has some good points, and some bad. The good points is that it is more controlled, the bad is that it is much more limited.

If you throw out the Mac OS, and install Win7 on it, all you have is basicly just a PC, that cost twice the amount.

This is for gaming, if you were talking, audio, video work, then I would give the nodge towards Macs, but games? no, it is not close, It simply lacks support for games, and you get a good fat 0 for the extra money you spend, and belive me, the last thing I think about when gaming is how my Case for the PC looks, far more interrested in how WELL it works and cools.

Macs are horrible for gaming. lol.

It can be used as gaming PC as well, its just rarely outfitted for modern stuff.

By the way, the Mac is a PC, so the thread makes no sense realistically.

lx_theo

Doesn't Apple sell some Mac servers?

Macbooks for laptops (and, being a laptop, games with low system requirements), Windows for desktops (and in turn playing games and doing resource-heavy work)

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="Desmonic"]Gaming MAC?..Is there even such a thing? O.o?1Stark1

Hmm, well why is Steam offered on Mac, did I miss something

Because Valve likes to sell people stuff. Most Macs have terrible specs for the price. They can play some games, but things like Crysis and Metro 2033 or even Battlefield Bad Company 2 would bring most Macs to their knees.

Macbooks for laptops (and, being a laptop, games with low system requirements), Windows for desktops (and in turn playing games and doing resource-heavy work)

IcyToasters

I really can't see the justification of buying a $1000+ laptop when you already have a desktop that can do everything your laptop can and more.

So you are essentially saying PC Vs PC? Because Macs are just a custom type of personal computer.

They share the same hardware with PCs today, the only real difference is proprietary Apple software and the odd design direction differences.

[QUOTE="IcyToasters"]

Macbooks for laptops (and, being a laptop, games with low system requirements), Windows for desktops (and in turn playing games and doing resource-heavy work)

rpgs_shall_rule

I really can't see the justification of buying a $1000+ laptop when you already have a desktop that can do everything your laptop can and more.

Well you would be handicapping yourself severely if you got a Mac to game. Macs are primarily used to for browsing the internet at Starbucks.

So you are essentially saying PC Vs PC? Because Macs are just a custom type of personal computer.

They share the same hardware with PCs today, the only real difference is proprietary Apple software and the odd design direction differences.

AnnoyedDragon

Thank you, you just emphasized my point. PC isn't a unique platform hardware wise, its just an embodiment of current computing chips, hence it shouldn't be compared to set machines like consoles. So can we all agree its stupid to compare graphics of consoles to computers.

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[QUOTE="IcyToasters"]

Macbooks for laptops (and, being a laptop, games with low system requirements), Windows for desktops (and in turn playing games and doing resource-heavy work)

QiiXii

I really can't see the justification of buying a $1000+ laptop when you already have a desktop that can do everything your laptop can and more.

Thank you, you just emphasized my point. PC isn't a unique platform hardware wise, its just an embodiment of current computing chips, hence it shouldn't be compared to set machines like consoles. So can we all agree its stupid to compare graphics of consoles to computers.

1Stark1

If this was your point, this thread wasn't exactly the best way of making that point.

Regardless, you cannot exclude PC from gaming comparisons; just because it's different from consoles.

I personally just have a cheap laptop, powerful enough to run typical applications, but not really for gaming. I never understood the need to have to play games everywhere.. just have a good desktop at home and play games on that, it'll be cheaper. 110million

For me, having two computers is frivolous. I don't need a big desktop but I do need a portable laptop, why not just get one that's able to run most games while I'm at it?

so we r talking windows verse mac os here cause technicly they r both PC .on the gaming side of things only some games support mac and they r not on par on how much they can be pushed as their pc counterparts. MOST games require u to emulate windows on a mac to play them so i wouldnt actually call it that the mac is playing the game when its infact windows....

hard ware wise ussaully windows pc for the same price of macs r superior

Macs are a type of PC with an inflated price tag.

As a current iMac owner, there's no comparison Wintel machines win hands down.

The closest thing Apple has to the modularity of a PC is the Mac Pro, which isn't all that great for the price. The components aren't cutting edge, either. (ex. they're still stuck AFAIK on USB 2 and refuse to play catch up.)

I was thinking, since PC fans love to compare console to PC, which is forever upgradeable. How about a more fare comparison.How would a gaming PC fare against a gaming MAC in terms power. Hope you guys get the underlying message of this:P

1Stark1

Macs are PCs that just work.

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="Desmonic"]Gaming MAC?..Is there even such a thing? O.o?1Stark1

Hmm, well why is Steam offered on Mac, did I miss something:o

How about a more fare comparison.How would a gaming PC fare against a gaming MAC in terms power.

1Stark1

gaming PC fare against a gaming MAC

1Stark1

gaming MAC

1Stark1

TC is messing with us I'm sure.

[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"] Well there you go. /threadPhoenix534

Hmm, well why is Steam offered on Mac, did I miss something

Because Valve likes to sell people stuff. Most Macs have terrible specs for the price. They can play some games, but things like Crysis and Metro 2033 or even Battlefield Bad Company 2 would bring most Macs to their knees.

A guy at work just bought a MAC desktop. He paid 1400 dollars and the specs were an i3 processor worth 115 dollars, 16 GBs of DDR3 ram worth around 150 dollars, and a Radeon HD 4670 vid card worth 70 dollars. And keep in mind he just bought this a month ago, yet they gave him a video card that's 3 or 4 years old and charged him the same as a 6870.

Case in point.He got 335 dollars worth of hardware for 1400 dollars. I rip into him everytime I see him.

Macs are PCs that just work.

DerpyMcDerp

Macs are PCs that cost more.

DerpyMcDerp

FTFY :P

MACs are wonderful computers with advantages overwindows based PCs.

Video editing, photoshopping, design work in general is smoother on the MACs.

But in terms of raw gaming power, MACs fall short. They don't support SLI so they are simply out of the equation.

No matter how much money you put in a MAC you won't beat a modern gaming windows based PC.

As far as hardware quality goes, PCs(WIN) take the crown too. Stick to Asus and Antec with an intel processor and MACs are not up to the task.

So a modern PC(WIN) is more powerful, has better quality parts at a much cheaper price.

MACs are wonderful computers with advantages overwindows based PCs.

Video editing, photoshopping, design work in general is smoother on the MACs.

fireballonfire

Smoother how?

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

Hmm, well why is Steam offered on Mac, did I miss something

DragonfireXZ95

Because Valve likes to sell people stuff. Most Macs have terrible specs for the price. They can play some games, but things like Crysis and Metro 2033 or even Battlefield Bad Company 2 would bring most Macs to their knees.

A guy at work just bought a MAC desktop. He paid 1400 dollars and the specs were an i3 processor worth 115 dollars, 16 GBs of DDR3 ram worth around 150 dollars, and a Radeon HD 4670 vid card worth 70 dollars. And keep in mind he just bought this a month ago, yet they gave him a video card that's 3 or 4 years old and charged him the same as a 6870.

Case in point.He got 335 dollars worth of hardware for 1400 dollars. I rip into him everytime I see him.

:lol: 16 GB of RAM with an i3 and crap GPU? That's entirely unbalanced. And for $1400, you could build an awesome core i7/DX11 computer.

[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

MACs are wonderful computers with advantages overwindows based PCs.

Video editing, photoshopping, design work in general is smoother on the MACs.

Brownesque

Smoother how?

It's an urban legend that I guess used to be true long time ago. I use photoshop, a lot and I'm quite happy with how it runs on my pc.

[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

MACs are wonderful computers with advantages overwindows based PCs.

Video editing, photoshopping, design work in general is smoother on the MACs.

Brownesque

Smoother how?

I've always wondered this. I've used Photoshop on both OSX and Windows and I've never seen a real difference between the two.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

MACs are wonderful computers with advantages overwindows based PCs.

Video editing, photoshopping, design work in general is smoother on the MACs.

edidili

Smoother how?

It's an urban legend that I guess used to be true long time ago. I use photoshop, a lot and I'm quite happy with how it runs on my pc.

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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Because Valve likes to sell people stuff. Most Macs have terrible specs for the price. They can play some games, but things like Crysis and Metro 2033 or even Battlefield Bad Company 2 would bring most Macs to their knees.

Phoenix534

A guy at work just bought a MAC desktop. He paid 1400 dollars and the specs were an i3 processor worth 115 dollars, 16 GBs of DDR3 ram worth around 150 dollars, and a Radeon HD 4670 vid card worth 70 dollars. And keep in mind he just bought this a month ago, yet they gave him a video card that's 3 or 4 years old and charged him the same as a 6870.

Case in point.He got 335 dollars worth of hardware for 1400 dollars. I rip into him everytime I see him.

:lol: 16 GB of RAM with an i3 and crap GPU? That's entirely unbalanced. And for $1400, you could build an awesome core i7/DX11 computer.

A PC is a PC, and a Mac is a PC.

[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

MACs are wonderful computers with advantages overwindows based PCs.

Video editing, photoshopping, design work in general is smoother on the MACs.

Brownesque

Smoother how?

Allright you caught me. I've never done any serious work on a MAC (net browsing). I just thought it was the general consensus, or maybe it's just an old argument that MAC users fall back on.

Any experienced MAC and WIN user that can shed some light on the matter?

Allright you caught me. I've never done any serious work on a MAC (net browsing). I just thought it was the general consensus, or maybe it's just an old argument that MAC users fall back on.

Any experienced MAC and WIN user that can shed some light on the matter?

fireballonfire

[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

Allright you caught me. I've never done any serious work on a MAC (net browsing). I just thought it was the general consensus, or maybe it's just an old argument that MAC users fall back on.

Any experienced MAC and WIN user that can shed some light on the matter?

musicalmac

Yes, so it seems.

What's you take on the subject?

Yes, so it seems.

What's you take on the subject?

fireballonfire

[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

I was thinking, since PC fans love to compare console to PC, which is forever upgradeable. How about a more fare comparison.How would a gaming PC fare against a gaming MAC in terms power. Hope you guys get the underlying message of this:P

Brownesque

Well, you could upgrade it yourself at the risk of voiding your warranty. Also, in terms of gaming, a top-end Mac will not be equivalent to a top-end Windows based gaming machine. The Macs usually will have terrible video cards.

Windows-based PC's have much more support when it comes to each generation of the latest games requiring 3D-processing hardware. OSX-based PC's tend to be used for "Media Editing" - music, images, videos, and not a lot of games.

SteamPlay is cross-platform but many games offered through Steam do not support SteamPlay - therefore are not playable on Mac OSX. Currently there are 130 games that support it, though, so Mac-only owners are getting more support. At the same time, the minimum requirements seem to be higher.

The first Left 4 Dead for example:
Mac System Requirements
o OS: MacOS X 10.6.4 or higher (Snow Leopard Graphics Update required)
o Processor: Dual core Intel processor, 2GHz or better
o Video Card: ATI Radeon 2400 or higher / NVIDIA 8600M or higher
o Not supported: OS X 10.5.x, ATI X1600 or X1900 graphics, NVIDIA GeForce 7 graphics or Intel graphics.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

MACs are wonderful computers with advantages overwindows based PCs.

Video editing, photoshopping, design work in general is smoother on the MACs.

fireballonfire

Smoother how?

Allright you caught me. I've never done any serious work on a MAC (net browsing). I just thought it was the general consensus, or maybe it's just an old argument that MAC users fall back on.

Any experienced MAC and WIN user that can shed some light on the matter?

[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

Yes, so it seems.

What's you take on the subject?

musicalmac