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#51 shadow_hosi
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if a console game can out-do crysis before a better looking PC game comes out, well, ill just quit pc gaming
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#52 Killfox
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So what I get from this thread is that it FAILED. Im am I right???
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#53 amorbis1001
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

wow......I can just easily say it the other way around....all console AAAe's are garbage....

and you are an idiot if you actually bought an allienware.

as for the TC....

he doesnt seem to realize that COD4, and bioshock...etc. can be maxed out easily on mid end cards...they are not demanding games at all.

Danm_999

yeah and bioshock crashes on my pc (thank god I didnt buy it) and :lol: I bought an alienware m550i it is a laptop not a desktop,(and alien ware had a sale) my desktop is 2 year old and onnly game I play on it is CS:S and I aint gonna upgrade for another 2 years.

consoles all together has every genre in the bag (except flightsim) and better exclusives for less than a half decent pc and all 3 consoles will last at least 5 freaking year, unlike my pc.

Consoles has every genre in the bag?

What about RTS? Strategy? MMORPGs? Simulators (not just flight sims)? Adventure? Not to mention how they lag compared to the PC in WRPGs and Shooters.

Better exclusives? No console has the same amount of AAAE or AAE exclusives.

are you serious, 360 has a boatload of rts

wii has a boat load of adventure and strategy metroid is the king of adventure

and and racing simulator is the only one worth say other than flight (ship simulator :lol: )

and omg lag what lag, please I have more lagg on my pc than consoles.

and more AAAe, I'd rather get quality over quantity and that is all the biggest name in the industry over some trailer made game that got lucky to be a good game but not amazing.

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#54 Ilived
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So what I get from this thread is that it FAILED. Im am I right???Killfox

Nope not at all. It proved that you guys get impressed far too easily and I think that degrades pc gaming as a whole.

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#55 elbow2k
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[QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

CoD4 is not the best the pc has to offer, I never said it is. But even the best the pc has to offer(Crysis) lacks in what it was originally advertised to be. The console lifecycle can't keep up, but that's not what I am saying. I'm saying it's close enough. I'm saying the difference is not worth it in the end.

Ilived

You've never played Crysis, don't attempt to think you know it. Even on high settings it blows away COD4 on MAX settings for the PC. It looks better than Bioshock, and Gears of War for the PC, and is the benchmark for graphics for a long, long time to come.

And it isn't close enough. By the time the PS2 and original Xbox hit halfway through their life cycles, their GPU's where already low end, and their games graphically didn't match up with what the PC was coming out with.

If you are looking for graphics, then the difference is visible and is worth it at the end of it.

I HAVE played Crysis. The graphical differences willi be close enough this time around as it takes a company like EA to pay for a game like Crysis. There aren't that many companies out there that can do that you know.

So that's your excuse now? That only companies like EA combined with Crytek could make a game like that?

Same goes with consoles, pretty much with everything.

Got anything you want to add?

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#56 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

wow......I can just easily say it the other way around....all console AAAe's are garbage....

and you are an idiot if you actually bought an allienware.

as for the TC....

he doesnt seem to realize that COD4, and bioshock...etc. can be maxed out easily on mid end cards...they are not demanding games at all.

amorbis1001

yeah and bioshock crashes on my pc (thank god I didnt buy it) and :lol: I bought an alienware m550i it is a laptop not a desktop,(and alien ware had a sale) my desktop is 2 year old and onnly game I play on it is CS:S and I aint gonna upgrade for another 2 years.

consoles all together has every genre in the bag (except flightsim) and better exclusives for less than a half decent pc and all 3 consoles will last at least 5 freaking year, unlike my pc.

Consoles has every genre in the bag?

What about RTS? Strategy? MMORPGs? Simulators (not just flight sims)? Adventure? Not to mention how they lag compared to the PC in WRPGs and Shooters.

Better exclusives? No console has the same amount of AAAE or AAE exclusives.

are you serious, 360 has a boatload of rts

wii has a boat load of adventure and strategy metroid is the king of adventure

and and racing simulator is the only one worth say other than flight (ship simulator :lol: )

and omg lag what lag, please I have more lagg on my pc than consoles.

and more AAAe, I'd rather get quality over quantity and that is all the biggest name in the industry over some trailer made game that got lucky to be a good game but not amazing.

you realize that in order for a game to get AAA it has to have quality in the first place, thats simply by definition.

and plz tell me where this "boatload of RTS's" are on the 360....

and he meant the traditional Advetnrure games....

and yes...dedicaded servers > P2P...you will get far less lag on PC games.

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#57 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Killfox"]So what I get from this thread is that it FAILED. Im am I right???Ilived

Nope not at all. It proved that you guys get impressed far too easily and I think that degrades pc gaming as a whole.

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You know how I know this thread fails. You keep spewing a bunch of fallacies out your mouth.

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#58 Ilived
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[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

CoD4 is not the best the pc has to offer, I never said it is. But even the best the pc has to offer(Crysis) lacks in what it was originally advertised to be. The console lifecycle can't keep up, but that's not what I am saying. I'm saying it's close enough. I'm saying the difference is not worth it in the end.

elbow2k

You've never played Crysis, don't attempt to think you know it. Even on high settings it blows away COD4 on MAX settings for the PC. It looks better than Bioshock, and Gears of War for the PC, and is the benchmark for graphics for a long, long time to come.

And it isn't close enough. By the time the PS2 and original Xbox hit halfway through their life cycles, their GPU's where already low end, and their games graphically didn't match up with what the PC was coming out with.

If you are looking for graphics, then the difference is visible and is worth it at the end of it.

I HAVE played Crysis. The graphical differences willi be close enough this time around as it takes a company like EA to pay for a game like Crysis. There aren't that many companies out there that can do that you know.

So that's your excuse now? That only companies like EA combined with Crytek could make a game like that?

Same goes with consoles, pretty much with everything.

Got anything you want to add?

You are the one expecting a huge difference in a year. I'm just pointing out that it's not going to happen anymore.

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#59 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

CoD4 is not the best the pc has to offer, I never said it is. But even the best the pc has to offer(Crysis) lacks in what it was originally advertised to be. The console lifecycle can't keep up, but that's not what I am saying. I'm saying it's close enough. I'm saying the difference is not worth it in the end.

Ilived

You've never played Crysis, don't attempt to think you know it. Even on high settings it blows away COD4 on MAX settings for the PC. It looks better than Bioshock, and Gears of War for the PC, and is the benchmark for graphics for a long, long time to come.

And it isn't close enough. By the time the PS2 and original Xbox hit halfway through their life cycles, their GPU's where already low end, and their games graphically didn't match up with what the PC was coming out with.

If you are looking for graphics, then the difference is visible and is worth it at the end of it.

I HAVE played Crysis. The graphical differences willi be close enough this time around as it takes a company like EA to pay for a game like Crysis. There aren't that many companies out there that can do that you know.

So that's your excuse now? That only companies like EA combined with Crytek could make a game like that?

Same goes with consoles, pretty much with everything.

Got anything you want to add?

You are the one expecting a huge difference in a year. I'm just pointing out that it's not going to happen anymore.

why wouldnt it happen? its already happening....

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#60 Danm_999
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are you serious, 360 has a boatload of rtsamorbis1001

Your comparing the 360 RTS genre to the PC's? :D

wii has a boat load of adventure and strategy metroid is the king of adventureamorbis1001

Congratulations. You've shown me you don't understand the difference between genres. Metroid is neither an adventure or a strategy.

and and racing simulator is the only one worth say other than flight (ship simulator :lol: )amorbis1001

So then it doesn't have every genre in the bag, only the ones you want?

and omg lag what lag, please I have more lagg on my pc than consoles.amorbis1001

Get a better internet connection. There is far less lag on the PC.

and more AAAe, I'd rather get quality over quantity and that is all the biggest name in the industry over some trailer made game that got lucky to be a good game but not amazing. amorbis1001

Fortunately, you get quantity and quality with PC, and you haven't dispelled that. All you've done is shown you know incredibly little about generic differences.

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#61 General_X
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After watching my friend build/order a new PC (gaming PC) on a site (cant say cause I dont what to get modded) and it was $2,099...

You can buy all 3 consoles and almost every single game you want for almost a whole year with that money....

Ballroompirate
If you were to build your own, with that money you could spend half that for a high-end rig this gen, then spend the rest on new, high end upgrades next gen. Thats an insane price but I guess thats the nature of buying prebuilt machines, like 100% mark-up.
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[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

CoD4 is not the best the pc has to offer, I never said it is. But even the best the pc has to offer(Crysis) lacks in what it was originally advertised to be. The console lifecycle can't keep up, but that's not what I am saying. I'm saying it's close enough. I'm saying the difference is not worth it in the end.

elbow2k

You've never played Crysis, don't attempt to think you know it. Even on high settings it blows away COD4 on MAX settings for the PC. It looks better than Bioshock, and Gears of War for the PC, and is the benchmark for graphics for a long, long time to come.

And it isn't close enough. By the time the PS2 and original Xbox hit halfway through their life cycles, their GPU's where already low end, and their games graphically didn't match up with what the PC was coming out with.

If you are looking for graphics, then the difference is visible and is worth it at the end of it.

I HAVE played Crysis. The graphical differences willi be close enough this time around as it takes a company like EA to pay for a game like Crysis. There aren't that many companies out there that can do that you know.

So that's your excuse now? That only companies like EA combined with Crytek could make a game like that?

Same goes with consoles, pretty much with everything.

Got anything you want to add?

No... Just saying Crysis is ahead of its time.. Unreal 3 engine will be used constantly with many other games using it... Very few for awhile will break the boundaries of Crysis.. We have yet to see a single game even come close.. That doesn't mean all games will look bad but we will see games like CoD4 such things will be released which will look almost as amazing...

No the point of the matter is consoles will not even come close to Crysis.. THe majority of pcs right now have trouble running at high settings. ITs future proof.. In the end I am getting quite sick of this constant comparison with teh FPS.. In the end it just depends on the genre you like.. IMO the FPS's, RTS's, TBS's, simulators including space simulators, niche games that really can't be put in one catargory etc etc are great.. But as it stands the PC does outdue to the xbox360 and PS3 for very cheap.. You can build a great machine for around $700 with the 8800 GT to get high settings on Crysis. And that game will most likely be the cutting edge for awhile..

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[QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

CoD4 is not the best the pc has to offer, I never said it is. But even the best the pc has to offer(Crysis) lacks in what it was originally advertised to be. The console lifecycle can't keep up, but that's not what I am saying. I'm saying it's close enough. I'm saying the difference is not worth it in the end.

Ilived

You've never played Crysis, don't attempt to think you know it. Even on high settings it blows away COD4 on MAX settings for the PC. It looks better than Bioshock, and Gears of War for the PC, and is the benchmark for graphics for a long, long time to come.

And it isn't close enough. By the time the PS2 and original Xbox hit halfway through their life cycles, their GPU's where already low end, and their games graphically didn't match up with what the PC was coming out with.

If you are looking for graphics, then the difference is visible and is worth it at the end of it.

I HAVE played Crysis. The graphical differences willi be close enough this time around as it takes a company like EA to pay for a game like Crysis. There aren't that many companies out there that can do that you know.

So that's your excuse now? That only companies like EA combined with Crytek could make a game like that?

Same goes with consoles, pretty much with everything.

Got anything you want to add?

You are the one expecting a huge difference in a year. I'm just pointing out that it's not going to happen anymore.

Who said in a year? Did I ever say in a year. Will someone in this thread please quote me when I said in a year.

I said in the life cycle of a console, and you bet, it will happen.

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#64 Teuf_
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CoD4 is not the best the pc has to offer, I never said it is. But even the best the pc has to offer(Crysis) lacks in what it was originally advertised to be.

Ilived



How exactly is that even close to true?

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#65 Ilived
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[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

CoD4 is not the best the pc has to offer, I never said it is. But even the best the pc has to offer(Crysis) lacks in what it was originally advertised to be. The console lifecycle can't keep up, but that's not what I am saying. I'm saying it's close enough. I'm saying the difference is not worth it in the end.

elbow2k

You've never played Crysis, don't attempt to think you know it. Even on high settings it blows away COD4 on MAX settings for the PC. It looks better than Bioshock, and Gears of War for the PC, and is the benchmark for graphics for a long, long time to come.

And it isn't close enough. By the time the PS2 and original Xbox hit halfway through their life cycles, their GPU's where already low end, and their games graphically didn't match up with what the PC was coming out with.

If you are looking for graphics, then the difference is visible and is worth it at the end of it.

I HAVE played Crysis. The graphical differences willi be close enough this time around as it takes a company like EA to pay for a game like Crysis. There aren't that many companies out there that can do that you know.

So that's your excuse now? That only companies like EA combined with Crytek could make a game like that?

Same goes with consoles, pretty much with everything.

Got anything you want to add?

You are the one expecting a huge difference in a year. I'm just pointing out that it's not going to happen anymore.

Who said in a year? Did I ever say in a year. Will someone in this thread please quote me when I said in a year.

I said in the life cycle of a console, and you bet, it will happen.

If you say so. I guess we'll see, but to the point...you guys get too high off graphics you think that console gamers can never experience it even though for right now there is barely any difference at all.

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#66 amorbis1001
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you realize that in order for a game to get AAA it has to have quality in the first place, thats simply by definition.

and plz tell me where this "boatload of RTS's" are on the 360....

and he meant the traditional Advetnrure games....

and yes...dedicaded servers > P2P...you will get far less lag on PC games.

cobrax75

360 RTS

WIC is gonna be realeased for 360 too

wtf, its adventure . and any ninty first party adventure game is better than every pc adventure game period.

dedicated > P2P so ps3 has dedicated :|

where is the action genre on pc where is the fighting, where is the arcade racing where is the platformer, and where is the Jrpg, and where da hell is the sports.

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#67 Ilived
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You're telling me Crysis looks like this?

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You're telling me Crysis looks like this?

Ilived

those are screenshots of what the engine can do..not the game...thats how crysis will end up looking once future patches unlock this stuff....

right now, if you still dont realize it...crysis is the best looking game by a huge margin.

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#69 naval
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So what I get from this thread is that it FAILED. Im am I right???Killfox

yup it failed quite horribly in fact

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[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

you realize that in order for a game to get AAA it has to have quality in the first place, thats simply by definition.

and plz tell me where this "boatload of RTS's" are on the 360....

and he meant the traditional Advetnrure games....

and yes...dedicaded servers > P2P...you will get far less lag on PC games.

amorbis1001

360 RTS

WIC is gonna be realeased for 360 too

wtf, its adventure . and any ninty first party adventure game is better than every pc adventure game period.

dedicated > P2P so ps3 has dedicated :|

where is the action genre on pc where is the fighting, where is the arcade racing where is the platformer, and where is the Jrpg, and where da hell is the sports.

is that really all you have for the 360 RTS's :lol:

and no, only the first party PS3 games use dedicaded servers...and those dont seem to be to high quality anyway, if they still have such a lower player count.

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#71 naval
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[QUOTE="Killfox"]So what I get from this thread is that it FAILED. Im am I right???Ilived

Nope not at all. It proved that you guys get impressed far too easily and I think that degrades pc gaming as a whole.

so what degrades console games that they so badly loose out to pc in AAA/AA easily

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#72 elbow2k
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Yeah it does.

Can we play it? No we can't, but it sure is nice to look at. :lol:

I've got some pics up on my blog of Crysis @ all high settings with 4xAA.

It's still better looking than anything around.

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#73 Ilived
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Yeah it does.

Can we play it? No we can't, but it sure is nice to look at. :lol:

I've got some pics up on my blog of Crysis @ all high settings with 4xAA.

It's still better looking than anything around.

elbow2k

As if anyone is argueing against that.

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#74 naval
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[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

you realize that in order for a game to get AAA it has to have quality in the first place, thats simply by definition.

and plz tell me where this "boatload of RTS's" are on the 360....

and he meant the traditional Advetnrure games....

and yes...dedicaded servers > P2P...you will get far less lag on PC games.

amorbis1001

360 RTS

WIC is gonna be realeased for 360 too

wtf, its adventure . and any ninty first party adventure game is better than every pc adventure game period.

dedicated > P2P so ps3 has dedicated :|

where is the action genre on pc where is the fighting, where is the arcade racing where is the platformer, and where is the Jrpg, and where da hell is the sports.

do you even know what adventure games are ?

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#75 amorbis1001
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

you realize that in order for a game to get AAA it has to have quality in the first place, thats simply by definition.

and plz tell me where this "boatload of RTS's" are on the 360....

and he meant the traditional Advetnrure games....

and yes...dedicaded servers > P2P...you will get far less lag on PC games.

naval

360 RTS

WIC is gonna be realeased for 360 too

wtf, its adventure . and any ninty first party adventure game is better than every pc adventure game period.

dedicated > P2P so ps3 has dedicated :|

where is the action genre on pc where is the fighting, where is the arcade racing where is the platformer, and where is the Jrpg, and where da hell is the sports.

do you even know what adventure games are ?

yeah syberia and those other point an click games how is it enjoyable..... no one knows,

and no one is answering my question, since this generation started where are the other genres i mentioned

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I used to love making fun of cows and just getting lemmings riled up and make fun of their "omg i m kewl cuz i paly shooturz" nature. But, as of yesterday, my hate goes to hermits. There was a thread that ended up closed and I never got to post in it again after I made my first one. Basically, someone went to the store and bought a computer for $800 or so, and said that it couldn't play the games that he was trying to play. PC people seem to say $800 is all you need and they bashed this guy because he bought the computer at a STORE and didn't build it on his own. I had to laugh. Yeah, he bought it at a store because he probably doesn't know how to build his own computer. Don't run around saying you can throw $800 down and have a great PC gaming machine when it simply doesn't work that way. If you have to build it yourself, find all the crap, hey if you don't know how to do that, you can't PC game for $800. Find a pre-built computer that will play them for however much and that's what counts. I didn't build my consoles and the most I paid was $400... use your heads, hermits. Some people have lives and go to work, we don't get aroused by hard drives.

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#77 trix5817
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[QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]...when it comes to graphics and pc games. They like you to believe that pc games graphics are soooooo above that it's worth spending $400 on a graphics card or something. When CoD4 demo and UT3 demo came out, the graphics seemed to be underwhelming for both games. You know what their excuse was? "It's a demo and the max settings aren't available." Not only did they say about that when the CoD4 demo came out, they also said that about the UT3 demo. Both games are out, I see no ultra high settings they were talking about...well anyway, just like to point out that hermits over-exaggerate about their games...big time.Ilived

the differences will be bigger two years from now, you have to wait.

There's no need to wait. There is a big difference as we speak right now.

Christ, what a garbage thread. Put this on your blog or something.

Go read the console reviews for COD4 then go read the PC review of COD4.

That comment right there is complete garbage. The graphics aren't good enough to justify a $400 card, they aren't that much of a difference and you know it.

My card was $250. Not $400. It doesn't even take a $250 to run it maxed out. A $100 7900GT can. Oh, what resolution are you playing it at again?:lol:

Have fun playing the same old boring maps that IW made, while within a couple weeks I'll be playing user created ones that are much better. That's the problem with console games, most of them only last a couple of weeks then they get boring. They don't get user mods/maps like PC games do. That's one of the main reasons I'm a PC gamer. MUCH, MUCH more value.

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[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

you realize that in order for a game to get AAA it has to have quality in the first place, thats simply by definition.

and plz tell me where this "boatload of RTS's" are on the 360....

and he meant the traditional Advetnrure games....

and yes...dedicaded servers > P2P...you will get far less lag on PC games.

amorbis1001

360 RTS

WIC is gonna be realeased for 360 too

wtf, its adventure . and any ninty first party adventure game is better than every pc adventure game period.

dedicated > P2P so ps3 has dedicated :|

where is the action genre on pc where is the fighting, where is the arcade racing where is the platformer, and where is the Jrpg, and where da hell is the sports.

do you even know what adventure games are ?

yeah syberia and those other point an click games how is it enjoyable..... no one knows,

and no one is answering my question, since this generation started where are the other genres i mentioned

Most of the PC adventure games from this decade ended up on Xbox anyway...So you can still play them on 360..

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[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]...when it comes to graphics and pc games. They like you to believe that pc games graphics are soooooo above that it's worth spending $400 on a graphics card or something. When CoD4 demo and UT3 demo came out, the graphics seemed to be underwhelming for both games. You know what their excuse was? "It's a demo and the max settings aren't available." Not only did they say about that when the CoD4 demo came out, they also said that about the UT3 demo. Both games are out, I see no ultra high settings they were talking about...well anyway, just like to point out that hermits over-exaggerate about their games...big time.m3Boarder32

the differences will be bigger two years from now, you have to wait.

LOL and by then consoles with 1080p as the standard will be about a year away from releasing..

Hermits will no longer have resolution to fall back on.

Resolution stops mattering at 1080p anyways...Unless you want to sit 2 feet away from a 32" Monitor..

You do know that running games at a higher resolution requires much more power from the graphics card, meaning lower framerate, or having to lower other graphical settings, right? Guess not........

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[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

you realize that in order for a game to get AAA it has to have quality in the first place, thats simply by definition.

and plz tell me where this "boatload of RTS's" are on the 360....

and he meant the traditional Advetnrure games....

and yes...dedicaded servers > P2P...you will get far less lag on PC games.

amorbis1001

360 RTS

WIC is gonna be realeased for 360 too

wtf, its adventure . and any ninty first party adventure game is better than every pc adventure game period.

dedicated > P2P so ps3 has dedicated :|

where is the action genre on pc where is the fighting, where is the arcade racing where is the platformer, and where is the Jrpg, and where da hell is the sports.

do you even know what adventure games are ?

yeah syberia and those other point an click games how is it enjoyable..... no one knows,

and no one is answering my question, since this generation started where are the other genres i mentioned

so name any nitendo first party adventure which you think can be better than adveture games on conolse. you want racing : try gtr 2 and there are loads of other racing games. for sports, check out pc gaming tab in gs you will finds loads of it

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It doesn't take a genius to build a pc. You can even watch tutorials on youtube or whatever. It's really not hard at all. As for $800 gaming pc to play Crysis and such...either you know a guy who knows a guy who gives pc parts away for half the price...or it isn't as simple as that.
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[QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]...when it comes to graphics and pc games. They like you to believe that pc games graphics are soooooo above that it's worth spending $400 on a graphics card or something. When CoD4 demo and UT3 demo came out, the graphics seemed to be underwhelming for both games. You know what their excuse was? "It's a demo and the max settings aren't available." Not only did they say about that when the CoD4 demo came out, they also said that about the UT3 demo. Both games are out, I see no ultra high settings they were talking about...well anyway, just like to point out that hermits over-exaggerate about their games...big time.Ilived

the differences will be bigger two years from now, you have to wait.

There's no need to wait. There is a big difference as we speak right now.

Christ, what a garbage thread. Put this on your blog or something.

Go read the console reviews for COD4 then go read the PC review of COD4.

That comment right there is complete garbage. The graphics aren't good enough to justify a $400 card, they aren't that much of a difference and you know it.

Oh wow, did I strike a cord?

Pulled out of the IGN review:

"From top to bottom, a great-looking shooter. There are some better-looking games on PC, but not too many"

It's already stated that it isn't the best that the PC has to offer.

Furthermore, the graphics on the PC > 360, so if we use your lame $400 excuse, how can you justify buying a next gen console outside of the Wii?

My point is, the difference is minimal and you know it. Also, the console life cycle is a lot longer than a graphics card's life cycle so that arguement is out of the picture.

Yeah, it's a MULTIPLAT. What do you expect?

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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

you realize that in order for a game to get AAA it has to have quality in the first place, thats simply by definition.

and plz tell me where this "boatload of RTS's" are on the 360....

and he meant the traditional Advetnrure games....

and yes...dedicaded servers > P2P...you will get far less lag on PC games.

naval

360 RTS

WIC is gonna be realeased for 360 too

wtf, its adventure . and any ninty first party adventure game is better than every pc adventure game period.

dedicated > P2P so ps3 has dedicated :|

where is the action genre on pc where is the fighting, where is the arcade racing where is the platformer, and where is the Jrpg, and where da hell is the sports.

do you even know what adventure games are ?

yeah syberia and those other point an click games how is it enjoyable..... no one knows,

and no one is answering my question, since this generation started where are the other genres i mentioned

so name any nitendo first party adventure which you think can be better than adveture games on conolse. you want racing : try gtr 2 and there are loads of other racing games. for sports, check out pc gaming tab in gs you will finds loads of it

Action-Adventure > Adventure

LOL Sports on PC

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[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]...when it comes to graphics and pc games. They like you to believe that pc games graphics are soooooo above that it's worth spending $400 on a graphics card or something. When CoD4 demo and UT3 demo came out, the graphics seemed to be underwhelming for both games. You know what their excuse was? "It's a demo and the max settings aren't available." Not only did they say about that when the CoD4 demo came out, they also said that about the UT3 demo. Both games are out, I see no ultra high settings they were talking about...well anyway, just like to point out that hermits over-exaggerate about their games...big time.trix5817

the differences will be bigger two years from now, you have to wait.

There's no need to wait. There is a big difference as we speak right now.

Christ, what a garbage thread. Put this on your blog or something.

Go read the console reviews for COD4 then go read the PC review of COD4.

That comment right there is complete garbage. The graphics aren't good enough to justify a $400 card, they aren't that much of a difference and you know it.

Oh wow, did I strike a cord?

Pulled out of the IGN review:

"From top to bottom, a great-looking shooter. There are some better-looking games on PC, but not too many"

It's already stated that it isn't the best that the PC has to offer.

Furthermore, the graphics on the PC > 360, so if we use your lame $400 excuse, how can you justify buying a next gen console outside of the Wii?

My point is, the difference is minimal and you know it. Also, the console life cycle is a lot longer than a graphics card's life cycle so that arguement is out of the picture.

Yeah, it's a MULTIPLAT. What do you expect?

What big pc game isn't multiplat these days?

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[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="naval"]

[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]pc gamers spend that extra 400$ for that extra high res texture, omg it is the exact same expereince with higher res textures zomg zomg zomg. :shock:amorbis1001

console gamers spend 60 dollars where i get most pc games for 45$ and play the superior version. so what i can't justify is spending so much more on console games when i get superior pc games for less

superior versions of what fps and rts, I have a console where I get the only versions of real exclusives. mario galaxy anyone

crysis anyone ? max no. of aae/aaae anyone ?

lol pc AAAe are mostly garbage, the AAAe that are not garbage are all out on consoles, (except crysis which will be on consoles son)

where is the real AAA, i could buy a 360 ps3 and wii for the price of a decent pc infact I did, I bought an alienware M5501 in march and I am barly getting anything from crysis inother wards I need to upgrade aready. while I am have some real 1st party exclusives from sony ninty and MS (well not really)

You bought an Alienware?:lol: That explains everything....

real AAA's? Care to explain what "real" AAA's are?

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[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]...when it comes to graphics and pc games. They like you to believe that pc games graphics are soooooo above that it's worth spending $400 on a graphics card or something. When CoD4 demo and UT3 demo came out, the graphics seemed to be underwhelming for both games. You know what their excuse was? "It's a demo and the max settings aren't available." Not only did they say about that when the CoD4 demo came out, they also said that about the UT3 demo. Both games are out, I see no ultra high settings they were talking about...well anyway, just like to point out that hermits over-exaggerate about their games...big time.Ilived

the differences will be bigger two years from now, you have to wait.

There's no need to wait. There is a big difference as we speak right now.

Christ, what a garbage thread. Put this on your blog or something.

Go read the console reviews for COD4 then go read the PC review of COD4.

That comment right there is complete garbage. The graphics aren't good enough to justify a $400 card, they aren't that much of a difference and you know it.

Oh wow, did I strike a cord?

Pulled out of the IGN review:

"From top to bottom, a great-looking shooter. There are some better-looking games on PC, but not too many"

It's already stated that it isn't the best that the PC has to offer.

Furthermore, the graphics on the PC > 360, so if we use your lame $400 excuse, how can you justify buying a next gen console outside of the Wii?

My point is, the difference is minimal and you know it. Also, the console life cycle is a lot longer than a graphics card's life cycle so that arguement is out of the picture.

Yeah, it's a MULTIPLAT. What do you expect?

What big pc game isn't multiplat these days?

I don't know.....maybe this little game called.....Crysis?

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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]...when it comes to graphics and pc games. They like you to believe that pc games graphics are soooooo above that it's worth spending $400 on a graphics card or something. When CoD4 demo and UT3 demo came out, the graphics seemed to be underwhelming for both games. You know what their excuse was? "It's a demo and the max settings aren't available." Not only did they say about that when the CoD4 demo came out, they also said that about the UT3 demo. Both games are out, I see no ultra high settings they were talking about...well anyway, just like to point out that hermits over-exaggerate about their games...big time.trix5817

the differences will be bigger two years from now, you have to wait.

LOL and by then consoles with 1080p as the standard will be about a year away from releasing..

Hermits will no longer have resolution to fall back on.

Resolution stops mattering at 1080p anyways...Unless you want to sit 2 feet away from a 32" Monitor..

You do know that running games at a higher resolution requires much more power from the graphics card, meaning lower framerate, or having to lower other graphical settings, right? Guess not........

How the **** does what I said imply that i don't know more pixels require more horsepower? :|

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Basically, someone went to the store and bought a computer for $800 or so, and said that it couldn't play the games that he was trying to play. PC people seem to say $800 is all you need and they bashed this guy because he bought the computer at a STORE and didn't build it on his own.I had to laugh. Yeah, he bought it at a store because he probably doesn't know how to build his own computer. Don't run around saying you can throw $800 down and have a great PC gaming machine when it simply doesn't work that way. If you have to build it yourself, find all the crap, hey if you don't know how to do that, you can't PC game for $800. Find a pre-built computer that will play them for however much and that's what counts. I didn't build my consoles and the most I paid was $400... use your heads, hermits. Some people have lives and go to work, we don't get aroused by hard drives.

bretthorror

Wow.

This post is stupid beyond belief.

First lets overlook the horrible logical problem of Hermits both having no work to go to, yet simultaneously managing to pay for a habit which is apparently so much more expensive.

Lets also overlook the very mature and reasonable argument Hermits get "aroused by hard drives".

Basically, Hermits suck because people break their cardinal rule: DON'T BUY A PRE BUILT PC".

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[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]...when it comes to graphics and pc games. They like you to believe that pc games graphics are soooooo above that it's worth spending $400 on a graphics card or something. When CoD4 demo and UT3 demo came out, the graphics seemed to be underwhelming for both games. You know what their excuse was? "It's a demo and the max settings aren't available." Not only did they say about that when the CoD4 demo came out, they also said that about the UT3 demo. Both games are out, I see no ultra high settings they were talking about...well anyway, just like to point out that hermits over-exaggerate about their games...big time.Ilived

the differences will be bigger two years from now, you have to wait.

There's no need to wait. There is a big difference as we speak right now.

Christ, what a garbage thread. Put this on your blog or something.

Go read the console reviews for COD4 then go read the PC review of COD4.

That comment right there is complete garbage. The graphics aren't good enough to justify a $400 card, they aren't that much of a difference and you know it.

Oh wow, did I strike a cord?

Pulled out of the IGN review:

"From top to bottom, a great-looking shooter. There are some better-looking games on PC, but not too many"

It's already stated that it isn't the best that the PC has to offer.

Furthermore, the graphics on the PC > 360, so if we use your lame $400 excuse, how can you justify buying a next gen console outside of the Wii?

My point is, the difference is minimal and you know it. Also, the console life cycle is a lot longer than a graphics card's life cycle so that arguement is out of the picture.

Yeah, it's a MULTIPLAT. What do you expect?

What big pc game isn't multiplat these days?

there is a difference between being a multiplat and having a game thats designed to max out hardware go to the consoles....a port of a console game will probably look only slightly better on the PC....however a multiplat that has the PC as its primary platform, is gonna look drasticlly better....

and seeing as how the PC has far more AAE, and AAAE than the consoles...there are obviously many.

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[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]...when it comes to graphics and pc games. They like you to believe that pc games graphics are soooooo above that it's worth spending $400 on a graphics card or something. When CoD4 demo and UT3 demo came out, the graphics seemed to be underwhelming for both games. You know what their excuse was? "It's a demo and the max settings aren't available." Not only did they say about that when the CoD4 demo came out, they also said that about the UT3 demo. Both games are out, I see no ultra high settings they were talking about...well anyway, just like to point out that hermits over-exaggerate about their games...big time.trix5817

the differences will be bigger two years from now, you have to wait.

There's no need to wait. There is a big difference as we speak right now.

Christ, what a garbage thread. Put this on your blog or something.

Go read the console reviews for COD4 then go read the PC review of COD4.

That comment right there is complete garbage. The graphics aren't good enough to justify a $400 card, they aren't that much of a difference and you know it.

Oh wow, did I strike a cord?

Pulled out of the IGN review:

"From top to bottom, a great-looking shooter. There are some better-looking games on PC, but not too many"

It's already stated that it isn't the best that the PC has to offer.

Furthermore, the graphics on the PC > 360, so if we use your lame $400 excuse, how can you justify buying a next gen console outside of the Wii?

My point is, the difference is minimal and you know it. Also, the console life cycle is a lot longer than a graphics card's life cycle so that arguement is out of the picture.

Yeah, it's a MULTIPLAT. What do you expect?

What big pc game isn't multiplat these days?

I don't know.....maybe this little game called.....Crysis?

That you have to play on Medium Settings on the 1680x1050 monitor you purchased a couple months ago? :lol:

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[QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

CoD4 is not the best the pc has to offer, I never said it is. But even the best the pc has to offer(Crysis) lacks in what it was originally advertised to be. The console lifecycle can't keep up, but that's not what I am saying. I'm saying it's close enough. I'm saying the difference is not worth it in the end.

Ilived

You've never played Crysis, don't attempt to think you know it. Even on high settings it blows away COD4 on MAX settings for the PC. It looks better than Bioshock, and Gears of War for the PC, and is the benchmark for graphics for a long, long time to come.

And it isn't close enough. By the time the PS2 and original Xbox hit halfway through their life cycles, their GPU's where already low end, and their games graphically didn't match up with what the PC was coming out with.

If you are looking for graphics, then the difference is visible and is worth it at the end of it.

I HAVE played Crysis. The graphical differences willi be close enough this time around as it takes a company like EA to pay for a game like Crysis. There aren't that many companies out there that can do that you know.

So that's your excuse now? That only companies like EA combined with Crytek could make a game like that?

Same goes with consoles, pretty much with everything.

Got anything you want to add?

You are the one expecting a huge difference in a year. I'm just pointing out that it's not going to happen anymore.

Who said in a year? Did I ever say in a year. Will someone in this thread please quote me when I said in a year.

I said in the life cycle of a console, and you bet, it will happen.

If you say so. I guess we'll see, but to the point...you guys get too high off graphics you think that console gamers can never experience it even though for right now there is barely any difference at all.

This is the way it has always been.........

Soon you'll see PC's start to pull away again though in the graphical department, as always. PC Gamers get too high off graphics? Half the topics in SW are about 360 games looking better than PS3 games or vice versa. Please, open your eyes.

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[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]...when it comes to graphics and pc games. They like you to believe that pc games graphics are soooooo above that it's worth spending $400 on a graphics card or something. When CoD4 demo and UT3 demo came out, the graphics seemed to be underwhelming for both games. You know what their excuse was? "It's a demo and the max settings aren't available." Not only did they say about that when the CoD4 demo came out, they also said that about the UT3 demo. Both games are out, I see no ultra high settings they were talking about...well anyway, just like to point out that hermits over-exaggerate about their games...big time.trix5817

the differences will be bigger two years from now, you have to wait.

There's no need to wait. There is a big difference as we speak right now.

Christ, what a garbage thread. Put this on your blog or something.

Go read the console reviews for COD4 then go read the PC review of COD4.

That comment right there is complete garbage. The graphics aren't good enough to justify a $400 card, they aren't that much of a difference and you know it.

Oh wow, did I strike a cord?

Pulled out of the IGN review:

"From top to bottom, a great-looking shooter. There are some better-looking games on PC, but not too many"

It's already stated that it isn't the best that the PC has to offer.

Furthermore, the graphics on the PC > 360, so if we use your lame $400 excuse, how can you justify buying a next gen console outside of the Wii?

My point is, the difference is minimal and you know it. Also, the console life cycle is a lot longer than a graphics card's life cycle so that arguement is out of the picture.

Yeah, it's a MULTIPLAT. What do you expect?

What big pc game isn't multiplat these days?

I don't know.....maybe this little game called.....Crysis?

Oh Crysis oh joy! So now I have to wait every three years for a game to come out that really tests my graphics card?

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What big pc game isn't multiplat these days?

Ilived

You do realize the PC has more exclusives than any other system?

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[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]...when it comes to graphics and pc games. They like you to believe that pc games graphics are soooooo above that it's worth spending $400 on a graphics card or something. When CoD4 demo and UT3 demo came out, the graphics seemed to be underwhelming for both games. You know what their excuse was? "It's a demo and the max settings aren't available." Not only did they say about that when the CoD4 demo came out, they also said that about the UT3 demo. Both games are out, I see no ultra high settings they were talking about...well anyway, just like to point out that hermits over-exaggerate about their games...big time.m3Boarder32

the differences will be bigger two years from now, you have to wait.

There's no need to wait. There is a big difference as we speak right now.

Christ, what a garbage thread. Put this on your blog or something.

Go read the console reviews for COD4 then go read the PC review of COD4.

That comment right there is complete garbage. The graphics aren't good enough to justify a $400 card, they aren't that much of a difference and you know it.

Oh wow, did I strike a cord?

Pulled out of the IGN review:

"From top to bottom, a great-looking shooter. There are some better-looking games on PC, but not too many"

It's already stated that it isn't the best that the PC has to offer.

Furthermore, the graphics on the PC > 360, so if we use your lame $400 excuse, how can you justify buying a next gen console outside of the Wii?

My point is, the difference is minimal and you know it. Also, the console life cycle is a lot longer than a graphics card's life cycle so that arguement is out of the picture.

Yeah, it's a MULTIPLAT. What do you expect?

What big pc game isn't multiplat these days?

I don't know.....maybe this little game called.....Crysis?

That you have to play on Medium Settings on the 1680x1050 monitor you purchased a couple months ago? :lol:

I can play it on high...so can plenty of other people......

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so name any nitendo first party adventure which you think can be better than adveture games on conolse. you want racing : try gtr 2 and there are loads of other racing games. for sports, check out pc gaming tab in gs you will finds loads of it

naval

metroid prime is better than every pc adventure

granturismo and forza is better than any pc racer

sports :lol:

action :lol:

shooter (I give pc that CS:S is king)

rts (I give you that for starcraft)

fighting :lol:

simulation (flight sim is there for pc)

platformer :lol:

rpg dragon quest FF series and mass effect kills every pc rpg (although mass effect will head to pc one day)

etc etc.

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#96 trix5817
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[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="elbow2k"][QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]...when it comes to graphics and pc games. They like you to believe that pc games graphics are soooooo above that it's worth spending $400 on a graphics card or something. When CoD4 demo and UT3 demo came out, the graphics seemed to be underwhelming for both games. You know what their excuse was? "It's a demo and the max settings aren't available." Not only did they say about that when the CoD4 demo came out, they also said that about the UT3 demo. Both games are out, I see no ultra high settings they were talking about...well anyway, just like to point out that hermits over-exaggerate about their games...big time.m3Boarder32

the differences will be bigger two years from now, you have to wait.

There's no need to wait. There is a big difference as we speak right now.

Christ, what a garbage thread. Put this on your blog or something.

Go read the console reviews for COD4 then go read the PC review of COD4.

That comment right there is complete garbage. The graphics aren't good enough to justify a $400 card, they aren't that much of a difference and you know it.

Oh wow, did I strike a cord?

Pulled out of the IGN review:

"From top to bottom, a great-looking shooter. There are some better-looking games on PC, but not too many"

It's already stated that it isn't the best that the PC has to offer.

Furthermore, the graphics on the PC > 360, so if we use your lame $400 excuse, how can you justify buying a next gen console outside of the Wii?

My point is, the difference is minimal and you know it. Also, the console life cycle is a lot longer than a graphics card's life cycle so that arguement is out of the picture.

Yeah, it's a MULTIPLAT. What do you expect?

What big pc game isn't multiplat these days?

I don't know.....maybe this little game called.....Crysis?

That you have to play on Medium Settings on the 1680x1050 monitor you purchased a couple months ago? :lol:

Actually.....I run it on high at 1280*1024 on my sub $1000 PC (which I bought in January, so it's even cheaper now). How's running CoD4 at 600p?:lol:

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#97 trix5817
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so name any nitendo first party adventure which you think can be better than adveture games on conolse. you want racing : try gtr 2 and there are loads of other racing games. for sports, check out pc gaming tab in gs you will finds loads of it

amorbis1001

metroid prime is better than every pc adventure

granturismo and forza is better than any pc racer

sports :lol:

action :lol:

shooter (I give pc that CS:S is king)

rts (I give you that for starcraft)

fighting :lol:

simulation (flight sim is there for pc)

platformer :lol:

rpg dragon quest FF series and mass effect kills every pc rpg (although mass effect will head to pc one day)

etc etc.

Wow.....so much ignorance in one post. You're not even worth it.

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#98 Danm_999
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Action-Adventure > Adventure

m3Boarder32

Translation: I have lost the empirical argument, so I shall shift it to an opinionated ranking of genres.

:lol:

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What big pc game isn't multiplat these days?

Danm_999

You do realize the PC has more exclusives than any other system?

But how many of them actually standout graphically from the rest? Of course 1...and that's a maybe.

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#100 Danm_999
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metroid prime is better than every pc adventure

amorbis1001

Again, Metroid Prime is not part of the Adventure genre, it's an action adventure.