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#301 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]And most importanly NO EXPANSIONS which would eliminate 3 games on your list.
Hewkii
Opposing Fronts and Forged Alliance don't require the original game to play them.

neither does the Galactic Civ expansion.(i don't think... maybe i am wrong)

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#302 Gamingcucumber
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[QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]

Allright:

Mass Effect (Hybrid): 8.5

Wario Ware (Party game)9.1

Forza Motorsport 2 (Racing): 9.2

Mario Galaxy (Platformer): 9.5

Halo 3 (FPS): 9.5

Rock Band (Rythm game): 9.0

Metroid Prime 3 (FPA): 8.5

SuperPaper Mario (Hybrid): 8.8

Zak&Wiki (Adventure) :8.5

Puzzle Quest (Puzzle): 9.0

Ace Combat 6 (Flight): 8.5

That's both high scoring and has a lot of variation. Not to mention all the games that flopped on this site but did well on a majority of others including games such as Uncharted and Ratchet. And most importanly NO EXPANSIONS which would eliminate 3 games on your list.

Danm_999

1) Why bother arguing, we already have all the numbers for AAE games tallied up. You two don't need to list them, the PC wins.

2) There is more variation in genres on the PC.

3) Why don't expansions count?

1.Uh yeah, you see does it take so long to figure out the fact that the PC will always get more games? Which improves the chance of getting a couple of more 8.0+ games. Besides you will find that consoles top games really does stand a chance against the top PC games. ( that include the Cod4 360 version, Las Vegas, Oblivion and such. PC doesn't win since most of the really really big time games are getting dated or already are with a few exceptions. In fact instead of running out and upgrading my computer for Crysis I'm enjoying Galaxy and Mass Effect.

2. Oh really, you just proved that listing the PCs main genres. RTS, FPS and MMORPGs. You are completely right. Consoles has always had more genres and more games for different tastes.

3. Because an expansion =/= a new game.

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#303 horrowhip
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1.Uh yeah, you see does it take so long to figure out the fact that the PC will always get more games? Which improves the chance of getting a couple of more 8.0+ games. Besides you will find that consoles top games really does stand a chance against the top PC games. ( that include the Cod4 360 version, Las Vegas, Oblivion and such. PC doesn't win since most of the really really big time games are getting dated or already are with a few exceptions. In fact instead of running out and upgrading my computer for Crysis I'm enjoying Galaxy and Mass Effect.

2. Oh really, you just proved that listing the PCs main genres. RTS, FPS and MMORPGs. You are completely right. Consoles has always had more genres and more games for different tastes.

3. Because an expansion =/= a new game.

Gamingcucumber

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Why don't you tell that to the developers who worked on it for a year, adding more content than the original game had, revamping the gameplay and improving the graphics. It's as much a new game as a sequel is. Unless you don't think sequels count, then we can count half theconsole games off that list....

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#304 Danm_999
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1.Uh yeah, you see does it take so long to figure out the fact that the PC will always get more games?Which improves the chance of getting a couple of more 8.0+ games. Besides you will find that consoles top games really does stand a chance against the top PC games. ( that include the Cod4 360 version, Las Vegas, Oblivion and such. PC doesn't win since most of the really really big time games are getting dated or already are with a few exceptions. In fact instead of running out and upgrading my computer for Crysis I'm enjoying Galaxy and Mass Effect.Gamingcucumber

So you actually have no reason, just that you prefer the AAEs listed on consoles. Hey that's fine, just don't pretend it is an empirical fact.

2. Oh really, you just proved that listing the PCs main genres. RTS, FPS and MMORPGs. You are completely right. Consoles has always had more genres and more games for different tastes.Gamingcucumber

Ok, lets dispell this "PC has no diversity" crap right here.

The PC has 5 genres represented in it's AAAE games. (Shooter, RTS, MMORPG, Strategy and Racer)

The 360 has 2. (Shooter and Racer)

The PS3 has 0.

The Wii has 2. (Platformer and Puzzle)

Combining all consoles genre diversity, the PC still wins 5 to 4.

But what about AAE games?

The PC has 12 genres (Racer, Strategy, RTS, Sport, RPG, Action Adventure, FPS, MMORPG, Flight Sim, Adventure, Submarine Sim, Regular Sims). I'm also being incredibly generous condensing all strategy games into one genre there.

The 360 has 6 genres (Sport, Racer, Fighter, RPG, Action Adventure, Flight).

The PS3 has 2 genres (Action Adventure, Shooter)

The Wii has 4 genres (Shooter, Puzzle, Adventure and RPG)

No console has the same amount of genre diversity in its exclusives. Combined, they still don't (since you cancel out overlapping consoles genres). The PC wins 12 to 9.

All of this was done through Nerdman's thread.

3. Because an expansion =/= a new game.

Gamingcucumber

Yes it does.

Most expansions have more content than a console game and change the game mechanics significantly. Many expansions do not require the original game either. GameSpot feels they are a new game, hence they give them a review score. The only reason I can fathom you not wanting to count them is because it weakens your little argument.

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Instead of looking at multiplats like COD4 or UT3 as examples of PC graphics, why don't you look at games like...oh I don't know...like Crysis?Teufelhuhn
I think COD4 looks spectacular on the 360 and pretty darn close by golly to the PC...why cant you oh admit that? ;)
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Let's look at the games that scored 9+ for each consoles/PC. Actually, let's ONLY look at exclusives (list is a week old, fill in the blanks): PC: Wow:BC -MMORPG Glactic Civ II: DA/DL - TBS GTR2 - Racing Company of Heroes - RTS That's four genre. X360: Halo 3 - FPS Forza 2 - Racing PDZ - FPS That's two genre. Wii: Super Mario Galaxy - Platformer Wario Ware: Smooth Moves - Minigames That's two genre. PS3: Sorry. :( Oh, oh, but that's only the TOP SCORING games. What about the AA exclusives? PC: Race WTCC - Racing Medieval II: Total War - TBS/RTS hybred Warhammer 40,000 Dawn of War: DC - RTS NHL: Eastside Hockey Manager 2007 - Sports Supreme Commander - RTS Europa Universalis III - TBS Star Wars: Empire at War - RTS Neverwinter Nights 2 - RPG Civ IV: Warlords - TBS Supreme Commander: FA - RTS The Witcher - RPG Civ IV: BTS - TBS STALKER - FPS Rome: Total War Alex - TBS/RTS hybred GT Legends - Racing MS Flight Sim X - Flight Sim LoRT: SoA - MMORPG Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened - Adventure/mystery Silient Hunter: WotP - Sub Sim The Ship - errr...FPS? Take Command: 2nd Manassas - TBS Dominions 3: The awakening - not sure Guild Wars Nightfall - MMO/co-op Guild Wars Factions - MMO/co-op Heroes of Might and Magic V - TBS Spellforce 2: Shadow Wars - RTS SWAT4: TSS - FPS City of Villians - MMORPG Star Wars: Empire at War: FoC - MMORPG Sid Meiers Railroads - Economic Sim Battlefield 2142 - FPS DEFCON: Everybody dies - Strategy (misc) DarkStar One - Space Sim Space Rangers 2: Rise of the Dominators - RTS/RPG Battlefield 2: Special Forcers - FPS RACE 07 - Racing Neverwinter Nights 2: MotB - RPG Company of Heroes: OF - RTS Medieval II: Kingdoms - TBS/RTS hybred Guild Wars: EotN - RPG Trackmania United - Racing Sam & Max Ep6 - Adventure Baseball Mogul 2008 - Sports Act of War: High Treason - RTS Hearts of Iron II: Doomsday - RTS The Sims 2: Open for Business - Life Sim PC Genres represented:
Racing TBS/RTS Hybred RTS TBS RPG Sports Flight Sim Adventure/mystery Sub sim MMO Economic Sim Strategy (Misc) (DEFCon is it's own thing) Space Sim Life Sim
Now for the Xbox360: Project Gotham Racing 3 - Racing Dead or Alive 4 - Fighting Kameo: Elements of Power - Adventure Ace Combat 6 - Flight Game PGR 4 - Racing Dead Rising - Horror Saints Row - TPS MotoGP - Racing Mass Effect - RPG X360 Genres represented: RPG Racing Fighting Adventure Flight Game Horror Wii: Super Paper Mario - Platform Zack & Wiki - Adventure Metriod Prime 3 - FPS Super Monkey Ball - Party Game Genres represented by the Wii: Platform Adventure FPS Party Game
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#307 Danm_999
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Let's look at the games that scored 9+ for each consoles/PC. Actually, let's ONLY look at exclusives (list is a week old, fill in the blanks): PC: Wow:BC -MMORPG Glactic Civ II: DA/DL - TBS GTR2 - Racing Company of Heroes - RTS That's four genre. X360: Halo 3 - FPS Forza 2 - Racing PDZ - FPS That's two genre. Wii: Super Mario Galaxy - Platformer Wario Ware: Smooth Moves - Minigames That's two genre. PS3: Sorry. :( Oh, oh, but that's only the TOP SCORING games. What about the AA exclusives? PC: Race WTCC - Racing Medieval II: Total War - TBS/RTS hybred Warhammer 40,000 Dawn of War: DC - RTS NHL: Eastside Hockey Manager 2007 - Sports Supreme Commander - RTS Europa Universalis III - TBS Star Wars: Empire at War - RTS Neverwinter Nights 2 - RPG Civ IV: Warlords - TBS Supreme Commander: FA - RTS The Witcher - RPG Civ IV: BTS - TBS STALKER - FPS Rome: Total War Alex - TBS/RTS hybred GT Legends - Racing MS Flight Sim X - Flight Sim LoRT: SoA - MMORPG Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened - Adventure/mystery Silient Hunter: WotP - Sub Sim The Ship - errr...FPS? Take Command: 2nd Manassas - TBS Dominions 3: The awakening - not sure Guild Wars Nightfall - MMO/co-op Guild Wars Factions - MMO/co-op Heroes of Might and Magic V - TBS Spellforce 2: Shadow Wars - RTS SWAT4: TSS - FPS City of Villians - MMORPG Star Wars: Empire at War: FoC - MMORPG Sid Meiers Railroads - Economic Sim Battlefield 2142 - FPS DEFCON: Everybody dies - Strategy (misc) DarkStar One - Space Sim Space Rangers 2: Rise of the Dominators - RTS/RPG Battlefield 2: Special Forcers - FPS RACE 07 - Racing Neverwinter Nights 2: MotB - RPG Company of Heroes: OF - RTS Medieval II: Kingdoms - TBS/RTS hybred Guild Wars: EotN - RPG Trackmania United - Racing Sam & Max Ep6 - Adventure Baseball Mogul 2008 - Sports Act of War: High Treason - RTS Hearts of Iron II: Doomsday - RTS The Sims 2: Open for Business - Life Sim PC Genres represented:
Racing TBS/RTS Hybred RTS TBS RPG Sports Flight Sim Adventure/mystery Sub sim MMO Economic Sim Strategy (Misc) (DEFCon is it's own thing) Space Sim Life Sim
Now for the Xbox360: Project Gotham Racing 3 - Racing Dead or Alive 4 - Fighting Kameo: Elements of Power - Adventure Ace Combat 6 - Flight Game PGR 4 - Racing Dead Rising - Horror Saints Row - TPS MotoGP - Racing Mass Effect - RPG X360 Genres represented: RPG Racing Fighting Adventure Flight Game Horror Wii: Super Paper Mario - Platform Zack & Wiki - Adventure Metriod Prime 3 - FPS Super Monkey Ball - Party Game Genres represented by the Wii: Platform Adventure FPS Party Game br0kenrabbit

Sweet, I was looking for this, now I know where it is.

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#308 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Instead of looking at multiplats like COD4 or UT3 as examples of PC graphics, why don't you look at games like...oh I don't know...like Crysis?Heil68
I think COD4 looks spectacular on the 360 and pretty darn close by golly to the PC...why cant you oh admit that? ;)

I can but the fact that the 7800 GTX can max the game out at 1680x1050 resolution doesn't help your arguement... It doesn't use the latest hardware....

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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Wartzay"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

you hermits resort to the same stupid tactics....You guys say stupidpoop like "PC has more AA+ games than all consoles combined"...But if your going to combine all 3 consoles, then games like The Darkness and VF5 would now be console exclusives..

m3Boarder32

It does have more AAEs than all consoles combined.

PC:

48 AAEs

360:

9 AAEs

PS3:

4 AAEs

Wii:

4 AAEs

= 17 AAEs

Console Only Multiplats

+ Burnout Revenge

+ Call of Duty 3

+ VF5

+ Eternal Sonata

+ Table Tennis

+ The Darkness

+ Need for Speed Most Wanted

+ Fight Night Round 3

+ Ridge Racer 6

+ WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2007

+ The Bigs

+Tekken 5

+ Ridge Racer 7

+ Twilight Princess

+ Mercury Meltdown Revolution

+ Trauma Centre 2

= 16 AAEs.

16 + 17 = 33AAEs.

48 > 33.

smackdown approved.

Hahahahahaa.

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HAHAHA no :|

BTW, Nermdman has SupCom listed as PC Exclusive, it's no longer PC Exclusive. It was announced for 360 a couple weeks ago.

  1. Halo 3
  2. GRAW
  3. Forza 2
  4. Rock Band
  5. PDZ
  6. Guitar Hero 2
  7. PGR3
  8. DOA4
  9. Burnout Revenge
  10. Call of Duty 3
  11. Kameo
  12. Mass Effect
  13. VF5
  14. Ace Combat 6
  15. NBA 2k8
  16. PGR4
  17. Eternal Sonata
  18. Table Tennis
  19. The Darkness
  20. Dead Rising
  21. NBA 2k6
  22. Fight Night Round 3
  23. Saints Row
  24. NHL 2k7
  25. Tiger Woods PGA 07
  26. MotoGP 06
  27. NHL 2k7
  28. NBA 2k7
  29. Ridge Racer 6
  30. WWE SmackDown vs RAW 2007
  31. Def Jam Icon
  32. Guitar Hero III
  33. NHL 08
  34. NBA Street Homecourt
  35. The Bigs
  36. NCAA Football 08
  37. Ninja Gaiden Sigma
  38. Resistance
  39. Warhawk
  40. Tekken 5
  41. MLB 07 The Show
  42. Uncharted
  43. heavenly Sword
  44. Ridge Racer 7
  45. Super Mario Galaxy
  46. WarioWare Smooth Moves
  47. Super Paper Mario
  48. Twilight Princess
  49. Zack & Wiki
  50. Mercury Meltdown
  51. Metroid Prime 3
  52. Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
  53. Medal of Honor Heroes 2
  54. MLB Power Pros
  55. Trauma Center
  56. The Sims 2: Castaway

And then there are the console AA+ Games that aren't even AA on PC like:

  1. FIFA 08
  2. Madden 08
  3. Virtua Tennis 3
  4. Top Spin 2
  5. Tiger Woods 07
  6. Guitar Hero III
  7. Winning Eleven 2007
  8. Lost Planet
  9. NHL 08
  10. 2006 FIFA WOrld Cup
  11. NHL 07
  12. Rayman Raving Rabbids
  13. RE4 Wii

And for 2007 alone, it's not even close........

Yep, console gaming wins

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#310 Wartzay
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I propose that the 360 is not allowed to use forza 3 or PDZ 2 or PGR 5 or saints row 2 or kameo 2 or any halo sequel as an xbox exclusive when they come out. Also, you can remove PGR 4 from that list up there cecause its the same game as PGR 3 with updated graphics and a few new cars.

EDIT: This also means resistance 2 for ps3, plus any other rehashes they might release

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#311 Danm_999
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HAHAHA no :|

BTW, Nermdman has SupCom listed as PC Exclusive, it's no longer PC Exclusive. It was announced for 360 a couple weeks ago.m3Boarder32

Ok, so its 47 vs 33 for AAEs. Happy?

  1. Halo 3
  2. GRAW On PC
  3. Forza 2
  4. Rock Band
  5. PDZ
  6. Guitar Hero 2
  7. PGR3
  8. DOA4
  9. Burnout Revenge
  10. Call of Duty 3
  11. Kameo
  12. Mass Effect
  13. VF5
  14. Ace Combat 6
  15. NBA 2k8
  16. PGR4
  17. Eternal Sonata
  18. Table Tennis
  19. The Darkness
  20. Dead Rising
  21. NBA 2k6
  22. Fight Night Round 3
  23. Saints Row
  24. NHL 2k7 You list this one twice, and it's on PC
  25. Tiger Woods PGA 07 On PC
  26. MotoGP 06
  27. NBA 2k7
  28. Ridge Racer 6
  29. WWE SmackDown vs RAW 2007
  30. Def Jam Icon
  31. Guitar Hero III On PC
  32. NHL 08 On PC
  33. NBA Street Homecourt
  34. The Bigs
  35. NCAA Football 08
  36. Ninja Gaiden Sigma
  37. Resistance
  38. Warhawk
  39. Tekken 5
  40. MLB 07 The Show
  41. Uncharted
  42. heavenly Sword
  43. Ridge Racer 7
  44. Super Mario Galaxy
  45. WarioWare Smooth Moves
  46. Super Paper Mario
  47. Twilight Princess
  48. Zack & Wiki
  49. Mercury Meltdown
  50. Metroid Prime 3
  51. Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
  52. Medal of Honor Heroes 2
  53. MLB Power Pros
  54. Trauma Center
  55. The Sims 2: Castaway On PC m3Boarder32

So subtracting the games on this list that are on the PC, the tally comes to 49 vs. 47 + 6 (since you included both AAAs and AAs I should stick the PCs 6 in). Still, no winner for console gaming, even when I'm being incredibly generous and ignoring many of these console games shouldn't count as they are horribly derivative (ie, 07 and 08 sport games).

53 to 49. The PC wins. Good day sir. And it should really be much lower, since so many of those console sport games are ridiculously derivative.

And then there are the console AA+ Games that aren't even AA on PC like:

  1. FIFA 08
  2. Madden 08
  3. Virtua Tennis 3
  4. Top Spin 2
  5. Tiger Woods 07
  6. Guitar Hero III
  7. Winning Eleven 2007
  8. Lost Planet
  9. NHL 08
  10. 2006 FIFA WOrld Cup
  11. NHL 07
  12. Rayman Raving Rabbids
  13. RE4 Wii

And for 2007 alone, it's not even close........

m3Boarder32

All these games are on PC.....

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ahhha m3Boarder32 you were

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[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]PC games being cheaper is ruled out by the fact a half decent rig will set you back close to $1000.TeamR

Yeah, thats pretty funny because unless you only have one console on an old 13" crummy TV, you'll be spending the exact same amount of money.

All 3 consoles = around $800 not including ANY games or any extras like controllers or dvd kits.

Nice HDTV = $1-3000

And even after you spend all that money, your setup still doesnt have HALF the features as your average PC

Are you telling me you don't have a TV in your house as well as a computer? Or I suppose you watch TV on your PC?
Fact is at the end of the day you dont have to buy anything more than a console if you don't want or need to.

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[QUOTE="TeamR"]

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]PC games being cheaper is ruled out by the fact a half decent rig will set you back close to $1000.Burnsmiesta

Yeah, thats pretty funny because unless you only have one console on an old 13" crummy TV, you'll be spending the exact same amount of money.

All 3 consoles = around $800 not including ANY games or any extras like controllers or dvd kits.

Nice HDTV = $1-3000

And even after you spend all that money, your setup still doesnt have HALF the features as your average PC

Are you telling me you don't have a TV in your house as well as a computer? Or I suppose you watch TV on your PC?
Fact is at the end of the day you dont have to buy anything more than a console if you don't want or need to.

At the end of the day, you don't have to buy a monster PC rig if you don't want or need to.

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[QUOTE="TeamR"]

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]PC games being cheaper is ruled out by the fact a half decent rig will set you back close to $1000.Burnsmiesta

Yeah, thats pretty funny because unless you only have one console on an old 13" crummy TV, you'll be spending the exact same amount of money.

All 3 consoles = around $800 not including ANY games or any extras like controllers or dvd kits.

Nice HDTV = $1-3000

And even after you spend all that money, your setup still doesnt have HALF the features as your average PC

Are you telling me you don't have a TV in your house as well as a computer? Or I suppose you watch TV on your PC?
Fact is at the end of the day you dont have to buy anything more than a console if you don't want or need to.

How about I give you the specs for a from scratch PC just as good as mine. If you already have a PC you probably already have a monitor but if it sucks then you can always plug it into your TV. If both suck, well... I can find something pretty good.

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz - $189.99

PNY GeForce 8800GT 512MB - $269.99

Patriot 2GB (2 x 1GB) - $54.99

Seagate Barracuda120GB 7200 RPM - $47.99

COOLMAX 650W Power Supply - $99.00

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $49.99

MSI NVIDIA nForce 650i ATX Intel Motherboard - $104.99

Total - $816.94 before rebates.

$791.94 after rebates.

It's fairly upgradeable because it supports SLI.

Slightly better than my computer with the exception of less RAM. High clock speed stock on the CPU, better GPU(I have the 8800 GTS 640 MB)

I am running Crysis at all Very High settings at around 30 FPS. Less than the 3 consoles. Just wanted to prove that it is possible to get a High end computer for fairly cheap.

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I'd hate to break it to you, but most good cards are only rouglhy 200. is that a lot? Yes. Is it worth it? Yes.
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#318 Burnsmiesta
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Im in the UK though and over here you'd be hard pressed to get a decent rig for under a grand. And even then it won't be high end. Tax really screws us.
At the end of the day your going to need a high end rig if you want to get the most out of Crysis etc.
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Im in the UK though and over here you'd be hard pressed to get a decent rig for under a grand. And even then it won't be high end. Tax really screws us.
At the end of the day your going to need a high end rig if you want to get the most out of Crysis etc.
Burnsmiesta

Crysis is cheaper then new console games

so I guess

Crysis> every console game that cost more then Crysis

:P

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#320 Fire_Hurts
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How bout you play the games instead of complaining about them
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#321 horrowhip
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Im in the UK though and over here you'd be hard pressed to get a decent rig for under a grand. And even then it won't be high end. Tax really screws us.
At the end of the day your going to need a high end rig if you want to get the most out of Crysis etc.
Burnsmiesta

Well. I'm sure newegg accepts pounds and euros.

If not, here is one...

http://www.aria.co.uk/

I will edit with all the components listed in their prices....

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz - £94.95

EVGA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB - £145.95

Patriot 2GB PC2-6400 C4 Extreme Performance - £32.45

160GB Seagate Barracuda - £27.05

OCZ 600W Power Supply - £44.95

MSI P6N SLi FI V2 NF650i SLi S 775 - £57.75

Arianet Vino Case - £13.95

To be quite honest, this is a better PC. Bigger HDD, and better brand for the GPU

Total price - £417.05

Converted to USD - $858.50

Not that bad.

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#322 Burnsmiesta
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IMO consoles are just a far more practical investment of my money. I've nothing against PC gamers. Different horses for courses.
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#323 Vandalvideo
Member since 2003 • 39655 Posts
Im in the UK though and over here you'd be hard pressed to get a decent rig for under a grand. And even then it won't be high end. Tax really screws us.
At the end of the day your going to need a high end rig if you want to get the most out of Crysis etc.
Burnsmiesta
You don't need a high end rig to have a game that looks far greater than anything that the consoles can achieve. You don't need maxxed out Crysis in DX10 to utterly decimate consoles. Besides, in the UK, console games are TWICE as expesnive as PC games. In the UK, PC gaming is probably cheaper overall than anywhere else.
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#324 TekkenMaster606
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No we're not. :lol:
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#325 imprezawrx500
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$400 for a graphics card :lol: half that and you beat consoles and 1/4 and you match consoles
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#326 imprezawrx500
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at what resolution did cod 4 ran consoles ?naval

lower than my 17" monitor can handle :lol: wasn't it 640p?

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#327 Fire_Hurts
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people are full of crap, governments are full of crap, society and social standards are full of crap

you see? pc games are not your concern

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#328 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]pc gamers spend that extra 400$ for that extra high res texture, omg it is the exact same expereince with higher res textures zomg zomg zomg. :shock:naval

console gamers spend 60 dollars where i get most pc games for 45$ and play the superior version. so what i can't justify is spending so much more on console games when i get pc games for less

exactly cod4 here in nz pc version $100 ps3 $130 x360 $120 that start to add up and fast and then there is blacksite area 51 which is $80 on pc and $130 on x360 :lol: $50 more for the exact same game

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#329 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

HAHAHA no :|

BTW, Nermdman has SupCom listed as PC Exclusive, it's no longer PC Exclusive. It was announced for 360 a couple weeks ago.Danm_999

Ok, so its 47 vs 33 for AAEs. Happy?

  1. Halo 3
  2. GRAW On PC
  3. Forza 2
  4. Rock Band
  5. PDZ
  6. Guitar Hero 2
  7. PGR3
  8. DOA4
  9. Burnout Revenge
  10. Call of Duty 3
  11. Kameo
  12. Mass Effect
  13. VF5
  14. Ace Combat 6
  15. NBA 2k8
  16. PGR4
  17. Eternal Sonata
  18. Table Tennis
  19. The Darkness
  20. Dead Rising
  21. NBA 2k6
  22. Fight Night Round 3
  23. Saints Row
  24. NHL 2k7 You list this one twice, and it's on PC
  25. Tiger Woods PGA 07 On PC
  26. MotoGP 06
  27. NBA 2k7
  28. Ridge Racer 6
  29. WWE SmackDown vs RAW 2007
  30. Def Jam Icon
  31. Guitar Hero III On PC
  32. NHL 08 On PC
  33. NBA Street Homecourt
  34. The Bigs
  35. NCAA Football 08
  36. Ninja Gaiden Sigma
  37. Resistance
  38. Warhawk
  39. Tekken 5
  40. MLB 07 The Show
  41. Uncharted
  42. heavenly Sword
  43. Ridge Racer 7
  44. Super Mario Galaxy
  45. WarioWare Smooth Moves
  46. Super Paper Mario
  47. Twilight Princess
  48. Zack & Wiki
  49. Mercury Meltdown
  50. Metroid Prime 3
  51. Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
  52. Medal of Honor Heroes 2
  53. MLB Power Pros
  54. Trauma Center
  55. The Sims 2: Castaway On PC m3Boarder32

So subtracting the games on this list that are on the PC, the tally comes to 49 vs. 47 + 6 (since you included both AAAs and AAs I should stick the PCs 6 in). Still, no winner for console gaming, even when I'm being incredibly generous and ignoring many of these console games shouldn't count as they are horribly derivative (ie, 07 and 08 sport games).

53 to 49. The PC wins. Good day sir. And it should really be much lower, since so many of those console sport games are ridiculously derivative.

And then there are the console AA+ Games that aren't even AA on PC like:

  1. FIFA 08
  2. Madden 08
  3. Virtua Tennis 3
  4. Top Spin 2
  5. Tiger Woods 07
  6. Guitar Hero III
  7. Winning Eleven 2007
  8. Lost Planet
  9. NHL 08
  10. 2006 FIFA WOrld Cup
  11. NHL 07
  12. Rayman Raving Rabbids
  13. RE4 Wii

And for 2007 alone, it's not even close........

m3Boarder32

All these games are on PC.....

:lol: Nice one Danm_999.... that's true ownage.

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#330 RK-Mara
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IMO consoles are just a far more practical investment of my money. I've nothing against PC gamers. Different horses for courses.Burnsmiesta

You are saying that a gaming console is a better investment than a PC. Computers are not only for gaming you know.

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#331 zeus_gb
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...when it comes to graphics and pc games. They like you to believe that pc games graphics are soooooo above that it's worth spending $400 on a graphics card or something. When CoD4 demo and UT3 demo came out, the graphics seemed to be underwhelming for both games. You know what their excuse was? "It's a demo and the max settings aren't available." Not only did they say about that when the CoD4 demo came out, they also said that about the UT3 demo. Both games are out, I see no ultra high settings they were talking about...well anyway, just like to point out that hermits over-exaggerate about their games...big time.Ilived
Yawn....complete generalisation!

Both games are multi platform so they're not exactly prime examples of PC graphics.

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#332 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]Im in the UK though and over here you'd be hard pressed to get a decent rig for under a grand. And even then it won't be high end. Tax really screws us.
At the end of the day your going to need a high end rig if you want to get the most out of Crysis etc.
horrowhip

Well. I'm sure newegg accepts pounds and euros.

If not, here is one...

http://www.aria.co.uk/

I will edit with all the components listed in their prices....

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz - £94.95

EVGA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB - £145.95

Patriot 2GB PC2-6400 C4 Extreme Performance - £32.45

160GB Seagate Barracuda - £27.05

OCZ 600W Power Supply - £44.95

MSI P6N SLi FI V2 NF650i SLi S 775 - £57.75

Arianet Vino Case - £13.95

To be quite honest, this is a better PC. Bigger HDD, and better brand for the GPU

Total price - £417.05

Converted to USD - $858.50

Not that bad.

Not to mention that game prices do reduce the diffrence though. I took a liberty of looking at some UK prices and



Cod4...£10 more on 360
Orange box £20 more on 360

or comparing some exclusives

Halo 3 costs £10 more than Crysis (and at launch the diffrence was £15)
Mass Effect costs £20 more than Witcher





With diffrences like those 10 PCgames +8800gt will cost the same as 10 360 games

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#333 Cedmln
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Instead of looking at multiplats like COD4 or UT3 as examples of PC graphics, why don't you look at games like...oh I don't know...like Crysis?Teufelhuhn

What about it? IT doesn't look as good as it was advertised WAY before it came out. Still hardly anyone can play that game on max.

Crysis is a bad example to use here.

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#334 OGTiago
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I prefer console game's, much less hassle TheMetalSquid
Yup, same.
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#335 mathew952
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We can't all afford 1,200 gaming rigs. And before the hermits start Bull****ing me, yes I know you can build a computer, and yes I have done it, and Yes it's cheaper than buying new. But They never seem to include things like the KB, mouse, Monitior Speakers...... And I don't care "yoo don count teh monitor cuz yoo no count TV on GAMESYSTEM!!!" I already have a TV, most people do. I don't, however, have LCD monitors lying around. Not to mention it's still 1200 dollars! that is a crapload of Dough!!!!

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#336 AdrianWerner
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Still hardly anyone can play that game on max.

Cedmln

That's a bad thing?

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#337 anshul89
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[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

Still hardly anyone can play that game on max.

AdrianWerner

That's a bad thing?

Yes it is because console gamers have been playing their games at 1080p with 16xAA, 16xAF, cutting edge special effects, physics, lighting and textures for centuries now.
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#338 Dynafrom
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Instead of looking at multiplats like COD4 or UT3 as examples of PC graphics, why don't you look at games like...oh I don't know...like Crysis?Cedmln

What about it? IT doesn't look as good as it was advertised WAY before it came out. Still hardly anyone can play that game on max.

Crysis is a bad example to use here.


What? Maybe PLAY the game before running your mouth off.