Man, I never thought this thread would produce so much butthurt and desperation from not only the console kids, but from the hermits as well. Wow...
You are as delusion as you are stupid it seems. Not only have multiple users put to bed the TC's crap build, we have also covered why you shouldn't use cheap PSU's. TC has done everything to try and move the goalposts everytime he's questioned.
Man, I never thought this thread would produce so much butthurt and desperation from not only the console kids, but from the hermits as well. Wow...
You seem pretty 'butthurt' here chief. Seems a lot of people here have common sense and wouldn't try and put a shitty cheap PSU in a gaming build.
Yet I have a "shitty psu" that has been chugging along since late 07. Probably ready to die soon, though. When it does, I am sure I'll get that terrible "Ah, man, it only lasted 7 or 8 years" feeling...
Just wondering.... What hardware are you using with this PSU?
Man, I never thought this thread would produce so much butthurt and desperation from not only the console kids, but from the hermits as well. Wow...
You seem pretty 'butthurt' here chief. Seems a lot of people here have common sense and wouldn't try and put a shitty cheap PSU in a gaming build.
Yet I have a "shitty psu" that has been chugging along since late 07. Probably ready to die soon, though. When it does, I am sure I'll get that terrible "Ah, man, it only lasted 7 or 8 years" feeling...
Man, I never thought this thread would produce so much butthurt and desperation from not only the console kids, but from the hermits as well. Wow...
You seem pretty 'butthurt' here chief. Seems a lot of people here have common sense and wouldn't try and put a shitty cheap PSU in a gaming build.
Yet I have a "shitty psu" that has been chugging along since late 07. Probably ready to die soon, though. When it does, I am sure I'll get that terrible "Ah, man, it only lasted 7 or 8 years" feeling...
Again, anecdotal evidence.
Aye, but even if true; would be among the very very lucky few for it to last so long and not burn the house down.
Man, I never thought this thread would produce so much butthurt and desperation from not only the console kids, but from the hermits as well. Wow...
You seem pretty 'butthurt' here chief. Seems a lot of people here have common sense and wouldn't try and put a shitty cheap PSU in a gaming build.
Yet I have a "shitty psu" that has been chugging along since late 07. Probably ready to die soon, though. When it does, I am sure I'll get that terrible "Ah, man, it only lasted 7 or 8 years" feeling...
There are two arguments you are making.
The first argument you make is that all PSUs use the same quality parts.
Another is that your PSU is fine and other people should be fine using it for their PC build on a budget.
Well we can easily ignore your first argument because there is a plethora of evidence proving it to be false.
The second argument is more anecdotal evidence.
But let's just say for the sake of the argument that you are right and that these power supplies will have a super high chance of lasting for 7 to 8 years.
Did you really save money by buying your power supply for 18.99 instead of one for around 35-45 USD?
The answer is no.
In the long run you spent much more on your power supply because your electricity bill would be higher due to how inefficient your power supply is.
Man, I never thought this thread would produce so much butthurt and desperation from not only the console kids, but from the hermits as well. Wow...
You are as delusion as you are stupid it seems. Not only have multiple users put to bed the TC's crap build, we have also covered why you shouldn't use cheap PSU's. TC has done everything to try and move the goalposts everytime he's questioned.
Man, I never thought this thread would produce so much butthurt and desperation from not only the console kids, but from the hermits as well. Wow...
You seem pretty 'butthurt' here chief. Seems a lot of people here have common sense and wouldn't try and put a shitty cheap PSU in a gaming build.
Yet I have a "shitty psu" that has been chugging along since late 07. Probably ready to die soon, though. When it does, I am sure I'll get that terrible "Ah, man, it only lasted 7 or 8 years" feeling...
There are two arguments you are making.
The first argument you make is that all PSUs use the same quality parts.
Another is that your PSU is fine and other people should be fine using it for their PC build on a budget.
Well we can easily ignore your first argument because there is a plethora of evidence proving it to be false.
The second argument is more anecdotal evidence.
But let's just say for the sake of the argument that you are right and that these power supplies will have a super high chance of lasting for 7 to 8 years.
Did you really save money by buying your power supply for 18.99 instead of one for around 35-45 USD?
The answer is no.
In the long run you spent much more on your power supply because your electricity bill would be higher due to how inefficient your power supply is.
Dayum. Hadn't even thought about the efficiency, but that is a very valid point, especially when the PSUs are most efficient when they are at under 50-60% load.
The first argument you make is that all PSUs use the same quality parts.
Another is that your PSU is fine and other people should be fine using it for their PC build on a budget.
Well we can easily ignore your first argument because there is a plethora of evidence proving it to be false.
The second argument is more anecdotal evidence.
But let's just say for the sake of the argument that you are right and that these power supplies will have a super high chance of lasting for 7 to 8 years.
Did you really save money by buying your power supply for 18.99 instead of one for around 35-45 USD?
The answer is no.
In the long run you spent much more on your power supply because your electricity bill would be higher due to how inefficient your power supply is.
Right, because the laws of physics are different for power supplies you don't like. Jesus....
The first argument you make is that all PSUs use the same quality parts.
Another is that your PSU is fine and other people should be fine using it for their PC build on a budget.
Well we can easily ignore your first argument because there is a plethora of evidence proving it to be false.
The second argument is more anecdotal evidence.
But let's just say for the sake of the argument that you are right and that these power supplies will have a super high chance of lasting for 7 to 8 years.
Did you really save money by buying your power supply for 18.99 instead of one for around 35-45 USD?
The answer is no.
In the long run you spent much more on your power supply because your electricity bill would be higher due to how inefficient your power supply is.
Right, because the laws of physics are different for power supplies you don't like. Jesus....
Its got nothing do with Physics idiot. If you use sub-standard parts then your shit will die sooner. I've shown you the inside of a cheap PSU and then compared it to a product from a top tier brand that cost about $50-65 and the difference is like night and day. All you've done is come up with Anecdotal evidence.
The first argument you make is that all PSUs use the same quality parts.
Another is that your PSU is fine and other people should be fine using it for their PC build on a budget.
Well we can easily ignore your first argument because there is a plethora of evidence proving it to be false.
The second argument is more anecdotal evidence.
But let's just say for the sake of the argument that you are right and that these power supplies will have a super high chance of lasting for 7 to 8 years.
Did you really save money by buying your power supply for 18.99 instead of one for around 35-45 USD?
The answer is no.
In the long run you spent much more on your power supply because your electricity bill would be higher due to how inefficient your power supply is.
Right, because the laws of physics are different for power supplies you don't like. Jesus....
Is that all you can say?
Please explain how the laws of physics changes what I said?
Your power supply has only 16A on the 12v if it matches the one I see on Newegg.
At such a low amperage it probably almost maxes out when playing demanding games.
Your power supply is already less efficient at taking electric energy from the wall and converting it to energy compatible with your hardware.
But when a power supply is stressed it's efficiency gets even worse.
Please explain how I am wrong here?
I am starting to think you are a troll because you never offer any real evidence.
Do you even know how a power supply works?
I am guessing not.
Edit: also if you want an indepth review on the brand of power supply that you use then look at sites like this.
Reviews like this go into great detail and testing to show the results.
These reviews are a lot more credible as they provide the numbers from their results and they show how they got them.
These sites already offer ample evidence that all power supplies do not use the same quality parts as different parts are made by difference manufacturers with different standards.
He He. Cool. I got one of those Logisys 480w PSUs. It came free with one of my cases. Never used it though for my own PCs.
I'm using it as a temporary PSU for a friend's PC (that I repaired) until we go over to his house where he has a new high quality PSU waiting. Geez. 16A on the +12v rail. I'm mildly surprised it can handle an HD 5770. Of course, the HD 5770 isn't really that power-hungry. I wouldn't trust it (the Logisys) with anything more powerful though.
Terrible comparison and analysis. You forget to factor in the fact that Console hardware is static; therefore making it easier to optimize games on Consoles. PC hardware is always changing and has thousands of different configurations. You can't do the same thing on PC that you do with Console hardware even if the hardware is exactly the same. Optimization will make it impossible 100% of the time on PC. Not to mention the fact that a computer has many different things running further hindering performance. One of the many reasons I prefer Consoles.
Terrible comparison and analysis. You forget to factor in the fact that Console hardware is static; therefore making it easier to optimize games on Consoles. PC hardware is always changing and has thousands of different configurations. You can't do the same thing on PC that you do with Console hardware even if the hardware is exactly the same. Optimization will make it impossible 100% of the time on PC. Not to mention the fact that a computer has many different things running further hindering performance. One of the many reasons I prefer Consoles.
wrong, software optuimization is real and works for every hardware, hardware optimization is as false as "the cloud power" or "dx12"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abGW1bk1nmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQmTcm5vojY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KGLH5gmQc4
and wrong again, battlefield 4 on my PC uses 98,99% of my CPU, while on X1 and PS4 you have 25% of the CPU power reserved for the OS, might it be using it or not, so consoles have problems with background aplications, not PCs
The TC mentioned not much performance difference between the FX6300 (3.5Ghz, 4.1Ghz turbo) of the Gamespot build and the Pentium G3320. At Techspot, Watch Dogs was tested against both an FX6350 (3.9Gghz which isn't much better than the FX6300) and a G3220. Yet, the benchmarks show the FX6350 having a significant lead.
Its got nothing do with Physics idiot. If you use sub-standard parts then your shit will die sooner. I've shown you the inside of a cheap PSU and then compared it to a product from a top tier brand that cost about $50-65 and the difference is like night and day. All you've done is come up with Anecdotal evidence.
Do you know the difference between anecdotal evidence and statistical evidence? Hint: linking to a web site that "reviewed" a product is not statistical evidence of the performance of a product, it is anecdotal.
You can keep making whatever ridiculous argument you want, but buying a brand name power supply is not necessary. Millions of PCs every year are shipped with no name, OEM power supplies (the same ones that companies like corsair just slap their brand name on) and they work just fine for years. You cannot argue your way out of that, but by all means, spend $60 more than you need to on a brand name supply. It's your money, and you're entitled to spend it like a fool, if you wish.
Most of those prebuilt computers have nothing to do with gaming though.
If you are making a PC game build then you want a power supply that has ample room to power your hardware while also having good voltage readings and efficiency.
If it has bad readings there is more of a chance of failure that may end up in the power supply dying with a loud popping noise or even worse it could destroy all the hardware inside.
Sure almost all power supplies have some one star reviews of people who had one of them die but the brand of power supplies that you use has a large amount of one star reviews of people who say the power supply blew up on them and some even say they lost a majority of their computer to it.
Efficiency is also important if you care about cost. A less efficient PSU uses more electricity for a higher bill.
If your build is low end like the one you presented then you would be fine with a better brand PSU that was only around 20USD more than the power supply you originally proposed.
20USD more for a more reliable PSU. And over time you would make that 20USD back because of a cheaper electric bill.
The more expensive PSUs that are 80USD or more, I would use on PC builds that are higher end than yours, and for good reason too.
Would you really chose this 19USD PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817170010 which has a large amount of one star review complaining about the PSU dying or the loud noise it emits?
Or would you go for this 35USD PSU (19.99 after rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438015 which is much more reliable and efficient.
Its got nothing do with Physics idiot. If you use sub-standard parts then your shit will die sooner. I've shown you the inside of a cheap PSU and then compared it to a product from a top tier brand that cost about $50-65 and the difference is like night and day. All you've done is come up with Anecdotal evidence.
Do you know the difference between anecdotal evidence and statistical evidence? Hint: linking to a web site that "reviewed" a product is not statistical evidence of the performance of a product, it is anecdotal.
You can keep making whatever ridiculous argument you want, but buying a brand name power supply is not necessary. Millions of PCs every year are shipped with no name, OEM power supplies (the same ones that companies like corsair just slap their brand name on) and they work just fine for years. You cannot argue your way out of that, but by all means, spend $60 more than you need to on a brand name supply. It's your money, and you're entitled to spend it like a fool, if you wish.
I urge you to go to Johnny Guru and look at his "Death of a Gutless Wonder" reviews. That alone will show you that a cheap PSU is a bad idea. As I said before, with others in this thread included, a trusted review source provides more information regarding a product than Joe Shom on Newegg. In that review I can see what testing setup they had, the way they tested it and what went wrong when it died. Its not just one site, its multiple. And when you get multiple sites failing the same brand of PSU it turns into statistical evidence.
By all means continue to believe that $20 PSU has the same level of quality in it compared to a brand like Seasonic. Continue to ignore all the evidence we've presented, continue to put your fingers in your ears. I find it highly amusing that you would spent hundreds of dollars on hardware only to power it with a cheap Chinese knock off that offers none of the protection, none of the fallback just because you don't seem to believe that things in this world are made to a higher standard, the more money you pay for them. But hey, as you said yourself. "A fool and his money are easily parted".
Those requirements are base on average quality psu's and are marked up to cover their asses. The actual usage of system with those gpu's at times are half of what the they recommend
I could care less what you think as well,there is a reason most gamers with good GPU have also a nice PSU,and not a cheap 400 Chinese one,i could have walk out of TigerDirect with a $16 dollar PSU,but i didn't because my damn card manufacturer ask for 500 watts at least,hell my CPU is 125 watts as well,is not an Intel one which draws less power,so yeah i play it safe.
And the manufacturer give me an advise i took it,and i am sure many more does,just look at the rig thread where people were posting gift of their set ups hell my PSU is cheap compare to the ones i saw there,and mine was like $50 dollars.
@leandrro said:
the build is super low Wattage and only need 160W - 180W and will be fine with a shitty PSU
but look those desperate console fanboy, ive made a build with 299 dollars and all they can focus on is PSU? ok replace the cheap $ 29case with cheap PSU and put a $19 case with a very good 80 plus corsair $20 PSU,
them now its a U$309 PC buld that destroys Xbox One, is that less ridiculous for the people who paid $500 + will spend $300 in live + overpriced games and still have to play fps games on much a weaker machine with joysticks?
Sh** PSU are a problem but you wouldn't know that because you build like a moron,in order to try to beat a console.
Hell i know how to make it even cheaper,steal a damn PC problem solve it cost you nothing,beat that consoles,next time like i told you,you will be leaving the case out because well you don't need a case,i can turn on a PC without actually having it mount in a case so why include one..lol
Beat what the xbox one has inside.
Oh and that includes OS + Blu-ray as well,oh include a wireless adapter or a mother board that has one,because the xbox one has wifi.
I guess this is your car right.? Who need doors or a motor.? + You save a ton in gas..
I'm not even sure why we need to have a gaming PC approach the price of a console. When looking from the perspective of a console which is mostly gaming, of course the console will win in price.
But, if you look at it from the perspective of a gaming PC, we all know it can do a lot more than just game. Chances are, a console gamer also has a non-gaming PC/laptop of some sort because he's certainly not doing those other tasks (such as posting here) on a console.
In the end, the expenditures for either side balances out.
Those requirements are base on average quality psu's and are marked up to cover their asses. The actual usage of system with those gpu's at times are half of what the they recommend
I could care less what you think as well,there is a reason most gamers with good GPU have also a nice PSU,and not a cheap 400 Chinese one,i could have walk out of TigerDirect with a $16 dollar PSU,but i didn't because my damn card manufacturer ask for 500 watts at least,hell my CPU is 125 watts as well,is not an Intel one which draws less power,so yeah i play it safe.
And the manufacturer give me an advise i took it,and i am sure many more does,just look at the rig thread where people were posting gift of their set ups hell my PSU is cheap compare to the ones i saw there,and mine was like $50 dollars.
Well then you totally missed the point as usual...... manufacturers over overestimate to cover them selves from idiots and sue happy people. And if you actually knew anything of the why you wouldn't be posting. The reason why they ask for 500w is because even with mediocre 500w psu's they can supply the Amperes needed for the 12v rail for your gpu. Dont ignore the fact that even your system is lucky to use 300w at peak use. The point is you dont need what they recommend especially if psu quality is good. As a rule of thumb for long term use you want 100w more then you need to run a system. Because as capacitors age"years" they lose the ability to produce the power as they when new.
Also if you even bother reading the other posts you can see the fight of defending POS psu's is idiotic.
Do you know the difference between anecdotal evidence and statistical evidence? Hint: linking to a web site that "reviewed" a product is not statistical evidence of the performance of a product, it is anecdotal.
You can keep making whatever ridiculous argument you want, but buying a brand name power supply is not necessary. Millions of PCs every year are shipped with no name, OEM power supplies (the same ones that companies like corsair just slap their brand name on) and they work just fine for years. You cannot argue your way out of that, but by all means, spend $60 more than you need to on a brand name supply. It's your money, and you're entitled to spend it like a fool, if you wish.
I urge you to go to Johnny Guru and look at his "Death of a Gutless Wonder" reviews. That alone will show you that a cheap PSU is a bad idea. As I said before, with others in this thread included, a trusted review source provides more information regarding a product than Joe Shom on Newegg. In that review I can see what testing setup they had, the way they tested it and what went wrong when it died. Its not just one site, its multiple. And when you get multiple sites failing the same brand of PSU it turns into statistical evidence.
By all means continue to believe that $20 PSU has the same level of quality in it compared to a brand like Seasonic. Continue to ignore all the evidence we've presented, continue to put your fingers in your ears. I find it highly amusing that you would spent hundreds of dollars on hardware only to power it with a cheap Chinese knock off that offers none of the protection, none of the fallback just because you don't seem to believe that things in this world are made to a higher standard, the more money you pay for them. But hey, as you said yourself. "A fool and his money are easily parted".
Well then you totally missed the point as usual...... manufacturers over overestimate to cover them selves from idiots and sue happy people. And if you actually knew anything of the why you wouldn't be posting. The reason why they ask for 500w is because even with mediocre 500w psu's they can supply the Amperes needed for the 12v rail for your gpu. Dont ignore the fact that even your system is lucky to use 300w at peak use. The point is you dont need what they recommend especially if psu quality is good. As a rule of thumb for long term use you want 100w more then you need to run a system. Because as capacitors age"years" they lose the ability to produce the power as they when new.
Also if you even bother reading the other posts you can see the fight of defending POS psu's is idiotic.
Better save than sorry and you know is true when it comes to those Chinese cheap PSU.
Well then you totally missed the point as usual...... manufacturers over overestimate to cover them selves from idiots and sue happy people. And if you actually knew anything of the why you wouldn't be posting. The reason why they ask for 500w is because even with mediocre 500w psu's they can supply the Amperes needed for the 12v rail for your gpu. Dont ignore the fact that even your system is lucky to use 300w at peak use. The point is you dont need what they recommend especially if psu quality is good. As a rule of thumb for long term use you want 100w more then you need to run a system. Because as capacitors age"years" they lose the ability to produce the power as they when new.
Also if you even bother reading the other posts you can see the fight of defending POS psu's is idiotic.
Better save than sorry and you know is true when it comes to those Chinese cheap PSU.
They dont use the word kung pow for nothing because in the end they go "POW" lol
Those requirements are base on average quality psu's and are marked up to cover their asses. The actual usage of system with those gpu's at times are half of what the they recommend
I could care less what you think as well,there is a reason most gamers with good GPU have also a nice PSU,and not a cheap 400 Chinese one,i could have walk out of TigerDirect with a $16 dollar PSU,but i didn't because my damn card manufacturer ask for 500 watts at least,hell my CPU is 125 watts as well,is not an Intel one which draws less power,so yeah i play it safe.
And the manufacturer give me an advise i took it,and i am sure many more does,just look at the rig thread where people were posting gift of their set ups hell my PSU is cheap compare to the ones i saw there,and mine was like $50 dollars.
@leandrro said:
the build is super low Wattage and only need 160W - 180W and will be fine with a shitty PSU
but look those desperate console fanboy, ive made a build with 299 dollars and all they can focus on is PSU? ok replace the cheap $ 29case with cheap PSU and put a $19 case with a very good 80 plus corsair $20 PSU,
them now its a U$309 PC buld that destroys Xbox One, is that less ridiculous for the people who paid $500 + will spend $300 in live + overpriced games and still have to play fps games on much a weaker machine with joysticks?
Sh** PSU are a problem but you wouldn't know that because you build like a moron,in order to try to beat a console.
Hell i know how to make it even cheaper,steal a damn PC problem solve it cost you nothing,beat that consoles,next time like i told you,you will be leaving the case out because well you don't need a case,i can turn on a PC without actually having it mount in a case so why include one..lol
Beat what the xbox one has inside.
Oh and that includes OS + Blu-ray as well,oh include a wireless adapter or a mother board that has one,because the xbox one has wifi.
I guess this is your car right.? Who need doors or a motor.? + You save a ton in gas..
thanks for reminding me to add a $3 USB wireless adapter
but LOL that picture is funny, it makes me think of a games machine that cant play online, cant play with KB&mouse, cant play older games, cant play emulators and have close to no games
PC gaming is about going big or go home. You don't have to spend as much on the games, but you have to at least spend more than $500 to get a worthwhile rig. PS4 or XB1 would far outlast any $200-$499 rig built today - and I'm a hermit that has been building gaming PCs for well over a decade.
Stupidest thread ever. Are you fucking kidding me?
Good luck with that PC.
this PC is pretty much identical to gamespots PC build, go call them stupid
What? They use a more future proof cpu, a 2gb gpu and an EVGA psu.
A dual core cpu and 1gb gpu in 2014? Are you kidding me?
Peter Brown's build has a brandless shitty 300W PSU (didnt see the console fanboy outrage againt gamespot editors) a CPU inferior mine and a GPU that will never fill more than 800mb in 720p
Stupidest thread ever. Are you fucking kidding me?
Good luck with that PC.
this PC is pretty much identical to gamespots PC build, go call them stupid
What? They use a more future proof cpu, a 2gb gpu and an EVGA psu.
A dual core cpu and 1gb gpu in 2014? Are you kidding me?
Peter Brown's build has a brandless shitty 300W PSU (didnt see the console fanboy outrage againt gamespot editors) a CPU inferior mine and a GPU that will never fill more than 800mb in 720p
The Intel PC should have cost ~$603 and used a similar PSU as the AMD PC.
Those requirements are base on average quality psu's and are marked up to cover their asses. The actual usage of system with those gpu's at times are half of what the they recommend
I could care less what you think as well,there is a reason most gamers with good GPU have also a nice PSU,and not a cheap 400 Chinese one,i could have walk out of TigerDirect with a $16 dollar PSU,but i didn't because my damn card manufacturer ask for 500 watts at least,hell my CPU is 125 watts as well,is not an Intel one which draws less power,so yeah i play it safe.
And the manufacturer give me an advise i took it,and i am sure many more does,just look at the rig thread where people were posting gift of their set ups hell my PSU is cheap compare to the ones i saw there,and mine was like $50 dollars.
Well then you totally missed the point as usual...... manufacturers over overestimate to cover them selves from idiots and sue happy people. And if you actually knew anything of the why you wouldn't be posting. The reason why they ask for 500w is because even with mediocre 500w psu's they can supply the Amperes needed for the 12v rail for your gpu. Dont ignore the fact that even your system is lucky to use 300w at peak use. The point is you dont need what they recommend especially if psu quality is good. As a rule of thumb for long term use you want 100w more then you need to run a system. Because as capacitors age"years" they lose the ability to produce the power as they when new.
Also if you even bother reading the other posts you can see the fight of defending POS psu's is idiotic.
It's clear that you shit birds don't know a god damned thing about electronics. Capacitors don't produce power. Jesus... Capacities store power, and the only time they will ever gradually lose capacitance is when they leak, the electrolytic ones, anyway.
Do I have to quote an entire review from Johnny Guru to make you understand?
It's clear that you shit birds don't know a god damned thing about electronics. Capacitors don't produce power. Jesus... Capacities store power, and the only time they will ever gradually lose capacitance is when they leak, the electrolytic ones, anyway.
You don't need a computer case either,you can literally connect the mother board,Power supply,HDD,ram,and GPU and turn it on,even without the case it will still turn.
I guess that is the next argument in the next week thread were you and your moron sidekick will claim building a PC is even cheaper,because you don't need a case,just a Chinese PSU.
It's clear that you shit birds don't know a god damned thing about electronics. Capacitors don't produce power. Jesus... Capacities store power, and the only time they will ever gradually lose capacitance is when they leak, the electrolytic ones, anyway.
You don't need a computer case either,you can literally connect the mother board,Power supply,HDD,ram,and GPU and turn it on,even without the case it will still turn.
I guess that is the next argument in the next week thread were you and your moron sidekick will claim building a PC is even cheaper,because you don't need a case,just a Chinese PSU.
It's clear that you shit birds don't know a god damned thing about electronics. Capacitors don't produce power. Jesus... Capacities store power, and the only time they will ever gradually lose capacitance is when they leak, the electrolytic ones, anyway.
You don't need a computer case either,you can literally connect the mother board,Power supply,HDD,ram,and GPU and turn it on,even without the case it will still turn.
I guess that is the next argument in the next week thread were you and your moron sidekick will claim building a PC is even cheaper,because you don't need a case,just a Chinese PSU.
hahahahaha
Implying you even need a case.
Some of my friends in college built a minecraft server in a cardboard box
Also, one of my lab mates brought in his mining rig with 3 or 4 HD7950s, using a cardboard box as a case. He was told to keep it out of the lab because it's a fire hazard
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