pc gaming doesnt look much better than console gaming

Ugh, those inevitable Crysis screenshots. Honestly, I'm so sick of seeing that game.

DraugenCP

these threads ask for crysis pictures to be spammed

Ugh, those inevitable Crysis screenshots. Honestly, I'm so sick of seeing that game.

DraugenCP

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

Ugh, those inevitable Crysis screenshots. Honestly, I'm so sick of seeing that game.

o0squishy0o

Consoles are just sit down and play, easy. No configuring settings and all that rubbish.

Pc has MANY more games, they're also cheaper because they need to prevent pirating and they don't pay royalty fees to microsoft/sony.

Mods can make a game last almost forever.

Steam is amazing, cheap and has loads of games.

I bet a lot of people said the same last gen when games like Doom3 made it to Xbox. It's not a MASSIVE difference of course, but it's still there and getting bigger.

This is prolly what you'd be looking at in multiplats, in many games the diff is less, in some more.

PS3 on top, 360 under, PC on the right I'd pay attention to shadows, textures and water. But the overall clarity is where its at in most games.

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"][QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

Ugh, those inevitable Crysis screenshots. Honestly, I'm so sick of seeing that game.

soulitane

I think that PC gaming looks better than console gaming when you see headlines such as this one.

Just Cause 2 PC - Looks just soooo much better than the console version but putting that to one side, it runs MUCH better too. I loaded up the demo on both PC and 360, ran them on the same TV, on the same pad and the stuttering on the 360 was awful. My friends refuse to play it on console now having seen the PC version :P.

I bet a lot of people said the same last gen when games like Doom3 made it to Xbox. It's not a MASSIVE difference of course, but it's still there and getting bigger.

This is prolly what you'd be looking at in multiplats, in many games the diff is less, in some more.

PS3 on top, 360 under, PC on the right I'd pay attention to shadows, textures and water. But the overall clarity is where its at in most games.

ManicAce

[QUOTE="ManicAce"]

I bet a lot of people said the same last gen when games like Doom3 made it to Xbox. It's not a MASSIVE difference of course, but it's still there and getting bigger.

This is prolly what you'd be looking at in multiplats, in many games the diff is less, in some more.

PS3 on top, 360 under, PC on the right I'd pay attention to shadows, textures and water. But the overall clarity is where its at in most games.

clyde46

It seems like a waste of money for a gaming computer to only look likeslightly better graphics.

slipknot0129

All this are not slightly better graphics.

resolution (2.5X - 3.8X better than consoles)

PC
1920x1200 - 2304000 pixels

consoles
1280x720 - 921600 pixels
1024x600 - 614400 pixels

fps (2.5x better than consoles)

PC
60fps+

consoles
30-25fps

anti aliasing (2.0x better than consoles)

PC
4xAA 8xAA

consoles
0xAA 2xAA

texture resolution (8.0x better than consoles)

PC
2048x2048(or even 4096x4096) + anisotropic filtering 16xAF

consoles
512x512+ anisotropic filtering 0xAF



Also PC games have much better: shades, lighting, shadow(shadow-map, shadow
filtering), view distance, physics, geometric detail, parallax mapping, volumetric
stuff, ambient occlusion etc.

[QUOTE="soulitane"]

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"] this. Plus how can anyone play that game with that eye bleeding high contrast. I mean seriously you can expect to really take that for the true gaming experience. Console people may as well photoshop their pics to have the same contrast level and lets see how much better the games look. PC gaming does look better but I would personally argue PC gaming lacks the console exclusive type games. Also tbh when I played the crysis demo and arma 2 demo 1. The graphics were nothing to shout about at all and 2. They were not THAT fun... I would go as far to say if you want a casual gaming experience and probably the best support for games go with a console. That way you are sure the gaming communities wont die out over a period of 2 months; nod to bad company 2 there ;) o0squishy0o

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

It seems like a waste of money for a gaming computer to only look likeslightly better graphics.

MK-Professor

All this are not slightly better graphics.

resolution (2.5X - 3.8X better than consoles)

PC
1920x1200 - 2304000 pixels

consoles
1280x720 - 921600 pixels
1024x600 - 614400 pixels

fps (2.5x better than consoles)

PC
60fps+

consoles
30-25fps

anti aliasing (2.0x better than consoles)

PC
4xAA 8xAA

consoles
0xAA 2xAA

texture resolution (8.0x better than consoles)

PC
2048x2048(or even 4096x4096) + anisotropic filtering 16xAF

consoles
512x512+ anisotropic filtering 0xAF



Also PC games have much better: shades, lighting, shadow(shadow-map, shadow
filtering), view distance, physics, geometric detail, parallax mapping, volumetric
stuff, ambient occlusion etc.

They both look the freakin same!:evil:

I bet a lot of people said the same last gen when games like Doom3 made it to Xbox. It's not a MASSIVE difference of course, but it's still there and getting bigger.

This is prolly what you'd be looking at in multiplats, in many games the diff is less, in some more.

PS3 on top, 360 under, PC on the right ManicAce

[QUOTE="ManicAce"]

I bet a lot of people said the same last gen when games like Doom3 made it to Xbox. It's not a MASSIVE difference of course, but it's still there and getting bigger.

This is prolly what you'd be looking at in multiplats, in many games the diff is less, in some more.

PS3 on top, 360 under, PC on the right dakan45

[QUOTE="ManicAce"]

I bet a lot of people said the same last gen when games like Doom3 made it to Xbox. It's not a MASSIVE difference of course, but it's still there and getting bigger.

This is prolly what you'd be looking at in multiplats, in many games the diff is less, in some more.

PS3 on top, 360 under, PC on the right dakan45

DX11 you mean..... and have you played JC2 on console and PC? I have and the difference is quite enormous..

Games dont look that much better on pc, they look better but clearly dont look as good as people claim they do. That may vary in quality from game to game.dakan45

Yay PC pr0n thread!!! My turn! :twisted:

Not a single Crysis screen shot. Even a bunch of muliplats in there. Right-click-> view image to see at native resolution. Some are 1440x900 some are 1680x1050 because I have built a new PC since taking some of them. Still 1440x900 is higher than 720p.

Games these days are often held back by console releases. People should understand that by now.

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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

pc will always look better however pc has slown down due to high cost of games. Not many devs want to live off one platfrom . consoles pay the bills these days so they tend to get most of th big titles.

dontshackzmii

I really dont see how it could cost 100 million $ to make a game when all they do is sit in front of pcs all day eating doritos . All costs will go up as hardware becomes more complex . I dont see costs will go up on static hardware. small games are important for the market.but block busters are the reason why people buy platfroms .

Then you live under a rock then, look at CoD MW2 just the advertizing was like 200 million and 40-50 million for production on the game when is using the same engine that was used in Cod 4 which saved them a bunch of money. All companies are doing Multiplatform games, its not because consoles make more money its because they cant afford exclusives on a single platform to make a good profit. If they just had the 360 version of the MW 2 they wouldnt even broke even. The truth is that a true(not multiplatform) PC copy of a game produces more profit per copy then console per copy. Pc versions dont have to pay rolalites and multiple companies for their cuts. Plus you have digital distribution which gives them nearly 90% profit over physical copies. Also the fact that more console only devs are producing games on Pc in recent years to make more money, which shows that Pc is a platform to make a boat load of money if you know what Pc gamers want.

Ummm I saw a massive difference. =SIantheone

I did not, they slightly look diffirent, i d say it looks like the x360 version from that picture, the ps3 is clearly inferior and i cant see the diffirence, but not on the pc one, its just slightly better which proves my point.

DX11 you mean..... and have you played JC2 on console and PC? I have and the difference is quite enormous..Espada12

First of all dont get me started on the "huge" sucess dx10/dx11 has and second i played it on the ps3 and i can see the diffirence, it really looks weak on my ps3. But the pc and x360 diffirence is right on the part that it can count as a noticable diffirence, its not enormous, its just visible. Thats exactly what i am talking about, that that "enormous" diffirence pc gamers talk about is rather much less that they make it to be.

When you play a console game at 720p on the TV next to you, then see the PC version at 1680X1050 on the computer monitor next to the television, the difference is as clear as night and day. You're incorrect, I see the difference and can compare directly first hand.skrat_01

You are incorrect, instead of "saying" how about trying to prove it? I have not played just cause 2 on pc but i have played gta iv and it looks awful in 1680x1050, that game really needs antialising, perhaps the console version is in a lower resolution but it does a much better job hiding the rough edges, that is known even from the ps2 era. Example: Project snowblind, the pc version with the "higher resolution" has alot more visible rough edges than the console version, even the reviewer points it out. So when you say "in my rig and resolution it looks better" you better be able to show a clearly sharp image that looks shaprer than the console screenshots above.

Games dont look that much better on pc, they look better but clearly dont look as good as people claim they do. .dakan45

You mean multiplats? (because there are some pc exclusives with graphics only PS4 will be able to handle fully)

Might be true, but even in multiplats designed primarly for consoles the diffrence between PC and console version is many times bigger than between PS3 and 360 version and yet lemmings fight like crazy over those petite differences.

It's funny..they do flame wars over barely noticable difference between 360 and PS3 versions, but when faced with a lot bigger difference the PC version offers they say it's not all that big :)

Ill repeat what I said earlier,

"The reason most people think that Pc dont look much better then console is because of a couple of reasons. One is that all the computers they have used are all multi-media home or work type Pc's that have basic video. Second is they are looking at multiplatform games which are designed to work on the lowest common denominator, which are the consoles which means that the Pc versions are held back because of the limits put by the consoles."

And also add that resolutions and filters and a few higher settings that the consoles dont have, can make a big difference in it being clear,sharp and allow more detail to be shown and seen, not really night and day differences. BUt for some a big enough difference to say "thats much better".

Even games such as RE5 show a pretty big difference:

[QUOTE="Espada12"]DX11 you mean..... and have you played JC2 on console and PC? I have and the difference is quite enormous..dakan45

First of all dont get me started on the "huge" sucess dx10/dx11 has and second i played it on the ps3 and i can see the diffirence, it really looks weak on my ps3. But the pc and x360 diffirence is right on the part that it can count as a noticable diffirence, its not enormous, its just visible. Thats exactly what i am talking about, that that "enormous" diffirence pc gamers talk about is rather much less that they make it to be.

DX 11 has been out for... less than 1 year now? Games like Just Cause 2, Dirt 2, and Metro 2033 who use DX 11 really benefit from it. It is also more optimized than DX10 and runs more quality at a higher framerate. It's pretty awesome.

i will follow in suite

i will follow in suite *Snip*ironman388

Nice shots, What game is that if i may ask? It looks rather nice.

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i will follow in suite *Snip*Ikuto_Tsukiyomi

Nice shots, What game is that if i may ask? It looks rather nice.

Shattered Horizons.

DiRT 2 on pc, 1680x1050, 8XAA, 16XAF all max details

Metro 2033 (DX9 - not maxed out - almost zero compression on .jpgs)

Why do console only players believe that they are getting the same experience as PC gamers? It's ridiculous, you want better experience you need to pay more, period.GeneralShowzer

Why do console only players believe that they are getting the same experience as PC gamers? It's ridiculous, you want better experience you need to pay more, period.GeneralShowzer

Im a pc gamer but come lets be honest, with the exception of a handful of games...pc does not look that significantly better than consoles, the difference is definitely not as big as it should be. Just look at the comparison pics on this thread.....pc clearly looks sharper due to a higher resolution and runs better but thats just about it. No big night and day difference that some users here seem to claim. I really cant see how anyone can deny this... A non gamer would probably not even notice any difference at all!

Im a pc gamer but come lets be honest, with the exception of a handful of games...pc does not look that significantly better than consoles, the difference is definitely not as big as it should be. Just look at the comparison pics on this thread.....pc clearly looks sharper due to a higher resolution and runs better but thats just about it. No big night and day difference that some users here seem to claim. I really cant see how anyone can deny this... A non gamer would probably not even notice any difference at all!

dom2000

You also get things like higher texture resolution, higher AA and AF etc. Depending on the game, many multiplats may not use certain aspects that are possible. However look at games like Metro 2033 -- the difference between the console and max on PC is not even close, and i'm talking a huge difference.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Why do console only players believe that they are getting the same experience as PC gamers? It's ridiculous, you want better experience you need to pay more, period.04dcarraher

Im a pc gamer but come lets be honest, with the exception of a handful of games...pc does not look that significantly better than consoles, the difference is definitely not as big as it should be. Just look at the comparison pics on this thread.....pc clearly looks sharper due to a higher resolution and runs better but thats just about it. No big night and day difference that some users here seem to claim. I really cant see how anyone can deny this... A non gamer would probably not even notice any difference at all!

dom2000

[QUOTE="dom2000"]

Im a pc gamer but come lets be honest, with the exception of a handful of games...pc does not look that significantly better than consoles, the difference is definitely not as big as it should be. Just look at the comparison pics on this thread.....pc clearly looks sharper due to a higher resolution and runs better but thats just about it. No big night and day difference that some users here seem to claim. I really cant see how anyone can deny this... A non gamer would probably not even notice any difference at all!

lundy86_4

You also get things like higher texture resolution, higher AA and AF etc. Depending on the game, many multiplats may not use certain aspects that are possible. However look at games like Metro 2033 -- the difference between the console and max on PC is not even close, and i'm talking a huge difference.

[QUOTE="dom2000"]

Im a pc gamer but come lets be honest, with the exception of a handful of games...pc does not look that significantly better than consoles, the difference is definitely not as big as it should be. Just look at the comparison pics on this thread.....pc clearly looks sharper due to a higher resolution and runs better but thats just about it. No big night and day difference that some users here seem to claim. I really cant see how anyone can deny this... A non gamer would probably not even notice any difference at all!

04dcarraher

Christ Almighty!

Talk about HD!

From what videos I see on pc games,they dont look much better than console games. I think pc gaming graphics look better when a new generation of consoles come out. What do you think?

slipknot0129

Play Arma 2 or Metro maxed out at a high resolution, you won't question the power of the platform again.

Too bad console gamers miss out on STALKER games.