PC gaming dying? I think it already did.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="CherryShooter"]Oh please, where do you come up with this nonsense?CherryShooter

Which is why PCgamer gave Hellgate a 92% or something similar? Oh please.

88%. And it was a good game. You see, they don't let expectations or assumptions of what a game SHOULD be get in the way of their review. They review purely on the merits of the game. It was a VERY deep RPG with tons of stuff to do and lots of customizability. They also overlooked the bugs because they were getting fixed(pretty much all the bugs are gone now... Of course, the Stonehenge expansion added a ton of new ones but those are getting fixed)... I believe Gamespot even said that it would be a great game if it didn't have so many bugs... They said that coming back to it in a couple of months after it got patches it could very well be an 85%.

So...

I gave up on PC gaming a long time ago. It had nothing to do with some of the latest problems but there were some PC games that I enjoyed in the past that just don't work or play on newer hardware. And these are not pirated games, I paid full retail price at a retailer when I bought them and now there just basicly coasters even though there in perfect condition. I will never spend another dime on PC games regardless of what it is.jimm895

Kinda like consoles eh? What games are you talking about anyway? Vista is the only thing that I have non to break old games.. and that isn't hardware.

I gave up on PC gaming a long time ago. It had nothing to do with some of the latest problems but there were some PC games that I enjoyed in the past that just don't work or play on newer hardware. And these are not pirated games, I paid full retail price at a retailer when I bought them and now there just basicly coasters even though there in perfect condition. I will never spend another dime on PC games regardless of what it is.jimm895

Thats a sad story but its a good thing you quit on a piece of machine thats incapable of playing it's own games at times when you upgrade it with the latest tidbits of hardware. Its the sad truth but at least Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony will back all of us up.

STEAM > XBL by leaps and bounds mismajor99

Clunky interface, an almost non-functional friends list, in-game steam community tends to decrease FPS and thirdparty control...woah leaps and bounds better you say.

In an already losing battle, the final defense has been blown. Professional game developer CliffyB has now stated that PC games are now dying and is now all about sims and WoW which is completely true.-Firstly useing CliffyB to prove your point right after his rehashed game failed to sell isn't helping your argument. as well as him blaming piracy for poor sales of an ONLINE game.

Valve? LOL the 360 and PS3 has orange box so its not exclusive.-And the PC version is significantly better and has mods

PC gaming is going to die by the end of this year-Has been claimed for years and still hasn't happened
Because, EVERYGAME except for those low budgest games like Sin of a **** Empire is going to sell poorly and be poor. Everygame will be pirated, everygame thats previously exclusive will need to latch on to the consoles to make profit and finally theres a wider spread community present within the consolesSins has been selling quite well. As have Crysis, and Stalker and the witcher. All new IPs

Interface vs PC slob
The PC users? They have to communicate from Xfire, Steam or AIM. Steam Community is a subpar version of Xbox Live, the voice chat in XBL works beyond what Steam can ever imagine, the achievement integration is much cleaner, more demos for the 360 in comparison to steam and we can download movie files straight into the comfort of the our HDTV setup, something in which hermits will have to move their entire PC setup to a television in order to do where as the 360 and PS3 is simply plugin and play.

Xfire and steam are comparable to XBL in pretty much every way. Also I could easily talk abouut how PC gamers have mods as well. And finally, some ps3 games are no longer Plug in and play

Everygame for the console has an counter for an PC exclusive-just had to point out, that is some of the worst grramar I've ever seen. And it is contradictory to the point you are trying to make.
Dragonage - Its made by EA, dont wish your luck hermits this is going to be on the 360-Which is why Bioware has stated it is the succesor to Baldur's gate and is for their PC fans?
Starcraft 2 - Halo Wars will easily best it.-LOL, this alone proves you are likely trolling. If you aren't? Well then I fear for the future of mankind
Spore - Wii version and nextgeneration speculation. Regardless I can have FUN playing it on my Wii instead of playing with a hunchback-Not going to be the same, secondly "fun" is dependant on the person
STALKER : Clear Flop - OK i just wanted to add this in, this is a buggy POS that is in no way good. Perhaps the hermit's quality has stooped low that they are desperate for any shooter I see..-A sequel to a fairly well aclaimed game that has sold about 2 million copies is a crappy flop? OOKay


Oh wait wwait thats it? Well console owners get.
The fastest ACTION game and one of the best action/adventures - NINJA GAIDEN II-Yep will likely be great, I will buy it

PS3 has the driving simulation all down, we get Gran Turismo down.-GT isn't a real driving sim, try GTR. GT is a great racing game, but it isn't a sim

We also have Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy 13 which will most likely blow anything else away.-based on an assumption as well as your taste. Based on my tastes and assumptions I can say spore on the PC and starcraft 2 will blow everything away
Wii - No More Heroes is an awesome game, Brawl, Mario Kart and more.-Yes those games will likely be great (and NMH looks great, I need to pick that up soon), and I will buy them

No matter WHAT console you choose, youll have a better library of games. Just another example of how consoles are clearly overpowering the PC.-Better is based on what type of games you like. For me 2008 for PC absolutely blows away the consoles line ups

Piracy-There is a lot of piracy for consoles. I could link you to torrents for console games if it weren't against the tou. And don't even get me started on used games
BUT BUT BUT PIRACYYYYY DOESNT MATTER!?! Well ever thought of what Crysis would sell if it werent for piracy? Alot more, twice in fact but its too bad that piracy is slowly crippling developers away from the PC just like how Epic made their mistake when they generously made UT3 and Gears of War for the PC.-Which is why UT3 sold so well on the Ps3 right? And is why sins, a game with absolutely no copy protection is also selling well?

Its a good thing Epic learned their mistake too, so they dont have to spend any budget on a dying market.

Scenarios
Guy #1 : Hey want to play Halo 3?
Guy #2 : Sure, lets play over live and party up with a matchmaking system that will allow us to play people against our level.
Guy #1 : Sounds like fun!
Guy #2 : Maybe we can play Gears of War too?
Guy #1 : Yeah! Ill invite my friends over and use guest feature to quickly have friends in a game within a second.
Guy #2 : Cool meet you on Live!

Is this possible in PC games? I think not.
Guy #1 : Hey wanna play..counterstrike source?
Guy #2 : Thats an old game, do us PC owners have any other multiplayer game to play?
Guy #1 : ..well COD4
Guy #2 : Im already playing that...on the 360 with friends and a larger community...I played the PC version at a friends house and nobody communicates
Guy #1 : Yawn...might as well grind more in World of Warcraft

Not even going to bother with the above. In no way was it coherent, and it was clearly biased toward the 360 side. Second, a lot of people play CS source still, and that is ignoring that pretty much every (well selling)PC game ever has a decent community still. And that is ignoring RTS of course

Conclusion
So there you have it, PC games now in a gutter. PC games are dying and now you dare attack CliffyB and state that he's ingorant when you guys are too blind to realize that your precious PC games are over? Right.

_____________________

Responses in the italics. Don't even know why I wasted my time with this since you are likely trolling anyway.

For the ones saying Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2, i don't remember any company that's made a better RTS game than Blizzard. How many other games are a country's national sport? Zilch.Shadow_op

A lot of people on the PC forum will argue that some of Relic's RTS's are better, and thats not exacly so untrue, COH is the highest rated RTS on gamerankings, however multiplayer wise, Blizzard >>> Relic easily, and both devour ensemble as far as RTS's are consirned.

[QUOTE="mismajor99"]STEAM > XBL by leaps and bounds CherryShooter

Clunky interface, an almost non-functional friends list, in-game steam community tends to decrease FPS and thirdparty control...woah leaps and bounds better you say.

Clunky Interface? How so? I found Steam to be perfectly fine to what its doing.. Friends list never goes down any more thats a thing of the past they have just about fixed everythign about it... In game steam community... I have yet to lower fps and I have seen it run off several different set ups.. Steam gives a minscule performance hit at best..

In an already losing battle, the final defense has been blown. Professional game developer CliffyB has now stated that PC games are now dying and is now all about sims and WoW which is completely true.

Valve? LOL the 360 and PS3 has orange box so its not exclusive.CherryShooter

Completely true? How? Because CliffyB says so? If CliffyB is the be all-end all dev then how come over 200 devs aren't stopping production of Starcraft 2 for the PC?

PC gaming is going to die by the end of this year
Because, EVERYGAME except for those low budgest games like Sin of a **** Empire is going to sell poorly and be poor. Everygame will be pirated, everygame thats previously exclusive will need to latch on to the consoles to make profit and finally theres a wider spread community present within the consoles

CherryShooter

Troll=Epic fail.

Interface vs PC slob
The PC users? They have to communicate from Xfire, Steam or AIM. Steam Community is a subpar version of Xbox Live, the voice chat in XBL works beyond what Steam can ever imagine, the achievement integration is much cleaner, more demos for the 360 in comparison to steam and we can download movie files straight into the comfort of the our HDTV setup, something in which hermits will have to move their entire PC setup to a television in order to do where as the 360 and PS3 is simply plugin and play.

CherryShooter

Clearly subjective and you even failed at providing facts to back up your statements. Also, Gamespot and Fileplanet host more demos than Steam. Steam really doesn't need to host that many demos, other sites do a better job at it.

Everygame for the console has an counter for an PC exclusive
Dragonage - Its made by EA, dont wish your luck hermits this is going to be on the 360
Starcraft 2 - Halo Wars will easily best it.
Spore - Wii version and nextgeneration speculation. Regardless I can have FUN playing it on my Wii instead of playing with a hunchback
STALKER : Clear Flop - OK i just wanted to add this in, this is a buggy POS that is in no way good. Perhaps the hermit's quality has stooped low that they are desperate for any shooter I see..

CherryShooter

Halo Wars will best it? Subjective argument and complete bollocks since you state it as if it's fact.

Oh wait wwait thats it? Well console owners get.
The fastest ACTION game and one of the best action/adventures - NINJA GAIDEN II
PS3 has the driving simulation all down, we get Gran Turismo down. We also have Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy 13 which will most likely blow anything else away.
Wii - No More Heroes is an awesome game, Brawl, Mario Kart and more.

No matter WHAT console you choose, youll have a better library of games. Just another example of how consoles are clearly overpowering the PC.

CherryShooter

I would rather play Morrowind...

Piracy
BUT BUT BUT PIRACYYYYY DOESNT MATTER!?! Well ever thought of what Crysis would sell if it werent for piracy? Alot more, twice in fact but its too bad that piracy is slowly crippling developers away from the PC just like how Epic made their mistake when they generously made UT3 and Gears of War for the PC. Its a good thing Epic learned their mistake too, so they dont have to spend any budget on a dying market.

CherryShooter

Crysis sold over 1 million units and according to Roy Taylor Vice President of Nvidia Relations, that's very good for a PC game. It also means it went platinum.

Every unit being changed? I saw the game and I still reside my comment on how stupid Starcraft looks. I never played Starcraft because it's godawful graphics pulled me away from it but from the gameplay videos I saw Starcraft 2 looks as everybit as crappy as the original. How is a rehash supposed compare to magic?CherryShooter

Wow... you must be a really shallow person if graphics can put you off of a game that is pure gold in gameplay.... also, why are you criticizing a game from TEN YEARS AGO for having bad graphics?

As for SC2's graphics.... well... they look every bit as good as Halo War's graphics.

Very Different Art-sty le but technically about the same....

And that "magic" statement is just PR BS. They ARE trying to sell the game after all...

and PC gamers don't stand for casual rehashed crap.Vandalvideo

If you have 21% of the market saying "your game sucks" and 79% willing to take a look, who would you be trying to make happy?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]and PC gamers don't stand for casual rehashed crap.lowe0

If you have 21% of the market saying "your game sucks" and 79% willing to take a look, who would you be trying to make happy?

Everygame for the console has an counter for an PC exclusive
Starcraft 2 - Halo Wars will easily best it.

CherryShooter

LOLZ LOLZ LOLZ ROFLCOPTER MEGA LOLZ, if you were serious, times that by 9,000.

[QUOTE="mismajor99"]STEAM > XBL by leaps and bounds CherryShooter

Clunky interface, an almost non-functional friends list, in-game steam community tends to decrease FPS and thirdparty control...woah leaps and bounds better you say.

It's clunkier than XBL,that's it's only fault. Can you buy games directly to your 360 through XBL? No. XBL is a good sevice,but it's not worth the money when steam is essentially the same thing,plus the games are better.

Also XBL is always down.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]and PC gamers don't stand for casual rehashed crap.lowe0

If you have 21% of the market saying "your game sucks" and 79% willing to take a look, who would you be trying to make happy?

are you trying to say that it is OK for ALL other systems, HANDHELDS included need to be stacked up against the PC? Gimme the drugs you are on because that must be some good ****...

In an already losing battle, the final defense has been blown. Professional game developer CliffyB has now stated that PC games are now dying and is now all about sims and WoW which is completely true.

Valve? LOL the 360 and PS3 has orange box so its not exclusive.

PC gaming is going to die by the end of this year
Because, EVERYGAME except for those low budgest games like Sin of a **** Empire is going to sell poorly and be poor. Everygame will be pirated, everygame thats previously exclusive will need to latch on to the consoles to make profit and finally theres a wider spread community present within the consoles

Interface vs PC slob
The PC users? They have to communicate from Xfire, Steam or AIM. Steam Community is a subpar version of Xbox Live, the voice chat in XBL works beyond what Steam can ever imagine, the achievement integration is much cleaner, more demos for the 360 in comparison to steam and we can download movie files straight into the comfort of the our HDTV setup, something in which hermits will have to move their entire PC setup to a television in order to do where as the 360 and PS3 is simply plugin and play.

Everygame for the console has an counter for an PC exclusive
Dragonage - Its made by EA, dont wish your luck hermits this is going to be on the 360
Starcraft 2 - Halo Wars will easily best it.
Spore - Wii version and nextgeneration speculation. Regardless I can have FUN playing it on my Wii instead of playing with a hunchback
STALKER : Clear Flop - OK i just wanted to add this in, this is a buggy POS that is in no way good. Perhaps the hermit's quality has stooped low that they are desperate for any shooter I see..


Oh wait wwait thats it? Well console owners get.
The fastest ACTION game and one of the best action/adventures - NINJA GAIDEN II
PS3 has the driving simulation all down, we get Gran Turismo down. We also have Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy 13 which will most likely blow anything else away.
Wii - No More Heroes is an awesome game, Brawl, Mario Kart and more.

No matter WHAT console you choose, youll have a better library of games. Just another example of how consoles are clearly overpowering the PC.

Piracy
BUT BUT BUT PIRACYYYYY DOESNT MATTER!?! Well ever thought of what Crysis would sell if it werent for piracy? Alot more, twice in fact but its too bad that piracy is slowly crippling developers away from the PC just like how Epic made their mistake when they generously made UT3 and Gears of War for the PC. Its a good thing Epic learned their mistake too, so they dont have to spend any budget on a dying market.

Scenarios
Guy #1 : Hey want to play Halo 3?
Guy #2 : Sure, lets play over live and party up with a matchmaking system that will allow us to play people against our level.
Guy #1 : Sounds like fun!
Guy #2 : Maybe we can play Gears of War too?
Guy #1 : Yeah! Ill invite my friends over and use guest feature to quickly have friends in a game within a second.
Guy #2 : Cool meet you on Live!

Is this possible in PC games? I think not.
Guy #1 : Hey wanna play..counterstrike source?
Guy #2 : Thats an old game, do us PC owners have any other multiplayer game to play?
Guy #1 : ..well COD4
Guy #2 : Im already playing that...on the 360 with friends and a larger community...I played the PC version at a friends house and nobody communicates
Guy #1 : Yawn...might as well grind more in World of Warcraft

Conclusion
So there you have it, PC games now in a gutter. PC games are dying and now you dare attack CliffyB and state that he's ingorant when you guys are too blind to realize that your precious PC games are over? Right.

CherryShooter

Wow. Great work TC. I think the most important thing about it was pointing out how overrated Stalker is. It's probably the buggiest bunch of junk since Big Rigs. Have fun wandering around in a field for six hours trying to find your next ammo clip. :|

[QUOTE="CherryShooter"]

[QUOTE="mismajor99"]STEAM > XBL by leaps and bounds stephant_6

Clunky interface, an almost non-functional friends list, in-game steam community tends to decrease FPS and thirdparty control...woah leaps and bounds better you say.

It's clunkier than XBL,that's it's only fault. Can you buy games directly to your 360 through XBL? No. XBL is a good sevice,but it's not worth the money when steam is essentially the same thing,plus the games are better.

Also XBL is always down.

U can buy arcade games8) Also the guy probaly has nvr used steam

I would rather play Morrowind...

VoodooGamer

As would I. Co-Sign.

[QUOTE="CherryShooter"]

In an already losing battle, the final defense has been blown. Professional game developer CliffyB has now stated that PC games are now dying and is now all about sims and WoW which is completely true.

Valve? LOL the 360 and PS3 has orange box so its not exclusive.

PC gaming is going to die by the end of this year
Because, EVERYGAME except for those low budgest games like Sin of a **** Empire is going to sell poorly and be poor. Everygame will be pirated, everygame thats previously exclusive will need to latch on to the consoles to make profit and finally theres a wider spread community present within the consoles

Interface vs PC slob
The PC users? They have to communicate from Xfire, Steam or AIM. Steam Community is a subpar version of Xbox Live, the voice chat in XBL works beyond what Steam can ever imagine, the achievement integration is much cleaner, more demos for the 360 in comparison to steam and we can download movie files straight into the comfort of the our HDTV setup, something in which hermits will have to move their entire PC setup to a television in order to do where as the 360 and PS3 is simply plugin and play.

Everygame for the console has an counter for an PC exclusive
Dragonage - Its made by EA, dont wish your luck hermits this is going to be on the 360
Starcraft 2 - Halo Wars will easily best it.
Spore - Wii version and nextgeneration speculation. Regardless I can have FUN playing it on my Wii instead of playing with a hunchback
STALKER : Clear Flop - OK i just wanted to add this in, this is a buggy POS that is in no way good. Perhaps the hermit's quality has stooped low that they are desperate for any shooter I see..


Oh wait wwait thats it? Well console owners get.
The fastest ACTION game and one of the best action/adventures - NINJA GAIDEN II
PS3 has the driving simulation all down, we get Gran Turismo down. We also have Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy 13 which will most likely blow anything else away.
Wii - No More Heroes is an awesome game, Brawl, Mario Kart and more.

No matter WHAT console you choose, youll have a better library of games. Just another example of how consoles are clearly overpowering the PC.

Piracy
BUT BUT BUT PIRACYYYYY DOESNT MATTER!?! Well ever thought of what Crysis would sell if it werent for piracy? Alot more, twice in fact but its too bad that piracy is slowly crippling developers away from the PC just like how Epic made their mistake when they generously made UT3 and Gears of War for the PC. Its a good thing Epic learned their mistake too, so they dont have to spend any budget on a dying market.

Scenarios
Guy #1 : Hey want to play Halo 3?
Guy #2 : Sure, lets play over live and party up with a matchmaking system that will allow us to play people against our level.
Guy #1 : Sounds like fun!
Guy #2 : Maybe we can play Gears of War too?
Guy #1 : Yeah! Ill invite my friends over and use guest feature to quickly have friends in a game within a second.
Guy #2 : Cool meet you on Live!

Is this possible in PC games? I think not.
Guy #1 : Hey wanna play..counterstrike source?
Guy #2 : Thats an old game, do us PC owners have any other multiplayer game to play?
Guy #1 : ..well COD4
Guy #2 : Im already playing that...on the 360 with friends and a larger community...I played the PC version at a friends house and nobody communicates
Guy #1 : Yawn...might as well grind more in World of Warcraft

Conclusion
So there you have it, PC games now in a gutter. PC games are dying and now you dare attack CliffyB and state that he's ingorant when you guys are too blind to realize that your precious PC games are over? Right.

JiveT

Wow. Great work TC. I think the most important thing about it was pointing out how overrated Stalker is. It's probably the buggiest bunch of junk since Big Rigs. Have fun wandering around in a field for six hours trying to find your next ammo clip. :|

Also, wandering in a field for 6 hours for an ammo clip? They're scattered all over the place while you search dead bodies and find ammo with them. Clearly shows that you haven't played STALKER.

[QUOTE="stephant_6"][QUOTE="CherryShooter"]

[QUOTE="mismajor99"]STEAM > XBL by leaps and bounds the1stfandb

Clunky interface, an almost non-functional friends list, in-game steam community tends to decrease FPS and thirdparty control...woah leaps and bounds better you say.

It's clunkier than XBL,that's it's only fault. Can you buy games directly to your 360 through XBL? No. XBL is a good sevice,but it's not worth the money when steam is essentially the same thing,plus the games are better.

Also XBL is always down.

U can buy arcade games8) Also the guy probaly has nvr used steam

Arcade games that you can play for free on any website...

For the ones saying Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2, i don't remember any company that's made a better RTS game than Blizzard. How many other games are a country's national sport? Zilch.Shadow_op

Huh...

Well this is quite a coincidence isn't it? The only company to ever make a RTS better than Blizzard was none other than Ensemble. AOE II > SC

That said, SC2 > HW.

Just some of the AA/AAA games that you can't get for consoles,and more than enough proof that PC Gaming is NOT dead :)

[QUOTE="the1stfandb"][QUOTE="stephant_6"][QUOTE="CherryShooter"]

[QUOTE="mismajor99"]STEAM > XBL by leaps and bounds stephant_6

Clunky interface, an almost non-functional friends list, in-game steam community tends to decrease FPS and thirdparty control...woah leaps and bounds better you say.

It's clunkier than XBL,that's it's only fault. Can you buy games directly to your 360 through XBL? No. XBL is a good sevice,but it's not worth the money when steam is essentially the same thing,plus the games are better.

Also XBL is always down.

U can buy arcade games8) Also the guy probaly has nvr used steam

Arcade games that you can play for free on any website...

Actually I have a better solution that absolutely destroys Xbox's arcade.. And that is gametap.. Now Xboxlive is by no means bad, its just not as good as the services the PC have.. And I think its odvious why, the pc is customizable, an open platform (no royalties) and its been evolving for 15 years..

[QUOTE="Shadow_op"]For the ones saying Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2, i don't remember any company that's made a better RTS game than Blizzard. How many other games are a country's national sport? Zilch.agentfred

Huh...

Well this is quite a coincidence isn't it? The only company to ever make a RTS better than Blizzard was none other than Ensemble. AOE II > SC

That said, SC2 > HW.

In your opinion,AoE II was better. Opinion.

Blizzard explicitly stated they have no plans to make console games because of all these royalties.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="stephant_6"][QUOTE="the1stfandb"][QUOTE="stephant_6"][QUOTE="CherryShooter"]

[QUOTE="mismajor99"]STEAM > XBL by leaps and bounds sSubZerOo

Clunky interface, an almost non-functional friends list, in-game steam community tends to decrease FPS and thirdparty control...woah leaps and bounds better you say.

It's clunkier than XBL,that's it's only fault. Can you buy games directly to your 360 through XBL? No. XBL is a good sevice,but it's not worth the money when steam is essentially the same thing,plus the games are better.

Also XBL is always down.

U can buy arcade games8) Also the guy probaly has nvr used steam

Arcade games that you can play for free on any website...

Actually I have a better solution that absolutely destroys Xbox's arcade.. And that is gametap.. Now Xboxlive is by no means bad, its just not as good as the services the PC have.. And I think its odvious why, the pc is customizable, an open platform (no royalties) and its been evolving for 15 years..

Yeah,you know it just hit me,all this stuff you lemmings pay for over XBL,you can get for free on the internet.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Blizzard explicitly stated they have no plans to make console games because of all these royalties.lowe0

[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="CherryShooter"]

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]lol, he actually thinks Halo Wars will be better than stacraft 2.CherryShooter

From what i see of it, Starcraft 2 is a rehash (Some logic used against UT3) but it will still sell like crazy because of the brand recognition. Halo Wars in the otherhand is a breath of fresh air, innovating the genre with a very well known universe.

Halo Wars > Starcraft 2

Starcraft 2 is about as much of a rehash as HL2 was of HL.... As in it isn't a rehash. Every unit is being changed, tons of new units are being added, the campaign is COMPLETELY different, the UI is greatly improved. It maintains what Starcraft is while giving a completely unique experience. Halo Wars on the other hand looks like crap. Terrible pacing, NO strategy in the combat AT ALL(it is mass huge armies and throw them at each other while watching... Hurray?). The controls look more bulky than helpful... It may end up being decent but....

Every unit being changed? I saw the game and I still reside my comment on how stupid Starcraft looks. I never played Starcraft because it's godawful graphics pulled me away from it but from the gameplay videos I saw Starcraft 2 looks as everybit as crappy as the original. How is a rehash supposed compare to magic?

[QUOTE="JiveT"][QUOTE="CherryShooter"]

In an already losing battle, the final defense has been blown. Professional game developer CliffyB has now stated that PC games are now dying and is now all about sims and WoW which is completely true.

Valve? LOL the 360 and PS3 has orange box so its not exclusive.

PC gaming is going to die by the end of this year
Because, EVERYGAME except for those low budgest games like Sin of a **** Empire is going to sell poorly and be poor. Everygame will be pirated, everygame thats previously exclusive will need to latch on to the consoles to make profit and finally theres a wider spread community present within the consoles

Interface vs PC slob
The PC users? They have to communicate from Xfire, Steam or AIM. Steam Community is a subpar version of Xbox Live, the voice chat in XBL works beyond what Steam can ever imagine, the achievement integration is much cleaner, more demos for the 360 in comparison to steam and we can download movie files straight into the comfort of the our HDTV setup, something in which hermits will have to move their entire PC setup to a television in order to do where as the 360 and PS3 is simply plugin and play.

Everygame for the console has an counter for an PC exclusive
Dragonage - Its made by EA, dont wish your luck hermits this is going to be on the 360
Starcraft 2 - Halo Wars will easily best it.
Spore - Wii version and nextgeneration speculation. Regardless I can have FUN playing it on my Wii instead of playing with a hunchback
STALKER : Clear Flop - OK i just wanted to add this in, this is a buggy POS that is in no way good. Perhaps the hermit's quality has stooped low that they are desperate for any shooter I see..


Oh wait wwait thats it? Well console owners get.
The fastest ACTION game and one of the best action/adventures - NINJA GAIDEN II
PS3 has the driving simulation all down, we get Gran Turismo down. We also have Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy 13 which will most likely blow anything else away.
Wii - No More Heroes is an awesome game, Brawl, Mario Kart and more.

No matter WHAT console you choose, youll have a better library of games. Just another example of how consoles are clearly overpowering the PC.

Piracy
BUT BUT BUT PIRACYYYYY DOESNT MATTER!?! Well ever thought of what Crysis would sell if it werent for piracy? Alot more, twice in fact but its too bad that piracy is slowly crippling developers away from the PC just like how Epic made their mistake when they generously made UT3 and Gears of War for the PC. Its a good thing Epic learned their mistake too, so they dont have to spend any budget on a dying market.

Scenarios
Guy #1 : Hey want to play Halo 3?
Guy #2 : Sure, lets play over live and party up with a matchmaking system that will allow us to play people against our level.
Guy #1 : Sounds like fun!
Guy #2 : Maybe we can play Gears of War too?
Guy #1 : Yeah! Ill invite my friends over and use guest feature to quickly have friends in a game within a second.
Guy #2 : Cool meet you on Live!

Is this possible in PC games? I think not.
Guy #1 : Hey wanna play..counterstrike source?
Guy #2 : Thats an old game, do us PC owners have any other multiplayer game to play?
Guy #1 : ..well COD4
Guy #2 : Im already playing that...on the 360 with friends and a larger community...I played the PC version at a friends house and nobody communicates
Guy #1 : Yawn...might as well grind more in World of Warcraft

Conclusion
So there you have it, PC games now in a gutter. PC games are dying and now you dare attack CliffyB and state that he's ingorant when you guys are too blind to realize that your precious PC games are over? Right.

mo0ksi

Wow. Great work TC. I think the most important thing about it was pointing out how overrated Stalker is. It's probably the buggiest bunch of junk since Big Rigs. Have fun wandering around in a field for six hours trying to find your next ammo clip. :|

Also, wandering in a field for 6 hours for an ammo clip? They're scattered all over the place while you search dead bodies and find ammo with them. Clearly shows that you haven't played STALKER.

ya really, reminds me of the guy that complained about having to open his inventory every time he wanted to use a medpack

I couldn't stomach reading what this guy had to wrote, which also means how could any of you had wasted your time with this? Just the fact that he thinks Ensemble Studios is better than Blizzard is a joke.

I kid you not when I say this, but my first ever true love with video games was thanks to Age of Empires II, developed by Ensemble, however that's the only thing they've ever made that was worth anything. Don't even get me started on how crappy Age of Empires III was, and how crappy Halo Wars probably will also be as well.

Like someone said, Ensemble is a second rate RTS developer that doesn't compare to others like Blizzard and Relic.

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[QUOTE="Shadow_op"]For the ones saying Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2, i don't remember any company that's made a better RTS game than Blizzard. How many other games are a country's national sport? Zilch.stephant_6

Huh...

Well this is quite a coincidence isn't it? The only company to ever make a RTS better than Blizzard was none other than Ensemble. AOE II > SC

That said, SC2 > HW.

In your opinion,AoE II was better. Opinion.

Well, of course. This is an extremely subjective matter. What else did you expect?

lol jivet, seriously how can you not find ammo in stalker? I used to have to dump some in the field to run faster.

To quote somebody's sig for truth (can't remember who)

PC Gaming - Happily dying since 1985

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[QUOTE="mismajor99"]STEAM > XBL by leaps and bounds stephant_6

Clunky interface, an almost non-functional friends list, in-game steam community tends to decrease FPS and thirdparty control...woah leaps and bounds better you say.

It's clunkier than XBL,that's it's only fault. Can you buy games directly to your 360 through XBL? No. XBL is a good sevice,but it's not worth the money when steam is essentially the same thing,plus the games are better.

Also XBL is always down.

U can buy arcade games8) Also the guy probaly has nvr used steam

Arcade games that you can play for free on any website...

Actually I have a better solution that absolutely destroys Xbox's arcade.. And that is gametap.. Now Xboxlive is by no means bad, its just not as good as the services the PC have.. And I think its odvious why, the pc is customizable, an open platform (no royalties) and its been evolving for 15 years..

Yeah,you know it just hit me,all this stuff you lemmings pay for over XBL,you can get for free on the internet.

But the ones on the 360 are in HD(I really should have waited for wok7 to show up)

dying lmfao..

Ive been pc gaming since 98 and been addicted ever since, though its not good for my health.. it certainly is more entertaining than a console seeings as how PC's are not all games.

however.. i do enjoy playing San andreas with 100 ppl online (which u cant do on playstation)

not to mention garrys mod, counter strike source COD4, battlefield 2 etc.. and now the PC is starting to show up better than 360 & PS3 with graphics, especially with the new next gen cards out due in june

1. Starcraft 2 > All 360 RTS games

2. Relic = the only RTS dev that > Blizzard

3. Sins of a Solar Empire > you

4. You