PC gaming is awful for so many reasons

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

Guess what.....you can do all that on a PC. Big Screen, Couch, controllers, etc. And you act like sitting in a chair is extremely uncomfortable and bad for your back.

mudman91878

Guess what, there aint many games to play on PC with friends. What about Warhawk, The Warriors, Champions, Kung Fu Fists Of Plastic? And many more.
And I'd rather slouch on a bean bag rather than sit on a pc chair.

Anything you can do on consoles, you can do on a PC......get it through your head.

The difference is you can do it with better graphics, better controls, better framerates, etc etc.

Yes I know this. But what about the games that I listed? They are so much fun to play when having friends over, do you get them on PC? I doubt it. I don't care about better graphics or controls, as long as I can get used to it then it's all good.

As long as you know what your doing it doesn't take anytime to get game settings correct. PC games get updates 100 times quicker than console games. I can play on my monitor or my big screen Plasma with my PC. I'm not too big on mouse & keyboard for most stuff either, so I use the Xbox 360 controller. Upgrading is not as bad as it's made out to be. PC's library is massive, filled with ungodly amount of awesome games in all genres.

You sir get a hardcore fail.

i have my computer hooked up to my tv with the ability to play from my couch and if i want a controller i have a usb one

pc gaming is superior for so many better reasons, primarily mods and the communities

Terrible troll, also pc gaming wins again

i agree with #3. i hate being hunched over and thats why i never really embraced PC gaming. you feel so alone and weird. and uncomfortable.

i agree with #3. i hate being hunched over and thats why i never really embraced PC gaming. you feel so alone and weird. and uncomfortable.

LeGoofyGoober

Then plug it on your TV, get a controler... you can do whatever you want with a PC...

I actually love PC gaming. I played WOW for a long time until I quit due too the montly fee. PCs are the best when it comes to FPS. The mouse is a lot easier to aim than an analog stick on a console.

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[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

Guess what, there aint many games to play on PC with friends. What about Warhawk, The Warriors, Champions, Kung Fu Fists Of Plastic? And many more.
And I'd rather slouch on a bean bag rather than sit on a pc chair.

CBR600-RR

Anything you can do on consoles, you can do on a PC......get it through your head.

The difference is you can do it with better graphics, better controls, better framerates, etc etc.

Yes I know this. But what about the games that I listed? They are so much fun to play when having friends over, do you get them on PC? I doubt it. I don't care about better graphics or controls, as long as I can get used to it then it's all good.

I hate mouse-and-keyboard controls for FPSs. It's like relearning how to shoot a gun, but instead using mouse-clicks to blow people away. And if I become a cop to operate firearms, the keyboard-and-mouse skills won't help me at all.

I prefer the natural point-and-shoot controls of games like Metroid Prime 3 and The Conduit. Now that's how FPSs need to be played!

I hate mouse-and-keyboard controls for FPSs. It's like relearning how to shoot a gun, but instead using mouse-clicks to blow people away. And if I become a cop to operate firearms, the keyboard-and-mouse skills won't help me at all.

I prefer the natural point-and-shoot controls of games like Metroid Prime 3 and The Conduit. Now that's how FPSs need to be played!

DS_Lightning21

I hate mouse-and-keyboard controls for FPSs. It's like relearning how to shoot a gun, but instead using mouse-clicks to blow people away. And if I become a cop to operate firearms, the keyboard-and-mouse skills won't help me at all.

I prefer the natural point-and-shoot controls of games like Metroid Prime 3 and The Conduit. Now that's how FPSs need to be played!

DS_Lightning21

The same poing-shoot-control that you need to use the nunchuk... just like a gun...

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

Guess what.....you can do all that on a PC. Big Screen, Couch, controllers, etc. And you act like sitting in a chair is extremely uncomfortable and bad for your back.

CBR600-RR

Guess what, there aint many games to play on PC with friends. What about Warhawk, The Warriors, Champions, Kung Fu Fists Of Plastic? And many more.
And I'd rather slouch on a bean bag rather than sit on a pc chair.

I'm not trying to be rude but do you always struggle with comprehension?

You've already been told countless times that:

• you can plug multiple 360 controllers into a PC
• many games support it
• Can use Xpadder for absolutely any game that do not
• this means you can sit on a couch/ beanbag etc
• you can plug a pc into ANYTHING you can plug a console into...yes even a plasma TV lol

PC has many more online games than warhawk...Battlefield 2, Teamfortress 2, Battlefield 2142, Couner Strike etc etc there are tons lol PC gaming invented online gaming

I even use game-jackal, so once I have installed a game I dont need to swap disks, I sit on my couch, put my feet up and game away without the need to get offf my backside to change games. PC is the ultimate 'lazy-persons' experience! 8)

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

Guess what.....you can do all that on a PC. Big Screen, Couch, controllers, etc. And you act like sitting in a chair is extremely uncomfortable and bad for your back.

DAZZER7

Guess what, there aint many games to play on PC with friends. What about Warhawk, The Warriors, Champions, Kung Fu Fists Of Plastic? And many more.
And I'd rather slouch on a bean bag rather than sit on a pc chair.

I'm not trying to be rude but do you always struggle with comprehension?

You've already been told countless times that:

• you can plug multiple 360 controllers into a PC
• many games support it
• Can use Xpadder for absolutely any game that do not
• this means you can sit on a couch/ beanbag etc
• you can plug a pc into ANYTHING you can plug a console into...yes even a plasma TV lol

PC has many more online games than warhawk...Battlefield 2, Teamfortress 2, Battlefield 2142, Couner Strike etc etc there are tons lol PC gaming invented online gaming

I even use game-jackal, so once I have installed a game I dont need to swap disks, I sit on my couch, put my feet up and game away without the need to get offf my backside to change games. PC is the ultimate 'lazy-persons' experience! 8)

1. So much hassle getting games to run at optimum levels 2. So many glitches, patches and general BS that goes along with it. 3. Sitting alone, hunched over infront of a monitor can never compare to relaxing on your sofa and enjoying a game on your bigscreen plasma with friends. 4. Mouse and Keyboard were never an intended interface for gaming. 5. Buy a new rig, it's good for a couple years then it's dated for the latest games. 6. PC gaming is in such a dire state that devs don't even bother trying to push the envelope in terms of graphics anymore. Crysis was there last serious effort to pump alot of finances into 'teh graphics', but it flopped in sales, third parties saw this and decided not to attempt games like Crysis anymore, as a result a game that came out on the PC two years ago is still the best looking. airraido

I'm not sure why I'm responding to this, but oh well...

1. No, it isn't. Usually a game detects the optimum levels for you and if they don't it doesn't take long to figure it out.

2. Console games don't have glitches? This happens on all platforms. I popped in Gears of War 2 yesterday after no having played it for months...I was greeted with a patch. Popped it in again tonight and guess what? Another patch.

3. You can play PC games on your big screen TV while sitting on your couch.

4. K/M works better for some genres than a controller (FPS and RTS), but if you still prefer a controller...you can use a 360 controller in pretty much all games.

5. If you are smart most rigs can last you much longer than that, with maybe a few minor upgrades. It all depends on what you as a consumer want...you aren't given that choice with consoles.

6. First of all, according to EA, Crysis exceeded expectations as far as sales ago. Second, games will continue to push the platform forward. In fact, John Carmack stated that the PC version of Doom 4 will be a technical showcase much like Doom 3, far surpassing the console versions.

1. If you say so.
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5. If you say so.
6. If you say so.

With that being said, i'll carry on being a PC gamer.

No offence to the OP, but trying to diss PC graphicsover Crysis being two years old, makes consoles look even stupider and i'm a console gamer.

:lol: Cry some more...

I am a pc gamer from wonfenstein, dakan45

[QUOTE="dakan45"]I am a pc gamer from wonfenstein, Danm_999

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="dakan45"]I am a pc gamer from wonfenstein, dakan45

Why would i have my friends over so they can sit in front of the big screen and watch me play video games? AAllxxjjnn

Pc gaming revenues software ONLY 12,7 billion and both software and hardware 68billion ( by hardware they mean pc's able to play the latest games). So much for pc beign in dire state

KB+M were not designed with gaming in mind but they do work great and in some gernes like FPS,RTS and RPG they are so much better than controllers. Even if you dont want to use KB+M newsflash you can connect Gamepads,joystics,driving wheels on your pc

Crysis sold 1,5 million back in june 2008 over a year a go. you can imagine how many copies sold by now considering it went on digital distribution in september 2008. So unlees a game dont sell 5 million is a sales flop to you?

The many glitches and patches you refered to is the 1 game every 10-20 games that is buggy but is easily fixable by download a patch and hitting the next button 3-4 times?

Pc gaming CAN be connected to your tv and you can play from couch using a gamepad

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Why would i have my friends over so they can sit in front of the big screen and watch me play video games? CBR600-RR

I think he was saying that it's better to enjoy a splitscreen game on a console that being hunched over a keyboard on your own.

I hate PC gaming to be honest, I always get bored of it, it's just not my thing, I like to relax while playing games, controllers are comfy and it's better with friends if we're playing multiplayer games.

PC gaming is great but still, exclusives are exclusives and it really just depends on taste.

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Why would i have my friends over so they can sit in front of the big screen and watch me play video games? HuusAsking

I think he was saying that it's better to enjoy a splitscreen game on a console that being hunched over a keyboard on your own.

I hate PC gaming to be honest, I always get bored of it, it's just not my thing, I like to relax while playing games, controllers are comfy and it's better with friends if we're playing multiplayer games.

from wikepedia i learned that crysis sodl 1.5 million some till some months ago, now if the article changed or you got another source thats ok.. but i didnt know that.dakan45

Evidence of Crysis breaking the million barrier:

http://kotaku.com/351661/crysis-comeback-moves-1-million-copies

http://seekingalpha.com/article/62617-electronic-arts-f3q08-qtr-end-12-31-07-earnings-call-transcript

In the second source, EA (yes, money grubbing, soul-less, corporate EA) described Crysis as amongst games which had "exceeded expectations". So why are you calling it a commercial failure?

Russuan low budget games? 1 exodus from the earth 2 isntict 3 dusk 12 4 necrovision 5 cryostasisdakan45

Ok, now we've got something to work with. Although you've quite deliberately pointed to the worst possible games you could find to make a point. In actuality, the PC has more critically acclaimed exclusive games than any console, but I'll play along with your logic (that we somehow count bad Russian games as evidence the PC is terrible and its library is only represented by its bad games).

But it's only 5 games. I know your English isn't fluent, but if PC exclusives are 'usually' low budget Russian games (according to you), most PC games should be low budget Russian games. But I can name 5 times as many high quality PC exclusives as this that weren't made in Russia.

Oh and Crysostatis was made in Poland, not Russia. Guess that's only 4 games.

Are you ready to admit this was silly hyperbole?

well even stalker since the budget was much inferior compared to similar games dakan45

STALKER was made by Ukrainian developer GSC. Ukraine is not Russia.

You're not great with geography huh?

also cod 4 sold 16 millions, since gta iv sold 4 millions, i guess thats 4 millons on ps3 and 4-5 on x360, as you see the pc version sold about 7 millions...am just saying it didnt go too well as cod 4, id stick with cod4 for game of the year.dakan45

And I'll stick with Crysis.

Difference is, I have professional opinion behind my opinion.

But seriously now buddy, forget stalker forget crysis and forget all of this and anwer me do the new games resemble the old ones in any way?Eg they are going to release a deus ex 3 which i doubt it will be similar to the first game.... Ohh and i have too many issues latelly in games, i mean i bought a ps3 and i play oldschool fps like resistance that remind me of the old pc games, and the game runs just fine no probems or crashes eg like the pc version of gta iv and far cry 2, hell even stalker and crysis have bugs, so its not multiplatform thing, its just that the developers dont polish much the pc versions, do we atleast agree on that?dakan45

Games that are staying true to their PC roots? There are plenty. You, once again, can point to one or two series which have gone to multiplatform status (I can do the same for consoles in areas like Final Fantasy, Street Fighter, Devil May Cry), but most old series are showing continuity, or have been replaced by similar series.

Starcraft 2 to Starcraft 1.

The Total War series to Shogun, Rome, Medieval, etc.

Diablo 3 to Diablo 1/2.

Civilization 4+expansions to its series.

Pretty much anything else Sid Meyer does actually; Colonization, Pirates etc.

Homeworld 3 to Homeworld 1 & 2.

Galactic Civs 2 to Master of Orion.

Tell you what, just check out Adrian Werners' list. It's too long to go through the whole thing.

yeah but cod 4 and gta iv have superior sales... i mean those are two games that wil get sequels till the judgement day thanks to each sales, thanks for sorting this outdakan45

then a guess everyone else who dissagress with you is an idiot.... dakan45

No, I'm saying you have not substantiated your opinion as well as I have.

as for Adrian Werner;s list, i checked it and its filled with arcade and gamev like cryostasis and necrovisiom...also there many other good games that he has not added in his list such as shodown scorpion... but thats not the point, the point is that i like those games because they are oldschool and Adrians list is filled with rts which are not really my thing, basicly what am saying is that in pc i cant find good casual action games than can compete the consoles like in the past, eg fear half life 2, and more..... dakan45

Those aren't action games, they're FPS.

And you're basically saying your problem now is one of preference, not an innate problem with the PC.

but those games now have turned into console games and the only way someone like me that enjoyes playing games by the way the used to be in the pc in the past is by playing either low budget fps or ps3 fps.... eg max payne 3, what does this have to do with the old game?dakan45

As I said, you can point to examples of series that have gone multiplat from the PC, but I can also point to examples of series going TO the PC.

Rising development costs are forcing developers to go multiplatform, as you acknowledge right here

Its a multiplatorm next generation mutation....so in the bottom line the pc needs a new smashing game that can prove the consoles wrong, the last one was crysis but it didnt go as well as expected... dakan45

It did go well though.

We've already been over this.

we need a pc exclusive, ompimized and well made for pc so it can compete the consoles, and heres why i choose cod4 because its very polished in the pc.... and i dont care if its linear and you dont like linear games,,,cod game started as pc exclusive and the thing is that it doesnt have problems when many games have and cod 4 could possibly have as well but it doesnt so i repect the developers and their devotion to the pc, now why cant we get more well designed games? thats my rang am sick and tired of getting a game and experience problems and try to fix it, icould get it for a console since thats what for its designed anyway, but then it wouldnt be pc games it would be the dessigners just messing with us..eg gta iv.... why cant some developers make pc mastepieces like the past? Thats my rant i want my oldschool games now :)dakan45

If you're not satisfied, I feel for you. Many of my favourite franchises also took directions I'm not happy with, but still so many of them are there I can't endorse a hyperbolic diatribe the PC is dead.

I'm off, have fun.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]yeah but cod 4 and gta iv have superior sales... i mean those are two games that wil get sequels till the judgement day thanks to each sales, thanks for sorting this outMckenna1845

OP:

You can't be serious...