PC gaming is bad for the industry.

PC gaming have been declining since the 90's. and with increased piracy and PC gaming isn't doing anything to expand the industry.PowerCharged

let be frank.

PC gaming is like a shark. it hasn't evolved since the dawn of time.

PC gaming is not noob friendly. casuals can't get into it and its too expensive. even if you could afford a cheap set up. the monitor alone could cost you about $200-$500.

Most hermits don't even buy games. they use bittorent.

PC doesn't have any exclusives, no matter how long it takes, every single pc game gets ported down the line.

PC is not backward compatible.

PC OS cost a fortune. games that requires vista forces you to buy a buggy OS.

you can't play PC games on your couch.

you have to install every single game and if you lose your CD key its all over.

PC games are never completed. there is always some darn patch coming down the line and if you don't have internet, you are stuck with some BS game.

Mods are for cheaters, and is unnecessary.

PC games are not in HD.

when you play a game like half life 2 or any vehicle driven games, its suddenly gets really frustrating when you hop into a vehicle and all the basic controls changes

powercharged you try to hard. and yet your never open to other ppls opinions. well all have to say is wow.

 

SunLord592

i accept ownage when it is serve. hermits are stubborn and think that PC is the holy grail of gaming when it is not. 

[QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

NO LINK. NO PROOF.

TekkenMaster606

prove me wrong with a link then. otherwise the most logical argument wins.

Typical response. YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING so you have to ask others to prove you wrong. :lol:

And your argument IS FAR FROM LOGICAL.

why the damage control?? if you can't prove me wrong with a link then there is no need for me to prove my self to you:| 

[QUOTE="RossRichard"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"]

PC gaming have been declining since the 90's. and with increased piracy and PC gaming isn't doing anything to expand the industry.

let be frank.

PC gaming is like a shark. it hasn't evolved since the dawn of time. you still play games with complicated controls and bad key layout. Yeah that explains why most console 'innovations' end up on PC first, right? You know, like in-game physics, online play, force feedback, etc I could type for hours on innovations that started on PC.

PC gaming is not noob friendly. casuals can't get into it and its too expensive. even if you could afford a cheap set up. the monitor alone could cost you about $200-$500. I just built a buddy of mine a really nice gaming PC for just under $600. Not so expensive after all. By the way, let me know where you buy your monitors, Ill never shop there.

Most hermits don't even buy games. they use bittorent. I could name at least 10 multi-million selling PC games off the top of my head: Sims 2, Neverwinter Nights, Oblivion, Half Life 2, GTA San Andreas, Guild Wars, FEAR, Rome:Total War, Diablo 2, Starcraft, Baldurs Gate, Baldurs Gate 2, Star Wars KOTOR, Jedi Academy, Command and Conquer etc. THIS IS MILLIONS SOLD, NOT DOWNLOADED!! Lets not forget the 8+ million people who subscribe to World of Warcraft, which at this time is PC/Mac only.

PC doesn't have any exclusives, no matter how long it takes, every single pc game gets ported down the line. Wheres my multiplat Diablo 2, or Neverwinter Nights, or Guild Wars, or even World of Warcraft then??

PC is not backward compatible. Dude I still play games from the late 70s on my PC, this statement is almost too dumb to answer. PC is the MOST backwards compatible gaming platform there is.

PC OS cost a fortune. $100-$200 is a fortune? What country you from? games that requires vista forces you to buy a buggy OS. Then dont buy the PC version of Halo 2, problem solved.

you can't play PC games on your couch. Ever heard of a HTPC (Home Theater PC)?

you have to install every single game and if you lose your CD key its all over. Installs arent bad, and take care of your games and you wont have to worry about losing keys.

PC games are never completed. there is always some darn patch coming down the line and if you don't have internet, you are stuck with some BS game. You dont always need to keep all your games patched, a lot of games still work just fine out of the box unless you have some exotic config.

Mods are for cheaters, and is unnecessary. Ever heard of Counter-Strike? That was a mod at one time. If all you do is play cheating mods then you are missing out on some great games.

PC games are not in HD. This statement is so dumb I almost question how good it will do if I answer. OK Ill try. PC games are actually more HD than what you think of HD. HDTVs max out at somewhere around 1960x1020. The old TVs are 640x480. This is your lines of resolution. This is why HD screens look sharper, they run at a higher resolution. Most PC monitors and gaming video cards can go somewhere around 2600x1500. So your answer is that PC games can run higher resolutions than even the highest-end HDTVs.

when you play a game like half life 2 or any vehicle driven games, its suddenly gets really frustrating when you hop into a vehicle and all the basic controls changes Thats why you can go in and change the vehicle controls to what you want.

 

now please tell me. what's so good about PC gaming??? I wonder if I should waste my time typing. Youre obviously biased and it will do no good.

gaming shouldn't be a chore people should be able to have fun playing not waste time bulding a gaming machine which gets outdated by the time your finish. It must take you several years to build your PCs then.

PowerCharged

LINK?? 

Ahh I see, you have nothing to say and you cant prove me wrong. Self ownage on your part, all this stuff is common sense.

i accept ownage when it is serve. hermits are stubborn and think that PC is the holy grail of gaming when it is not.

PowerCharged

[QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="Core0"]

Should I mention how the console market relies on pure marketing and software exclusivity to generate hardware sales, which renders it stagnant?

If anything, it's the console gaming that is bad for the industry.

Redmoonxl2

you are just jealous because PC doesn't have any exclusive

Yep, no exclusives from companies like EA, Blizzard, Bioware, NCSoft, THQ, Activision, Sega, Midway, Lucasarts, Valve and more. No exclusives at all.

who would want exclusives from EA. and bioware doesn't make good games. midway haven't made a AAA in 10 years. Sega:lol: after spiderman 3 activision just took a nose dive. the rest are just garbage

i cant believe he said BioWare doesnt make good games... 

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

NO LINK. NO PROOF.

PowerCharged

prove me wrong with a link then. otherwise the most logical argument wins.

Typical response. YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING so you have to ask others to prove you wrong. :lol:

And your argument IS FAR FROM LOGICAL.

why the damage control?? if you can't prove me wrong with a link then there is no need for me to prove my self to you:| 

It doesn't have to be proven. It's common sense that the PC is the best gaming platform if you can afford to keep your hardware up to date.

[QUOTE="PowerCharged"]

you are just jealous because PC doesn't have any exclusive

Core0

Hmm...

But then we already got STALKER and SupCom as exclusives earlier this year.

Finally let me note, besides a couple of horribly done ports, I haven't really seen a single multiplatform game that plainly doesn't play better on my PC.

PC games never really impress me. and stalker was delayed like 4 years 

LINK??

PowerCharged

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

NO LINK. NO PROOF.

PowerCharged

prove me wrong with a link then. otherwise the most logical argument wins.

Typical response. YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING so you have to ask others to prove you wrong. :lol:

And your argument IS FAR FROM LOGICAL.

why the damage control?? if you can't prove me wrong with a link then there is no need for me to prove my self to you:|

I asked you for the link to prove your claim first. You're just IGNORING the question and trying to create as much spin as possible to SAVE FACE.

I asked you to produce a LINK TO PROVE YOUR CLAIM FIRST. And you haven't produced anything. Quit trying to ask other people to prove you wrong.

YOU STARTED THIS TOPIC. Not me. It's YOU that needs to prove your points.  

[QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

NO LINK. NO PROOF.

BioShockOwnz

prove me wrong with a link then. otherwise the most logical argument wins.

Typical response. YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING so you have to ask others to prove you wrong. :lol:

And your argument IS FAR FROM LOGICAL.

why the damage control?? if you can't prove me wrong with a link then there is no need for me to prove my self to you:|

It doesn't have to be proven. It's common sense that the PC is the best gaming platform if you can afford to keep your hardware up to date.

Up to date=/=uneeded ultra high res/AA/AF level settings... 

[QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

NO LINK. NO PROOF.

TekkenMaster606

prove me wrong with a link then. otherwise the most logical argument wins.

Typical response. YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING so you have to ask others to prove you wrong. :lol:

And your argument IS FAR FROM LOGICAL.

why the damage control?? if you can't prove me wrong with a link then there is no need for me to prove my self to you:|

I asked you for the link to prove your claim first. You're just IGNORING the question and trying to create as much spin as possible to SAVE FACE.

I asked you to produce a LINK TO PROVE YOUR CLAIM FIRST. And you haven't produced anything. Quit trying to ask other people to prove you wrong.

YOU STARTED THIS TOPIC. Not me. It's YOU that needs to prove your points.

Oh plz dont use logic with him...its pointless..

PS Gwen is a hot babe...aouuuuuuuu!!!!!! 

i cant believe he said BioWare doesnt make good games... 

h0wtehnub

:lol: I was thinking the same thing.

Yet another dumb "PC sucks" thread from the TC!!!

This is really amusing!!! :lol::lol::lol:

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="Core0"]

Should I mention how the console market relies on pure marketing and software exclusivity to generate hardware sales, which renders it stagnant?

If anything, it's the console gaming that is bad for the industry.

h0wtehnub

you are just jealous because PC doesn't have any exclusive

Yep, no exclusives from companies like EA, Blizzard, Bioware, NCSoft, THQ, Activision, Sega, Midway, Lucasarts, Valve and more. No exclusives at all.

who would want exclusives from EA. and bioware doesn't make good games. midway haven't made a AAA in 10 years. Sega:lol: after spiderman 3 activision just took a nose dive. the rest are just garbage

i cant believe he said BioWare doesnt make good games...

what good games did bioware make??? let me guess jade empires. all the bioware games have some weird text base conversation wich doesn't really change anything 

Yet another dumb "PC sucks" thread from the TC!!!

This is really amusing!!! :lol::lol::lol:

FireEmblem_Man

when did i say did "PC suck" 

[QUOTE="h0wtehnub"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="Core0"]

Should I mention how the console market relies on pure marketing and software exclusivity to generate hardware sales, which renders it stagnant?

If anything, it's the console gaming that is bad for the industry.

PowerCharged

you are just jealous because PC doesn't have any exclusive

Yep, no exclusives from companies like EA, Blizzard, Bioware, NCSoft, THQ, Activision, Sega, Midway, Lucasarts, Valve and more. No exclusives at all.

who would want exclusives from EA. and bioware doesn't make good games. midway haven't made a AAA in 10 years. Sega:lol: after spiderman 3 activision just took a nose dive. the rest are just garbage

i cant believe he said BioWare doesnt make good games...

what good games did bioware make??? let me guess jade empires. all the bioware games have some weird text base conversation wich doesn't really change anything 

Actually most people feel Jade Empires would be one of their weaker games, which says something cause JE is still an awesome game. The text-based conversations might be a problem if you had a kindergarten reading comprehension level, but most people dont mind it at all.

Mods are for cheaters, and is unnecessary.

PowerCharged

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]1. Piracy RulesTrue_Gamer_

Actually piracy fuells the money that would go to software to hardware...thats why Nvidia/ATI can afford to RD a new GPU every 6 months...

Is there a smiley where I pinch my nose cause I have a head-ache fron non-scense??

Piracy is BAD plain and simple. You say the more people pirate games, the more hardware is distributed cause people want to play that game. However with no money going to company who made that excellent game, will not be able to make more excellent game. This is because you can't dish out the money for the game, yet you managed to dish out the money for your new 300$ video card?

By the way TC, Logic called, and they said to stop using him as an excuse for your opinions. :| 

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

Yet another dumb "PC sucks" thread from the TC!!!

This is really amusing!!! :lol::lol::lol:

PowerCharged

when did i say did "PC suck" 

Go re-read your first post and read your past post on the bottom of my sig!!! They all sound like "PC Sucks threads" to me!!!

PC gaming have been declining since the 90's. and with increased piracy and PC gaming isn't doing anything to expand the industry.

let be frank.

PC gaming is like a shark. it hasn't evolved since the dawn of time. you still play games with complicated controls and bad key layout.

PC gaming is not noob friendly. casuals can't get into it and its too expensive. even if you could afford a cheap set up. the monitor alone could cost you about $200-$500.

Most hermits don't even buy games. they use bittorent.

 

PC doesn't have any exclusives, no matter how long it takes, every single pc game gets ported down the line.

PC is not backward compatible.

PC OS cost a fortune. games that requires vista forces you to buy a buggy OS.

you can't play PC games on your couch.

you have to install every single game and if you lose your CD key its all over.

 

PC games are never completed. there is always some darn patch coming down the line and if you don't have internet, you are stuck with some BS game.

Mods are for cheaters, and is unnecessary.

PC games are not in HD.

when you play a game like half life 2 or any vehicle driven games, its suddenly gets really frustrating when you hop into a vehicle and all the basic controls changes

 

now please tell me. what's so good about PC gaming???

gaming shouldn't be a chore people should be able to have fun playing not waste time bulding a gaming machine which gets outdated by the time your finish.

PowerCharged

[QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

Yet another dumb "PC sucks" thread from the TC!!!

This is really amusing!!! :lol::lol::lol:

FireEmblem_Man

when did i say did "PC suck"

Go re-read your first post and read your past post on the bottom of my sig!!! They all sound like "PC Sucks threads" to me!!!

selective reading i see. 

[QUOTE="PowerCharged"]

Mods are for cheaters, and is unnecessary.

PannicAtack

A really big one. :lol: 

[QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="h0wtehnub"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="Core0"]

Should I mention how the console market relies on pure marketing and software exclusivity to generate hardware sales, which renders it stagnant?

If anything, it's the console gaming that is bad for the industry.

RossRichard

you are just jealous because PC doesn't have any exclusive

Yep, no exclusives from companies like EA, Blizzard, Bioware, NCSoft, THQ, Activision, Sega, Midway, Lucasarts, Valve and more. No exclusives at all.

who would want exclusives from EA. and bioware doesn't make good games. midway haven't made a AAA in 10 years. Sega:lol: after spiderman 3 activision just took a nose dive. the rest are just garbage

i cant believe he said BioWare doesnt make good games...

what good games did bioware make??? let me guess jade empires. all the bioware games have some weird text base conversation wich doesn't really change anything

Actually most people feel Jade Empires would be one of their weaker games, which says something cause JE is still an awesome game. The text-based conversations might be a problem if you had a kindergarten reading comprehension level, but most people dont mind it at all.

so i guess mass of text **cough**effect** will be another great game:roll:

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"]

Mods are for cheaters, and is unnecessary.

TekkenMaster606

A really big one. :lol:

care to elaborate? 

who would want exclusives from EA. and bioware doesn't make good games. midway haven't made a AAA in 10 years. Sega:lol: after spiderman 3 activision just took a nose dive. the rest are just garbage

PowerCharged

 :lol:I'm strictly a hard-core JRPG gamer and I still find that hilarious. 

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"]

Mods are for cheaters, and is unnecessary.

PowerCharged

A really big one. :lol:

care to elaborate? 

so i guess mass of text **cough**effect** will be another great game:roll:

PowerCharged

How the hell are you going to complain about cutscenes in a game if you're a METAL GEAR SOLID FAN? 

care to elaborate? PowerCharged

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"]

Mods are for cheaters, and is unnecessary.

PowerCharged

A really big one. :lol:

care to elaborate? 

[QUOTE="PowerCharged"]care to elaborate? foxhound_fox

PC gaming have been declining since the 90's. and with increased piracy and PC gaming isn't doing anything to expand the industry.

Prove It!

let be frank.

PC gaming is like a shark. it hasn't evolved since the dawn of time. you still play games with complicated controls and bad key layout. 

Control layouts are highly customisable. Mouse is faster, easyier to use and  more accurate than sticks. Console games are litmied by only haveing about 14 button available, while PC game can have over 30.

PC gaming is not noob friendly. casuals can't get into it and its too expensive. even if you could afford a cheap set up. the monitor alone could cost you about $200-$500.

Ad the cost of a HDTV to a Console, You have to Buy HD to get the same quality as a PC monitor, and you can get PC monitors for a lot less tahn $200US

Most hermits don't even buy games. they use bittorent.

Prove It! It's there so theore they are? I can get PS2, Xbox, GC, PS3, Xbox 360, PSP, WII, DS game over bittorrent to. Your point is invalid. 

PC doesn't have any exclusives, no matter how long it takes, every single pc game gets ported down the line.

And they always watered down ports, and there are still plenty of exclusives.

PC is not backward compatible.

Yest it is, I can play any old game on my PC, Even games from the 80's

PC OS cost a fortune. games that requires vista forces you to buy a buggy OS.

Learn to buy upgrade versions, And Vista isn't that buggy.

you can't play PC games on your couch.

Yes you can, Thats as dumb as saying I cant play my PS2 on the couch.

you have to install every single game and if you lose your CD key its all over.

If you disorganised enough to loose you CD key than you deserve to loose it.

PC games are never completed. there is always some darn patch coming down the line and if you don't have internet, you are stuck with some BS game.

Get use to it,  Console games are now been patched.

Mods are for cheaters, and is unnecessary.

Mods are for improve the lifespan and replability of the games, Some mods can turn it into a completely different games that in no way resembles the original for free.  Trainers and Memory scanning tool are for cheaters.

PC games are not in HD.

PC games have been using 860x600 since the 90's

when you play a game like half life 2 or any vehicle driven games, its suddenly gets really frustrating when you hop into a vehicle and all the basic controls changes.

Happends on consoles games to.

now please tell me. what's so good about PC gaming???

gaming shouldn't be a chore people should be able to have fun playing not waste time bulding a gaming machine which gets outdated by the time your finish. 

Consoles are outdated harware before they are released. X360 and PS3 only have 512 RAM Toal wich it must share while the stadard for PC is 1.5 Gig Main and 256 Video totaling 1700MB, PS3 is using a GPU that was deemed outaded at least a year ago.

TC Speaking on Behalf of other cows, we disown you and your comments. If it weren't for PC gaming, console gaming wouldn't exist. Any informed gamer knows that the PC gaming ,regardless of the difficulties, innovates well before console gaming. Hell if it weren't for moding that you find so unneccessary we wouldn't have as many developers. Do you know how many developers got their starts moding Pcs?jyoung312

[QUOTE="PowerCharged"]

so i guess mass of text **cough**effect** will be another great game:roll:

Dencore

How the hell are you going to complain about cutscenes in a game if you're a METAL GEAR SOLID FAN? 

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: PC gaming is where innovation starts.PowerCharged

really?? then how come that ive people have been using the same KB/M for decades. and all pc shooter a generic and repetitive. 

That's because the KB+mouse is ultimate control method, it might not be perfect for everything, but it allows the biggest freedom to developer. Most genres started in computers and most gameplay innovations are first made on PCs 

Oh, and console gamers don't pirate games?

 

SwapMagic?

 

Xbox 360 DVD drive hacks?

 

Gameboy Advance flash carts?

 

 

TekkenMaster606

Also to the TC thread creator, the PC is very noob friendly. Everyone I know here plays Counter Strike Source/World of WarCraft/StarCraft/WarCraft3 instead of console games. 

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

Oh, and console gamers don't pirate games?

 

SwapMagic?

 

Xbox 360 DVD drive hacks?

 

Gameboy Advance flash carts?

 

 

Click_Clock

Also to the TC thread creator, the PC is very noob friendly. Everyone I know here plays Counter Strike Source/World of WarCraft/StarCraft/WarCraft3 instead of console games. 

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

Oh, and console gamers don't pirate games?

 

SwapMagic?

 

Xbox 360 DVD drive hacks?

 

Gameboy Advance flash carts?

 

 

PowerCharged

the scale is much smaller than PC piracy

PROVE IT.

a console game sale gets to a million faster than pc game sales, and plus you don't have to do any modification on you rig to steal a game. if you mod your console, you lose online priviledge

NO LINK. NO PROOF.

prove me wrong with a link then. otherwise the most logical argument wins.

You said it first my dear selfowned cow...

Plus one can buy a PC game register it online and sell it for half price and still play online...

Can u do that on your little toy?

you can't trade in PC games. and why would i want to register my games is there any benefits??

1. PC gaming have been declining since the 90's.

2. you still play games with complicated controls and bad key layout.

3. PC doesn't have any exclusives

4. PC is not backward compatible.

5. you can't play PC games on your couch.

6. you have to install every single game and if you lose your CD key its all over.

7. Mods are for cheaters, and is unnecessary.

8. PC games are not in HD.

9. when you play a game like half life 2 or any vehicle driven games, its suddenly gets really frustrating when you hop into a vehicle and all the basic controls changes

PowerCharged

1. How? tell me. Have you ever heard of Everquest II, WoW, and all of the other good games and mmo's out there? get your facts straight

2. That varies from game to game. I dont think its hard.....

3. Everquest I and II, Dungeons and Dragons, WoW, LoTRO, Command and Conquer and MANY more...... ya no exlcusives :roll:

4. Backwards compatible with what? The PC format HAS NEVER CHANGED

5. ....Hmm.... *Looks at post while sitting on couch with a wireless keyboard and mouse and an S-video cable connection to TV*

6. Thats why you have to be organized and responsible. Also if you lose your game-disc its all over.....

7. Not true. Modding allows people to make new an exciting levels and maps to share with their community.

8. Really???? Then when i saw that there was an HD output for a PC they were lying! :o

9. Not for me....:| 

[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]

Also to the TC thread creator, the PC is very noob friendly. Everyone I know here plays Counter Strike Source/World of WarCraft/StarCraft/WarCraft3 instead of console games.

PannicAtack

PC gaming have been declining since the 90's. and with increased piracy and PC gaming isn't doing anything to expand the industry.

let be frank.

PC gaming is like a shark. it hasn't evolved since the dawn of time. you still play games with complicated controls and bad key layout. 

PC gaming is not noob friendly. casuals can't get into it and its too expensive. even if you could afford a cheap set up. the monitor alone could cost you about $200-$500.

Most hermits don't even buy games. they use bittorent.

 

PC doesn't have any exclusives, no matter how long it takes, every single pc game gets ported down the line.

PC is not backward compatible.

PC OS cost a fortune. games that requires vista forces you to buy a buggy OS.

you can't play PC games on your couch.

you have to install every single game and if you lose your CD key its all over.

 

PC games are never completed. there is always some darn patch coming down the line and if you don't have internet, you are stuck with some BS game.

Mods are for cheaters, and is unnecessary.

PC games are not in HD.

when you play a game like half life 2 or any vehicle driven games, its suddenly gets really frustrating when you hop into a vehicle and all the basic controls changes

 

now please tell me. what's so good about PC gaming???

gaming shouldn't be a chore people should be able to have fun playing not waste time bulding a gaming machine which gets outdated by the time your finish. 

PowerCharged

You are so wrong its increadible.