PC gaming is held back by PCs

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#201 percuvius2
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A lesson from history:

Once upon a time PCs were quite sucky for gaming.

They had strong CPUs but the graphics and sound cards sucked.

So when VGA standard and SoundBlaster finaly came out, things started to change.

PCs could do playlable 3D graphics and colorful 2D graphics and nice sound.

But then the 3D revolution started and PCs fell behind consoles again because no 3D accelerators.

But when the 3D accelerators came out, they surpassed the consoles by a wide margin.

But not all PCs had a 3D accelerator, hence consoles were still better than many PCs.

Then came out more powerful hardware and better graphics cards.

But many people were still gaming on older PCs, hence the next-gen consoles were better than many PCs.

PCs surpassed consoles by a wide margin again but there was no games showing it.

There was no games because many were still gaming on older PCs.

And then came the "HD" consoles and things changed.

They were like "gaming-oriented PCs" when they came out so developers focused on them more.

It took a while for PC to surpass them but not all did.

The amount of PCs in the world far surpasses all consoles combined but most come with crappy integrated graphics.

The enthusiast gaming PCs are relatively niche, in coparison with the large majority of PCs.

Finally, companies like AMD are pushing "console-quality" PC gaming to the mainsteam users with the APU tech.

The most popular PC games tend to be undemanding (both, hardware and gameplay-wise) games.

That's also why Diablo 3 sold so well - it's relatively undemanding and accessible.

CGI-quality graphics would be already possible on high-end PCs but there's not a big enough market for it or atleast that's what the developers/publishers think, hence we're waiting for next-gen consoles to do the push forward.

So when you point fingers, ask yourself who you should be pointing it at in the first place...

nameless12345

There were more capable computers for gaming BEFORE PC's. The PC was the FIRST with REAL 3D gaming thanks to 3DFX and the Voodoo cards. Please learn your history!

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#202 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

A lesson from history:

Once upon a time PCs were quite sucky for gaming.

They had strong CPUs but the graphics and sound cards sucked.

So when VGA standard and SoundBlaster finaly came out, things started to change.

PCs could do playlable 3D graphics and colorful 2D graphics and nice sound.

But then the 3D revolution started and PCs fell behind consoles again because no 3D accelerators.

But when the 3D accelerators came out, they surpassed the consoles by a wide margin.

But not all PCs had a 3D accelerator, hence consoles were still better than many PCs.

Then came out more powerful hardware and better graphics cards.

But many people were still gaming on older PCs, hence the next-gen consoles were better than many PCs.

PCs surpassed consoles by a wide margin again but there was no games showing it.

There was no games because many were still gaming on older PCs.

And then came the "HD" consoles and things changed.

They were like "gaming-oriented PCs" when they came out so developers focused on them more.

It took a while for PC to surpass them but not all did.

The amount of PCs in the world far surpasses all consoles combined but most come with crappy integrated graphics.

The enthusiast gaming PCs are relatively niche, in coparison with the large majority of PCs.

Finally, companies like AMD are pushing "console-quality" PC gaming to the mainsteam users with the APU tech.

The most popular PC games tend to be undemanding (both, hardware and gameplay-wise) games.

That's also why Diablo 3 sold so well - it's relatively undemanding and accessible.

CGI-quality graphics would be already possible on high-end PCs but there's not a big enough market for it or atleast that's what the developers/publishers think, hence we're waiting for next-gen consoles to do the push forward.

So when you point fingers, ask yourself who you should be pointing it at in the first place...

percuvius2

There were more capable computers for gaming BEFORE PC's. The PC was the FIRST with REAL 3D gaming thanks to 3DFX and the Voodoo cards. Please learn your history!

I did and the N64 came out before 3dfx Voodoo...

With "PC" I specifically ment "IBM compatibles" (which the Commodore Amiga and Atari ST were not).

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#203 aia89
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I agree, good OP, TC.

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#204 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Very few PC games cost that much.

Yundex

Yes, but that's not the arguement here... Diablo sold because it's made by blizzard and it's not because the game is 10$ here.

I guess the sims sold so well because it's....EA? And half life because it's valve? And minecraft because it's whatshisname? And sim city.... There is no argument here, stop it.

I'm pretty sure @ 60$ Minecraft wouldn't see the same success.

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#205 billyjay89
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Good grief, what an idiot.
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#206 nameless12345
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Good grief, what an idiot. billyjay89

The point was that there are no consoles "holding back" PC gaming.

What is "holding back" PC gaming is demand/supply.

Pirate all your games and you don't deserve to complain why they aren't doing any more games that appeal to you...

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#207 Led_poison
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Blaming the console cycles being too long.

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#208 clyde46
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[QUOTE="billyjay89"]Good grief, what an idiot. nameless12345

The point was that there are no consoles "holding back" PC gaming.

What is "holding back" PC gaming is demand/supply.

Pirate all your games and you don't deserve to complain why they aren't doing any more games that appeal to you...

Once again, out comes the broken record that is piracy. It's just like the movie and music industry. They blame piracy instead of engaging in new methods of selling content to consumers. They continue to use the dinosaur business that pours money into the suits pockets instead of where it should go, the content creators.
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#209 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="billyjay89"]Good grief, what an idiot. nameless12345

The point was that there are no consoles "holding back" PC gaming.

What is "holding back" PC gaming is demand/supply.

Pirate all your games and you don't deserve to complain why they aren't doing any more games that appeal to you...

Yeah, Halo 4 was pirated before it was even out...