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#201 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]Out of all the PC Games I have the only one that looks better than Uncharted 2, Halo 4, MGS3, or GoW 3 is Crysis.Timstuff

We all know you don't own a PC or any PC games. Shut up troll.

You should have been more specific pertaining to a gaming PC. Now all the peasants are going to start barking about how they all own PCs and act like it's ownage.

Said the dude with a 7770?
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#202 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

We all know you don't own a PC or any PC games. Shut up troll.

Timstuff

You should have been more specific pertaining to a gaming PC. Now all the peasants are going to start barking about how they all own PCs and act like it's ownage.

Lol why do the butthutmits think they're part of some exclusive club as if 99.9 of the population doesn't own PCs as well?

Pray_to_me

Apparently, you were right, Timstuff.

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#203 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]Out of all the PC Games I have the only one that looks better than Uncharted 2, Halo 4, MGS3, or GoW 3 is Crysis.GioVela2010

We all know you don't own a PC or any PC games. Shut up troll.

Cry moar

yeah, because it's so totally impossible to sign into gamespot on someone else's computer and take a screenshot. yes, that would be an incredibly sad and desperate length to go to, just to troll on system wars, but you've certainly got the reputation. I wouldn't put it past you.

Also, assuming that is actually your PC. i7 930, 24 gb RAM, and a 5800 series gpu?? No wonder your games look like ass. Your crappy GPU is bottlenecking the rest of the system, which is all total overkill. What happened to your "high-end" ( :lol: ) 660ti?

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#204 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

We all know you don't own a PC or any PC games. Shut up troll.

the_bi99man

Cry moar

yeah, because it's so totally impossible to sign into gamespot on someone else's computer and take a screenshot. yes, that would be an incredibly sad and desperate length to go to, just to troll on system wars, but you've certainly got the reputation. I wouldn't put it past you.

Also, assuming that is actually your PC. i7 930, 24 gb RAM, and a 5800 series gpu?? No wonder your games look like ass. Your crappy GPU is bottlenecking the rest of the system, which is all total overkill. What happened to your "high-end" ( :lol: ) 660ti?

So I'm either lying or my GPU is crap, you've got it all figured out huh :lol:
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#205 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"] Cry moar  GioVela2010

yeah, because it's so totally impossible to sign into gamespot on someone else's computer and take a screenshot. yes, that would be an incredibly sad and desperate length to go to, just to troll on system wars, but you've certainly got the reputation. I wouldn't put it past you.

Also, assuming that is actually your PC. i7 930, 24 gb RAM, and a 5800 series gpu?? No wonder your games look like ass. Your crappy GPU is bottlenecking the rest of the system, which is all total overkill. What happened to your "high-end" ( :lol: ) 660ti?

So I'm either lying or my GPU is crap, you've got it all figured out huh :lol:

Those are the only options that make sense. Considering that I know from my own personal experience that even a 560ti, even worse than your mid-range 660, runs any PC game looking leagues better than the console version, and running over double the framerate. It doesn't take much power to completely demolish console capabilities. "High-End" PC graphics cards are pretty much just overkill, unless you use the extra power for super-HD resolutions and/or triple monitor surround displays.

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#206 cryemocry
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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"] Cry moar  GioVela2010

yeah, because it's so totally impossible to sign into gamespot on someone else's computer and take a screenshot. yes, that would be an incredibly sad and desperate length to go to, just to troll on system wars, but you've certainly got the reputation. I wouldn't put it past you.

Also, assuming that is actually your PC. i7 930, 24 gb RAM, and a 5800 series gpu?? No wonder your games look like ass. Your crappy GPU is bottlenecking the rest of the system, which is all total overkill. What happened to your "high-end" ( :lol: ) 660ti?

So I'm either lying or my GPU is crap, you've got it all figured out huh :lol:

5800=outdated
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#207 GioVela2010
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Lol you're an idiot. So a 5870 is old outdated garbage and a 560ti is "teh awesome!" Try again. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/294?vs=330
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#208 IgGy621985
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So I'm either lying or my GPU is crap, you've got it all figured out huh :lol:GioVela2010

If that shot is true, all you have to do is to buy a decent graphics card and you're all set. Since the rest of your configuration is pretty high-end, I don't get it, why all the hate for the PC?

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#209 the_bi99man
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Lol you're an idiot. So a 5870 is old outdated garbage and a 560ti is "teh awesome!" Try again. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/294?vs=330GioVela2010

So your 5870 runs BF3 maxed out at close to 60 fps? And you're still saying it's not a big leap from console graphics? Troll/fakeboy confirmed.

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#210 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Nothing on PC is 2 "generations ahead" of any of these games. Even those bug riddled mobo frying ice mods.

Pray_to_me

It looks that good and is open ended unlike your linear corridor console games shown...OWNED! Console owners am cry!:P

Lol a promo bullshot of a console based multiplat that isn't even out yet is supposed to be ownage? HAHAHAHAHA! Loser.

I got news for you bub. Crysis 3 is on Ps3 and 360 just like Crysis 2 and Crysis.;)

Know why hermits love Crysis? Because they cry when they think about how all they got to play is Guild Wars 2 and Crysis. :cry::cry::cry:

:lol::lol::lol::twisted:

Have you seen the gameplay? It looks really good.

And so what if Crysis 3 is on consoles, the PC version looks better than just about every PS3 exclusive to exist, and going by Crysis 1 and 2 on PC it'll look better than virtually every other game out there.

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#211 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

So I'm either lying or my GPU is crap, you've got it all figured out huh :lol:IgGy621985

If that shot is true, all you have to do is to buy a decent graphics card and you're all set. Since the rest of your configuration is pretty high-end, I don't get it, why all the hate for the PC?

It's because he's lying. That's not his PC. It's probably a friend's, and he's insanely jelly of it every time he's hangin out with him.

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#212 Cranler
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

We all know you don't own a PC or any PC games. Shut up troll.

the_bi99man

Cry moar

yeah, because it's so totally impossible to sign into gamespot on someone else's computer and take a screenshot. yes, that would be an incredibly sad and desperate length to go to, just to troll on system wars, but you've certainly got the reputation. I wouldn't put it past you.

Also, assuming that is actually your PC. i7 930, 24 gb RAM, and a 5800 series gpu?? No wonder your games look like ass. Your crappy GPU is bottlenecking the rest of the system, which is all total overkill. What happened to your "high-end" ( :lol: ) 660ti?

5870 was top of the line when that cpu came out. 24 gb is just silly though. I have 6gb and never come close to using it all.
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#213 lowe0
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[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

So I'm either lying or my GPU is crap, you've got it all figured out huh :lol:the_bi99man

If that shot is true, all you have to do is to buy a decent graphics card and you're all set. Since the rest of your configuration is pretty high-end, I don't get it, why all the hate for the PC?

It's because he's lying. That's not his PC. It's probably a friend's, and he's insanely jelly of it every time he's hangin out with him.

Do you have the slightest shred of anything even vaguely resembling evidence to support that accusation?
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#214 IgGy621985
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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

If that shot is true, all you have to do is to buy a decent graphics card and you're all set. Since the rest of your configuration is pretty high-end, I don't get it, why all the hate for the PC?

lowe0

It's because he's lying. That's not his PC. It's probably a friend's, and he's insanely jelly of it every time he's hangin out with him.

Do you have the slightest shred of anything even vaguely resembling evidence to support that accusation?

Let's imagine he's actually not lying. Who with the slightest amount of sanity would have a high-end rig and then b*tch about PC platform? I mean, upgrade your crappy graphics card, buy some games on Steam and enjoy.

And yet consolites are pointing fingers towards PC gamers as "elitist". This thing this guy is performing is a perfect example of elitism.

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#215 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

It's because he's lying. That's not his PC. It's probably a friend's, and he's insanely jelly of it every time he's hangin out with him.

IgGy621985

Do you have the slightest shred of anything even vaguely resembling evidence to support that accusation?

Let's imagine he's actually not lying. Who with the slightest amount of sanity would have a high-end rig and then b*tch about PC platform? I mean, upgrade your crappy graphics card, buy some games on Steam and enjoy.

And yet consolites are pointing fingers towards PC gamers as "elitist". This thing this guy is performing is a perfect example of elitism.

Oh, I'm not going to defend his argument. I'm just opposed to accusing him of lying without any supporting evidence.
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#216 Cranler
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

It's because he's lying. That's not his PC. It's probably a friend's, and he's insanely jelly of it every time he's hangin out with him.

IgGy621985

Do you have the slightest shred of anything even vaguely resembling evidence to support that accusation?

Let's imagine he's actually not lying. Who with the slightest amount of sanity would have a high-end rig and then b*tch about PC platform? I mean, upgrade your crappy graphics card, buy some games on Steam and enjoy.

And yet consolites are pointing fingers towards PC gamers as "elitist". This thing this guy is performing is a perfect example of elitism.

What with all this hate towards the gpu? 5870 was top of the line when the i7 930 came out. Finely balanced system actually.
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#217 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

So I'm either lying or my GPU is crap, you've got it all figured out huh :lol:IgGy621985

If that shot is true, all you have to do is to buy a decent graphics card and you're all set. Since the rest of your configuration is pretty high-end, I don't get it, why all the hate for the PC?

What hate?
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#218 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

It's because he's lying. That's not his PC. It's probably a friend's, and he's insanely jelly of it every time he's hangin out with him.

IgGy621985

Do you have the slightest shred of anything even vaguely resembling evidence to support that accusation?

Let's imagine he's actually not lying. Who with the slightest amount of sanity would have a high-end rig and then b*tch about PC platform? I mean, upgrade your crappy graphics card, buy some games on Steam and enjoy.

And yet consolites are pointing fingers towards PC gamers as "elitist". This thing this guy is performing is a perfect example of elitism.

I wouldn't call a 5870 a crappy card, it was $400 just 2.5 years ago. I'd upgrade now but I don't see the point in spending $300 on a GPU when next gen consoles will have better graphics. I'll wait for Sea Islands and Haswell to upgrade. It'll be interesting to see how next gen consoles hold up against my next system for the first 3-4 years
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#219 IgGy621985
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[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

So I'm either lying or my GPU is crap, you've got it all figured out huh :lol:GioVela2010

If that shot is true, all you have to do is to buy a decent graphics card and you're all set. Since the rest of your configuration is pretty high-end, I don't get it, why all the hate for the PC?

What hate?

Trolling, b*tching, hating. Call it what you like. That's what you do when it comes to the PC platform. And when I saw your high-end rig, the reason of your hate/trolling/whatever...? I don't get it.

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#220 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

If that shot is true, all you have to do is to buy a decent graphics card and you're all set. Since the rest of your configuration is pretty high-end, I don't get it, why all the hate for the PC?

IgGy621985

What hate?

Trolling, b*tching, hating. Call it what you like. That's what you do when it comes to the PC platform. And when I saw your high-end rig, the reason of your hate/trolling/whatever...? I don't get it.

Well the graphics don't blow me away like some of you would lead most to believe. And I have 3 games that I can't get to launch, Mass Effect, Dirt 2, and Batman AA, it's annoying as hell spending hours trying to trouble shoot a problem
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#221 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"] What hate? GioVela2010

Trolling, b*tching, hating. Call it what you like. That's what you do when it comes to the PC platform. And when I saw your high-end rig, the reason of your hate/trolling/whatever...? I don't get it.

Well the graphics don't blow me away like some of you would lead most to believe. And I have 3 games that I can't get to launch, Mass Effect, Dirt 2, and Batman AA, it's annoying as hell spending hours trying to trouble shoot a problem

Many multiplats are the true definitive versions on PC. Skyrim, for example, is one game I can't imagine playing on consoles without the luxury of gameplay mods and graphical mods that make the game virtually next-gen
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#222 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

Trolling, b*tching, hating. Call it what you like. That's what you do when it comes to the PC platform. And when I saw your high-end rig, the reason of your hate/trolling/whatever...? I don't get it.

princeofshapeir
Well the graphics don't blow me away like some of you would lead most to believe. And I have 3 games that I can't get to launch, Mass Effect, Dirt 2, and Batman AA, it's annoying as hell spending hours trying to trouble shoot a problem

Many multiplats are the true definitive versions on PC. Skyrim, for example, is one game I can't imagine playing on consoles without the luxury of gameplay mods and graphical mods that make the game virtually next-gen

Yah sorry I disagree that Skyrim with mods is next gen, Elder Scrolls 6 will show us next gen
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#223 IgGy621985
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[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"] What hate? GioVela2010

Trolling, b*tching, hating. Call it what you like. That's what you do when it comes to the PC platform. And when I saw your high-end rig, the reason of your hate/trolling/whatever...? I don't get it.

Well the graphics don't blow me away like some of you would lead most to believe. And I have 3 games that I can't get to launch, Mass Effect, Dirt 2, and Batman AA, it's annoying as hell spending hours trying to trouble shoot a problem

Well you're playing wrong games then.

Regarding the games you're unable to run, dunno dude, most games come with additional software needed in order to make the game work, i.e. DirectX, .Net Framework etc. I hardly ever have issues making games work.

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"] Well the graphics don't blow me away like some of you would lead most to believe. And I have 3 games that I can't get to launch, Mass Effect, Dirt 2, and Batman AA, it's annoying as hell spending hours trying to trouble shoot a problemGioVela2010
Many multiplats are the true definitive versions on PC. Skyrim, for example, is one game I can't imagine playing on consoles without the luxury of gameplay mods and graphical mods that make the game virtually next-gen

Yah sorry I disagree that Skyrim with mods is next gen, Elder Scrolls 6 will show us next gen

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#225 CaseyWegner
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Wow, Loosey is back to acting like a f*cking boob. Shocker :o

Hey, still hyping Crimson Dragon Loosey?

loosingENDS

The only fact is that my top looking games and coming games, like FF 15 Agnes, Lost Odyssey, Ni no Kuni, Bravely Default, Fable 2-3-Journey, Mass Effect etc etc are all console games

also on pc and better looking.

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#226 CaseyWegner
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My sig 100% truth GioVela2010

only if you ignore pc games.

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#227 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

We all know you don't own a PC or any PC games. Shut up troll.

GioVela2010
You should have been more specific pertaining to a gaming PC. Now all the peasants are going to start barking about how they all own PCs and act like it's ownage.

Said the dude with a 7770?

I'm going to be replacing it with a 7970 in a few weeks, but even the 7770 is still enough to smoke the pants off of any current gen console.
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#228 lostrib
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]You should have been more specific pertaining to a gaming PC. Now all the peasants are going to start barking about how they all own PCs and act like it's ownage.Timstuff
Said the dude with a 7770?

I'm going to be replacing it with a 7970 in a few weeks, but even the 7770 is still enough to smoke the pants off of any current gen console.

Do they make a 7970 short enough to fit in a storm scout?

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(images from http://www.asot.es/2001/09/skyrim-mods.html)princeofshapeir
Interesting. As I recall, those are from the guy who had 100 mods running at once (a quick Google confirms this, with the images you linked). Let's see what he had to say about actually playing the game....

1.1.9 What's the framerate with all this mods? With the heaviest grass with AO and at DEEPEST forests i get from 5 to 30fps (more grass on screen = less fps), without it or at other locations at least 40-60fps (outdoors).

So, I assume I'm never again going to hear about frame drops on consoles, right? I mean, 5 fps? I thought 30 fps was supposedly suitable only for peasants and wholly unbecoming of the master race?
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#230 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]My sig 100% truth CaseyWegner

only if you ignore pc games.

WRONG!
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#231 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"] Said the dude with a 7770? lostrib

I'm going to be replacing it with a 7970 in a few weeks, but even the 7770 is still enough to smoke the pants off of any current gen console.

Do they make a 7970 short enough to fit in a storm scout?

The XFX 7970 DD fits, albeit just barely, and that's the model I plan on getting.

mxfDk.jpg

There are maybe 2 other models that will also fit, although both have lower clock speed and one of them is a reference card (i.e., crappy stock cooling unit). If you're willing to make some modifications you can fit just about any card in there, but I personally don't think it's worth the hassle.

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#232 lostrib
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"](images from http://www.asot.es/2001/09/skyrim-mods.html)lowe0
Interesting. As I recall, those are from the guy who had 100 mods running at once (a quick Google confirms this, with the images you linked). Let's see what he had to say about actually playing the game....

1.1.9 What's the framerate with all this mods? With the heaviest grass with AO and at DEEPEST forests i get from 5 to 30fps (more grass on screen = less fps), without it or at other locations at least 40-60fps (outdoors).

So, I assume I'm never again going to hear about frame drops on consoles, right? I mean, 5 fps? I thought 30 fps was supposedly suitable only for peasants and wholly unbecoming of the master race?

There are some people in the PC screenshot threads that have some next-gen looking skyrim screenshots, with playable framerates

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#233 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I'm going to be replacing it with a 7970 in a few weeks, but even the 7770 is still enough to smoke the pants off of any current gen console.Timstuff

Do they make a 7970 short enough to fit in a storm scout?

The XFX 7970 DD fits, albeit just barely, and that's the model I plan on getting.

mxfDk.jpg

There are maybe 2 other models that will also fit, although one is a reference card and the other has a lower clock speed. If you're willing to make some modifications you can fit just about any card in there, but I personally don't think it's worth the hassle.

Wow that is really close. Yeah, i remember when I was looking for a new gpu it was hard to find 7950/7970 that fit (~10.6")

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#234 lostrib
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only if you ignore pc games.

WRONG!

what is it based off of? and does it include multiplats that have a review for the 360 version but not the PC

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#235 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"](images from http://www.asot.es/2001/09/skyrim-mods.html)lostrib

Interesting. As I recall, those are from the guy who had 100 mods running at once (a quick Google confirms this, with the images you linked). Let's see what he had to say about actually playing the game....

1.1.9 What's the framerate with all this mods? With the heaviest grass with AO and at DEEPEST forests i get from 5 to 30fps (more grass on screen = less fps), without it or at other locations at least 40-60fps (outdoors).

So, I assume I'm never again going to hear about frame drops on consoles, right? I mean, 5 fps? I thought 30 fps was supposedly suitable only for peasants and wholly unbecoming of the master race?

There are some people in the PC screenshot threads that have some next-gen looking skyrim screenshots, with playable framerates

Define "playable". Keep in mind that you'll be held to that definition from here on out.
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#236 jun_aka_pekto
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I'm a sucker for observing how a game renders different materials and surfaces.

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I even shoot at glass to see differences in details:

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Of course, I like the little details as well.....

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#237 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Interesting. As I recall, those are from the guy who had 100 mods running at once (a quick Google confirms this, with the images you linked). Let's see what he had to say about actually playing the game....

1.1.9 What's the framerate with all this mods? With the heaviest grass with AO and at DEEPEST forests i get from 5 to 30fps (more grass on screen = less fps), without it or at other locations at least 40-60fps (outdoors).lowe0

So, I assume I'm never again going to hear about frame drops on consoles, right? I mean, 5 fps? I thought 30 fps was supposedly suitable only for peasants and wholly unbecoming of the master race?

There are some people in the PC screenshot threads that have some next-gen looking skyrim screenshots, with playable framerates

Define "playable". Keep in mind that you'll be held to that definition from here on out.

I dont know the fps, i simply asked if it was playable and he/she said yes

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#238 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"](images from http://www.asot.es/2001/09/skyrim-mods.html)lowe0
Interesting. As I recall, those are from the guy who had 100 mods running at once (a quick Google confirms this, with the images you linked). Let's see what he had to say about actually playing the game....

1.1.9 What's the framerate with all this mods? With the heaviest grass with AO and at DEEPEST forests i get from 5 to 30fps (more grass on screen = less fps), without it or at other locations at least 40-60fps (outdoors).

So, I assume I'm never again going to hear about frame drops on consoles, right? I mean, 5 fps? I thought 30 fps was supposedly suitable only for peasants and wholly unbecoming of the master race?

They're mods... You have the option of not having them at all.
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#239 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"](images from http://www.asot.es/2001/09/skyrim-mods.html)lowe0
Interesting. As I recall, those are from the guy who had 100 mods running at once (a quick Google confirms this, with the images you linked). Let's see what he had to say about actually playing the game....

1.1.9 What's the framerate with all this mods? With the heaviest grass with AO and at DEEPEST forests i get from 5 to 30fps (more grass on screen = less fps), without it or at other locations at least 40-60fps (outdoors).

So, I assume I'm never again going to hear about frame drops on consoles, right? I mean, 5 fps? I thought 30 fps was supposedly suitable only for peasants and wholly unbecoming of the master race?

He gets 5-30 FPS with the grass mod, which is understandable. The grass mod isn't a necessity at all. I have a very demanding ENB preset and a host of texture mods installed and my FPS is consistently above 50.
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#240 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"](images from http://www.asot.es/2001/09/skyrim-mods.html)Jebus213
Interesting. As I recall, those are from the guy who had 100 mods running at once (a quick Google confirms this, with the images you linked). Let's see what he had to say about actually playing the game....

1.1.9 What's the framerate with all this mods? With the heaviest grass with AO and at DEEPEST forests i get from 5 to 30fps (more grass on screen = less fps), without it or at other locations at least 40-60fps (outdoors).

So, I assume I'm never again going to hear about frame drops on consoles, right? I mean, 5 fps? I thought 30 fps was supposedly suitable only for peasants and wholly unbecoming of the master race?

They're mods... You have the option of not having them at all.

Well, there aren't any mods on my PC now, and there haven't been any for quite some time. Any other things I already know that you'd like to bring up? No? Good. Now we can discuss the actual point, which is that posting screen shots of a heavily modified game that runs at 5-30 fps as representative of the PC thereby rules out criticizing console games for running at those framerates. Can't have it both ways.
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#241 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"](images from http://www.asot.es/2001/09/skyrim-mods.html)princeofshapeir
Interesting. As I recall, those are from the guy who had 100 mods running at once (a quick Google confirms this, with the images you linked). Let's see what he had to say about actually playing the game....

1.1.9 What's the framerate with all this mods? With the heaviest grass with AO and at DEEPEST forests i get from 5 to 30fps (more grass on screen = less fps), without it or at other locations at least 40-60fps (outdoors).

So, I assume I'm never again going to hear about frame drops on consoles, right? I mean, 5 fps? I thought 30 fps was supposedly suitable only for peasants and wholly unbecoming of the master race?

He gets 5-30 FPS with the grass mod, which is understandable. The grass mod isn't a necessity at all. I have a very demanding ENB preset and a host of texture mods installed and my FPS is consistently above 50.

Then why not just post your own screenshots instead of passing those off as representative of PC gameplay?
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#242 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Interesting. As I recall, those are from the guy who had 100 mods running at once (a quick Google confirms this, with the images you linked). Let's see what he had to say about actually playing the game....

1.1.9 What's the framerate with all this mods? With the heaviest grass with AO and at DEEPEST forests i get from 5 to 30fps (more grass on screen = less fps), without it or at other locations at least 40-60fps (outdoors).

So, I assume I'm never again going to hear about frame drops on consoles, right? I mean, 5 fps? I thought 30 fps was supposedly suitable only for peasants and wholly unbecoming of the master race?

They're mods... You have the option of not having them at all.

Well, there aren't any mods on my PC now, and there haven't been any for quite some time. Any other things I already know that you'd like to bring up? No? Good. Now we can discuss the actual point, which is that posting screen shots of a heavily modified game that runs at 5-30 fps as representative of the PC thereby rules out criticizing console games for running at those framerates. Can't have it both ways.

Uh, viela doubted whether Skyrim with mods looked next-gen. I brought up some screenshots, albeit screenshots showcasing a very extreme setup, to prove otherwise. The fact that the guy with those mods got low FPS (though that's mostly because of the grass mod) was irrelevant to the point I was trying to make. If you want to see screenshots of my Skyrim with mods, which I assure you runs at above 50 FPS at all times, I'd be happy to provide them.
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#243 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Interesting. As I recall, those are from the guy who had 100 mods running at once (a quick Google confirms this, with the images you linked). Let's see what he had to say about actually playing the game....

1.1.9 What's the framerate with all this mods? With the heaviest grass with AO and at DEEPEST forests i get from 5 to 30fps (more grass on screen = less fps), without it or at other locations at least 40-60fps (outdoors).lowe0

So, I assume I'm never again going to hear about frame drops on consoles, right? I mean, 5 fps? I thought 30 fps was supposedly suitable only for peasants and wholly unbecoming of the master race?

He gets 5-30 FPS with the grass mod, which is understandable. The grass mod isn't a necessity at all. I have a very demanding ENB preset and a host of texture mods installed and my FPS is consistently above 50.

Then why not just post your own screenshots instead of passing those off as representative of PC gameplay?

Because whether or not the game was running at a playable framerate in those screenshots wasn't relevant.

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#244 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Do you have the slightest shred of anything even vaguely resembling evidence to support that accusation?Cranler

Let's imagine he's actually not lying. Who with the slightest amount of sanity would have a high-end rig and then b*tch about PC platform? I mean, upgrade your crappy graphics card, buy some games on Steam and enjoy.

And yet consolites are pointing fingers towards PC gamers as "elitist". This thing this guy is performing is a perfect example of elitism.

What with all this hate towards the gpu? 5870 was top of the line when the i7 930 came out. Finely balanced system actually.

Just some people pretending they know more about pc hardware than they really do.

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#245 lowe0
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] They're mods... You have the option of not having them at all.

Well, there aren't any mods on my PC now, and there haven't been any for quite some time. Any other things I already know that you'd like to bring up? No? Good. Now we can discuss the actual point, which is that posting screen shots of a heavily modified game that runs at 5-30 fps as representative of the PC thereby rules out criticizing console games for running at those framerates. Can't have it both ways.

Uh, viela doubted whether Skyrim with mods looked next-gen. I brought up some screenshots, albeit screenshots showcasing a very extreme setup, to prove otherwise. The fact that the guy with those mods got low FPS (though that's mostly because of the grass mod) was irrelevant to the point I was trying to make. If you want to see screenshots of my Skyrim with mods, which I assure you runs at above 50 FPS at all times, I'd be happy to provide them.

Not needed. Here's the point: by your own admission, you chose an extreme case to compare to the console version, instead of what an average playable experience would be. It's not an apples-to-apples comparison; in fact, it's so far from one that it really doesn't serve any argumentative purpose at all.
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#246 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] He gets 5-30 FPS with the grass mod, which is understandable. The grass mod isn't a necessity at all. I have a very demanding ENB preset and a host of texture mods installed and my FPS is consistently above 50. princeofshapeir

Then why not just post your own screenshots instead of passing those off as representative of PC gameplay?

Because whether or not the game was running at a playable framerate in those screenshots wasn't relevant.

So framerate isn't relevant in System Wars now? News to me.
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#247 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Then why not just post your own screenshots instead of passing those off as representative of PC gameplay?lowe0

Because whether or not the game was running at a playable framerate in those screenshots wasn't relevant.

So framerate isn't relevant in System Wars now? News to me.

Hahaha does context mean nothing to you? His original statement doubted whether a fully-modded Skyrim looked next-gen. Not whether it was running at a totally playable framerate. Regardless, take out that grass mod and the game will still look phenomenal and run acceptably.
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#248 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Because whether or not the game was running at a playable framerate in those screenshots wasn't relevant.

princeofshapeir
So framerate isn't relevant in System Wars now? News to me.

Hahaha does context mean nothing to you? His original statement doubted whether a fully-modded Skyrim looked next-gen. Not whether it was running at a totally playable framerate. Regardless, take out that grass mod and the game will still look phenomenal and run acceptably.

Then make that explicit when posting the screenshots. "By the way, you'll have to remove the foliage mod for playable framerates." Would that have been so hard?
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#249 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="lowe0"] So framerate isn't relevant in System Wars now? News to me.

Hahaha does context mean nothing to you? His original statement doubted whether a fully-modded Skyrim looked next-gen. Not whether it was running at a totally playable framerate. Regardless, take out that grass mod and the game will still look phenomenal and run acceptably.

Then make that explicit when posting the screenshots. "By the way, you'll have to remove the foliage mod for playable framerates." Would that have been so hard?

Uh, no, because any idiot can Google for those screenshots (they were very popular when posted, were featured on Kotaku, Reddit, etc.) and find out for themselves. Regardless, how the game plays in those screenshots didn't matter in that context.
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]My sig 100% truth GioVela2010

only if you ignore pc games.

WRONG!

then why'd you put an asterisk disclaimer in your sig?