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#51 Filthybastrd
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

Likewise for certain PC gamers here.

fadersdream

I meant that some PC gamers on this site come off as elitist.

This is what hurts the PC so much. The bigotry and propaganda of an endangered species.

Really? On the other hand we have have console fans so numerous and vigilant that proffesional sites actualy bother comparing multiplat differences that are always miniscule compared to the PC counterpart, this site explodes every time PSN is hacked, RROD is worth bringing up to this very day and PC gaming has been dying for 10 years.

The PC obviously has it's share of rabid fanboys but given the nature of the platform, Hermits tend to actually investigate a little before spouting our nonesense.

Also, I'd be weary of bringing up a topic like propaganda considering how such a thing is far more prevalent when a platform has a specific company backing it, which the PC is unique in being without.

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#52 rastotm
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[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

I meant that some PC gamers on this site come off as elitist.

Filthybastrd

This is what hurts the PC so much. The bigotry and propaganda of an endangered species.

Really? On the other hand we have have console fans so numerous and vigilant that proffesional sites actualy bother comparing multiplat differences that are always miniscule compared to the PC counterpart, this site explodes every time PSN is hacked, RROD is worth bringing up to this very day and PC gaming has been dying for 10 years.

The PC obviously has it's share of rabid fanboys but given the nature of the platform, Hermits tend to actually investigate a little before spouting our nonesense.

Also, I'd be weary of bringing up a topic like propaganda considering how such a thing is far more prevalent when a platform has a specific company backing it, which the PC is unique in being without.

The problem with the pc vs console community is,
Kinds don't get a PC for their birthday they get a console.

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#53 lespaul1919
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there is little to no difference,in the end a game is a game. there was a time PC had superior games, but now they end up on console too, yet the consoles get the best exclusives. so I see no superiority at all.

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#54 meetroid8
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If I had to choose between PC gaming and console gaming I would choose PC, and I'm a die hard Nintendo fan.
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#55 Filthybastrd
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there is little to no difference,in the end a game is a game. there was a time PC had superior games, but now they end up on console too, yet the consoles get the best exclusives. so I see no superiority at all.

lespaul1919

No so far this year. Not so in 07 either. he time in between is probably a matter of what you think of RTS. At any rate the plaform is severely impressive in how succesfull it is without multimillion advertising budgets flung around every two weeks.

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#56 SajuukSW
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there is little to no difference,in the end a game is a game. there was a time PC had superior games, but now they end up on console too, yet the consoles get the best exclusives. so I see no superiority at all.

lespaul1919
1080p(+)/60fps is considerably superior to 720p/30fps (and that's being generous). Game quality is entirely subjective, so yea...
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#57 Frozzik
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These threads make me laugh. You say PC gaming isnt all that, then say you don't have a high end rig lol. Ask most PC gamers and you will find they own Atleast one console too. We love gaming, it just so happens PC is our favorite. Ask most console gamers and they don't have a good gaming PC. This is the whole problem here in SW. How can you judge the quality of PC gaming, at the top end, when you have never done it? Really? It's insane. Now, I have many games on both PS3 and PC ( steam sales are usually too good to pass). Including, AC2, Borderlands, GTA4, Mafia 2 and several others. I can see the difference, it's big, in many ways. Why can't PC gamers point these differences out here on SW? 360 and PS3 fanboys look down on Wii gamers constantly, yet they hate it when PC gamers claim superiority over them. The difference between 360 and PS3 is do small it is hardly worth mentioning yet both sides constantly battle for superiority. Why can't PC gamers do the same? Maybe, this is just a suggestion, all these people that hate on PC gamers should try high end PC gaming, with all it's perks and all it's advantages and then come back. You may not have to like it but you may see why PC gamers say what they do.
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#58 Mograine
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there is little to no difference,in the end a game is a game. there was a time PC had superior games, but now they end up on console too, yet the consoles get the best exclusives. so I see no superiority at all.

lespaul1919

Somebody has never played a PC exclusive, ever.

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#59 GeneralShowzer
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BFBC2

Crysis 2

DAO

FNV

Brink

I simply dont see the advantage to playing them on PC over console. Your thoughts?kungfuchaos

:roll:

You're either what they call a fakerboy, or you simply want to ignore all the advantages.

I get it with MW2, but these games?

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PC gaming "superiority" is real, but it's a type of superiority that matters literally zilch to a great number of people - and the increased hassle of the PC utterly nullifies it for many. I liken it to Blu Ray VS DVD. Not a perfect likeness, but, there are points of contact. Blu Ray is undoubtedly superior to DVDs (at this point as we're getting into decent price ranges, comparable read speeds, etc)... But most of the viewing audience really doesn't care whether they're watching The Shawshank Redemption at true 1080p or good old SD. The movie is what makes it, not the technical specs, and people watching their favourite movie the first time on VHS enjoyed it just as much as people now watching them on Blu Ray. Our rabid infatuation and overvaluation of the slight perks of modern compared to older technology is bordering on some sort of mental fixation. PC gamer fanatics are like those obnoxious videophiles who sit there and brag about their 52 inch plasma with 7.1 surround sound and blu ray setup giving them the undeniably superior experience, not realizing that many of us care more about the movies than the technical trappings and are 100% satisfied watching our favourite movie on our simple 30 inch TV setup with a nice simple DVD player setup, one remote, not having to wrestle with setup and settings and blah blah blah... They keep talking, it irritates us, but we just don't care. Sure if someone dropped all that stuff in our lap, I'm sure many of us wouldn't complain, but it's so low on many of our priority lists, mainly because we just don't care about it - whatever they want to believe. I say this as a guy with a rather nice setup (one HDTV, two monitors at my work/play area, a PC capable of running Crysis with ease that outputs to the two monitors, and two current gen consoles). I'm a moderate technophile, but unlike many of my kind, I *get* that most people just don't care and a slightly bigger screen, slightly higher resolution, slightly less muddy textures, etc etc, really doesn't mean much to most people.
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Personally, I do believe that PC gaming is best because, well, I do it, and I prefer doing it to console gaming, for a number of reasons, but I do get fed up with the way some people around here act. For example, the endless spurting out of the word 'consolisation' towards games which, in reality, show incredibly little sign that they are in fact in any way dumbed down, or whining about games simply because they are console ports, with no regard for, you know, how much effort has actually been put into them, and the actual quality of the game inside, and the way they hold PC exclusives up on such a ridiculous pedestal, as if they were created by angels up in the clouds from unicorn hair, dragon's blood and molten silver, even if they have glaring flaws with them, they don't take account for them because hey, they're PC exclusive, and therefore they are xxxxx times better than any game that isnt a PC exclusive, no matter how, you know, actually good they are. And they do the same with any game that is in any way remotely good looking. And they do the same with older, 'more hardcore' games, immediately writing off newer games because, hey, they're a console port/they don't have as many RPG elements/they don't require you to have the patience of a giant tortoise and the hand eye coordination of a jet fighter pilot to even get past the first level. Anyway, that's my $0.02, have fun!
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As someone who plays on a PC, 360 and Wii there's not some vast difference in quality.

Different types of games, to be sure but each platform has great games. I'm not picking and choosing favorites between them because it's silly.

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As someone who plays on a PC, 360 and Wii there's not some vast difference in quality.

Different types of games, to be sure but each platform has great games. I'm not picking and choosing favorites between them because it's silly.

NeonNinja

haha i love ur sig.

anyways, i would say pc has some superiority but its overblown in some cases.

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it has more high scoring exclusives this gen alone than all three consoles combined.

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Consistently better performance and graphics, along with complete customization and user freedom...seems superior to me :\SajuukSW
Your forgetting about the games. PC doesn't have much games so all that goes to waste.
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#66 Arach666
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[QUOTE="SajuukSW"]Consistently better performance and graphics, along with complete customization and user freedom...seems superior to me :\Mr_Cumberdale
Your forgetting about the games. PC doesn't have much games so all that goes to waste.

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[QUOTE="SajuukSW"]Consistently better performance and graphics, along with complete customization and user freedom...seems superior to me :\Mr_Cumberdale
Your forgetting about the games. PC doesn't have much games so all that goes to waste.

Well, crap, what have I been playing for the past few years?
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#68 Mograine
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Your forgetting about the games. PC doesn't have much games so all that goes to waste.Mr_Cumberdale

Math really wasn't your strongest point back in school I bet, considering PC gets more games than all three consoles combined.

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it has more high scoring exclusives this gen alone than all three consoles combined.

CaseyWegner

yet no games worth playing. odd.

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#70 SajuukSW
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it has more high scoring exclusives this gen alone than all three consoles combined.

lespaul1919

yet no games worth playing. odd.

Because you say so? Selling my PC nao QQ
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#71 Arach666
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it has more high scoring exclusives this gen alone than all three consoles combined.

lespaul1919

yet no games worth playing. odd.

If having more high scoring games than the consoles still doesn´t make it have games worth playing,then imagine the consoles with less high scoring exclusives. :lol:

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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it has more high scoring exclusives this gen alone than all three consoles combined.

Arach666

yet no games worth playing. odd.

If having more high scoring games than the consoles still doesn´t make it have games worth playing,then imagine the consoles with less high scoring exclusives. :lol:

then why does my PC lay unused for years?!?! The only game I still play on it is from 2003. :-/

yet the 360 gets played almost daily. crazy.

plus, scores mean nothing to me if I don't like the game. any RTS or RPG or SIM or MMO might as well not even exist.

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#73 SajuukSW
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

yet no games worth playing. odd.

lespaul1919

If having more high scoring games than the consoles still doesn´t make it have games worth playing,then imagine the consoles with less high scoring exclusives. :lol:

then why does my PC lay unused for years?!?! The only game I still play on it is from 2003. :-/

yet the 360 gets played almost daily. crazy.

You posting on GS from your 360 too?
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it has more high scoring exclusives this gen alone than all three consoles combined.

lespaul1919

yet no games worth playing. odd.

I may not be as big as a PC gamer as a lot of people(though I love it), but you got to be kidding me.

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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it has more high scoring exclusives this gen alone than all three consoles combined.

mitu123

yet no games worth playing. odd.

I may not be as big as a PC gamer as a lot of people(though I love it), but you got to be kidding me.

last good games exclusive PC games were the stalker games.

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#76 lespaul1919
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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] If having more high scoring games than the consoles still doesn´t make it have games worth playing,then imagine the consoles with less high scoring exclusives. :lol:

SajuukSW

then why does my PC lay unused for years?!?! The only game I still play on it is from 2003. :-/

yet the 360 gets played almost daily. crazy.

You posting on GS from your 360 too?

for gaming. I use my compter mostly for auido and video editing, then internet. games....not so much anymore.

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#77 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

yet no games worth playing. odd.

lespaul1919

I may not be as big as a PC gamer as a lot of people(though I love it), but you got to be kidding me.

last good games exclusive PC games were the stalker games.

One just came out last week...

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#78 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

yet no games worth playing. odd.

lespaul1919

If having more high scoring games than the consoles still doesn´t make it have games worth playing,then imagine the consoles with less high scoring exclusives. :lol:

then why does my PC lay unused for years?!?! The only game I still play on it is from 2003. :-/

yet the 360 gets played almost daily. crazy.

Your personal experience is completely irrelevant,onlly facts matter. Because if opinions were something to go by,then consoles would be completely irrelevant to me,considering that I´ve only bought 3 or 4 games in over a year,while at the same time I´ve got dozens of new PC games. So I guess consoles don´t have games woth playing.
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#79 lespaul1919
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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] I may not be as big as a PC gamer as a lot of people(though I love it), but you got to be kidding me.

mitu123

last good games exclusive PC games were the stalker games.

One just came out last week...

??? must have missed it.

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#80 SajuukSW
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

yet no games worth playing. odd.

lespaul1919

I may not be as big as a PC gamer as a lot of people(though I love it), but you got to be kidding me.

last good games exclusive PC games were the stalker games.

According to you?
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#81 Arach666
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plus, scores mean nothing to me if I don't like the game. any RTS or RPG or SIM or MMO might as well not even exist.

lespaul1919

Great,then since I don´t like platformers,figthers,hack & slashers,motion controls games or JRPG´s then the consoles libraries have almost nothing to offer as well.

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#82 GeneralShowzer
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for gaming. I use my compter mostly for auido and video editing, then internet. games....not so much anymore.

lespaul1919

last good games exclusive PC games were the stalker games.lespaul1919
Are you a wizard? If you don't use your PC for gaming, how do you know these things.

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#83 lespaul1919
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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

plus, scores mean nothing to me if I don't like the game. any RTS or RPG or SIM or MMO might as well not even exist.

Arach666

Great,then since I don´t like platformers,figthers,hack & slashers,motion controls games or JRPG´s then the consoles libraries have almost nothing to offer as well.

that would be a great argument if I liked even one of those genres.

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#84 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

last good games exclusive PC games were the stalker games.

lespaul1919

One just came out last week...

??? must have missed it.

But you hate RPGs so you won't like it I guess.

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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

PC gamers are just more vocal than your average console gamer.

For first-person shooters, strategy games, certain kinds of action games - I'd take the mouse and keyboard.

For racing games and fighting games, I want a controller.

This is coming from a PC gamer, by the way.

The_Capitalist

Agreed. However there are other factors you must take into consideration. Like mods. I would consider Oblivion one of the worst games I ever played without its modding community to be honest. Vannilla Oblivion was SO **** BORING FOR ME but the mods made it one of the greatest titles I ever bought.

Mods make a huge difference to an enjoyment of a game. A game with a modding community can extend its lifespam indefinately and basically be transfromed into many other WHOLE GAMES, not just mods of that game.

Games with extensive modding communities like Oblivion are quite rare, actually. For example, FEAR had an SDK, but how many mods were actually made with it? I can only count less than a dozen on its ModDB page.

Mods are an advantage - depending on the game. Something like Oblivion begs for tweaks, and even the less technically versed can create small mods quite easily. But, for games like Half-Life and so many other first person shooters, the amount of expertise required to create good mods is so high that very few high quality mods actually get released for public consumption.

Black Mesa, anyone?

I wouldn't call mods an absolute trump card in PC gaming - it's more of an extra. I am a PC gamer only because I prefer the mouse and keyboard.

Wait, what? Half Life 2 is probably one of the most modded games in history. Zombie Panic, Research and Development, Age of Chivalry etc.

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#86 lespaul1919
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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]for gaming. I use my compter mostly for auido and video editing, then internet. games....not so much anymore.

GeneralShowzer

last good games exclusive PC games were the stalker games.lespaul1919
Are you a wizard? If you don't use your PC for gaming, how do you know these things.

nice double quote and edit fail. I obviously meant now. Haven't touched a stalker game since the last one came out lol. I play a single PC game......maybe oncea month.

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#87 lespaul1919
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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] One just came out last week...

mitu123

??? must have missed it.

But you hate RPGs so you won't like it I guess.

bingo.

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#88 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

plus, scores mean nothing to me if I don't like the game. any RTS or RPG or SIM or MMO might as well not even exist.

lespaul1919

Great,then since I don´t like platformers,figthers,hack & slashers,motion controls games or JRPG´s then the consoles libraries have almost nothing to offer as well.

that would be a great argument if I liked even one of those genres.

So,considering you don´t like,RTS´s,RPG´s,Sim´s,MMO´s,Platformers,figthers or hack &slashers,what do you like then? CoD?
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#89 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"] [QUOTE="lespaul1919"]last good games exclusive PC games were the stalker games.lespaul1919

Are you a wizard? If you don't use your PC for gaming, how do you know these things.

nice double quote and edit fail. I obviously meant now. Haven't touched a stalker game since the last one came out lol. I play a single PC game......maybe oncea month.

This all seems very contradictory to me. First your PC layed unused for years, now you play once a month, yet you somehow know that no exclusives are worth playing.

Sounds to me like the Stalker games were the last you could run on your rig.

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#90 lespaul1919
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love FPS, hate CoD. CoD is for nubs.

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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Are you a wizard? If you don't use your PC for gaming, how do you know these things.

GeneralShowzer

nice double quote and edit fail. I obviously meant now. Haven't touched a stalker game since the last one came out lol. I play a single PC game......maybe oncea month.

This all seems very contradictory to me. First your PC layed unused for years, now you play once a month, yet you somehow know that no exclusives are worth playing.

Sounds to me like the Stalker games were the last you could run on your rig.

name a good PC game from the last year. please.

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#92 Nerkcon
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

Likewise for certain PC gamers here.

fadersdream

I meant that some PC gamers on this site come off as elitist.

This is what hurts the PC so much. The bigotry and propaganda of an endangered species.

I wouldn't call them endangered, they are successfully converting people onto their side. I see it mostly on Youtube and that forbidden image board though so I could be wrong here. its good they're are being a little mean now when I first tried Oblivion on the PC I was having trouble installing mods so I went to Bethesda's official forums. I forgot waht was my question but it was a very basic and very stupid question as I was new to messing with computer files. They were helpful at first but when they I didn't get it the nice people left and mean people came into the thread. I was flamed and made fun of for 6+ pages before the thread got locked. But in 06-09 hermtis gave the false impression that you could go anywhere and ask any question no matter how stupid, PC gamers will help you. :(
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#93 Arach666
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

nice double quote and edit fail. I obviously meant now. Haven't touched a stalker game since the last one came out lol. I play a single PC game......maybe oncea month.

lespaul1919

This all seems very contradictory to me. First your PC layed unused for years, now you play once a month, yet you somehow know that no exclusives are worth playing.

Sounds to me like the Stalker games were the last you could run on your rig.

name a good PC game from the last year. please.

Starcraft 2.
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#94 Mograine
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name a good PC game from the last year. please.

lespaul1919

Starcraft 2.

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#95 lespaul1919
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lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll good one guys. RTS lol.

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

nice double quote and edit fail. I obviously meant now. Haven't touched a stalker game since the last one came out lol. I play a single PC game......maybe oncea month.

lespaul1919

This all seems very contradictory to me. First your PC layed unused for years, now you play once a month, yet you somehow know that no exclusives are worth playing.

Sounds to me like the Stalker games were the last you could run on your rig.

name a good PC game from the last year. please.

Shogun II, Witcher 2, Retribution, Men of War, Capsized, Terraria, Frozen Synapse?
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#97 Arach666
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lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll good one guys. RTS lol.

lespaul1919
lol,making excuses when ya get owned,lolllllllllllllllll! :lol:
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#98 cain006
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lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll good one guys. RTS lol.

lespaul1919

How about Stalker CoP then? It's a FPS.

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#99 Mograine
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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] This all seems very contradictory to me. First your PC layed unused for years, now you play once a month, yet you somehow know that no exclusives are worth playing.

Sounds to me like the Stalker games were the last you could run on your rig.

SajuukSW

name a good PC game from the last year. please.

Shogun II, Witcher 2, Retribution, Men of War, Capsized, Terraria, Frozen Synapse?

Last year is 2010.

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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] This all seems very contradictory to me. First your PC layed unused for years, now you play once a month, yet you somehow know that no exclusives are worth playing.

Sounds to me like the Stalker games were the last you could run on your rig.

SajuukSW

name a good PC game from the last year. please.

Shogun II, Witcher 2, Retribution, Men of War, Capsized, Terraria, Frozen Synapse?

literally would never play any of those.