PC gets another AAAE

So it's just unfair?

15strong

Disagreeing, doesn't necessarily make something unfair. 

Hell, you can argue it for the current generation, if you'd like. At the very least, I believe we count  all  downloadable games for the consoles, now.

[QUOTE="15strong"]

So it's just unfair?

lundy86_4

Disagreeing, doesn't necessarily make something unfair. 

Explain to me what I explained is fair in any way.

Explain to me what I explained is fair in any way.

15strong

Why do I need to? If you have an issue, talk to a mod/ranger/admin :?

The protocols here are not perfect. For example, how 'flops' are determined. 

[QUOTE="15strong"]

Explain to me what I explained is fair in any way.

lundy86_4

Why do I need to? If you have an issue, talk to a mod/ranger/admin :?

Hahaha. So it is unfair. 

I'm just talking over the logistics of it. It really dosn't matter to me if it changes or not.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

Explain to me what I explained is fair in any way.

15strong

Why do I need to? If you have an issue, talk to a mod/ranger/admin :?

Hahaha. So it is unfair. 

I'm just talking over the logistics of it. It really dosn't matter to me if it changes or not.

You aren't making sense. I'm simply saying, that if you have an issue, take it to those who can put your queries to rest, or at least forward you to someone who can. Nowhere, did I admit, that it was unfair.

Anyway, I did my part :)

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Ehhh never cared for the civ games

jhonMalcovich

You should. It´s one  of the most addictive franchises of all times.

Why would I play a game that I don't like? 

[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Why do I need to? If you have an issue, talk to a mod/ranger/admin :?

lundy86_4

Hahaha. So it is unfair. 

I'm just talking over the logistics of it. It really dosn't matter to me if it changes or not.

You aren't making sense. I'm simply saying, that if you have an issue, take it to those who can put your queries to rest, or at least forward you to someone who can. Nowhere, did I admit, that it was unfair.

Anyway, I did my part :)

Hey, if you do not want to debate the unfair rules of the metagame, that's fine. Just say so. You don't have to point to a mod, I'm intellegent enough to do that on my own. Just pointing it out as the rules of the metgame are so ingrained into system wars, yet they favor one platform over the others.

Anyone else want to weigh in?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

Expansion dosen't count. Seriously, that's the rules. I think.

It's difficult for me to get into Civ 5. I just dont spend the required time to learn everything. I'm a noob at it.

15strong

100% incorrect.

Makes no sense to me. Why do we even have the metagame if PC can break the rules?

PC indie titles count as full games, while XBLA nad PSN games don't.

And the expansions count but DLC is ignored on consoles. 

Edit: I think everything should count, just don't see why the PC get preferential treatment.

It wasn't simply PC gamers who made those rules. That's the thing.

Blame cows for indie games not counting, and blame the entire PC market for not giving preferential treatment to retail releases? I don't know.

Anywho, expansions are FULL games built using an existing game's assets. They aren't just a simple few DLC multiplayer maps, or an hour long side mission.

The same type of DLC that's ignored on consoles is also ignored on PC. Games like "Ballad of Gay Tony", and "The Lost and Damned" (GTA4) are not ignored.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

got it pre-ordered and can start the download in about three hours. that being said, this isn't a new game so it's not really a AAAE. it's an expansion in the truest sense of the word.

JangoWuzHere

Expansions count in system wars.

not this kind. it's not a standalone new game like crysis warhead or something that adds enough content like a WoW expansion. it adds units and features to an existing game.

[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

100% incorrect.

Ly_the_Fairy

Makes no sense to me. Why do we even have the metagame if PC can break the rules?

PC indie titles count as full games, while XBLA nad PSN games don't.

And the expansions count but DLC is ignored on consoles. 

Edit: I think everything should count, just don't see why the PC get preferential treatment.

It wasn't simply PC gamers who made those rules. That's the thing.

Blame cows for indie games not counting, and blame the entire PC market for not giving preferential treatment to retail releases? I don't know.

Anywho, expansions are FULL games built using an existing game's assets. They aren't just a simple few DLC multiplayer maps, or an hour long side mission.

The same type of DLC that's ignored on consoles is also ignored on PC. Games like "Ballad of Gay Tony", and "The Lost and Damned" (GTA4) are not ignored.

Well then as a community we have failed to regulate and maintain the rules. 

The DLC vs Expansion debate is a very interesting one. Some DLC's seem to be robust enough, but I'm not sure how gamespot goes about reviewing them.

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

Makes no sense to me. Why do we even have the metagame if PC can break the rules?

PC indie titles count as full games, while XBLA nad PSN games don't.

And the expansions count but DLC is ignored on consoles. 

Edit: I think everything should count, just don't see why the PC get preferential treatment.

15strong

It wasn't simply PC gamers who made those rules. That's the thing.

Blame cows for indie games not counting, and blame the entire PC market for not giving preferential treatment to retail releases? I don't know.

Anywho, expansions are FULL games built using an existing game's assets. They aren't just a simple few DLC multiplayer maps, or an hour long side mission.

The same type of DLC that's ignored on consoles is also ignored on PC. Games like "Ballad of Gay Tony", and "The Lost and Damned" (GTA4) are not ignored.

Well then as a community we have failed to regulate and maintain the rules. 

The DLC vs Expansion debate is a very interesting one. Some DLC's seem to be robust enough, but I'm not sure how gamespot goes about reviewing them.

there are always exceptions. like how we have to look at how different different versions of games across platforms are such as the case with things like graw, the show, and ninja gaiden.

Another TPS that i couldnt care less about, let me know when PC gets a game that has a story to care about and not a TPS

Another TPS that i couldnt care less about, let me know when PC gets a game that has a story to care about and not a TPS

finalstar2007

civ V isn't a third person shooter

Another TPS that i couldnt care less about, let me know when PC gets a game that has a story to care about and not a TPS

finalstar2007

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Another TPS that i couldnt care less about, let me know when PC gets a game that has a story to care about and not a TPS

lostrib

civ V isn't a third person shooter

Probably means TBS. Either way he stuffed up while trying to insult the PC. 

It's like system wars keeps on getting "dumper and dumper". 

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Another TPS that i couldnt care less about, let me know when PC gets a game that has a story to care about and not a TPS

mems_1224

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Another TPS that i couldnt care less about, let me know when PC gets a game that has a story to care about and not a TPS

lostrib

civ V isn't a third person shooter

Wopsie i meant to say *strategy* game not TPS *Third Person Shooter* lol

i'll be interested when the PC gets a game that actually has good story and not moving armies from one place to another the entire game.

good score for the PC people tho

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Another TPS that i couldnt care less about, let me know when PC gets a game that has a story to care about and not a TPS

finalstar2007

civ V isn't a third person shooter

Wopsie i meant to say *strategy* game not TPS *Third Person Shooter* lol

i'll be interested when the PC gets a game that actually has good story and not moving armies from one place to another the entire game.

good score for the PC people tho

A good story? Finalstar,some of the best stories in gaming are on the PC,even the last four years story awards on GS,three of them went to PC only titles.

If what you want is good stories then you´re missing out big time by not gaming on the PC,but that really wasn´t your intent and we all know it.

And it´s a good score yes,in fact amazing score,but not just for the PC people but gamers in general,only fanboys like you get butthurt like this when another system gets a high scoring game,especially when it´s the system that gets the most of them,the PC.

good story finalstar2007

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]good story Blabadon

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Another TPS that i couldnt care less about, let me know when PC gets a game that has a story to care about and not a TPS

finalstar2007

civ V isn't a third person shooter

Wopsie i meant to say *strategy* game not TPS *Third Person Shooter* lol

i'll be interested when the PC gets a game that actually has good story and not moving armies from one place to another the entire game.

good score for the PC people tho

moving armies? i guess you don't know much about the civ games. there are more ways to win non-militarily than there are through combat.

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Ehhh never cared for the civ games

seanmcloughlin

You should. It´s one  of the most addictive franchises of all times.

Why would I play a game that I don't like? 

I´ve said you should, not that you must. Still it´s your miss. Civilization games are all timers.

Yet another game I'd never play. Oh how I hate RTS, MMOs and Tower Defense. Which is a lot of PC exclusives.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

You should. It´s one  of the most addictive franchises of all times.

jhonMalcovich

Why would I play a game that I don't like? 

I´ve said you should, not that you must. Still it´s your miss. Civilization games are all timers.

sounds like he probably tried it.

Yet another game I'd never play. Oh how I hate RTS, MMOs and Tower Defense. Which is a lot of PC exclusives.

immortality20

good thing Civ V is none of those things

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]good story Blabadon

[QUOTE="immortality20"]

Yet another game I'd never play. Oh how I hate RTS, MMOs and Tower Defense. Which is a lot of PC exclusives.

lostrib

good thing Civ V is none of those things

Yet another game I'd never play. Oh how I hate RTS, MMOs and Tower Defense. Which is a lot of PC exclusives.

immortality20

Yet another game I'd never play. Oh how I hate RTS, MMOs and Tower Defense. Which is a lot of PC exclusives.

immortality20

Have you ever tried Civilization?

It's not as if every single game in a specific genre all play the same.

[QUOTE="immortality20"]

Yet another game I'd never play. Oh how I hate RTS, MMOs and Tower Defense. Which is a lot of PC exclusives.

ArisShadows

i think people think all strategy games=starcraft

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]good story Vaasman

[QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="immortality20"]

Yet another game I'd never play. Oh how I hate RTS, MMOs and Tower Defense. Which is a lot of PC exclusives.

lostrib

i think people think all strategy games=starcraft

Amazing game. Cows and Lems be jelly, exclusive to Nintendo/PC. 

Yet another game I'd never play. Oh how I hate RTS, MMOs and Tower Defense. Which is a lot of PC exclusives.

immortality20

then you should play this game. it's none of those.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ArisShadows"] People definately don't understand what Civilization is, do they?psymon100

i think people think all strategy games=starcraft

Amazing game. Cows and Lems be jelly, exclusive to Nintendo/PC. 

I could never get into the CiV games, but I understand the appeal. I prefer the Total War series since you have a sort of end goal in sight from the start while in CiV you just build your empire. 

I could never get into the CiV games, but I understand the appeal. I prefer the Total War series since you have a sort of end goal in sight from the start while in CiV you just build your empire. 

with_teeth26

you have to have a certain victory type in mind pretty early on otherwise you could have a rough time.

[QUOTE="psymon100"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

i think people think all strategy games=starcraft

Vaasman

Amazing game. Cows and Lems be jelly, exclusive to Nintendo/PC. 

But nobody play this kind of genre anymore

and Metacritic says otherwise

But nobody play this kind of genre anymore

 

and Metacritic says otherwise

hippiesanta

this isn't metacritic's forum.

But nobody play this kind of genre anymore

 

and Metacritic says otherwise

hippiesanta

plenty of people play this genre

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]

But nobody play this kind of genre anymore

 

and Metacritic says otherwise

lostrib

plenty of people play this genre

they wouldn't be on their second expansion if nobody played the genre.

oh. it's downloading right now. i'll get to play it tomorrow.

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]

this isn't metacritic's forum.

CaseyWegner

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]

But nobody play this kind of genre anymore

 

and Metacritic says otherwise

lostrib

plenty of people play this genre

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]

But nobody play this kind of genre anymore

 

and Metacritic says otherwise

hippiesanta

plenty of people play this genre

Globally, I would imagine

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"] we must not afraid

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]

But nobody play this kind of genre anymore

 

and Metacritic says otherwise

lostrib

plenty of people play this genre

[QUOTE="immortality20"]

Yet another game I'd never play. Oh how I hate RTS, MMOs and Tower Defense. Which is a lot of PC exclusives.

Ly_the_Fairy

Have you ever tried Civilization?

It's not as if every single game in a specific genre all play the same.

It IS an RTS. So what if it has different elements? I don't find them fun, and I don't need to justify why I don't spend money on a game. I simply don't find them fun, I'm glad you enjoy them but they're not for me.

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="immortality20"]

Yet another game I'd never play. Oh how I hate RTS, MMOs and Tower Defense. Which is a lot of PC exclusives.

immortality20

Have you ever tried Civilization?

It's not as if every single game in a specific genre all play the same.

It IS an RTS. So what if it has different elements? I don't find them fun, and I don't need to justify why I don't spend money on a game. I simply don't find them fun, I'm glad you enjoy them but they're not for me.

Yeah, so what if they're entirely different. Real time is different from turn based