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#101 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="immortality20"]

Yet another game I'd never play. Oh how I hate RTS, MMOs and Tower Defense. Which is a lot of PC exclusives.

immortality20

Have you ever tried Civilization?

It's not as if every single game in a specific genre all play the same.

It IS an RTS. So what if it has different elements? I don't find them fun, and I don't need to justify why I don't spend money on a game. I simply don't find them fun, I'm glad you enjoy them but they're not for me.

Ok well someone doesn't know his strategy subgenres.

If it's turn-based, it's not real time.

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#102 MrYaotubo
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It IS an RTS. 

immortality20

No,it isn´t.

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#103 funsohng
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Time to time travel forward into the future again.
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#104 Wasdie  Moderator
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Another TPS that i couldnt care less about, let me know when PC gets a game that has a story to care about and not a TPS

finalstar2007

Want a story? Read a book, read a comic, read the Bible, watch a movie, watch a TV show, watch a mini-series...

You're in one of the WORST media entertainment mediums for storytelling. Period.

Yes games can tell great stories but games with a worth while tale, good charactres, and a good plot, make up about 1% of all video games ever made. You're in the wrong medium and it's laughable that you believe this is a valid reason to NOT play a video game.

You can claim "but it's my opinion" but the only person you're fooling is yourself.

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#105 funsohng
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Another TPS that i couldnt care less about, let me know when PC gets a game that has a story to care about and not a TPS

Wasdie

Want a story? Read a book, read a comic, read the Bible, watch a movie, watch a TV show, watch a mini-series...

You're in one of the WORST media entertainment mediums for storytelling. Period.

Yes games can tell great stories but games with a worth while tale, good charactres, and a good plot, make up about 1% of all video games ever made. You're in the wrong medium and it's laughable that you believe this is a valid reason to NOT play a video game.

You can claim "but it's my opinion" but the only person you're fooling is yourself.

You are talking to a guy who thinks the best movie of the year is Man of Steel. I doubt he understands what good storytelling is in first place.
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#106 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="immortality20"]

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

Have you ever tried Civilization?

It's not as if every single game in a specific genre all play the same.

lostrib

It IS an RTS. So what if it has different elements? I don't find them fun, and I don't need to justify why I don't spend money on a game. I simply don't find them fun, I'm glad you enjoy them but they're not for me.

Yeah, so what if they're entirely different. Real time is different from turn based

It boggles the mind that people actually think that turn based=RTS :lol:
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#107 Wasdie  Moderator
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It boggles the mind that people actually think that turn based=RTS :lol:mems_1224

People will try to justify their irrational hate of a platform by any means necessary. This goes for all platforms.

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#108 MrYaotubo
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="immortality20"]

It IS an RTS. So what if it has different elements? I don't find them fun, and I don't need to justify why I don't spend money on a game. I simply don't find them fun, I'm glad you enjoy them but they're not for me.

mems_1224

Yeah, so what if they're entirely different. Real time is different from turn based

It boggles the mind that people actually think that turn based=RTS :lol:

Actually,I´m pretty sure he likes quite a few of those turn based weeboo games,maybe if instead of Ghandi or Montezuma Civ had Kazumi-chan the kawaii high school girl or Motoko-kun the pervert desu desu he´d be a huge fan of it.

Maybe being a playstation exclusive would be enough tho.

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#109 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Shame I could never get into the Civ games. They obviously ooze quality, but WAY too much micromanagement for my taste. Good to see the strategy guys get another good expansion to play with though.

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#110 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Yeah, so what if they're entirely different. Real time is different from turn based

MrYaotubo

It boggles the mind that people actually think that turn based=RTS :lol:

Actually,I´m pretty sure he likes quite a few of those turn based weeboo games,maybe if instead of Ghandi or Montezuma Civ had Kazumi-chan the kawaii high school girl or Motoko-kun the pervert desu desu he´d be a huge fan of it.

Maybe being a playstation exclusive would be enough tho.

Im down for replacing Montezuma with anyone. F that guy, such a jerk. STOP RUSHING ME YOU ASSHOLE!
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#111 Infinite_Access
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Wow. I should really play Civ 5. I do own it. 

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Same... everytime I try i easily get overwhelmed or bored.
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#112 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="hippiesanta"] In koreaMrYaotubo
That´s Starcraft and that´s an RTS,they aren´t know to play TBS games anywhere near at that level,and the CiV games sell millions of copies,most of them in Europe and the US.

Holy crap. The amount of ignorance in this thread could fill up a school.

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#113 CJ_ofCamelot
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]It boggles the mind that people actually think that turn based=RTS :lol:Wasdie

People will try to justify their irrational hate of a platform by any means necessary. This goes for all platforms.

Reminds me of nintendo haters. dr_mario_wii.gif
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#114 funsohng
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[QUOTE="hippiesanta"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

plenty of people play this genre

MrYaotubo
In korea

That´s Starcraft and that´s an RTS,they aren´t know to play TBS games anywhere near at that level,and the CiV games sell millions of copies,most of them in Europe and the US.

Civ is one of the best selling packaged games in Korea. Civ V rivalled SC2 here (mostly because SC2 kinda flopped). At least the memes over the internet definitely. Koreans don't really like SC2. Or D3. Both flopped. LoL is the new champ.
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#115 MrYaotubo
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="MrYaotubo"][QUOTE="hippiesanta"] In korea

That´s Starcraft and that´s an RTS,they aren´t know to play TBS games anywhere near at that level,and the CiV games sell millions of copies,most of them in Europe and the US.

Civ is one of the best selling packaged games in Korea. Civ V rivalled SC2 here (mostly because SC2 kinda flopped). At least the memes over the internet definitely. Koreans don't really like SC2. Or D3. Both flopped. LoL is the new champ.

Really? I wasn´t aware that Civ was big in Korea,I never hear anyone talk about it as much as Stracraft in there(in fact,not at all),at least I don´t,good to know tho.
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#116 PannicAtack
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I played a session of Civ IV years ago. I couldn't really get into it after that session, for some reason. "Baba Yetu" was totally boss, though.
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#117 Praisedasun
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I have played every civilization since 3.Good games,not my cup of tea though.I just play a few games and then stop playing them.It would be nice if they had a campaign mode or something.Civ 5 didn't have one,as far as I am concerned.

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#118 harry_james_pot  Moderator
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Another TPS that i couldnt care less about, let me know when PC gets a game that has a story to care about and not a TPS

Wasdie

Want a story? Read a book, read a comic, read the Bible, watch a movie, watch a TV show, watch a mini-series...

You're in one of the WORST media entertainment mediums for storytelling. Period.

Yes games can tell great stories but games with a worth while tale, good charactres, and a good plot, make up about 1% of all video games ever made. You're in the wrong medium and it's laughable that you believe this is a valid reason to NOT play a video game.

You can claim "but it's my opinion" but the only person you're fooling is yourself.

As someone who believes that stories are a very important aspect of games, I gotta disagree. Adventure games are a whole genre that focuses on stories, and there are tons of them out there with fantastic stories. And aside from the adventure genre, there are still lots and lots of games with great stories that came out recently. Bioshock Infinite, Metro, LA Noire, The Walking Dead, Dishonored, etc.. Oh and I even forgot about RPGs, another genre that tells great stories. That "1%" you mentioned applies to the amount of games that has story quality that can compare to books or movies, and I completely agree on that. But we don't really have to compare it like this, It doesn't have to reach that level to be considered a good story.
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#119 PannicAtack
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there are still lots and lots of games with great stories that came out recently... Dishonoredharry_james_pot
But Dishonored's story was terrible.

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[QUOTE="harry_james_pot"]there are still lots and lots of games with great stories that came out recently... DishonoredPannicAtack

But Dishonored's story was terrible.

It wasn't terrible but it had the same problem that every game with a silent protagonist has.
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] It wasn't terrible but it had the same problem that every game with a silent protagonist has.

Which is?
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#122 Mozelleple112
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The 9.5 drought has endedBlabadon
Should have been given to TLOU or Bioshock: Infinite :P
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#123 mems_1224
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Which is?harry_james_pot
Stories with silent protagonists always turn the player into a glorified errand boy. Its supposed to immerse the player in the experience because "you are corvo" but it usually has the opposite effect because you just blindly do what you're told with no voice of your own. People just talk at you and you dont get attached to any of the characters.

 

Dont get me wrong, I loved Dishonored. It was a fun game but the story was just flat and missed many good opportunities. Especially with the relationship between Corvo and Emily. I didn't care about any of the characters I was supposed to care about.

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#124 MrYaotubo
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[QUOTE="harry_james_pot"] Which is?mems_1224
Stories with silent protagonists always turn the player into a glorified errand boy. Its supposed to immerse the player in the experience because "you are corvo" but it usually has the opposite effect because you just blindly do what you're told with no voice of your own. People just talk at you and you dont get attached to any of the characters. Dont get me wrong, I loved Dishonored. It was a fun game but the story was just flat and missed many good opportunities. Especially with the relationship between Corvo and Emily. I didn't care about any of the characters I was supposed to care about.

Well to be fair,that´s an issue with most main characters in games,silent or otherwise,even in quite a few RPG´s,being an errand boy is the main gameplay mechanic in tons of games,some of them just mask that better than others.

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#125 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="harry_james_pot"] Which is?

Stories with silent protagonists always turn the player into a glorified errand boy. Its supposed to immerse the player in the experience because "you are corvo" but it usually has the opposite effect because you just blindly do what you're told with no voice of your own. People just talk at you and you dont get attached to any of the characters. Dont get me wrong, I loved Dishonored. It was a fun game but the story was just flat and missed many good opportunities. Especially with the relationship between Corvo and Emily. I didn't care about any of the characters I was supposed to care about.

Well to be fair,that´s also an issue with most main characters in games,silent or otherwise,even in quite a few RPG´s,being an errand boy is the main gameplay mechanic in tons of games,some of them just mask that better than others.

Yea, I just dont think the silent protagonist works anymore. Its supposed to immerse the player but it always has the opposite effect on me.
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#126 Sagem28
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Still need to pick up Civ V.

I will one of these days.

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#127 MK-Professor
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84 @ metacritic confirmed

Davekeeh

still butthurt becasue the tlou get 8.0?

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#128 kozzy1234
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But but but PC gaming is dying :lol:

But but but PC gamers have no games! :lol:

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#129 kozzy1234
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Played a few hours so far good times, the game really has improved a ton since it first came out. These two expansions realy have added alot of "meat" to the game.

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#130 kozzy1234
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Yet another game I'd never play. Oh how I hate RTS, MMOs and Tower Defense. Which is a lot of PC exclusives.

immortality20

Nah there is TONS other games and genres dude.

Also Civilization is not ANY of those genres you mentioned.. it is TURNED BASED Strategy, not REAL TIME Strategy.

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#131 aroxx_ab
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Yeah strategy-games is good for PC, we all know that.

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#132 PAL360
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Impressive score!

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#133 uninspiredcup  Online
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1.5 more betteryer than last of us. Pc wins again. woop woop.

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#134 II_Seraphim_II
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I gotta get this. Im not a huge civilization fan, but I bought Civ 5 when it was on sale and its easily become one of my favorite games. Its truly a masterful game. I already have the first expansion, gotta get this beast next :)
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#135 jhonMalcovich
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But nobody play this kind of genre anymore

 

and Metacritic says otherwise

hippiesanta

Civ5 is the 3d most played game on Steam. This kind of genre is immensely popular since always.

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#136 xsubtownerx
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Another great expansion to another great game. Im liking 5 more than 4 now that Ive finally bought the gameIantheone
Really? It's good don't get me wrong, but you have to admit the game mechanics for 4 are by far superior.
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#137 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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Ridiculous, whole point above the metacritic aswell... just another small content expansion like the previous one.
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Ridiculous, whole point above the metacritic aswell... just another small content expansion like the previous one.MBirdy88

 

By "small" you mean "at least 4 times more content than Last Of us".

 

And 1.5 more betterer.

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#139 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Ehhh never cared for the civ games

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lol Sean post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jFLHDWoPCU&feature=player_detailpage#t=37s

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#140 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

84 @ metacritic confirmed

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still butthurt becasue the tlou get 8.0?

Doctors said its so bad its now inoperable. Hes got terminal Metacriticitis, where he has to say metacritic every 4th post, turn the light on and off 8 times and open and close each door in his house twice otherwise his beard will fall off :(
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#141 adamosmaki
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Expansion dosen't count. Seriously, that's the rules. I think.

It's difficult for me to get into Civ 5. I just dont spend the required time to learn everything. I'm a noob at it.

15strong
actually civ 5 is the easiest of the series to get into. Just start with a small map and play against 4-5 civs. After a couple of matches you will be able to master most of the game
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Ridiculous, whole point above the metacritic aswell... just another small content expansion like the previous one.uninspiredcup

 

By "small" you mean "at least 4 times more content than Last Of us".

 

And 1.5 more betterer.

And how do you measure that exactly? if its anything like Gods and Kings ... no... its a damn feature addon to the normal game that effects very little. as far ive read on it, instead of religeon it focuses on culture. WOW amaizng! Why can't they do one £20 expansion that improves culture, econ, war and religeon and stop milking us with this small crap.
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#143 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Ridiculous, whole point above the metacritic aswell... just another small content expansion like the previous one.MBirdy88

 

By "small" you mean "at least 4 times more content than Last Of us".

 

And 1.5 more betterer.

And how do you measure that exactly? if its anything like Gods and Kings ... no... its a damn feature addon to the normal game that effects very little. as far ive read on it, instead of religeon it focuses on culture. WOW amaizng! Why can't they do one £20 expansion that improves culture, econ, war and religeon and stop milking us with this small crap.

I thought G&K had a huge impact on gameplay, have to be honest I loved it! Having said that its pricey as hell ...
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

 

By "small" you mean "at least 4 times more content than Last Of us".

 

And 1.5 more betterer.

blue_hazy_basic

And how do you measure that exactly? if its anything like Gods and Kings ... no... its a damn feature addon to the normal game that effects very little. as far ive read on it, instead of religeon it focuses on culture. WOW amaizng! Why can't they do one £20 expansion that improves culture, econ, war and religeon and stop milking us with this small crap.

I thought G&K had a huge impact on gameplay, have to be honest I loved it! Having said that its pricey as hell ...

i saved $3 with a steam pre-order. :o

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#145 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Another TPS that i couldnt care less about, let me know when PC gets a game that has a story to care about and not a TPS

harry_james_pot

Want a story? Read a book, read a comic, read the Bible, watch a movie, watch a TV show, watch a mini-series...

You're in one of the WORST media entertainment mediums for storytelling. Period.

Yes games can tell great stories but games with a worth while tale, good charactres, and a good plot, make up about 1% of all video games ever made. You're in the wrong medium and it's laughable that you believe this is a valid reason to NOT play a video game.

You can claim "but it's my opinion" but the only person you're fooling is yourself.

As someone who believes that stories are a very important aspect of games, I gotta disagree. Adventure games are a whole genre that focuses on stories, and there are tons of them out there with fantastic stories. And aside from the adventure genre, there are still lots and lots of games with great stories that came out recently. Bioshock Infinite, Metro, LA Noire, The Walking Dead, Dishonored, etc.. Oh and I even forgot about RPGs, another genre that tells great stories. That "1%" you mentioned applies to the amount of games that has story quality that can compare to books or movies, and I completely agree on that. But we don't really have to compare it like this, It doesn't have to reach that level to be considered a good story.

Mainstream movies maybe. :P

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#146 faizan_faizan
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9.5 > 8.0 :lol:
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#147 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Ridiculous, whole point above the metacritic aswell... just another small content expansion like the previous one.MBirdy88

 

By "small" you mean "at least 4 times more content than Last Of us".

 

And 1.5 more betterer.

And how do you measure that exactly? if its anything like Gods and Kings ... no... its a damn feature addon to the normal game that effects very little. as far ive read on it, instead of religeon it focuses on culture. WOW amaizng! Why can't they do one £20 expansion that improves culture, econ, war and religeon and stop milking us with this small crap.

They actually do alter gameplay and enhance gameplay . Add that more maps more units more civilizations and a couple of scenarios alot of bug fixes and both G&K and from the looks of it this one as well add alot to the base game ( honestly play vanilla Civ V and then with G&K and tell there isnt a substantial difference ) Of course if this actually worth 30euros i doubt it ( just like G&K didnt worth that much thats why i bought it when it dropped to 12euros ) so yes it adds a lot to the game but is a bit more expensive than it should be imo ( at most 15-20euros would be good )

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i saved $3 with a steam pre-order. :o

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#149 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] And how do you measure that exactly? if its anything like Gods and Kings ... no... its a damn feature addon to the normal game that effects very little. as far ive read on it, instead of religeon it focuses on culture. WOW amaizng! Why can't they do one £20 expansion that improves culture, econ, war and religeon and stop milking us with this small crap.CaseyWegner

I thought G&K had a huge impact on gameplay, have to be honest I loved it! Having said that its pricey as hell ...

i saved $3 with a steam pre-order. :o

I preordered it for 13.50 GBP on green man gaming. 

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#150 RyuRanVII
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I can't wait to get this expansion. Now Civilization V is the definitive Civ game!