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#1 psychobrew
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.194021&cm_sp=HomepageTop-_-DIYbundle-_-http%3a%2f%2fpromotions.newegg.com%2fNEPro%2fDreamSystem%2f620x130.jpg

(Gamespot won't take the link)

After mail in rebates, total price is $295 for a computer with more power than any console. Even by upgrading the graphics card to play Crysis at high resolutions and details, it's still cheaper than a PS3. How are consoles still selling?

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Call me lazy, but I really don't want to fiddle around with all those parts just to build a gaming PC. I just stick with the good ole consoles:)
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#3 789shadow
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Sure it's possible, but to build a good one, you'd have to have an amazing knowledge of hardware, plus you'd have an exhaustive search on your hands trying to find those parts cheap enough. So, for all appearances, the PS3 is still cheaper.

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#4 psychobrew
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Sure it's possible, but to build a good one, you'd have to have an amazing knowledge of hardware, plus you'd have an exhaustive search on your hands trying to find those parts cheap enough. So, for all appearances, the PS3 is still cheaper.

789shadow
Newegg put it all together. No research involved. Just the pure bliss of system building.
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#5 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Sure it's possible, but to build a good one, you'd have to have an amazing knowledge of hardware, plus you'd have an exhaustive search on your hands trying to find those parts cheap enough. So, for all appearances, the PS3 is still cheaper.

psychobrew

Newegg put it all together. No research involved. Just the pure bliss of system building.

What you would describe as bliss, almost everyone else would describe as time-consuming and frustrating.

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#6 killab2oo5
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You forgot an OS,PSU, and KB+M.
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#7 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Some people don't like or are very aware on how to build computers. Consoles cut out the need for any hassle that PCs pose, as such many people prefer console gaming because it's a lot simpler. You simply stick in the disc and it runs, no need to fiddle around with settings or anything. It works on a simpler level and a lot of people like it that way.
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#8 psychobrew
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You forgot an OS,PSU, and KB+M.killab2oo5
PSU comes with the case, OS and KB+M comes from your old PC.
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]You forgot an OS,PSU, and KB+M.psychobrew
PSU comes with the case, OS and KB+M comes from your old PC.

It's an off-brand PSU? >.> I wouldn't get a off-brand PSU...as they tend to be crap. And what if the person buying the PC didn't have a previous PC so they can't use their old KB+M? Or their previous PC was pre-built and they have no copy of an OS?
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#10 psychobrew
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Didn't you guys have any hobbies when you were younger (or have any now)? You know, like building an RC car, model airplane, model car, or even tinker toys or legos....It's the same thing. You apreciate what you have so much more when you build it yourself.

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#11 Foolz3h
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Sure it's possible, but to build a good one, you'd have to have an amazing knowledge of hardware, plus you'd have an exhaustive search on your hands trying to find those parts cheap enough. So, for all appearances, the PS3 is still cheaper.

psychobrew

Newegg put it all together. No research involved. Just the pure bliss of system building.

Sounds like parts selecting and not system building if you don't put it together. :P

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#12 789shadow
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Didn't you guys have any hobbies when you were younger (or have any now)? You know, like building an RC car, model airplane, model car, or even tinker toys or legos....It's the same thing. You apreciate what you have so much more when you build it yourself.

psychobrew

Yes, but those came dissasembled in a box. You have to find your PC parts cheap enough.

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[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]You forgot an OS,PSU, and KB+M.killab2oo5
PSU comes with the case, OS and KB+M comes from your old PC.

It's an off-brand PSU? >.> I wouldn't get a off-brand PSU...as they tend to be crap. And what if the person buying the PC didn't have a previous PC so they can't use their old KB+M? Or their previous PC was pre-built and they have no copy of an OS?

One thing I hate about these arguements are people saying 'use your old hard drive, keyboard, and mouse". If you want a fair comparison, for the PC side, you have to get everything new, since that's what a console comes with.

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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="psychobrew"] PSU comes with the case, OS and KB+M comes from your old PC.Legendaryscmt

It's an off-brand PSU? >.> I wouldn't get a off-brand PSU...as they tend to be crap. And what if the person buying the PC didn't have a previous PC so they can't use their old KB+M? Or their previous PC was pre-built and they have no copy of an OS?

One thing I hate about these arguements are people saying 'use your old hard drive, keyboard, and mouse". If you want a fair comparison, for the PC side, you have to get everything new, since that's what a console comes with.

No, consoles don't give you the option of bringing parts to your next system. That can't be held against PC building.
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#15 Jackboot343
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Except the PS3 is more futureproof than this PC.

And you forgot the disc drive and cooling, in addition to what other users are saying.

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#16 psychobrew
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[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]You forgot an OS,PSU, and KB+M.killab2oo5
PSU comes with the case, OS and KB+M comes from your old PC.

It's an off-brand PSU? >.> I wouldn't get a off-brand PSU...as they tend to be crap. And what if the person buying the PC didn't have a previous PC so they can't use their old KB+M? Or their previous PC was pre-built and they have no copy of an OS?

It's a $295 PC, it's OK. Even with a cheap power suply, it will be more reliable than the 360. Do you really think MS and Sony put $120 PSU's in their consoles?
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#17 psychobrew
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

Didn't you guys have any hobbies when you were younger (or have any now)? You know, like building an RC car, model airplane, model car, or even tinker toys or legos....It's the same thing. You apreciate what you have so much more when you build it yourself.

Yes, but those came dissasembled in a box. You have to find your PC parts cheap enough.

Newegg basically put all the parts you need in a box, and is selling them for $295.
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#18 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

Didn't you guys have any hobbies when you were younger (or have any now)? You know, like building an RC car, model airplane, model car, or even tinker toys or legos....It's the same thing. You apreciate what you have so much more when you build it yourself.

psychobrew

Yes, but those came dissasembled in a box. You have to find your PC parts cheap enough.

Newegg basically put all the parts you need in a box, and is selling them for $295.

Even if you did do that, most people wouldn't know how to assemble it.

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#19 Mark36111
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Add $100 for an OS and you're up to the full price of a PS3. At this point, you have to ask yourself whether you'd rather spend your money on a PC that can't even play today's games at the settings they're meant to be, and certainly won't be able to in the future, or would you rather buy a console that should remain relevant for the next 3-4 years at least, and won't require any additional hardware costs for this duration. Given this choice, I'd take the PS3. The better option might be to spend a couple hundred more on parts, and build a pc that isn't already completely obsolete.
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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"] It's an off-brand PSU? >.> I wouldn't get a off-brand PSU...as they tend to be crap. And what if the person buying the PC didn't have a previous PC so they can't use their old KB+M? Or their previous PC was pre-built and they have no copy of an OS?psychobrew

One thing I hate about these arguements are people saying 'use your old hard drive, keyboard, and mouse". If you want a fair comparison, for the PC side, you have to get everything new, since that's what a console comes with.

No, consoles don't give you the option of bringing parts to your next system. That can't be held against PC building.

So then what if a person wants to buy a gaming PC that is on par with a 360, but doesn't have a previous computer to borrow parts from? Because that's the whole point, is that not everyone can transfer parts from an old PC to a new one.

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#21 Puckhog04
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PC parts have been very cheap for a long time now. Almost always have been fairly cheap in terms of price. Now more so than ever though.

People can deny it all they want. Course these are the same people that are either 1. Too Lazy to put together a gaming PC that takes very little time or 2. Don't realize just how easy it is to put together a gaming PC.

My PC was about $650 and I went all out (quite awhile ago). Let people think what they want though.

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#22 ktseymour
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I built my PS3 from an old diaper and a crack pipe, and I still say it smokes and computer and kicks the crap out of that NewEgg deal:P

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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

Sure it's possible, but to build a good one, you'd have to have an amazing knowledge of hardware, plus you'd have an exhaustive search on your hands trying to find those parts cheap enough. So, for all appearances, the PS3 is still cheaper.

Newegg put it all together. No research involved. Just the pure bliss of system building.

What you would describe as bliss, almost everyone else would describe as time-consuming and frustrating.

But after the frustration and time spent comes the amazing feeling of making something from....slightly less something. Kinda like legos :D
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#24 aflakian
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A 9500 GT? Get real.

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#25 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I would take a computer thats $800 and still say its cheaper than the PS3.. One of my biggest annoyances with my PS3 (and consoles in general) is the fact that even after 6 months a game may still be $50 or more, and a used version not much less.. While as a PC game I was able to get games only a few months old for $30 brand new like Dawn of War 2 and FEAR 2.
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#26 psychobrew
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[QUOTE="Jackboot343"]

Except the PS3 is more futureproof than this PC.

And you forgot the disc drive and cooling, in addition to what other users are saying.

Is it? The PS3 hardware is already outdated. If you read the comments for the CPU, you'd find that it comes with cooling.
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Ewww...that PC is running a 9500 GT, which is pretty much crap for current games unless you plan on running them on low.

Other than that, it's not a bad package. Maybe downgrade the HDD to 320 GB or lower and use the savings to finance the purchase of a decent GPU (HD4850, 9800GTX+) and you'll have yourself a pretty capable PC.

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#28 psychobrew
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I would take a computer thats $800 and still say its cheaper than the PS3.. One of my biggest annoyances with my PS3 (and consoles in general) is the fact that even after 6 months a game may still be $50 or more, and a used version not much less.. While as a PC game I was able to get games only a few months old for $30 brand new like Dawn of War 2 and FEAR 2.sSubZerOo
Not only that, but the free mods, downloads, map packs, and don't forget about the free clothes for your characters too.
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#29 psychobrew
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Ewww...that PC is running a 9500 GT, which is pretty much crap for current games unless you plan on running them on low.

It's still a more capable than what's in the PS3 and 360.
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#30 ReaperV7
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the newegg customer reviews for each of those items are abysmal.

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#31 Jackboot343
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[QUOTE="Jackboot343"]

Except the PS3 is more futureproof than this PC.

And you forgot the disc drive and cooling, in addition to what other users are saying.

psychobrew

Is it? The PS3 hardware is already outdated. If you read the comments for the CPU, you'd find that it comes with cooling.

1 80MM steel case fan isn't going to suffice.

And I'm pretty sure I'd upgrade that PC way before I'd purchase a PS4.

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You forgot an OS,PSU, and KB+M.killab2oo5
ownage approved /thread

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Ewww...that PC is running a 9500 GT, which is pretty much crap for current games unless you plan on running them on low.

psychobrew

It's still a more capable than what's in the PS3 and 360.

no......the 9500gt can't even compete with a 6800XT or 7600gt while the RSX is almost equal to the 7800GTX.

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[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Ewww...that PC is running a 9500 GT, which is pretty much crap for current games unless you plan on running them on low.

ttobba07

It's still a more capable than what's in the PS3 and 360.

no......the 9500gt can't even compete with a 6800XT or 7600gt while the RSX is almost equal to the 7800GTX.

Not to mention the fact that the Xenos is equivalent to an X1800, which also outclasses the 9500GT.
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There are people out there to whom a $2000 PC comes cheaper than a $200 Xbox360...Mark my words.
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[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

Sure it's possible, but to build a good one, you'd have to have an amazing knowledge of hardware, plus you'd have an exhaustive search on your hands trying to find those parts cheap enough. So, for all appearances, the PS3 is still cheaper.

789shadow

Newegg put it all together. No research involved. Just the pure bliss of system building.

What you would describe as bliss, almost everyone else would describe as time-consuming and frustrating.

One day around three or four years ago I literally took 10 minutes to read a computer building tutorial, and maybe another 10 to research the compatibility of motherboards, processors and ram. A few days later after ordering from Newegg I got my parts, built it in about 20 minutes, and booted Windows.

Time consuming as all hell though....Definitely frustrating too.


No wait, all it took was common knowledge like how to use a screw driver!

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Put in an HD 4770 ($30 more) instead of that 9500 GT and it'll be better than the PS3. The 9500 GT is ass.
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[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

It's an off-brand PSU? >.> I wouldn't get a off-brand PSU...as they tend to be crap. And what if the person buying the PC didn't have a previous PC so they can't use their old KB+M? Or their previous PC was pre-built and they have no copy of an OS?killab2oo5

One thing I hate about these arguements are people saying 'use your old hard drive, keyboard, and mouse". If you want a fair comparison, for the PC side, you have to get everything new, since that's what a console comes with.

No, consoles don't give you the option of bringing parts to your next system. That can't be held against PC building.

What if your PC uses SATA vs. IDE or AGP 8X vs. PCI-E 18x?
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Put in an HD 4770 ($30 more) instead of that 9500 GT and it'll be better than the PS3. The 9500 GT is ass.Einhanderkiller
That CPU would bottleneck that system to a point where it wouldn't be able to run Crysis on lowest setting at an extremely lowresolution at a decent framerate.

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#40 psychobrew
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[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Ewww...that PC is running a 9500 GT, which is pretty much crap for current games unless you plan on running them on low.

ttobba07

It's still a more capable than what's in the PS3 and 360.

no......the 9500gt can't even compete with a 6800XT or 7600gt while the RSX is almost equal to the 7800GTX.

Umm, the 9500 GT replaced the 8600 GT (and is faster).

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#41 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"] Newegg put it all together. No research involved. Just the pure bliss of system building.Mr_Nordquist

What you would describe as bliss, almost everyone else would describe as time-consuming and frustrating.

One day around three or four years ago I literally took 10 minutes to read a computer building tutorial, and maybe another 10 to research the compatibility of motherboards, processors and ram. A few days later after ordering from Newegg I got my parts, built it in about 20 minutes, and booted Windows.

Time consuming as all hell though....Definitely frustrating too.


No wait, all it took was common knowledge like how to use a screw driver!

Then there are those of us who have actually built a PC and have experience using low-quality parts and having incompatibility issues.

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#42 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

[QUOTE="ttobba07"]

It's still a more capable than what's in the PS3 and 360.psychobrew

no......the 9500gt can't even compete with a 6800XT or 7600gt while the RSX is almost equal to the 7800GTX.

Umm, the 9500 GT replaced the 8600 GT (and is faster).

The 9500 GT is a mid-range card that usually comes with a "Budget Gaming PC" deal from HP, Dell, or any other computer manufacterer. It's not a powerful card and really should not be used for serious gaming.
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#43 psychobrew
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[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

One thing I hate about these arguements are people saying 'use your old hard drive, keyboard, and mouse". If you want a fair comparison, for the PC side, you have to get everything new, since that's what a console comes with.

Johnny-n-Roger

No, consoles don't give you the option of bringing parts to your next system. That can't be held against PC building.

What if your PC uses SATA vs. IDE or AGP 8X vs. PCI-E 18x?

You could either buy a $10 adapter or buy a new $20 optical drive. I don't understand why you're bringing AGP and PCIe in to this since it's a non issue for this discussion.

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#44 psychobrew
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="psychobrew"]

[QUOTE="ttobba07"]

no......the 9500gt can't even compete with a 6800XT or 7600gt while the RSX is almost equal to the 7800GTX.

Umm, the 9500 GT replaced the 8600 GT (and is faster).

The 9500 GT is a mid-range card that usually comes with a "Budget Gaming PC" deal from HP, Dell, or any other computer manufacterer. It's not a powerful card and really should not be used for serious gaming.

Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that the 9500 GT is an upgrade to the 8600 GT. Besides, as someone already mentioned, just spend an extra $30 to upgrade to an HD 4770.
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#45 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="psychobrew"]

No, consoles don't give you the option of bringing parts to your next system. That can't be held against PC building.

What if your PC uses SATA vs. IDE or AGP 8X vs. PCI-E 18x?

You could either buy a $10 adapter or buy a new $20 optical drive. I don't understand why you're bringing AGP and PCIe in to this since it's a non issue for this discussion.

Fair enough, but the rig you've described could not play Crysis or Empire: Total War at even minimal settings at a consistent framerate.
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#46 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="psychobrew"]

Umm, the 9500 GT replaced the 8600 GT (and is faster).

psychobrew

The 9500 GT is a mid-range card that usually comes with a "Budget Gaming PC" deal from HP, Dell, or any other computer manufacterer. It's not a powerful card and really should not be used for serious gaming.

Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that the 9500 GT is an upgrade to the 8600 GT. Besides, as someone already mentioned, just spend an extra $30 to upgrade to an HD 4770.

Why bother? You'd still be bottlenecked by the laughable CPU.

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#47 Mr_Nordquist
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[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

What you would describe as bliss, almost everyone else would describe as time-consuming and frustrating.

Johnny-n-Roger

One day around three or four years ago I literally took 10 minutes to read a computer building tutorial, and maybe another 10 to research the compatibility of motherboards, processors and ram. A few days later after ordering from Newegg I got my parts, built it in about 20 minutes, and booted Windows.

Time consuming as all hell though....Definitely frustrating too.


No wait, all it took was common knowledge like how to use a screw driver!

Then there are those of us who have actually built a PC and have experience using low-quality parts and having incompatibility issues.

You're right. I don't use low quality parts, but I've used Newegg since I began which has a very nice review system. Incompatibility has never been an issue......well, once, but that was for a friend's computer that I built, but Newegg replaced the ram pretty quickly.

Seriously though. Building a PC is not rocket science. I'm glad to have the knowledge of how to build one just because it's lead to me building computers for friends, and having LAN parties, and such. Plus, no proprietary hardware/software that comes from store bought PC's. Nice to have a computer that isn't bogged down by applications the first time you boot it.

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Unfortunately, I don't know how to build a PC.:( Are there any manuals on how to build a PC, and how difficult is it?
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#49 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

One day around three or four years ago I literally took 10 minutes to read a computer building tutorial, and maybe another 10 to research the compatibility of motherboards, processors and ram. A few days later after ordering from Newegg I got my parts, built it in about 20 minutes, and booted Windows.

Time consuming as all hell though....Definitely frustrating too.


No wait, all it took was common knowledge like how to use a screw driver!

Mr_Nordquist

Then there are those of us who have actually built a PC and have experience using low-quality parts and having incompatibility issues.

You're right. I don't use low quality parts, but I've used Newegg since I began which has a very nice review system. Incompatibility has never been an issue......well, once, but that was for a friend's computer that I built, but Newegg replaced the ram pretty quickly.

Seriously though. Building a PC is not rocket science. I'm glad to have the knowledge of how to build one just because it's lead to me building computers for friends, and having LAN parties, and such. Plus, no proprietary hardware/software that comes from store bought PC's. Nice to have a computer that isn't bogged down by applications the first time you boot it.

Hah, the last computer I bought from HP had at least 10 hp specific applications that would boot on start-up. None of them were worth a **** and were basically the manufacterer's way of letting you know, "yeah buddy, you have an HP system".

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#50 ktseymour
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The RSX is actually a tweaked 7800, and has more in common with the 7900.