PC is cheaper than PS3

scrap that 9500gt add another $30 and get a 4830 or 4770 also scrap that psu add another $20 and get a brand one even if its with less watts add $10 for keyboard+mouse ( since people act like they cant use k+m from their old pc) download windows 7 rc1 from microsofts site for free for OS and you got yourself a decent $400gaming pc that ouutclasses consoles in performance and is an all around usefull

Except the PS3 is more futureproof than this PC.

And you forgot the disc drive and cooling, in addition to what other users are saying.

Jackboot343

Add $100 for an OS and you're up to the full price of a PS3. At this point, you have to ask yourself whether you'd rather spend your money on a PC that can't even play today's games at the settings they're meant to be, and certainly won't be able to in the future, or would you rather buy a console that should remain relevant for the next 3-4 years at least, and won't require any additional hardware costs for this duration. Given this choice, I'd take the PS3. The better option might be to spend a couple hundred more on parts, and build a pc that isn't already completely obsolete.Mark36111

It will meet all the recommended requirements of todays pc games

It will play games at settings much higher than what the ps3 can

It will continue to play new pc games for the next 4 perhaps even 5 years without upgrading

As time goes by ps3 will struggle more and more with pc multiplat games

...please define how this pc is nearly obsolete? Do you know anything about pc gaming. Something is only obsolete when it can no longer be used or is no longer supported NOT when a newer version simply comes out.

Why do many of you consolites act as if you can only game on a pc if you're hitting max settings and as soon as you don't you have to upgrade? There is a difference to being a pc gamer and being an enthusiast!

[QUOTE="psychobrew"] It's still a more capable than what's in the PS3 and 360.LordQuorthon

..and at the moment that progression of hardware is quite slow compared to how it has moved in the past. My last pc, a P4 3.0 GHz, 9800 Pro ran games for 5 nearly 6 years lol easily the requirement of a console.

Better yet, my current pc a Q6600, 2gb pc-6400 and 8800GTS maxes nearly every game out, runs games at much higher setting than consoles do and will do for the remainder of this generation and it will still be (if current trends are anything to go on) running games in another 3 years atleast!

Didn't you guys have any hobbies when you were younger (or have any now)? You know, like building an RC car, model airplane, model car, or even tinker toys or legos....It's the same thing. You apreciate what you have so much more when you build it yourself.

psychobrew

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

Didn't you guys have any hobbies when you were younger (or have any now)? You know, like building an RC car, model airplane, model car, or even tinker toys or legos....It's the same thing. You apreciate what you have so much more when you build it yourself.

Tasman_basic

Well, I'm upgrading from a laptop and that certainly is'nt cheap... I expect to go down a full 2 grand, getting an I7 (the 920 version in fact) with a GTX275, and peripherals + OS.

Cheap? Not at all. Awesome? Well, I'll run Crysis better than the PC that TC put together.

Now try finding me the European equivalent of that.

Well, I'm upgrading from a laptop and that certainly is'nt cheap... I expect to go down a full 2 grand, getting an I7 (the 920 version in fact) with a GTX275, and peripherals + OS.

Cheap? Not at all. Awesome? Well, I'll run Crysis better than the PC that TC put together.

Filthybastrd

Call me lazy, but I really don't want to fiddle around with all those parts just to build a gaming PC. I just stick with the good ole consoles:)clubsammich91

Sure it's possible, but to build a good one, you'd have to have an amazing knowledge of hardware, plus you'd have an exhaustive search on your hands trying to find those parts cheap enough. So, for all appearances, the PS3 is still cheaper.

789shadow

Now try finding me the European equivalent of that.

Hexagon_777

REgaurdless of this, I find it hilarious now that the majority of nay sayers in this thread, have stoppedbashing the price and jump straight to conveniance :lol: jesus... talk about lack of any real ammo, you can litterally go on a hardware forum, ask whats the best for your budget, takes less than an hour. Watch a few vids 10-20 mins, put the thing togetther at a slow pace 1-2 hours (pending on experiance, its not complicated, just most people do it slowly thier first time) and your done. Are you all that lazy. seriously. youd rather go into dell and pay £300+ more for something worse? GOOD MONEY MANAGEMENT. go buy an alienware while your at it. pathetic.

how much does a bluray drive run for?

Not saying that it will end up being more expensive i just think that to be fair you should include that. Also you would thus need a good sound card for similar functionailty to a ps3.

how much does a bluray drive run for?

Not saying that it will end up being more expensive i just think that to be fair you should include that. Also you would thus need a good sound card for similar functionailty to a ps3.

adizorz

how much does a bluray drive run for?

Not saying that it will end up being more expensive i just think that to be fair you should include that. Also you would thus need a good sound card for similar functionailty to a ps3.

adizorz

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Well, I'm upgrading from a laptop and that certainly is'nt cheap... I expect to go down a full 2 grand, getting an I7 (the 920 version in fact) with a GTX275, and peripherals + OS.

Cheap? Not at all. Awesome? Well, I'll run Crysis better than the PC that TC put together.

BoloTheGreat

[QUOTE="adizorz"]

how much does a bluray drive run for?

Not saying that it will end up being more expensive i just think that to be fair you should include that. Also you would thus need a good sound card for similar functionailty to a ps3.

adamosmaki

ok last time i check sound cards completely dominate on board 'solutions', they give you the functionality but they sound like garbage.

and blu-ray is relevant so i can watch bluray movies...

and don't you think that eventually games will be shipped on blu-rays?

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="adizorz"]

how much does a bluray drive run for?

Not saying that it will end up being more expensive i just think that to be fair you should include that. Also you would thus need a good sound card for similar functionailty to a ps3.

adizorz

ok last time i check sound cards completely dominate on board 'solutions', they give you the functionality but they sound like garbage.

and blu-ray is relevant so i can watch bluray movies...

and don't you think that eventually games will be shipped on blu-rays?

[QUOTE="adizorz"]

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"] really cheap only $75 and blu-ray isnt needed for games so i dont see howw is relevant and sound card just like 99% of times is on the m/b and usually are 7.1 PC360Wii

ok last time i check sound cards completely dominate on board 'solutions', they give you the functionality but they sound like garbage.

and blu-ray is relevant so i can watch bluray movies...

and don't you think that eventually games will be shipped on blu-rays?

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="adizorz"]

ok last time i check sound cards completely dominate on board 'solutions', they give you the functionality but they sound like garbage.

and blu-ray is relevant so i can watch bluray movies...

and don't you think that eventually games will be shipped on blu-rays?

adamosmaki

sound i a subjective thing, you can't check the specs as you can with a graphics card. Mother board manufacturers put it on there but they know that review sites are going to benchmark them against other motherboards, and having a good onboard sound relies on the cpu thus more load on the cpu which means worse benchmarks. They do it to add value compared to other motherboards but its the standard now and it is garbage.

Its like buying an ipod and using the headphons that come with it. Apple do it because they have to, they know that listening through those headphones are garbage but they have to put it in their and cheaply other wise they won't get as many sales.

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Well, I'm upgrading from a laptop and that certainly is'nt cheap... I expect to go down a full 2 grand, getting an I7 (the 920 version in fact) with a GTX275, and peripherals + OS.

Cheap? Not at all. Awesome? Well, I'll run Crysis better than the PC that TC put together.

-GeordiLaForge-

Computers (and consoles) cost nearly twice as much in Denmark as in US I believe.. Vista Home Premium 64 alone is close to 200 bucks.

And I have been considering 2 * 4770 Xfire since that apparently comes close to GTX280!! Only thing putting me off is the Idle power usage and the hassle of Xfire/sli vs single card setups.

you know what ,i know exactly how to build a pc . in a matter of fact 2 weeks ago i make some research to build a budget gaming rig, and i was please to see how cost efficient pc are now, but my plan abort, why because the only game motivating my plan was empire total war and crysis. Its not enough, so i decide to wait a little .so for me, pc gaming its not a matter of cash or know how , its a software issue.legol1

Well, all the multiplats would not only be cheaper, but also better on the PC. If you have software issues, you're not looking hard enough IMO.

you know what ,i know exactly how to build a pc . in a matter of fact 2 weeks ago i make some research to build a budget gaming rig, and i was please to see how cost efficient pc are now, but my plan abort, why because the only game motivating my plan was empire total war and crysis. Its not enough, so i decide to wait a little .so for me, pc gaming its not a matter of cash or know how , its a software issue.legol1

[QUOTE="legol1"]you know what ,i know exactly how to build a pc . in a matter of fact 2 weeks ago i make some research to build a budget gaming rig, and i was please to see how cost efficient pc are now, but my plan abort, why because the only game motivating my plan was empire total war and crysis. Its not enough, so i decide to wait a little .so for me, pc gaming its not a matter of cash or know how , its a software issue.Filthybastrd

Well, all the multiplats would not only be cheaper, but also better on the PC. If you have software issues, you're not looking hard enough IMO.

NOT when you have to UPGRADE when a new game comes out. 8)

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="legol1"]you know what ,i know exactly how to build a pc . in a matter of fact 2 weeks ago i make some research to build a budget gaming rig, and i was please to see how cost efficient pc are now, but my plan abort, why because the only game motivating my plan was empire total war and crysis. Its not enough, so i decide to wait a little .so for me, pc gaming its not a matter of cash or know how , its a software issue.legol1

Well, all the multiplats would not only be cheaper, but also better on the PC. If you have software issues, you're not looking hard enough IMO.

Granted a PC makes much less sense if you're a ps360 owner...

I'm sort if in the opposite position where getting a 360 seems like throwing good money at a bad deal.

Already played some of the exclusives when I had an Elite and I'd be getting a new box solely for Gears 2.. Would love to play it but not enough to get another console.

NOT when you have to UPGRADE when a new game comes out. 8)

dr_jashugan

[QUOTE="dr_jashugan"]

NOT when you have to UPGRADE when a new game comes out. 8)

adamosmaki

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="dr_jashugan"]

NOT when you have to UPGRADE when a new game comes out. 8)

BoloTheGreat

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="dr_jashugan"]

NOT when you have to UPGRADE when a new game comes out. 8)

BoloTheGreat

GRID, CoH, STALKER:CS & WiC on HIGH with a 8800GT.... yeah probably.... playing Crysis at a respectable framerate 1680x1050 with 2AA, on HIGH is gonna weild you a WHOPPING!25fps on average, and Crysis on anything but HIGH settings looks like ****... lucky for me... I hate Crysis and just use it as a way to measure my systems POWA!

Except the PS3 is more futureproof than this PC.

And you forgot the disc drive and cooling, in addition to what other users are saying.

Jackboot343

Add $100 for an OS and you're up to the full price of a PS3. At this point, you have to ask yourself whether you'd rather spend your money on a PC that can't even play today's games at the settings they're meant to be, and certainly won't be able to in the future, or would you rather buy a console that should remain relevant for the next 3-4 years at least, and won't require any additional hardware costs for this duration. Given this choice, I'd take the PS3. The better option might be to spend a couple hundred more on parts, and build a pc that isn't already completely obsolete.Mark36111

Just the ain u have to go trough to find the best parts at the best price its not worth

plus what you buyt now for pc thats top notch tomorow is dull so you wasted money

a pc is not a console, its not made play when do you get it

Just the ain u have to go trough to find the best parts at the best price its not worth

plus what you buyt now for pc thats top notch tomorow is dull so you wasted money

a pc is not a console, its not made play when do you get it

SionPT

[QUOTE="Mark36111"]Add $100 for an OS and you're up to the full price of a PS3. At this point, you have to ask yourself whether you'd rather spend your money on a PC that can't even play today's games at the settings they're meant to be, and certainly won't be able to in the future, or would you rather buy a console that should remain relevant for the next 3-4 years at least, and won't require any additional hardware costs for this duration. Given this choice, I'd take the PS3. The better option might be to spend a couple hundred more on parts, and build a pc that isn't already completely obsolete.DAZZER7

It will meet all the recommended requirements of todays pc games

It will play games at settings much higher than what the ps3 can

It will continue to play new pc games for the next 4 perhaps even 5 years without upgrading

As time goes by ps3 will struggle more and more with pc multiplat games

...please define how this pc is nearly obsolete? Do you know anything about pc gaming. Something is only obsolete when it can no longer be used or is no longer supported NOT when a newer version simply comes out.

Why do many of you consolites act as if you can only game on a pc if you're hitting max settings and as soon as you don't you have to upgrade? There is a difference to being a pc gamer and being an enthusiast!

Maybe you're content with playing games at low settings. I'm not. If I'm going to play something, I'd like to have the best experience possible, or at least come relatively close. The rig in question is not capable of providing this. And please shove it with your "consolite" slurs. I'm building a new i7 system in the next few weeks, and actually just sold my PS3 on ebay to help fund it. Just because I don't toss away rationality and act as if a $400 computer outclasses all consoles doesn't mean I'm biased.

The original poster was simply wrong when he said that the 9500 gt could play Crysis at high resolution and high details. Posted below are benchmarks that show it cannot achieve playable framerates on high at even 1024x768 (if you want to run it at something like 1080p, forget it). Scroll down the following link and you'll see that it isn't capable of 30 fps on medium either at better resolutions (http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-9500-gt-review/8). Thus, on a decent monitor, you're forced to turn details down to low, at which point you lose any graphical advantage over console games.

And you seriously think this is going to be a capable gaming machine five years from now? Get out of here. You can't even say that for new high-end systems, much less this turd.

My brother spent £425 on his PS3 when it came out, I have yet to spend that much money on gaming orientated hardware this generation; yet this PC crushes every cross platform game that comes near it. On top of that it does very well in high end games such as Crysis and STALKER CS, getting them smooth on second to max settings which are well above what you get on consoles.

What do I mean by gaming orientated hardware?

£170 8800GT when they first came out, £62 for 8800GT off Ebay not long ago, total of £232.

Now I know what people are thinking, what about the cost of the rest of your PC? The GPU is the only gaming dedicated component in my PC; and even that has started to change in recent years. The rest of my hardware is beneficial to my day to day tasks, from folding@home to streaming HD content off the Internet. As a PC enthusiast I enjoy upgrading and maintaining my PC regardless of gaming, making the GPU my only gaming related cost.

As far as I'm concerned consoles are a bigger financial investment for less performance and functionality, not to my interest.

Some people don't like or are very aware on how to build computers. Consoles cut out the need for any hassle that PCs pose, as such many people prefer console gaming because it's a lot simpler. You simply stick in the disc and it runs, no need to fiddle around with settings or anything. It works on a simpler level and a lot of people like it that way.siLVURcross

I'M willing to build a custom computer when I have the "money".

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.194021&cm_sp=HomepageTop-_-DIYbundle-_-http%3a%2f%2fpromotions.newegg.com%2fNEPro%2fDreamSystem%2f620x130.jpg

(Gamespot won't take the link)

After mail in rebates, total price is $295 for a computer with more power than any console. Even by upgrading the graphics card to play Crysis at high resolutions and details, it's still cheaper than a PS3. How are consoles still selling?

psychobrew

Add those, and your over the price of the ps3. Topic fails hard.

Sure it's possible, but to build a good one, you'd have to have an amazing knowledge of hardware, plus you'd have an exhaustive search on your hands trying to find those parts cheap enough. So, for all appearances, the PS3 is still cheaper.

789shadow

[QUOTE="Dilrod"] um. you forgot a few MAJOR things.. operating system, keyboard, mouse, monitor.. etc.Vandalvideo

You don't get it do you? We are not talking about hardcore gamers. We are talking about gamers in general. In general a pc gamer will not hook up their pc to their tv, just because they can, doesn't mean they will.Dilrod

In general a console gamer would hook up their console to a TV and not a monitor, yet I do hear from time to time that they use this as a argument for not needing a HDTV.

That's SW for you.