PC people, whats with the keyboard?

Ive played games on my computer but, i dont get why you would like a keyboard over a controller. All it has is more buttons, its so clunky and its not made for gaming. A controller is. Now, some games like mmorpg's and rts's are better on a keyboard. But imo all other games arent. So whats witht the keyboard?

Customizable commands. Several console games dont even let you change the button layout on your controller. Thats completely unheard of in PC games.

Heres a simple clear advantage for FPS and keyboards: Most PC FPS games have the ability to lean left and right; most console FPS games dont even let you do that.

It has more control over a game and its more precise. Unless you use a $10 mouse and keyboard...then its like torture. It might take awhile to get used to, but it does have these advantages

Functions perfectly for a variety of games.
Responsive.
Allows a huge array of input options.
Plenty of customization.
Works perfectly in tandem with a mouse.

Don't like it, buy a gaming peripheral as a replacement for gaming.

Shooters are better on the keyboard/mouse I agree that some genres aren't but not a lot. Maybe you are not used to gaming on itDiviniuz

It's not clunky at all the WASD button layout works perfectly combined the greatness of the mouse. It's very easy to control.

IMO, gamepads are better for fighting games/racing/platform games and the like whereas Keyboard&Mouse are better for shooters/real-time strategy/simulators

[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]Shooters are better on the keyboard/mouse I agree that some genres aren't but not a lot. Maybe you are not used to gaming on itkipohippo021

Actually FPS were specifically designed for the keyboard. Not the controller was designed for fps. lol

Customizable commands. Several console games dont even let you change the button layout on your controller. Thats completely unheard of in PC games.

Heres a simple clear advantage for FPS and keyboards: Most PC FPS games have the ability to lean left and right; most console FPS games dont even let you do that.

XaosII

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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]Shooters are better on the keyboard/mouse I agree that some genres aren't but not a lot. Maybe you are not used to gaming on itedinsftw

Actually FPS were specifically designed for the keyboard. Not the controller was designed for fps. lol

I don't mind it for strategy games and the like but I really dislike using WASD for movement, it's horrible when used to an analogue stick imo. [QUOTE="XaosII"]

Customizable commands. Several console games dont even let you change the button layout on your controller. Thats completely unheard of in PC games.

Heres a simple clear advantage for FPS and keyboards: Most PC FPS games have the ability to lean left and right; most console FPS games dont even let you do that.

locopatho

No...just go away, you dont like PC or people telling you the limits of hardware of consoles...we get.

It's not clunky at all the WASD button layout works perfectly combined the greatness of the mouse. It's very easy to control.

Dahaka-UK

IMO, gamepads are better for fighting games/racing/platform games and the like whereas Keyboard&Mouse are better for shooters/real-time strategy/simulators

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Some games just feel a lot easier to use. Using a mouse to aim in a shooter feels a whole lot less clunkier than it does with a controller.

That's nothing to do with the keyboard tho. locopatho

Sure it can be done on a controller. But the limited # of buttons often means that the number of actions also has to be limited often forgoing features like leaning.

Im going to assumone various people's arguments after looking at that picture will be "But who the heck needs all those buttons?" or "who can memorize all that?" I dont know, nor do i care. But its nice to have the option, isnt it? Options, choices, customizstion.... Thats just something you dont really find in consoles.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]I don't mind it for strategy games and the like but I really dislike using WASD for movement, it's horrible when used to an analogue stick imo. [QUOTE="XaosII"]

Customizable commands. Several console games dont even let you change the button layout on your controller. Thats completely unheard of in PC games.

Heres a simple clear advantage for FPS and keyboards: Most PC FPS games have the ability to lean left and right; most console FPS games dont even let you do that.

edinsftw

No...just go away, you dont like PC or people telling you the limits of hardware of consoles...we get.

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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"] Explain. Controllers are specially made for those types of games. A keyboard was originally designed for ... typing. On consoles its more like you have two mouses as far as control goes. The up/down/left/right buttons really imo hurt the controls.

kipohippo021

Actually FPS were specifically designed for the keyboard. Not the controller was designed for fps. lol

The mouse moves faster, with more precision, faster response. Do you know how long it takes to turn around with the controller...more sensitivity means less accuracy on a controller where as you keep the precision with the mouse when its faster.

[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]Shooters are better on the keyboard/mouse I agree that some genres aren't but not a lot. Maybe you are not used to gaming on itkipohippo021

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] That's nothing to do with the keyboard tho. locopatho

No...just go away, you dont like PC or people telling you the limits of hardware of consoles...we get.

lols wrong person i just saw ur pic all over that thread too

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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

Actually FPS were specifically designed for the keyboard. Not the controller was designed for fps. lol

edinsftw

The mouse moves faster, with more precision, faster response. Do you know how long it takes to turn around with the controller...more sensitivity means less accuracy on a controller where as you keep the precision with the mouse when its faster.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="edinsftw"]

No...just go away, you dont like PC or people telling you the limits of hardware of consoles...we get.

edinsftw

lols wrong person i just saw ur pic all over that thread too

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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"] But controllers of today were. The only reason the mouse is good is because using a "mouse" on a console is torture. You can go across the screen fast and easy with the mouse.

kipohippo021

The mouse moves faster, with more precision, faster response. Do you know how long it takes to turn around with the controller...more sensitivity means less accuracy on a controller where as you keep the precision with the mouse when its faster.

No, it gives you more control...so yes, it has an advantage over a controller, just like you said

keyboards do suck ass for gaming.

i use a speedpad when i play pc games.

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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

The mouse moves faster, with more precision, faster response. Do you know how long it takes to turn around with the controller...more sensitivity means less accuracy on a controller where as you keep the precision with the mouse when its faster.

edinsftw

No, it gives you more control...so yes, it has an advantage over a controller, just like you said

When it comes to FPS I don't care. But for most other genres those extra keys come in handy :)

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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"] So basically, the keyboard is better iyo because you can tweak the settings to give yourself an advantage?

kipohippo021

No, it gives you more control...so yes, it has an advantage over a controller, just like you said

No its actually harder. The controllers may be more awkward, but everyone has them. Thus making it even. When everyone has keyboard and mouse everything is faster, thus making the game more faced paced and also harder. You have to have a much faster reaction time for online games

Well, to begin with there are so much more commands, which is far more useful in mmorpgs, rpgs, rts, and fps.

Second, it is nice that the controllers are split, you did not ask for a mouse, which is fine, but it is really great that it is seperated, my keyboard is often reserved for movement and lover body movement in fps games, and it acts completely independent from the mouse, and second nature, so I really dont have to think about movement while aiming.

Having the possability to go from walk ->run -> jump over something, while it does not limit my ability to aim and look around really fast, is pretty much one of the reasons I prefer the kb+m over a gamepad.

The ability to bind custom commands in a game is also worth while, and just for giggles, in my average fps games I use about 33-34 buttens on the kyaboard, not counting the mouse.

And then ofcourse you can communicate by writing, to limit the kiddys having to use thier squeaky voices, and skip over possible bad sound from mics due disrtance, letters everyone can read and reacto to in an instant.

All boils down to: Gamepad has Nothing it can do a kb+m combo can not, the same can not be said the other way around.

The controllers do have thier shining moments for sure tho, I would not be caught dead playing: Platformers, beat'em ups, racing and sports games with a kb+m, 3rd person shooters, are often quite undecided between the two.

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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

No, it gives you more control...so yes, it has an advantage over a controller, just like you said

edinsftw

No its actually harder. The controllers may be more awkward, but everyone has them. Thus making it even. When everyone has keyboard and mouse everything is faster, thus making the game more faced paced and also harder. You have to have a much faster reaction time for online games

If you did a CoD game with controllers on one team and keyboard and mouse on the other.. The K&M team would win hands down easily. No matter how good the people with the game controllers are simply because K&M is superior in every way.

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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]So is that why? pc people cant go to consoles bc its harder, slower and awkward? But, console people can go on pc because it just makes it easier. Im not trying to make it sound like consoles are for "hardcore" gamers but, for fps's thats what it looks like. Exept for the number of keys. I give maximum respect to pc gamers because they have like 60 keys to memorize.

kipohippo021

No its actually harder. The controllers may be more awkward, but everyone has them. Thus making it even. When everyone has keyboard and mouse everything is faster, thus making the game more faced paced and also harder. You have to have a much faster reaction time for online games

That is why there is different keyboards and different mice. So it does fit like a glove. Trust me...i play both console and pc...console is slower paced. Its not hard to get used to the sensitivity, its the fact that u cant do a 360 in less than a second to do something abot someone shooting you

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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

No its actually harder. The controllers may be more awkward, but everyone has them. Thus making it even. When everyone has keyboard and mouse everything is faster, thus making the game more faced paced and also harder. You have to have a much faster reaction time for online games

edinsftw

That is why there is different keyboards and different mice. So it does fit like a glove. Trust me...i play both console and pc...console is slower paced. Its not hard to get used to the sensitivity, its the fact that u cant do a 360 in less than a second to do something abot someone shooting you

If you did a CoD game with controllers on one team and keyboard and mouse on the other.. The K&M team would win hands down easily. No matter how good the people with the game controllers are simply because K&M is superior in every way.

Crossel777

On pc you end up with a more tactical approach and on consoles, you can just run and gun. So pc users are not used to the sensetivity settings on a controller. On top of that the keyboard and mouse hurt your hands. Controllers just fit like a glove.

kipohippo021

PC more tactical? You crazy!

The PC's keyboard and mice gives the flexibility of both ultra run and gun and slower tactical approaches. Flexibility is what the PC is all about.

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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"] On pc you end up with a more tactical approach and on consoles, you can just run and gun. So pc users are not used to the sensetivity settings on a controller. On top of that the keyboard and mouse hurt your hands. Controllers just fit like a glove.

kipohippo021

That is why there is different keyboards and different mice. So it does fit like a glove. Trust me...i play both console and pc...console is slower paced. Its not hard to get used to the sensitivity, its the fact that u cant do a 360 in less than a second to do something abot someone shooting you

That would be interesting...but now u know why we prefer ketboard and mouse ;p

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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

That is why there is different keyboards and different mice. So it does fit like a glove. Trust me...i play both console and pc...console is slower paced. Its not hard to get used to the sensitivity, its the fact that u cant do a 360 in less than a second to do something abot someone shooting you

edinsftw

That would be interesting...but now u know why we prefer ketboard and mouse ;p

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]

On pc you end up with a more tactical approach and on consoles, you can just run and gun. So pc users are not used to the sensetivity settings on a controller. On top of that the keyboard and mouse hurt your hands. Controllers just fit like a glove.

XaosII

PC more tactical? You crazy!

The PC's keyboard and mice gives the flexibility of both ultra run and gun and slower tactical approaches. Flexibility is what the PC is all about.

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

If you did a CoD game with controllers on one team and keyboard and mouse on the other.. The K&M team would win hands down easily. No matter how good the people with the game controllers are simply because K&M is superior in every way.

kipohippo021

Game controllers exist on the PC to, much betters ones for that matter. They still can't hold their own to the mouse and keyboard. Consoles could use M&K but seeing as how their overrun with casuals now they will never get taken advantage of. All console gamers want is ease of use over indepth control. Well don't worry. Kinect is on it's way. All you gotta do is stand and arm flail. So much fun.

If you did a CoD game with controllers on one team and keyboard and mouse on the other.. The K&M team would win hands down easily. No matter how good the people with the game controllers are simply because K&M is superior in every way.

Crossel777

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

If you did a CoD game with controllers on one team and keyboard and mouse on the other.. The K&M team would win hands down easily. No matter how good the people with the game controllers are simply because K&M is superior in every way.

locopatho

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Crossel777"]

If you did a CoD game with controllers on one team and keyboard and mouse on the other.. The K&M team would win hands down easily. No matter how good the people with the game controllers are simply because K&M is superior in every way.

Crossel777

Im with this guy, everything is better when there is more of it...except food, and alcohol...both of those you should limit

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Crossel777"]

If you did a CoD game with controllers on one team and keyboard and mouse on the other.. The K&M team would win hands down easily. No matter how good the people with the game controllers are simply because K&M is superior in every way.

Crossel777

I use different devices for different genres.

Keyboard and/or mouse:

First-person games (shooters and RPG)

RTS

Turn-based strategy

Adventure

Classic games such as pinball

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Joystick:

Flight and combat sims

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Driving Wheel with pedals:

Racing and driving games

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Gamepad (aka controllers to the console crowd):

Sports games such as Madden and FIFA plus 3rd person games

On pc you end up with a more tactical approach and on consoles, you can just run and gun. So pc users are not used to the sensetivity settings on a controller. On top of that the keyboard and mouse hurt your hands. Controllers just fit like a glove.

kipohippo021

Yes, we all know console gamers don't really have a good attention span. No wonders CoD is so successful.

That said, KB+M hurts YOUR hands. Not "our".

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[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

If you did a CoD game with controllers on one team and keyboard and mouse on the other.. The K&M team would win hands down easily. No matter how good the people with the game controllers are simply because K&M is superior in every way.

Crossel777

Game controllers exist on the PC to, much betters ones for that matter. They still can't hold their own to the mouse and keyboard. Consoles could use M&K but seeing as how their overrun with casuals now they will never get taken advantage of. All console gamers want is ease of use over indepth control. Well don't worry. Kinect is on it's way. All you gotta do is stand and arm flail. So much fun.