PC the pawn of the 360?

title is bound to attract a lot of attention. well hear me out.

1. MS wants more games for the 360 that arent on PS3. Makes sense if you want to be competitive.

2. To do that, why not leech off of upcoming PC releases and strike deals to make ONLY a 360 port?

So basically the PC is helping the 360 to compete against the PS3.

Has anybody thought of it like this?

title is bound to attract a lot of attention. well hear me out.

1. MS wants more games for the 360 that arent on PS3. Makes sense if you want to be competitive.

2. To do that, why not leech off of upcoming PC releases and strike deals to make ONLY a 360 port?

So basically the PC is helping the 360 to compete against the PS3.

Has anybody thought of it like this?

-GhostMLD-

It works the other way too, the 360 becomes less appealing to somone who already has a gaming PC with alot of big 360 games going to PC.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

title is bound to attract a lot of attention. well hear me out.

1. MS wants more games for the 360 that arent on PS3. Makes sense if you want to be competitive.

2. To do that, why not leech off of upcoming PC releases and strike deals to make ONLY a 360 port?

So basically the PC is helping the 360 to compete against the PS3.

Has anybody thought of it like this?

pieatorium

It works the other way too, the 360 becomes less appealing to somone who already has a gaming PC with alot of big 360 games going to PC.

true, but surely this does more good then bad.

I own the 360 versions of Bioshock, Mass Effect and Gears of War. Its just me, but I am a console gamer. PC doesnt even enter the equation and im sure im not alone on that (until Starcraft 2 comes out). So im glad there were these games to set it apart from PS3.

What PC releases? The PC is lucky to get a decent game every year these days.

And Microsoft already gets exclusives by pushing for 360 & PC releases.....Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, and the list goes on. Remember, Windows is Microsofts first gaming platform.

What PC releases? The PC is lucky to get a decent game every year these days.

And Microsoft already gets exclusives by pushing for 360 & PC releases.....Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, and the list goes on. Remember, Windows is Microsofts first gaming platform.

Hulabaloza

ya i mean, it only got 3 AA+ games in febuary....

Not much of a pawn considering it has more AA/AAAE's. :|

What PC releases? The PC is lucky to get a decent game every year these days.

And Microsoft already gets exclusives by pushing for 360 & PC releases.....Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, and the list goes on. Remember, Windows is Microsofts first gaming platform.

Hulabaloza

Seems to me, PC is still geting many AAA every year.

And,I could probably play theses games on linux.

Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.rimnet00

[QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]

What PC releases? The PC is lucky to get a decent game every year these days.

And Microsoft already gets exclusives by pushing for 360 & PC releases.....Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, and the list goes on. Remember, Windows is Microsofts first gaming platform.

warmaster670

ya i mean, it only got 3 AA+ games in febuary....

What did x360 get in feb?

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.tader-salad

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.tader-salad

no, they dont, all they make is the OS, which you dont even have to "buy" to be ab le to use it, if anyone "owns" pc gaming, its Nvidia/whatever the other one is.

besides, they make no money off of other peoples games on windows

What PC releases? The PC is lucky to get a decent game every year these days.

And Microsoft already gets exclusives by pushing for 360 & PC releases.....Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, and the list goes on. Remember, Windows is Microsofts first gaming platform.

Hulabaloza

Yeah okay. :roll:

And I guess you won't have any problems then explaining to me how Microsoft owns PC gaming when they have no say over the content being put on their OS and don't make a profit off any games they don't publish?

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.tader-salad

Ever heard of wine for mac and linux?

[QUOTE="warmaster670"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]

What PC releases? The PC is lucky to get a decent game every year these days.

And Microsoft already gets exclusives by pushing for 360 & PC releases.....Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, and the list goes on. Remember, Windows is Microsofts first gaming platform.

Bebi_vegeta

ya i mean, it only got 3 AA+ games in febuary....

What did x360 get in feb?

1 AA

What PC releases? The PC is lucky to get a decent game every year these days.

And Microsoft already gets exclusives by pushing for 360 & PC releases.....Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, and the list goes on. Remember, Windows is Microsofts first gaming platform.

Hulabaloza

:lol: you new here?

I should let you know so you don't display such ignorance in the future....

The PC in 2007 had more AAA/AA exclusives then the PS3/360 and Wii combined, sorry the truth hurts.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.tader-salad

No... pretty much they don't. There are plenty of Mac games as well. Just because Microsoft owns the primary operating system used for gaming, doesn't mean they own the sector. That is simply foolish when you consider the OS is just one block in the entire building.

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.warmaster670

no, they dont, all they make is the OS, which you dont even have to "buy" to be ab le to use it, if anyone "owns" pc gaming, its Nvidia/whatever the other one is.

besides, they make no money off of other peoples games on windows

]They may not "own" pc gaming, but they do play a HUGE role in the pc gaming industry tader-salad

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="warmaster670"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]

What PC releases? The PC is lucky to get a decent game every year these days.

And Microsoft already gets exclusives by pushing for 360 & PC releases.....Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, and the list goes on. Remember, Windows is Microsofts first gaming platform.

warmaster670

ya i mean, it only got 3 AA+ games in febuary....

What did x360 get in feb?

1 AA

ouch...

[QUOTE="warmaster670"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="warmaster670"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]

What PC releases? The PC is lucky to get a decent game every year these days.

And Microsoft already gets exclusives by pushing for 360 & PC releases.....Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, and the list goes on. Remember, Windows is Microsofts first gaming platform.

Bebi_vegeta

ya i mean, it only got 3 AA+ games in febuary....

What did x360 get in feb?

1 AA

ouch...

to be fair, they had some AA+ games, they were just spread out more

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.rimnet00

No... pretty much they don't. There are plenty of Mac games as well. Just because Microsoft owns the primary operating system used for gaming, doesn't mean they own the sector. That is simply foolish when you consider the OS is just one block in the entire building.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.tader-salad

No... pretty much they don't. There are plenty of Mac games as well. Just because Microsoft owns the primary operating system used for gaming, doesn't mean they own the sector. That is simply foolish when you consider the OS is just one block in the entire building.

Imagine if you didn't own a power supply, you would not be able to enjoy some of the best games like Crysis, Gears of War, etc. The power supply companies own PC GAMIONG!!11

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.tader-salad

No... pretty much they don't. There are plenty of Mac games as well. Just because Microsoft owns the primary operating system used for gaming, doesn't mean they own the sector. That is simply foolish when you consider the OS is just one block in the entire building.

If they own PC gaming, then how come they don't make a profit from Crysis or CoD4 or Sins? And if they own it so damn much, why don't they have any say over the content put on their OS?

It doesn't sound like they own it at all. :(

Wrong way around.

Consoles are the PC's b****'s.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.tader-salad

No... pretty much they don't. There are plenty of Mac games as well. Just because Microsoft owns the primary operating system used for gaming, doesn't mean they own the sector. That is simply foolish when you consider the OS is just one block in the entire building.

Again you can use Wine for Mac and Linux.

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.NerdMan

No... pretty much they don't. There are plenty of Mac games as well. Just because Microsoft owns the primary operating system used for gaming, doesn't mean they own the sector. That is simply foolish when you consider the OS is just one block in the entire building.

Imagine if you didn't own a power supply, you would not be able to enjoy some of the best games like Crysis, Gears of War, etc. The power supply companies own PC GAMIONG!!11

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.tader-salad

No... pretty much they don't. There are plenty of Mac games as well. Just because Microsoft owns the primary operating system used for gaming, doesn't mean they own the sector. That is simply foolish when you consider the OS is just one block in the entire building.

If Vista didn't exist, we would be using XP. If Windows didn't exist, we would use linux, bsd, osx, etc.

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.rimnet00

No... pretty much they don't. There are plenty of Mac games as well. Just because Microsoft owns the primary operating system used for gaming, doesn't mean they own the sector. That is simply foolish when you consider the OS is just one block in the entire building.

If Vista didn't exist, we would be using XP. If Windows didn't exist, we would use linux, bsd, osx, etc.

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.rimnet00

No... pretty much they don't. There are plenty of Mac games as well. Just because Microsoft owns the primary operating system used for gaming, doesn't mean they own the sector. That is simply foolish when you consider the OS is just one block in the entire building.

If Vista didn't exist, we would be using XP. If Windows didn't exist, we would use linux, bsd, osx, etc.

Imagine if you didn't own a power supply, you would not be able to enjoy some of the best games like Crysis, Gears of War, etc. The power supply companies own PC GAMIONG!!11

NerdMan

The difference though is that games are not exclusive to one power supply, you can use any (as long as it has enough watts), but many games are exclusive to one OS, meaning you need Windows to play the game not anything else.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.tader-salad

No... pretty much they don't. There are plenty of Mac games as well. Just because Microsoft owns the primary operating system used for gaming, doesn't mean they own the sector. That is simply foolish when you consider the OS is just one block in the entire building.

If Vista didn't exist, we would be using XP. If Windows didn't exist, we would use linux, bsd, osx, etc.

http://wiki.winehq.org/

Look at the first sentence of this web page...

"Wine lets Linux, Mac, BSD, and Solaris users run Windows applications -- without a copy of Microsoft Windows."

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.Bebi_vegeta

No... pretty much they don't. There are plenty of Mac games as well. Just because Microsoft owns the primary operating system used for gaming, doesn't mean they own the sector. That is simply foolish when you consider the OS is just one block in the entire building.

If Vista didn't exist, we would be using XP. If Windows didn't exist, we would use linux, bsd, osx, etc.

http://wiki.winehq.org/

Look at the first sentence of this web page...

"Wine lets Linux, Mac, BSD, and Solaris users run Windows applications -- without a copy of Microsoft Windows."

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

http://wiki.winehq.org/

Look at the first sentence of this web page...

"Wine lets Linux, Mac, BSD, and Solaris users run Windows applications -- without a copy of Microsoft Windows."

tader-salad

Yes, or else Microsoft would of done something.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

title is bound to attract a lot of attention. well hear me out.

1. MS wants more games for the 360 that arent on PS3. Makes sense if you want to be competitive.

2. To do that, why not leech off of upcoming PC releases and strike deals to make ONLY a 360 port?

So basically the PC is helping the 360 to compete against the PS3.

Has anybody thought of it like this?

pieatorium

It works the other way too, the 360 becomes less appealing to somone who already has a gaming PC with alot of big 360 games going to PC.

yeah your 1 big game that's gone to pc (gears of war)

Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.rimnet00

Who does then?

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.tader-salad

No... pretty much they don't. There are plenty of Mac games as well. Just because Microsoft owns the primary operating system used for gaming, doesn't mean they own the sector. That is simply foolish when you consider the OS is just one block in the entire building.

If Vista didn't exist, we would be using XP. If Windows didn't exist, we would use linux, bsd, osx, etc.

http://wiki.winehq.org/

Look at the first sentence of this web page...

"Wine lets Linux, Mac, BSD, and Solaris users run Windows applications -- without a copy of Microsoft Windows."

yes, emulation is legal in the US provided that you own the actual program you are trying to emulate.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.xsubtownerx

Who does then?

nobody, its an open platform.

What PC releases? The PC is lucky to get a decent game every year these days.

And Microsoft already gets exclusives by pushing for 360 & PC releases.....Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, and the list goes on. Remember, Windows is Microsofts first gaming platform.

Hulabaloza

last year pc killed consoles, crysis, stalker, the witcher world in conflcit yes you might get wic over a year later but the rest are unlilkly not that i care. and crysis sales = $0 for ms same with stalker the witcher etc and every game unless ms is the publisher

yes, emulation is legal in the US provided that you own the actual program you are trying to emulate.

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]Microsoft doesn't own PC gaming.tader-salad

no, they dont, all they make is the OS, which you dont even have to "buy" to be ab le to use it, if anyone "owns" pc gaming, its Nvidia/whatever the other one is.

besides, they make no money off of other peoples games on windows

They do, but they do not 'own it". Not only they don't make money of pcgames sales, but also they have limited influence over devs. One just has to look how much Vista, dx10 and Games for Windows Live are flopping

They do, but they do not 'own it". Not only they don't make money of pcgames sales, but also they have limited influence over devs. One just has to look how much Vista, dx10 and Games for Windows Live are flopping

AdrianWerner

Yah, but too be fair, DX10 was a collaborate effort by the developers and microsoft as a whole to change the standard of computer graphics moving forward. Many of the specifications that it entails will also be found with the next iteration of OpenGL. Though, I do think that it was used as a marketing tool to push Vista.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

They do, but they do not 'own it". Not only they don't make money of pcgames sales, but also they have limited influence over devs. One just has to look how much Vista, dx10 and Games for Windows Live are flopping

rimnet00

Yah, but too be fair, DX10 was a collaborate effort by the developers and microsoft as a whole to change the standard of computer graphics moving forward. Many of the specifications that it entails will also be found with the next iteration of OpenGL. Though, I do think that it was used as a marketing tool to push Vista.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

They do, but they do not 'own it". Not only they don't make money of pcgames sales, but also they have limited influence over devs. One just has to look how much Vista, dx10 and Games for Windows Live are flopping

carrot-cake

Yah, but too be fair, DX10 was a collaborate effort by the developers and microsoft as a whole to change the standard of computer graphics moving forward. Many of the specifications that it entails will also be found with the next iteration of OpenGL. Though, I do think that it was used as a marketing tool to push Vista.

Hmmm. I disagree. I can't stand the sight of XP anymore after using Vista.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

They do, but they do not 'own it". Not only they don't make money of pcgames sales, but also they have limited influence over devs. One just has to look how much Vista, dx10 and Games for Windows Live are flopping

carrot-cake

Yah, but too be fair, DX10 was a collaborate effort by the developers and microsoft as a whole to change the standard of computer graphics moving forward. Many of the specifications that it entails will also be found with the next iteration of OpenGL. Though, I do think that it was used as a marketing tool to push Vista.

I wouldn't go as far as saying Vista sucks. I personally thinks it performs better then XP for me. Especially when it comes to every day use. In terms of gaming, Vista at this point performs just about as well as XP does. Though I have a year old rig, which makes quite a difference.

title is bound to attract a lot of attention. well hear me out.

1. MS wants more games for the 360 that arent on PS3. Makes sense if you want to be competitive.

2. To do that, why not leech off of upcoming PC releases and strike deals to make ONLY a 360 port?

So basically the PC is helping the 360 to compete against the PS3.

Has anybody thought of it like this?

-GhostMLD-

What PC releases? The PC is lucky to get a decent game every year these days.

And Microsoft already gets exclusives by pushing for 360 & PC releases.....Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, and the list goes on. Remember, Windows is Microsofts first gaming platform.

Hulabaloza