Phil Harrison - Its not a PS3 issue that Madden isn't peforming at 60fps

At the E3, this year, Phil Harrison talks with 1upabout theMaddenperformance issue on the PS3 and he responds. Unfortunately, its at the end of the video. It seems like Phil Harrison is bothered by the interviewer's question but he points out that Sony has no issues with their sport games running at 1080p 60fps.

"We are provding some tools and technologiesfrom our WorldwideStudios core technoloy groups, actually to third parties now, as well. You may remember from GDC we announced this thing called EDGE and that's now widely deployedin the Third party community developers and that isclearly improving the developers ability to maximize what the Cell processor does.Hopefully that will assist the folks at EA..."

"It would concern me if the platform was incapable of doing it [60fps], but we've proven that the platform was capable of doing it. So its not a Playstation 3issue...I am trying to be polite here"

So is Phil is saying EA has no real understanding what the Cell processor does? ...Politely?

Link:

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/13584

He is right. They built the game engine most likely on the 360. To save time and money they ported it.

With Oblivion they ported the game engine yet rebuilt the shaders for the PS3. That took a long time to do. EA dosen't have that time, so they just ported the engine and optimized the best they could do in the amount of time they had.

in other words EA and madden are trash

He is right. They built the game engine most likely on the 360. To save time and money they ported it.

With Oblivion they ported the game engine yet rebuilt the shaders for the PS3. That took a long time to do. EA dosen't have that time, so they just ported the engine and optimized the best they could do in the amount of time they had.

Wasdie

That's exactly it. You'd have to be on crack to believe that the PS3 couldn't handle Madden at 60fps. It all has to do with development. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's really dumb of fanboys to use Madden to bash the PS3; we know it's capable of running games at 60fps.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

He is right. They built the game engine most likely on the 360. To save time and money they ported it.

With Oblivion they ported the game engine yet rebuilt the shaders for the PS3. That took a long time to do. EA dosen't have that time, so they just ported the engine and optimized the best they could do in the amount of time they had.

dubvisions

That's exactly it. You'd have to be on crack to believe that the PS3 couldn't handle Madden at 60fps. It all has to do with development. Nothing more, nothing less.

Escpecially right now so early in the gen. The devs still don't know how to get the most out of either the PS3 or Xbox 360.

in other words EA and madden are trash

tidus222

In even other words, the 360 is the preferred hardware to develop for.

It's the Cell's issue.Taz-Bone

Not really. Both Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue are capable of running in 60FPS, and at a resolution of 1080p. Both games are more graphically intense than Madden 08.

It's the Cell's issue.Taz-Bone

Explain UT3 on PS3 then:|

[QUOTE="tidus222"]

in other words EA and madden are trash

kevbo77

In even other words, the 360 is the preferred hardware to develop for.

in other words, the 360 is basic compared to the ps3 which is more advance and takes time and effort to exploit

I'm sure the PS3 can handle 60fps Madden easily. But, the fact that it's only at 30fps tells me two things: 1. The PS3 must be very hard to work with. 2. The people at EA are a bunch of know nothings.briguyb13

3. It took them 3 years to get Madden running 60 FPS on 360, and this is it's 2nd year on PS3 ;)

EA just doesnt know the power of the cell. No one does... not even SONY.

[QUOTE="briguyb13"]I'm sure the PS3 can handle 60fps Madden easily. But, the fact that it's only at 30fps tells me two things: 1. The PS3 must be very hard to work with. 2. The people at EA are a bunch of know nothings.MikeE21286

i still blame sony. They are just now giving devs that EDGE tool. MS has given all the tools needed to make coding on the xbox 360 as painless as possible from the start. Sony began by telling the devs... you guys figure it out.

Yes, he's basically blaming the devs w/o blaming the devs (politely). He's not really saying that it's not an issue.....he's basically trying to say the PS3 is capable of doing it.MikeE21286

It's capable. Just that Phil didn't mention that PS3 coding and optimizing is like a punch in the face.

He is right. They built the game engine most likely on the 360. To save time and money they ported it.

With Oblivion they ported the game engine yet rebuilt the shaders for the PS3. That took a long time to do. EA dosen't have that time, so they just ported the engine and optimized the best they could do in the amount of time they had.

Wasdie

EA just doesnt know the power of the cell. No one does... not even SONY.

GalvyX99

[QUOTE="briguyb13"]I'm sure the PS3 can handle 60fps Madden easily. But, the fact that it's only at 30fps tells me two things: 1. The PS3 must be very hard to work with. 2. The people at EA are a bunch of know nothings.MikeE21286

3. It took them 3 years to get Madden running 60 FPS on 360, and this is it's 2nd year on PS3 ;)

Wow, 3 years?!?!? For Madden?!?!? :question:

[QUOTE="GalvyX99"]

EA just doesnt know the power of the cell. No one does... not even SONY.

jdang307

EA doesnt care about quality games. they are in it for the money. I feel bad about their other games too

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

[QUOTE="briguyb13"]I'm sure the PS3 can handle 60fps Madden easily. But, the fact that it's only at 30fps tells me two things: 1. The PS3 must be very hard to work with. 2. The people at EA are a bunch of know nothings.DementedDragon

3. It took them 3 years to get Madden running 60 FPS on 360, and this is it's 2nd year on PS3 ;)

Wow, 3 years?!?!? For Madden?!?!? :question:

...isn't the difficulty of making games for the ps3 partly a ps3 issue?Codename33

Hammer, meet nail.

And asking why they didn't just take the time to do it shows ignorance. You have release timing issues as well as cost issues.

If we didn't have Sigma, Oblivion, UT3 and id Tech 5 (who said it'd run at 60 fps across all platforms) you'd be right. See, everyone can make good argumentsif you just ignore a few things.jdang307

Your sarcasm detector is defective.

[QUOTE="jdang307"] If we didn't have Sigma, Oblivion, UT3 and id Tech 5 (who said it'd run at 60 fps across all platforms) you'd be right. See, everyone can make good argumentsif you just ignore a few things.GalvyX99

Your sarcasm detector is defective.

I think he has every right to, and its not even to do with the PS3 (why im saying it)

EA has been putting a half-ass effort into their sports games....case in point...NCAA 08

EA just doesnt know the power of the cell. No one does... not even SONY.

GalvyX99

lol true

[QUOTE="Taz-Bone"]It's the Cell's issue.-Spock-

Not really. Both Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue are capable of running in 60FPS, and at a resolution of 1080p. Both games are more graphically intense than Madden 08.

Most of EA games are seasonal..which means they can't spend time on it like more unique games. They don't have 3 and 4 years to make a game like most devs do..So yeah, I think they have to be a bit sloppier with how they dev things.Pro_wrestler

Phil did well on that interview... BUT ! He contradicted himself in the end. He said himself that he doesn't know what the issue was, yet, he says the PS3 is capable of doing it so it's not the PS3's fault.Forza_2

He might have meant he didn't know what caused it.

He might have meant he didn't know what caused it.Scarletred

How's that any different ? If he doesn't know what caused the problem, how could he know it's not the PS3's fault ?

[QUOTE="Scarletred"]He might have meant he didn't know what caused it.Forza_2

How's that any different ? If he doesn't know what caused the problem, how could he know it's not the PS3's fault ?

Because it's obvious it isn't if other games with better graphics are running at 60fps on the PS3. (namely UT3)