Phil Spencer: "I know we have to take risks [after Scalebound cancellation]"

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#151 Shewgenja
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@darkangel115 said:
@Shewgenja said:

They had better have the best E3 ever this year or people will Switch to another console that delivers.

A game console without exclusives is like a hydrophobic diving instructor. It's a sick joke that you have a 100 million dollar controller and a 50 cent lineup of games.

it's worked well for sony for the past 3 years lol

2014 and 2015, I'll agree with you. 2016 was good, though.

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#152  Edited By mjorh
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@Blazed: It's a third-person shooter, i know it's a broad term but i don't feel left out if i don't play UC4 ...but the same doesn't go for Nintendo games, like Mario Kart ... you might say it's just my opinion but sales also prove this.

Power means a lot (of course, there are other factors like price), PS4 has been the best console for multi-plats hence the high sales.

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#154 blueinheaven
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@uninspiredcup said:

He's a business man not a charity.

Most of PlatinumGames games sell poorly, you bet on the winning horse.

What horse is he betting on? He didn't replace a flagging horse with a better, much more capable horse, he just shot the fucking horse!

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#155 darkangel115
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@Shewgenja said:
@darkangel115 said:
@Shewgenja said:

They had better have the best E3 ever this year or people will Switch to another console that delivers.

A game console without exclusives is like a hydrophobic diving instructor. It's a sick joke that you have a 100 million dollar controller and a 50 cent lineup of games.

it's worked well for sony for the past 3 years lol

2014 and 2015, I'll agree with you. 2016 was good, though.

not according to my collection.

2017 looks like it might be good. I'm excited for horizon, i have to try the nier demo still since i have faith in platinum despite the scalebound fiasco and i missed out on bayonetta 2 for not having a wii u. nothing else is really interesting me out of the sony camp though unless GOW4 trailer wasn't a good representation of the game cause that trailer was a disgrace to one of my favorite franchises.

Regardless though 2017 will be good cause ME:A is coming out and it'll be better then any exclusive MS or Sony can throw out in 2017. it'll basically consume most of my year

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#156 cainetao11
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@charizard1605 said:

@cainetao11:Likewise, my friend, you are one of my favorite users on here.

But I would still disagree, in that it is entirely possible for me to support a company or a person, without supporting everything they do. For instance, I support Spencer's drive to make Xbox gamer centric. I support Spencer's push for varied games. I support Spencer's push to have an actual powerful console again. I support all of that- but I don't see the results of those pushes yet, and until I do... why should I purchase his system? I don't give my money away on a participation basis, I spend money on a product that I think is worth it. So I can give Spencer a chance in that I am eagerly waiting for his initiatives to pan out, and going into everything he does with an open mind (which, as you well know, is a trait that is at a premium these days), but until the things he is doing bear substantive results, I don't see any reason to spend money on his product. I didn't buy a Wii U until over a year in because I didn't feel that the product was worth my money- but you know how much I support Nintendo, and how many chances I give them. That didn't align with me buying the Wii U, not until I felt it was worth it. It's the same situation here. I give Spencer every chance to win me over- the minute he does, he will have my money. But not until then- ultimately, I have limited funds, and a lot of things vying for them, most of them far more necessary than video games (and what would at this point be a sixth gaming system)- so I am not in a position to blow $350 on a home console just to show support, I am afraid. I am in a position to buy what I want, maybe a bit later than I'd like, but to buy it nonetheless- and the day Spencer makes the Xbox something I like, I will buy it.

But that question remains independent of me supporting him.

Well put. I see your point and respect that. The WiiU part was very eye opening for me. Thank you for the candidness.

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#157  Edited By EG101
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@kvally said:

It's a bummer that Phil has to defend Microsoft for Platinum Games failures.

There's a rumor out there that Platinum put MS money into other games they developed.

If that's true then Platinum is at Fault for sure but that doesn't explain why MS cancelled Phantom Dust and why MS hasn't invested in Rare's portfolio outside of Killer Instinct.

MS also owns other Great ip like Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Crimson Skies, Blood Wake, Mech Assault and Kung Fu Chaos to name a Few.

I just don't see MS investing in the games space like they really want to be the Major player. MS seems happy just being in the game instead of winning the game. Too bad J. Allard is gone. Seems like MS management lacks passion.

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#158 FLOPPAGE_50
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@EG101: that is scummy by PG If true, they did send their senior devs to work on other games.

PG is to blame.

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#159 Ant_17
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@kvally said:

@Shewgenja: it's not our fault PG fucked up.

And it's not our fault if MS was underpaying them.

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#160  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Juub1990 said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Juub1990 said:

@ronvalencia: Shut up idiot.

You shut up idiot.

I'm not the one who quoted first you to say something irrelevant, cretin.

My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

The thread context

samfisher56 said: Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives lol?

Ronvalencia said: Same arguments... I posted graphs as sample set to show western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Ghost_Dub siad: You post the same charts over and over with no context like a damn spam bot.

Ronvalencia said: My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

Ghost_Dub started personality based debates by accusing me being a damn spam bot. I backed my argument with graphs that shown western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Try again clown.

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#161 Juub1990
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@ronvalencia said:

My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

The thread context

samfisher56 said: Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives lol?

Ronvalencia said: Same arguments... I posted graphs as sample set to show western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Ghost_Dub siad: You post the same charts over and over with no context like a damn spam bot.

Ronvalencia said: My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

Ghost_Dub started personality based debates by accusing me being a damn spam bot. I backed my argument with graphs that shown western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Try again clown.

Please STFU. Don't quote me idiot.

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#162 silversix_
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@Juub1990 said:
@ronvalencia said:

My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

The thread context

samfisher56 said: Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives lol?

Ronvalencia said: Same arguments... I posted graphs as sample set to show western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Ghost_Dub siad: You post the same charts over and over with no context like a damn spam bot.

Ronvalencia said: My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

Ghost_Dub started personality based debates by accusing me being a damn spam bot. I backed my argument with graphs that shown western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Try again clown.

Please STFU. Don't quote me idiot.

lololol

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#163 Juub1990
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@silversix_ said:

lololol

I mean I don't even know WTF he is even talking about. I list a couple of projects Microsoft gave up on then he tells me Scalebound is on UE4. So who gives a fuc??

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#164 QuadKnight
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@Juub1990 said:
@ronvalencia said:

My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

The thread context

samfisher56 said: Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives lol?

Ronvalencia said: Same arguments... I posted graphs as sample set to show western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Ghost_Dub siad: You post the same charts over and over with no context like a damn spam bot.

Ronvalencia said: My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

Ghost_Dub started personality based debates by accusing me being a damn spam bot. I backed my argument with graphs that shown western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Try again clown.

Please STFU. Don't quote me idiot.

lol

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#165 silversix_
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@Juub1990 said:
@silversix_ said:

lololol

I mean I don't even know WTF he is even talking about. I list a couple of projects Microsoft gave up on then he tells me Scalebound is on UE4. So who gives a fuc??

hahaha i know right? i mean, who the **** answers a question by posting 16 graphs in one post (page 3 of this thread) when his answer had fawkall to do with the subject... Ron must be a program or something.

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@Juub1990 said:
@ronvalencia said:

My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

The thread context

samfisher56 said: Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives lol?

Ronvalencia said: Same arguments... I posted graphs as sample set to show western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Ghost_Dub siad: You post the same charts over and over with no context like a damn spam bot.

Ronvalencia said: My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

Ghost_Dub started personality based debates by accusing me being a damn spam bot. I backed my argument with graphs that shown western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Try again clown.

Please STFU. Don't quote me idiot.

You STFU. You started this personality war idiot.

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#167  Edited By Juub1990
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@ronvalencia said:
@Juub1990 said:
@ronvalencia said:

My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

The thread context

samfisher56 said: Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives lol?

Ronvalencia said: Same arguments... I posted graphs as sample set to show western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Ghost_Dub siad: You post the same charts over and over with no context like a damn spam bot.

Ronvalencia said: My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

Ghost_Dub started personality based debates by accusing me being a damn spam bot. I backed my argument with graphs that shown western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Try again clown.

Please STFU. Don't quote me idiot.

You STFU. You started this personality war idiot.

I'm now convinced he is a bot. Nothing he says makes sense. Ask him what the weather is outside and he'll answer with a bunch of bullshit charts proving GCN is more efficient than whatever NVIDIA has.

Like why the hell are you quoting Ghost_Dub and samfisher56? These guys aren't me.

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#168 QuadKnight
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@silversix_ said:
@Juub1990 said:
@silversix_ said:

lololol

I mean I don't even know WTF he is even talking about. I list a couple of projects Microsoft gave up on then he tells me Scalebound is on UE4. So who gives a fuc??

hahaha i know right? i mean, who the **** answers a question by posting 16 graphs in one post (page 3 of this thread) when his answer had fawkall to do with the subject... Ron must be a program or something.

First time I saw him on SW I genuinely thought he was a bot. He's an odd fellow for sure.

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#169 ronvalencia
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@Juub1990 said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Juub1990 said:
@ronvalencia said:

My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

The thread context

samfisher56 said: Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives lol?

Ronvalencia said: Same arguments... I posted graphs as sample set to show western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Ghost_Dub siad: You post the same charts over and over with no context like a damn spam bot.

Ronvalencia said: My charts addressed "Who cares for performance when flopio will have literally zero exclusives" argument. Multiplatform games still has good sales result on XBO with better attach rate than PC.

Ghost_Dub started personality based debates by accusing me being a damn spam bot. I backed my argument with graphs that shown western multiplatform game revenues on XBO riving PC.

Try again clown.

Please STFU. Don't quote me idiot.

You STFU. You started this personality war idiot.

I'm now convinced he is a bot. Nothing he says makes sense. Ask him what the weather is outside and he'll answer with a bunch of bullshit charts proving GCN is more efficient than whatever NVIDIA has.

Like why the hell are you quoting Ghost_Dub and samfisher56? These guys aren't me.

Recall

@Juub1990 said:

@ronvalencia: Shut up idiot.

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#170 Juub1990
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@ronvalencia: You're not even making sense. Go back to your crackhouse.

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#171 ronvalencia
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@Juub1990 said:

@ronvalencia: You're not even making sense. Go back to your crackhouse.

Against your "he'll answer with a bunch of bullshit charts proving GCN is more efficient than whatever NVIDIA has"

My R9-390X graphs was against

@blufalconultra said:

@primorandomguy said:

@charizard1605: I gotcha. I just thought you'd be really interested in the performance it would give out. 1080p, 60fps on every game ( developer willing) sounds amazing. Or 4k, 30fps, maybe 60.

PS4Pro already does 4K on games that use it. It looks ok, but the HDR is what really makes the difference. Scorpio won't be powerful enough to do 4K at 60fps. PC can't even do that.

My point, Scorpio is powerful enough to do 4K at higher incidence than PS4 Pro. There's less need for 4K/60 with HDMI 2.1's adaptive sync.

You go back to your crackhouse.

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#172 Jag85
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@Zero_epyon said:
@Shewgenja said:

They had better have the best E3 ever this year or people will Switch to another console that delivers.

A game console without exclusives is like a hydrophobic diving instructor. It's a sick joke that you have a 100 million dollar controller and a 50 cent lineup of games.

I see what you did there...

Subliminal advertising.