Playstation Experience 2015 #PRETEND IT NEVER HAPPENED.

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#601 Rock-City
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It fell well below my personal expectations. This show was a business deal or something. An appreciation event for all these devs supporting Sony I guess.

The only silver lining to emerge from this turd is that we know the 1st party heavy hitter shit will be revealed at E3. That means Bend, Sucker Punch, and Santa Monica should have that under wraps AAA shit front and center.

I don't even think the footage from FFVII saved this show for me.

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#602 bunchanumbers
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@a-new-guardian said:

@bunchanumbers: and these are pretty much the casual games for the casuals who bought the console ( are you really going to stand behind the sales of games like Wii sports, when Zelda or their other big franchises that are not Mario that have been famous for over 20 years, that should be selling like that? ) like Wii sports and other games that sold with the system ( I wish you have a link to them? ) with throwing in a few actually good games which is rare for the Wii considering the library is mostly shit. . The Wii had no ground to stand on except for its sales and few gems. 7 games sold that much in the longest Gen? Not really impressive. How about their other first party games? Or the Wii u game sales? Remember the wonderful 101? Or bayonetta 2? Yeah I don't like to determine the quality of a product by its sales but the Wii is a piece of garbage with a few worthy gems like Xenoblade which is on the 3DS now. The Wii is Nintendo's biggest success and its fans worst failure after the Wii U.

Fact is Dreamcast did better than the Wiiu no matter the circumstances. Shows how irrelevant the WiiU is really and it's only being carried by its loyal Nintendo fans which is evidently not enough as you can see they have to produce another console now lol.

The discontent you see is a forums thing lol. In the real world people eat that shit up and think it's one of the best shows ever. The proof is the sales Sony keeps boasting about every week or two.

Point is the Wii was a fluke. We all know this now, wether Mario kart did 60 million or Wii sports sold 100 million. It's just casuals eating that shit. The Wii became irrelevant quickly and is recognised by most people as a big flop. It was the console for casuals. You Nintendo fans should not even be defending that shit, but hey anything to keep believing they did something so that the fanboys can sleep at ease at night in denial fully knowing the Wii and WiiU other than a few gems, are shitty console and proof that Nintendo does not know its own fanbase and that they have kept stabbing you in the back for 9 years. People had to beg for Xenoblade if you remember lol. 9 years of suffering .

Is there a reason why you're calling people who buy a games console 'casual'? I sincerely doubt that all 30 million PS4 sales are all hardcore mature adult gamers. I wouldn't doubt in the least if a large portion of those sales are 'casuals' who were told that all their friends play on PS4. Or bought into Sony's PS4 console power campaign. Or saw a Star Wars Battlefront commercial and bought one on a lark because they love star wars. You really ought to consider this when you're slamming a console.

Not only that why are you even criticizing 'casual' gaming in the first place? Its making as much money as 'hardcore' gaming is on a annual basis. Why do you think Sony was desperate to get displaced Wii owners? Something you better think about is that Sony, MS, or Nintendo would punch out stuff like Wii all the time if it sold like the Wii did. Look at those PSMove controllers if you want an example. I don't blame Nintendo for trying to double dip on Wii. Any company would have done the same thing.

Irrelevant or not, Wii U has awesome exclusives and Nintendo did what they could. I really have no issue with them pushing NX asap. They gave it their best shot and there are still games coming on it. Having said that lets have no more derailing ok? This isn't an anti Nintendo thread. Please feel free to make a new thread.

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#603 A-new-Guardian
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@bunchanumbers: oh I know casuals are the majority of ps4 owners. I'm just arguing that unlike Nintendo, Sony has the numbers and immense support.

I'm not out to get the casuals, I'm just saying pointing out that the success of Nintendo last Gen was a gimmick that casuals bought into.

Trust me I love Nintendo but I'm not blind like some people here. I call like I see it. Sony did bad today and they deserve to be bashed. Nintendo WiiU failed and they deserve to be bashed. But yeah let's agree to disagree. I think NX unless they do something incredible, it's going to fail like the WiiU. I don't want Nintendo out of the race, I just think that they can't do it. They can prove me wrong anytime they want.

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#604 WitIsWisdom
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The new FFVII remake ISN'T TURN BASED? What a hot steaming pile of mastodon shit..... screw that.

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#605 Cloud_imperium
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@GameboyTroy said:

The Show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc29apGNFcQ

Playlist

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLol_ykYs3OQ7zOcocbm6HTz46UhkcBaXY

Thanks. Didn't watch it live.

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#606 freedomfreak
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Wait, wait, wait.. Uncharted 4 has dialog options? What's the point? It looks so dumb.

Just another way of having a weird moment of silence in the middle of the conversation, because the player is reading the choices.

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#607 KungfuKitten
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Mmm. I liked the Nintendo Direct more.

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#608 bunchanumbers
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Took me a while but I finally found the presentation. I haven't watched all the cringing but if anybody missed it and wanted to cringe along feel free.

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#609 roboed
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Looks like sonys first party are making kinect like games for psvr

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#610  Edited By roboed
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Its a real role reversal between Sony and Ms this gen.

I don't think the focus on VR is going to be good for them

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#611  Edited By funkmaster1233
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@WitIsWisdom said:

The new FFVII remake ISN'T TURN BASED? What a hot steaming pile of mastodon shit..... screw that.

That's a good thing. I'm sick of remakes that only change minor things. I would prefer it if they remade FF6 into a 3D game though.

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#612 xhawk27
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Kinect might have failed in the games department but it makes a fine user interface input device.

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#613 Cloud_imperium
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Just watched the show. It was OK. Ace Combat 7, Rachet and Clank, Uncharted 4, Yakuza, NNK 2, Final Fantasy 7 and Ni-Oh looked great. Other stuff wasn't that good (except few games like Hob and stuff). VR section was terrible. I could hear few ladies saying "it's over.... it's finally over" when the show ended, lol. Overall, I think it was OK.

BTW am I the only who think Ni-Oh looks like Japanese version of The Witcher? And it's sad to see Epic wasting those amazing visuals and character models on a damn MOBA. No one cares Epic, you are late to the party.

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#614 Cloud_imperium
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@silversix_ said:

Just finished watching. Let me you, the amount of cringe my body has suffered since yesterday is unmatched since 2013 and the Bone conference. Painful days. The chick trying to sell garbage like BO3 and Battlefront made me mute her ass.

Sad to see, EA still trying hard to make Battlefront look good and shoving mediocrity down our throats with marketing stunts at PSX and TGA.

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#615 FoxbatAlpha
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So Final Fantasy Remake confirmed for Xbox One at PSX. Bu, bu, but that game won Sony's E3!!! Lulz.

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#616 TheEroica  Moderator
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There were some truly horrific sites at that conference... The fact that companies still think dressing someone up like an ass and making them wave their arms around in front of a live audience is entertainment kinda scares me... Have we learned nothing?

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#617 TheEroica  Moderator
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@freedomfreak: naughty dogs cheap attempt at replayability?

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#618 93BlackHawk93
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Did they try to force memes?

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#619 Sushiglutton
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@TheEroica said:

@freedomfreak: naughty dogs cheap attempt at replayability?

It seemed pretty pointless, but it was kind of funny how you could pick one of the three previous games to retell. I doubt dialogue choices will have any story impact, this one was just cosmetic, which is fine (Uncharted is mostly cosmetic to begin with).

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#620 Chutebox
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@xhawk27: I disagree, especially of you are using a surround sound system.

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@Cloud_imperium said:

Just watched the show. It was OK. Ace Combat 7, Rachet and Clank, Uncharted 4, Yakuza, NNK 2, Final Fantasy 7 and Ni-Oh looked great. Other stuff wasn't that good (except few games like Hob and stuff). VR section was terrible. I could hear few ladies saying "it's over.... it's finally over" when the show ended, lol. Overall, I think it was OK.

BTW am I the only who think Ni-Oh looks like Japanese version of The Witcher? And it's sad to see Epic wasting those amazing visuals and character models on a damn MOBA. No one cares Epic, you are late to the party.

No you're not the only one. It seemed like EPIC was making all the right choices. "We are working on a visually stunning UT AND the Shadow Complex Remaster all for free!....................Also, check out our MOBA." Wut.

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#622 intotheminx
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

So Final Fantasy Remake confirmed for Xbox One at PSX. Bu, bu, but that game won Sony's E3!!! Lulz.

Only the delusional Sony drones believe that. There are people at GAF who truly believe it's a Sony exclusive and are selling their propaganda to the uninformed like the Sony evangelists they are.

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#623 misterpmedia
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

So Final Fantasy Remake confirmed for NX

FTFY

;)

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#624 noeffectz
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What a garbage conference!

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#625 TheEroica  Moderator
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@Sushiglutton: indeed... Hey at the least they didn't have Nathan Drake with a huge goofy VR headset waving glowing dildos around aimlessly...

Some serious gifs coming out of that conference I feel.

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#626 Xaero_Gravity
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@intotheminx:

There's a mod there that people view as some insider, despite never giving any leaks and just spewing vague information, and they will swear up and down that it's a PS4 exclusive. Wonder how they'll spin the whole "console debut" now.

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#627 WitIsWisdom
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@funkmaster1233 said:
@WitIsWisdom said:

The new FFVII remake ISN'T TURN BASED? What a hot steaming pile of mastodon shit..... screw that.

That's a good thing. I'm sick of remakes that only change minor things. I would prefer it if they remade FF6 into a 3D game though.

3D is fine, however, a remake to me is basically giving something a new coat of paint but keeping core elements. Removing the entire basis of the game and inserting a DMC hack and slash combat system is basically removing that RPG feel for me. I loved the first 10 FF games since they were turn based, and I am a big fan of turn based RPG's where you control all your characters and are actually required to make informed decision sometimes on the fly it ATB is enabled.

To me this is a re-envisioning, and not a remake.

I don't consider this a good thing at all... I am sick of all these watered down, dumbed down, games that basically play themselves. Sometimes it is ok, but in the remake of a classic turn based RPG? ... I don't think anyone can hear me shaking my head, but I ensure you I have done my fair amount since realizing this. For fans of action games this could be cool, but long time fans of turn based RPG's? Personally I find this repulsive, and I am a fan of both genres.

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#628 R4gn4r0k
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Makes the PC conference at E3 shine

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#629 tushar172787
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No GT7/sport

No Motorstorm

No driveclub

WTF

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#630 svaubel
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So PSX is a craptastic show for the second year running...

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@Xaero_Gravity said:

@intotheminx:

There's a mod there that people view as some insider, despite never giving any leaks and just spewing vague information, and they will swear up and down that it's a PS4 exclusive. Wonder how they'll spin the whole "console debut" now.

Which one you referring to?

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#632 Heil68
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@Nike_Air said:
@clyde46 said:

Someone sum it up for me.

  1. Crash Bandicoot troll
  2. Ni No Kuni II
  3. Some Cool looking indies - Hob , Zodiac , Death's Gambit, , etc
  4. VR is the new Amiibos
  5. FF 7 Remake gameplay
  6. MLB The Show 16
  7. Yakuza 0 heading west
  8. Ace Combat 7 , vr
  9. Rez Infinite , vr
  10. Ratchet & Clank April 12th
  11. Paragon - epic games - PC / PS4

Sony probably pulled a few punches after Microsoft shit the bed at the Game Awards.

Damn, look at all those games to play! I'm going to be buried in world class gaming thanks to SONY.

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#633 BobRossPerm
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Makes the PC conference at E3 shine

You mean where the biggest announcement was that No Mans Sky is launching at the same time on PC as the PS4 version and not a few months after? Nah, I wouldn't say so.

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#634 R4gn4r0k
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@bobrossperm said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Makes the PC conference at E3 shine

You mean where the biggest announcement was that No Mans Sky is launching at the same time on PC as the PS4 version and not a few months after? Nah, I wouldn't say so.

No, actually that had a bunch of exclusive announcements like Rising Storm 2.

And even surprise announcements like Gears of War and Killer Instinct.

What, exactly, did we have here ?

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#635 Whistle_Blower
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yeah the UC4 dialogue options do seem tacked on

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#636 BobRossPerm
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@bobrossperm said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Makes the PC conference at E3 shine

You mean where the biggest announcement was that No Mans Sky is launching at the same time on PC as the PS4 version and not a few months after? Nah, I wouldn't say so.

No, actually that had a bunch of exclusive announcements like Rising Storm 2.

And even surprise announcements like Gears of War and Killer Instinct.

What, exactly, did we have here ?

Ace Combat 7 and Ni No Kuni II I think. As in significant new games not seen before. Both were horrible, but I think more excitement was raised at PSX.

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#637 vvulturas
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Makes the PC conference at E3 shine

Almost. That PC "conference" was something else...

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#639 gfxpipeline
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Oh how I love console gaming conference reaction threads. The amazing amount of wasted effort put into concern trolling and faux disappointment never gets old.

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Thank god they didn't save this for E3

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#643 SexyJazzCat
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@getyeryayasout: It wasn't cringy at all. Just very boring and not interesting.

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#645 ConanTheStoner
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After reading through the comments I thought this showing would be much worse.

I mean yeah, the cringe was incredibly strong and I'm sure I missed a lot since I just skipped around through the video.

But I also saw a handful of cool looking games that sparked my interest.

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#646  Edited By SexyJazzCat
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@getyeryayasout: I sold my PS4 a few months back, but the last time I connected to PSN was around 2 months after Bloodborn released. I'll buy another one when FFXV comes along, if it doesn't come to PC that is.

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#647  Edited By GameboyTroy
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Playlist

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLol_ykYs3OQ7zOcocbm6HTz46UhkcBaXY

LiveCasts

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLol_ykYs3OQ78Ht7sb0n2OSvbb0zmOUrR

https://www.youtube.com/user/PlayStation/featured

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#648 Chutebox
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@ConanTheStoner said:

After reading through the comments I thought this showing would be much worse.

I mean yeah, the cringe was incredibly strong and I'm sure I missed a lot since I just skipped around through the video.

But I also saw a handful of cool looking games that sparked my interest.

It's how all these shows go, including e3. They show cool/new shit in beginning. Bunch of shit in the middle. End with a couple games at the end. Not sure why everyone is surprised.

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#649 RR360DD
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Damnnn I feel bad for cows, that conference was garbage

LOL

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#650  Edited By Sollet
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@ConanTheStoner said:

After reading through the comments I thought this showing would be much worse.

I mean yeah, the cringe was incredibly strong and I'm sure I missed a lot since I just skipped around through the video.

But I also saw a handful of cool looking games that sparked my interest.

People are either fanboys or were expecting a MEGA TON or two - which didn't really happen, therefor = shit show.

Like I said earlier: It had some announcements that were interesting and some segments that were boring.