Please get it into your heads, the PS3 is NOT the only console capable of 3D

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#51 stvee101
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[QUOTE="stvee101"]

Quite frankly I haven't seen many cows say this at all. So if you guys can show me a couple of threads where more than one or two of the more rabid cows are claiming this, then I would inclined to believe you. I see this as another one of those cases where people are making mountains out of anthills.

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This thread here is a wonderful example. The OP as well as Eltormo's post should be checked out. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27398201&page=1&tag=topics%3Bpage%3B2

Sorry,but that thread does absolutely nothing to disprove my point as far as I can tell.

Maybe you could quote the posters who clearly stated that the PS3 was the only console that is capable of 3d.

P.S And the post you quoted was not by me.

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#52 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="stvee101"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="stvee101"]

Quite frankly I haven't seen many cows say this at all. So if you guys can show me a couple of threads where more than one or two of the more rabid cows are claiming this, then I would inclined to believe you. I see this as another one of those cases where people are making mountains out of anthills.

This thread here is a wonderful example. The OP as well as Eltormo's post should be checked out. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27398201&page=1&tag=topics%3Bpage%3B2

Sorry,but that thread does absolutely nothing to disprove my point as far as I can tell.

Maybe you could quote the posters who clearly stated that the PS3 was the only console that is capable of 3d.

P.S And the post you quoted was not by me.

Page 2, Eltormo's post, like I said.
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#53 catfishmoon23
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Crysis 2 is going to be in 3D on all platforms as well.

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#54 SecretPolice
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Pfft, the cows know this but what they are really saying is that only the PS3 can do 4D with dual 1080P. :twisted:

Anywho, agreed. :P

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Sigh. In comes the hard working people of SW who can't afford 3DTVs :P

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#56 Tigerrus
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Pfft, the cows know this but what they are really saying is that only the PS3 can do 4D with dual 1080P. :twisted:

Anywho, agreed. :P

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#57 stvee101
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[QUOTE="stvee101"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] This thread here is a wonderful example. The OP as well as Eltormo's post should be checked out. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27398201&page=1&tag=topics%3Bpage%3B2charizard1605

Sorry,but that thread does absolutely nothing to disprove my point as far as I can tell.

Maybe you could quote the posters who clearly stated that the PS3 was the only console that is capable of 3d.

P.S And the post you quoted was not by me.

Page 2, Eltormo's post, like I said.

Sweet one lvl 2 poster.

Yeah that really disproved my initial point.

Plus the fact that he never actually denied that the 360 or the Wii was capable of some form of 3D.

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#58 OneLazyAsian
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[QUOTE="stvee101"]

Quite frankly I haven't seen many cows say this at all. So if you guys can show me a couple of threads where more than one or two of the more rabid cows are claiming this, then I would inclined to believe you. I see this as another one of those cases where people are making mountains out of anthills.

charizard1605

This thread here is a wonderful example. The OP as well as Eltormo's post should be checked out. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27398201&page=1&tag=topics%3Bpage%3B2

So you made one whole thread to show one rabid cow that he's wrong? My point has been proven.... There were no cows, just one cow and he somehow got under your skin...

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#59 JLF1
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It doesn't really matter if previous systems could do it like they Gamecube if they never used it.

The only thing that matters is if you actually use it. Sony has been pushing 3D as the next big thing extremely strong for the last two years. Now Sony is obviously not the only one doing it but they are the one that is currently pushing it the most to the public.

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#60 stvee101
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It doesn't really matter if previous systems could do it like they Gamecube if they never used it.

The only thing that matters is if you actually use it. Sony has been pushing 3D as the next big thing extremely strong for the last two years. Now Sony is obviously not the only one doing it but they are the one that is currently pushing it the most to the public.

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100% agreed.

But according to the TC there were all these ignorant PS3 owners who thought the PS3 was the ONLY console to be able to do 3d.

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#61 delta3074
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="stvee101"]

But whats that got to do with the title of this thread then??

stvee101

The cows act as if a) The PS3 is the only console that can do 3D (incorrect) b) The PS3 is conclusiovely more powerful than the 360 because it can do 3D and the 360 cannot (also wrong)

I'll give you b)...just.

But as for a), I've never seen anyone suggest PS3 is the only console that can do 3D,(which as your title suggest was the reason for this thread).Only that Sony is the only ones pushing this technology.

Maybe you could provide a link? :)

just check out every thread by dragonbbot,lol
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#62 stvee101
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[QUOTE="stvee101"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] The cows act as if a) The PS3 is the only console that can do 3D (incorrect) b) The PS3 is conclusiovely more powerful than the 360 because it can do 3D and the 360 cannot (also wrong)delta3074

I'll give you b)...just.

But as for a), I've never seen anyone suggest PS3 is the only console that can do 3D,(which as your title suggest was the reason for this thread).Only that Sony is the only ones pushing this technology.

Maybe you could provide a link? :)

just check out every thread by dragonbbot,lol

Never heard of him.

But the way you described it suggest hes some sort of rabid fanboy/troll.Which doesn't exactly support the TC's point of their being all these PS3 owners who act like the PS3 is the only console to support 3d.

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[QUOTE="stvee101"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="stvee101"]

I'll give you b)...just.

But as for a), I've never seen anyone suggest PS3 is the only console that can do 3D,(which as your title suggest was the reason for this thread).Only that Sony is the only ones pushing this technology.

Maybe you could provide a link? :)

just check out every thread by dragonbbot,lol

Never heard of him.

But the way you described it suggest hes some sort of rabid fanboy/troll.Which doesn't exactly support the TC's point of their being all these PS3 owners who act like the PS3 is the only console to support 3d.

it is essentially these fanboys whom I hope to respond to with my thread.
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as long as the 360 can't do it, ps3 gamers will claim ownage. Kind of like how 360 gamers claim 'console exclusivity' for games
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#65 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="stvee101"]

I'll give you b)...just.

But as for a), I've never seen anyone suggest PS3 is the only console that can do 3D,(which as your title suggest was the reason for this thread).Only that Sony is the only ones pushing this technology.

Maybe you could provide a link? :)

stvee101

just check out every thread by dragonbbot,lol

Never heard of him.

But the way you described it suggest hes some sort of rabid fanboy/troll.Which doesn't exactly support the TC's point of their being all these PS3 owners who act like the PS3 is the only console to support 3d.

i have seen plenty of people claim the 360 was incapable of 3D, as i myself have used james camerons avatar to prove otherwise on several occasions, if you just want to nitpick then fine, have fun with that.
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#66 stvee101
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[QUOTE="stvee101"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]just check out every thread by dragonbbot,lolcharizard1605

Never heard of him.

But the way you described it suggest hes some sort of rabid fanboy/troll.Which doesn't exactly support the TC's point of their being all these PS3 owners who act like the PS3 is the only console to support 3d.

it is essentially these fanboys whom I hope to respond to with my thread.

So you created a thread just to prove a couple of trolls and mis-informed fanboys wrong then???

Gotcha.

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as long as the 360 can't do it, ps3 gamers will claim ownage. Kind of like how 360 gamers claim 'console exclusivity' for gamesGunSmith1_basic
And yet, the 360 CAN do 3D. See the original post, I already addressed this there.
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Well, it is true that the 360 can do 3D, as various developers like Crytek have said. However, the catch is that the dvd format limits the marketability of 3D on the xbox 360. To my knowledge, ps3 compatible 3D titles will actually contain 2 games on the same disc--the 2D and the 3D version. Not only that but xbox is yet to put out a game with such stunning visuals like Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2.

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[QUOTE="stvee101"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="stvee101"]

Never heard of him.

But the way you described it suggest hes some sort of rabid fanboy/troll.Which doesn't exactly support the TC's point of their being all these PS3 owners who act like the PS3 is the only console to support 3d.

it is essentially these fanboys whom I hope to respond to with my thread.

So you created a thread just to prove a couple of trolls and mis-informed fanboys wrong then???

Gotcha.

Yes. And to get the word out as well. Nice to know we're on the same wavelength.
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Well, it is true that the 360 can do 3D, as various developers like Crytek have said. However, the catch is that the dvd format limits the marketability of 3D on the xbox 360. To my knowledge, ps3 compatible 3D titles will actually contain 2 games on the same disc--the 2D and the 3D version. Not only that but xbox is yet to put out a game with such stunning visuals like Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2.

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The 360 in fact already has a 3D game: last year's James Cameron's Avatar was 3D on the Xbox 360.
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I didn't see a lot of claims on SW that PS3 was the only console that can do 3D, I mean SW is aware of the 3DS right? I do know that PS3 has been pushing 3D the most though.
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isn't 3D on the 360 way more limited though because of disc space?
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I didn't see a lot of claims on SW that PS3 was the only console that can do 3D, I mean SW is aware of the 3DS right? I do know that PS3 has been pushing 3D the most though.FIipMode
I'm talking about CONSOLE 3D. There's a lot of that going on around here.
isn't 3D on the 360 way more limited though because of disc space?GunSmith1_basic
Not really. The 3D effect itself doesn't exactly take all that much space.
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isn't 3D on the 360 way more limited though because of disc space?GunSmith1_basic
storage medium has nothing to do with graphics.
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I didn't see a lot of claims on SW that PS3 was the only console that can do 3D, I mean SW is aware of the 3DS right? I do know that PS3 has been pushing 3D the most though.FIipMode

This thread is to inform a nearly non-existant race of cows (which, the few who do exist, I highly doubt will read this thread anyways) and to keep future cows from doing the same (which I see no point as this thread probably will not be here in future to persuade rabid fanboys from being rabid).

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this is true.

though i still haven't seen a lot of people boasting about how only the ps3 can do 3d though, or did i miss a massive thread on it?

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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]I didn't see a lot of claims on SW that PS3 was the only console that can do 3D, I mean SW is aware of the 3DS right? I do know that PS3 has been pushing 3D the most though.OneLazyAsian

This thread is to inform a nearly non-existant race of cows (which, the few who do exist, I highly doubt will read this thread anyways) and to keep future cows from doing the same (which I see no point as this thread probably will not be here in future to persuade rabid fanboys from being rabid).

Don't worry, I'll link to it :)
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]I didn't see a lot of claims on SW that PS3 was the only console that can do 3D, I mean SW is aware of the 3DS right? I do know that PS3 has been pushing 3D the most though.charizard1605
I'm talking about CONSOLE 3D. There's a lot of that going on around here.

A lot? I really must have missed all that in SW, you have any examples handy :)
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]I didn't see a lot of claims on SW that PS3 was the only console that can do 3D, I mean SW is aware of the 3DS right? I do know that PS3 has been pushing 3D the most though.FIipMode
I'm talking about CONSOLE 3D. There's a lot of that going on around here.

A lot? I really must have missed all that in SW, you have any examples handy :)

Linked above. Essentially, any thread by dragonboot (that's his name, right) is example enough :P
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]I didn't see a lot of claims on SW that PS3 was the only console that can do 3D, I mean SW is aware of the 3DS right? I do know that PS3 has been pushing 3D the most though.OneLazyAsian

This thread is to inform a nearly non-existant race of cows (which, the few who do exist, I highly doubt will read this thread anyways) and to keep future cows from doing the same (which I see no point as this thread probably will not be here in future to persuade rabid fanboys from being rabid).

I just hope this isn't one of those situations where low level fanboys and fakeboys are taken seriously, it happens far too much on SW.
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

I didn't see a lot of claims on SW that PS3 was the only console that can do 3D, I mean SW is aware of the 3DS right? I do know that PS3 has been pushing 3D the most though.FIipMode

This thread is to inform a nearly non-existant race of cows (which, the few who do exist, I highly doubt will read this thread anyways) and to keep future cows from doing the same (which I see no point as this thread probably will not be here in future to persuade rabid fanboys from being rabid).

I just hope this isn't one of those situations where low level fanboys and fakeboys are taken seriously, it happens far too much on SW.

I... think that's what I've done this time as well. :|
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]isn't 3D on the 360 way more limited though because of disc space?delta3074
storage medium has nothing to do with graphics.

i thought because it had to be displayed twice. The dvd version of avatar is already bare of special features to make room for the picture and sound boosts, and so I can't imagine a full quality 3D dvd to be possible. Meanwhile 3D movies released on bluray are coming. Games do'n't have the same rules?
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According to AVGN the NES was capable of 3d. :P
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]isn't 3D on the 360 way more limited though because of disc space?GunSmith1_basic
storage medium has nothing to do with graphics.

i thought because it had to be displayed twice. The dvd version of avatar is already bare of special features to make room for the picture and sound boosts, and so I can't imagine a full quality 3D dvd to be possible. Meanwhile 3D movies released on bluray are coming. Games do'n't have the same rules?

The DVD version of Avatar is barebones for now, but a special edition will be releasing later this year. Space has nothing to do with it. Essentially, you can think of 3D (games) as an added layer on top of the existing 2D game, that don't hog much space to begin with.
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[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]I didn't see a lot of claims on SW that PS3 was the only console that can do 3D, I mean SW is aware of the 3DS right? I do know that PS3 has been pushing 3D the most though.charizard1605

This thread is to inform a nearly non-existant race of cows (which, the few who do exist, I highly doubt will read this thread anyways) and to keep future cows from doing the same (which I see no point as this thread probably will not be here in future to persuade rabid fanboys from being rabid).

Don't worry, I'll link to it :)

And I hope this time you can link me to some thread with cows (hopefully a few this time and definitely more than a single cow please). I'm heading off to my classes in a bit so I will come back in the afternoon to see the fruits of searches.

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According to AVGN the NES was capable of 3d. :PMessiahbolical-
Exactly my point, that's what I've written in the OP as well.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

This thread is to inform a nearly non-existant race of cows (which, the few who do exist, I highly doubt will read this thread anyways) and to keep future cows from doing the same (which I see no point as this thread probably will not be here in future to persuade rabid fanboys from being rabid).

OneLazyAsian

Don't worry, I'll link to it :)

And I hope this time you can link me to some thread with cows (hopefully a few this time and definitely more than a single cow please). I'm heading off to my classes in a bit so I will come back in the afternoon to see the fruits of searches.

Like I said, dragonboot threads. I'll link to a couple of 'em.

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Its not a matter of who can do it.

Its a matter of who can do it best

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[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

This thread is to inform a nearly non-existant race of cows (which, the few who do exist, I highly doubt will read this thread anyways) and to keep future cows from doing the same (which I see no point as this thread probably will not be here in future to persuade rabid fanboys from being rabid).

charizard1605

I just hope this isn't one of those situations where low level fanboys and fakeboys are taken seriously, it happens far too much on SW.

I... think that's what I've done this time as well. :|

Meh, it happens :P

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Hold on a second. Let's be absolutely clear, the curent active shutter 3D solutions requires a 120Hz television to display images properly. And almost all of these 120Hz televisions require the use of an HDMI input in order to display any content in stereoscopic 3D. The Wii, and the Gamecube for that matter, are simply not compatible with current 3D televisions. In addition, the 3D solution used before the advent of current 120Hz 3D TVs (and 3D monitors) was subpar and terrible, which is why Nintendo never used it.

The Xbox 360, on the other hand, is compatible with current 3D TVs except for the old models which lack an HDMI output. The 360 should only need a firmware upgrade to 'act' as an HDMI 1.4a source -- ie. support the mandatory 3D signal formats, frame packing at 1080p/24 (for movies) and 720p/60 or 720p/50 ( for games) and communicate with TVs in this signal format. Until such time that it does, however, developers will have to handle 3D output on their own, as Avatar did, which is a royal pain.

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Everybody round these parts knows that the PC and the 3DS both are also capable of stereoscopic 3D. However, most people here seem to mistakenly believe that the PS3 is the first and only console capable of 3D gaming.

Understand this: this is wrong.
The PS3 is not the first games console to do 3D, nor is it the only one.

The first game console that could display stereoscopic 3D was the NES, with several Square published games that could display stereoscopic 3D.

Games such as Rad Racer and 3-D World Runner, both on the NES, were stereoscopic 3D.

Last generation, the Gamecube was fully 3D compatible. However, it never had a 3D game release, so the 3D compatibility was never exploited.

This generation, all three home consoles are 3D compatible. The Wii retains the Gamecube's 3D compatibility, the Xbox 360 is stereoscopic 3D compatible. It's already gotten the first stereoscopic 3D console game this generation, James Cameron's Avatar, and it's getting another one: Saint's Row Drive By. Finally, the PS3 is, as everybody knows, 3D compatible.

Hopefully, this knowledge shall stop PS3 fanboys from insinuating that the PS3 is the first console that can do 3D, or the only one, and that the future of gaming, in the form of 3D, can only be enjoyed on the PS3, because all of that is utter bullcrap. All three home consoles are 3D compatible, and the only reason we hear so much about the PS3's 3D compatibility is because Sony is giving 3D gaming a huge push, if only to sell their 3DTV's.

charizard1605

Even the 360 does 3D, they had some games at E3 running in 3D on the 360.

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[QUOTE="hayato_"]

Its not a matter of who can do it.

Its a matter of who can do it best

And what proof do we have that Sony does it best?Personally I would be inclined to think that Nintendo is doing it best. [QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

Hold on a second. Let's be absolutely clear, the curent active shutter 3D solutions requires a 120Hz television to display images properly. And almost all of these 120Hz televisions require the use of an HDMI input in order to display any content in stereoscopic 3D. The Wii, and the Gamecube for that matter, are simply not compatible with current 3D televisions. In addition, the 3D solution used before the advent of current 120Hz 3D TVs (and 3D monitors) was subpar and terrible, which is why Nintendo never used it.

The Xbox 360, on the other hand, is compatible with current 3D TVs except for the old models which lack an HDMI output. The 360 should only need a firmware upgrade to 'act' as an HDMI 1.4a source -- ie. support the mandatory 3D signal formats, frame packing at 1080p/24 (for movies) and 720p/60 or 720p/50 ( for games) and communicate with TVs in this signal format. Until such time that it does, however, developers will have to handle 3D output on their own.

See the link, The GCN WAS stereoscopic 3D compatible, although it might have used a different technique.
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#93 hayato_
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[QUOTE="hayato_"]

Its not a matter of who can do it.

Its a matter of who can do it best

charizard1605

And what proof do we have that Sony does it best?Personally I would be inclined to think that Nintendo is doing it best.

Hold on a second. Let's be absolutely clear, the curent active shutter 3D solutions requires a 120Hz television to display images properly. And almost all of these 120Hz televisions require the use of an HDMI input in order to display any content in stereoscopic 3D. The Wii, and the Gamecube for that matter, are simply not compatible with current 3D televisions. In addition, the 3D solution used before the advent of current 120Hz 3D TVs (and 3D monitors) was subpar and terrible, which is why Nintendo never used it.

The Xbox 360, on the other hand, is compatible with current 3D TVs except for the old models which lack an HDMI output. The 360 should only need a firmware upgrade to 'act' as an HDMI 1.4a source -- ie. support the mandatory 3D signal formats, frame packing at 1080p/24 (for movies) and 720p/60 or 720p/50 ( for games) and communicate with TVs in this signal format. Until such time that it does, however, developers will have to handle 3D output on their own.

SakusEnvoy

See the link, The GCN WAS stereoscopic 3D compatible, although it might have used a different technique.

Who said I was applying that Sony does it best:|

Also, for argument SW standards, people are gonna be surprised with the 3DS's 3D tech. The fact that you have to be in the right position to even get the full effect might be a little "concerning" to say the least.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="FIipMode"] I just hope this isn't one of those situations where low level fanboys and fakeboys are taken seriously, it happens far too much on SW.FIipMode

I... think that's what I've done this time as well. :|

Meh, it happens :P

It makes me feel like a fool though :( :P
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[QUOTE="hayato_"]

Its not a matter of who can do it.

Its a matter of who can do it best

charizard1605

And what proof do we have that Sony does it best?Personally I would be inclined to think that Nintendo is doing it best.

Hold on a second. Let's be absolutely clear, the curent active shutter 3D solutions requires a 120Hz television to display images properly. And almost all of these 120Hz televisions require the use of an HDMI input in order to display any content in stereoscopic 3D. The Wii, and the Gamecube for that matter, are simply not compatible with current 3D televisions. In addition, the 3D solution used before the advent of current 120Hz 3D TVs (and 3D monitors) was subpar and terrible, which is why Nintendo never used it.

The Xbox 360, on the other hand, is compatible with current 3D TVs except for the old models which lack an HDMI output. The 360 should only need a firmware upgrade to 'act' as an HDMI 1.4a source -- ie. support the mandatory 3D signal formats, frame packing at 1080p/24 (for movies) and 720p/60 or 720p/50 ( for games) and communicate with TVs in this signal format. Until such time that it does, however, developers will have to handle 3D output on their own.

SakusEnvoy

See the link, The GCN WAS stereoscopic 3D compatible, although it might have used a different technique.

I'm familiar with the link... it doesn't change the fact that you cannot run 3D on a 60 Hz display without having an incredible amount of flicker completely ruin the 3D experience. The current method of acheiving 3D shouldn't be compared with the terrible earlier methods, and the Wii (and Gamecube) do not support stereoscopic 3D on 120Hz displays...

There is a reason why it was never used.

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what?i dont remember anyone ever claiming that
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Who said I was applying that Sony does it best:|

Also, for argument SW standards, people are gonna be surprised with the 3DS's 3D tech. The fact that you have to be in the right position to even get the full effect might be a little "concerning" to say the least.

hayato_

Sorry, I thought you were :P And anyway, all those who've gone hands on with the system claim that there's no issue with the 3DS, since the 'sweet spot' is actually generously large, so unless you're on board a madly bucking bull, you should be fine :P

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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I... think that's what I've done this time as well. :|charizard1605

Meh, it happens :P

It makes me feel like a fool though :( :P

It happens to the best of us, just take your mistakes and learn from em :P
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Everybody round these parts knows that the PC and the 3DS both are also capable of stereoscopic 3D. However, most people here seem to mistakenly believe that the PS3 is the first and only console capable of 3D gaming.

Understand this: this is wrong.
The PS3 is not the first games console to do 3D, nor is it the only one.

The first game console that could display stereoscopic 3D was the NES, with several Square published games that could display stereoscopic 3D.

Games such as Rad Racer and 3-D World Runner, both on the NES, were stereoscopic 3D.

Last generation, the Gamecube was fully 3D compatible. However, it never had a 3D game release, so the 3D compatibility was never exploited.

This generation, all three home consoles are 3D compatible. The Wii retains the Gamecube's 3D compatibility, the Xbox 360 is stereoscopic 3D compatible. It's already gotten the first stereoscopic 3D console game this generation, James Cameron's Avatar, and it's getting another one: Saint's Row Drive By. Finally, the PS3 is, as everybody knows, 3D compatible.

Hopefully, this knowledge shall stop PS3 fanboys from insinuating that the PS3 is the first console that can do 3D, or the only one, and that the future of gaming, in the form of 3D, can only be enjoyed on the PS3, because all of that is utter bullcrap. All three home consoles are 3D compatible, and the only reason we hear so much about the PS3's 3D compatibility is because Sony is giving 3D gaming a huge push, if only to sell their 3DTV's.

charizard1605

irrelevent, for me the choice is between the ps3 and xbox so that means that the ps3 will be my 3d console.

stereoscopic means to me red/green and i won't touch it.

if the 360 comes out with an update to use my tv's glasses then fine but otherwise this is a race ms is not even competeing in.

shockingly enough i may.... begin.... to.... omg... get multiplats on ps3.... mind blowing stuff right there.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="hayato_"] And what proof do we have that Sony does it best?Personally I would be inclined to think that Nintendo is doing it best. [QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

Hold on a second. Let's be absolutely clear, the curent active shutter 3D solutions requires a 120Hz television to display images properly. And almost all of these 120Hz televisions require the use of an HDMI input in order to display any content in stereoscopic 3D. The Wii, and the Gamecube for that matter, are simply not compatible with current 3D televisions. In addition, the 3D solution used before the advent of current 120Hz 3D TVs (and 3D monitors) was subpar and terrible, which is why Nintendo never used it.

The Xbox 360, on the other hand, is compatible with current 3D TVs except for the old models which lack an HDMI output. The 360 should only need a firmware upgrade to 'act' as an HDMI 1.4a source -- ie. support the mandatory 3D signal formats, frame packing at 1080p/24 (for movies) and 720p/60 or 720p/50 ( for games) and communicate with TVs in this signal format. Until such time that it does, however, developers will have to handle 3D output on their own.

SakusEnvoy

See the link, The GCN WAS stereoscopic 3D compatible, although it might have used a different technique.

I'm familiar with the link... it doesn't change the fact that you cannot run 3D on a 60 Hz display without having an incredible amount of flicker completely ruin the 3D experience. The current method of acheiving 3D shouldn't be compared with the terrible earlier methods, and the Wii (and Gamecube) do not support stereoscopic 3D on 120Hz displays...

There is a reason why it was never used.

Listen to yourself talk man....The current method is an advancement of the ealier methods just a different Hz frequency. 3D was capable back then as it is now. The method of HOW it is applied is relevance. The only reason why they use 120 hz is to project the image for the stupid glasses to pick up the imagery.