please, Killzone 2's been long forgotten; stop bringing it up...(56Killz0wn3d)

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#151 deactivated-6079d224de716
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Right, so having uber pretty graphics is most important? I really don't think so, if graphics were so important to people we would be seeing much more sales in terms of Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2, and larger ongoing popularity when it comes to their online components. Unfortunately, thats not the case. My point is, a game doesn't need to have "the best" graphics to be a success, it can be just a great, and perform just as well with good graphics. Anjunaddict
Those who say that KZ2 is all about graphics haven't played it obviously. And judging from the sales and ongoing popularity it seem that people prefer easy and accessible shooters. KZ2 unfortunately demands too much skill for today's kids to handle.
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#152 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Right, so having uber pretty graphics is most important? I really don't think so, if graphics were so important to people we would be seeing much more sales in terms of Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2, and larger ongoing popularity when it comes to their online components. Unfortunately, thats not the case. My point is, a game doesn't need to have "the best" graphics to be a success, it can be just a great, and perform just as well with good graphics. Orchid87
Those who say that KZ2 is all about graphics haven't played it obviously. And judging from the sales and ongoing popularity it seem that people prefer easy and accessible shooters. KZ2 unfortunately demands too much skill for today's kids to handle.

Im not saying its all about the graphics, and I have played it (thought admittedly i havent finished it yet, i found it boring) But you've just proved my point when you say people prefer easy and accessible shooters. That may or may not be the case, but it does to show people play a game based on the gameplay, and not how pretty it looks.
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#153 deactivated-6079d224de716
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[QUOTE="Orchid87"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Right, so having uber pretty graphics is most important? I really don't think so, if graphics were so important to people we would be seeing much more sales in terms of Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2, and larger ongoing popularity when it comes to their online components. Unfortunately, thats not the case. My point is, a game doesn't need to have "the best" graphics to be a success, it can be just a great, and perform just as well with good graphics. Anjunaddict
Those who say that KZ2 is all about graphics haven't played it obviously. And judging from the sales and ongoing popularity it seem that people prefer easy and accessible shooters. KZ2 unfortunately demands too much skill for today's kids to handle.

Im not saying its all about the graphics, and I have played it (thought admittedly i havent finished it yet, i found it boring) But you've just proved my point when you say people prefer easy and accessible shooters. That may or may not be the case, but it does to show people play a game based on the gameplay, and not how pretty it looks.

I agree on this.
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#154 urdead18
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LOL @ some of the responses to this thread.

Killzone 2 looks and plays incredible and is AAAE.

Waaaahh the motion blur waahhhh the scripted events...give me a break. The game's got 350 light sources in one scene and is 2nd in terms of console graphics king(1st being UC2).

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#155 205212669269561485377169522720
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Reach doesn't need to, it will still probably outperform Killzone 2 in the areas that matter (sales, critical acclaim, ongoing online popularity)Anjunaddict

Online okay but sales and critical acclaim matter when your playing a game?:P I understand graphics to some point since I actually like to play good looking games as well lol.

Reach will do good, I will definetely play it.

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#156 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Reach doesn't need to, it will still probably outperform Killzone 2 in the areas that matter (sales, critical acclaim, ongoing online popularity)sanim02

Online okay but sales and critical acclaim matter when your playing a game?:P I understand graphics to some point since I actually like to play good looking games as well lol.

Reach will do good, I will definetely play it.

When i said critical acclaim, i was more talking about the game being good. Reach will be awesome (without being the graphics king), and critical acclaim will be a by-product of that.
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#157 mr-krinkles
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HELL NO!!...

killzone 2

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Wat? What is that?

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#158 deactivated-6079d224de716
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Wat? What is that?

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#159 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Outside of graphics it was a pretty dirivitive shooter, though its multiplayer Warzone idea was quite interesting.
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#160 Mr_Ditters
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Its a great game. GG just screwed up the matchmaking part of multiplayer and there isnt enough customization or weapons and no hardcore mode. Oh and lag. Otherwise it would have been the best ever.

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#161 AgentA-Mi6
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Oh boy, and I think they'll announce Killzone 3 at E3, imagine the screenshot wars once again from the beginning of each games development cycle :lol:
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#162 deactivated-6079d224de716
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Its a great game. GG just screwed up the matchmaking part of multiplayer and there isnt enough customization or weapons and no hardcore mode. Oh and lag. Otherwise it would have been the best ever.

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Why the hell there should be any weapon customization? It's not a CoD game. Also server browser > matchmaking IMO.
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#163 swamplord666
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it's still a fantastic game :) The single player, while fun, is laughable in the story department. On the other hand, the multiplayer is still amazing! I hope more devs take on the warzone match format. But yeah, It's guaranteed that Halo Reach will be more critically acclaimed and have a stronger community. In the graphics department, we'll have to see...

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#164 swamplord666
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[QUOTE="Mr_Ditters"]

Its a great game. GG just screwed up the matchmaking part of multiplayer and there isnt enough customization or weapons and no hardcore mode. Oh and lag. Otherwise it would have been the best ever.

Orchid87

Why the hell there should be any weapon customization? It's not a CoD game. Also server browser > matchmaking IMO.

it's a class based game so customization would not make a whole lot of sense. Also I do believe there is a hardcore mode with no hud, no reticle and manual reloads. (not sure though)

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#165 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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All I see are scripted event, static lighting, a non-existant color palette, enough blur to give anyone motion sickness, and enemies flailing around like idiots when they get shot.

Uncharted 2 creams it. I never saw the appeal of KZ2's graphics.

Vaasman

what else are you meant to do when you get shot and die?

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#166 Tessellation
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And too bad while the game looks good it doesn't look as good as these small gifs,hiding for example the low resolution textures
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#167 Midnightshade29
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killzone 2 is a garbage of a game. no1 plays it. so who cares

Revolution316

What now that you switched sides, your going to become a typical lemming and bash ps3 games and over-rate halo? I guess so. I am sure you were praising these games before you moved allegiances. Wow you even have the typical halo loving lemming bashes "no one plays it , like they do halo" rant that halo fans spew out whenever talking about kz2, i guess the assimilation process is complete?

KZ2 is a fantastic game and has been praised by many many people.... And its still played. If you go on to the game there are full matches at any time of day . It's a great game that deserves more love.

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#168 FIipMode
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And too bad while the game looks good it doesn't look as good as these small gifs,hiding for example the low resolution texturesTessellation
I'm just going to quote myself from earlier in this thread.
http://www.psu.com/media/killzone-project-/killzone-project--ss-142.jpgout to bhttp://www.psu.com/media/killzone-project-/killzone-project--ss-177.jpge.http://media.psu.com/media/killzone_wall_01.jpg

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#169 Tessellation
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I'm just going to quote myself from earlier in this threadFIipMode
Post direct feed screenshots,not resized off-screen shots,i have the game i know how it looks like.
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#170 racing1750
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Yep it's a beautiful game.
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#171 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]I'm just going to quote myself from earlier in this threadTessellation
Post direct feed screenshots,not resized off-screen shots,i have the game i know how it looks like.

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5859/tst3eq1.jpg

Better?

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#172 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Mr_Ditters"]

Its a great game. GG just screwed up the matchmaking part of multiplayer and there isnt enough customization or weapons and no hardcore mode. Oh and lag. Otherwise it would have been the best ever.

Orchid87
Why the hell there should be any weapon customization? It's not a CoD game. Also server browser > matchmaking IMO.

I think they need to work on the weapon feel and add some more weapons. I found myself using the same two weapons the whole time.
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#173 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

All I see are scripted event, static lighting, a non-existant color palette, enough blur to give anyone motion sickness, and enemies flailing around like idiots when they get shot.

Uncharted 2 creams it. I never saw the appeal of KZ2's graphics.

toast_burner

what else are you meant to do when you get shot and die?

Jumping jacks, you didn't know that's what happens?
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#175 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]I'm just going to quote myself from earlier in this threadFIipMode
Post direct feed screenshots,not resized off-screen shots,i have the game i know how it looks like.

Better?

I don't know what are you trying to prove me,i said the game looks good just that textures are really low re,that screenshot didn't help much.
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#176 mr-krinkles
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[QUOTE="mr-krinkles"]

Wat? What is that?

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O I c. I've never used Engineer properly. 95% of the time I use Tactician, but in Body Count I'll sometimes switch to the normal soldier and use the StA-3 LMG 8)

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#177 deactivated-6079d224de716
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O I c. I've never used Engineer properly. 95% of the time I use Tactician, but in Body Count I'll sometimes switch to the normal soldier and use the StA-3 LMG 8)

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#178 Epak_
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

All I see are scripted event, static lighting, a non-existant color palette, enough blur to give anyone motion sickness, and enemies flailing around like idiots when they get shot.

Uncharted 2 creams it. I never saw the appeal of KZ2's graphics.

toast_burner

what else are you meant to do when you get shot and die?

They're supposed to take it like a MAN damn it!

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#179 Jipset
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killzone 2 is a garbage of a game. no1 plays it. so who cares

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A garbage of a game? What are you, Italian? :P
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#180 haze_blaze
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killzone 2 is a garbage of a game. no1 plays it. so who cares

Revolution316

Lol, yea okay... you just keep on telling yourself that ;). Nevermind the fact that it already achieved AAA status and still has a large online community!!!

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#181 Jipset
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

All I see are scripted event, static lighting, a non-existant color palette, enough blur to give anyone motion sickness, and enemies flailing around like idiots when they get shot.

Uncharted 2 creams it. I never saw the appeal of KZ2's graphics.

toast_burner

what else are you meant to do when you get shot and die?

Stand still and jerk your head back like in kawd. lol
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] Post direct feed screenshots,not resized off-screen shots,i have the game i know how it looks like.Tessellation
Better?

I don't know what are you trying to prove me,i said the game looks good just that textures are really low re,that screenshot didn't help much.

Yeah whatever, nice talkin to ya.
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#183 swamplord666
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]Better?FIipMode
I don't know what are you trying to prove me,i said the game looks good just that textures are really low re,that screenshot didn't help much.

Yeah whatever, nice talkin to ya.

You would have been better talking to your wall for the afternoon ;)

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#184 mirriorman
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eh halo>killzone gameplay term

and haloreach=killzone graphics

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#185 tehsystemwarior
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Was your goal to break my computer?
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#186 deactivated-6079d224de716
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eh halo>killzone gameplay term

and haloreach=killzone graphics

mirriorman
The first claim is subjective so don't forget a bold IMO next time. The second claim is plain wrong, just face the facts and deal with it.
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#187 Gamingcucumber
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Wow, it's funny how people got so impressed by this game by graphics alone, now about a year later they are already looking like nothing special. To me a gorgeus game is Wind Waker.
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#188 toxicmog
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it is all one colour :S Artistic direction = fail
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#189 mirriorman
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[QUOTE="mirriorman"]

eh halo>killzone gameplay term

and haloreach=killzone graphics

Orchid87

The first claim is subjective so don't forget a bold IMO next time. The second claim is plain wrong, just face the facts and deal with it.

oops i'm been comparing bullshots again :oops:

still halo has a more divirse color range than killzone2

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#190 deactivated-6079d224de716
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still halo has a more divirse color range than killzone2mirriorman

Fair enough :)

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#191 Innovazero2000
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[QUOTE="mirriorman"]

eh halo>killzone gameplay term

and haloreach=killzone graphics

Orchid87
The first claim is subjective so don't forget a bold IMO next time. The second claim is plain wrong, just face the facts and deal with it.

How is it fact? Unless you understand the technology behind both games, you can't make such an statement. The Technology in both games (and like UC2) is very impressive given the age of the consoles. both excel in different ways, and reach isn't close to being released. Don't think im putting you in this category, but too many times in System wars do people claim such and such just because they are so bias, and yet have no clue what is going on behind it. While I agree the ps3 as a whole is a little more powerful then the 360, its not so much more powerful that it destroys anything the 360 puts out...sony simply has some very impressive programmers. In my opinion games like Alan Wake or Metro 2033 for example has every right to be in the same breath as KZ2 or UC2. The Cryengine game on both im sure will be fairly close, and what im seeing of reach is promising given the pre-alpha/alpha nature.
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#192 ZippySlappy
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Greyzone 2?
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#193 ermacness
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killzone 2 is a garbage of a game. no1 plays it. so who cares

Revolution316

i wasn't aware that a 9.0 rating represents "garbage". In that case, ME2 is "garbage"