PS Vita gets slaughtered in France

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#101 Famiking
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[QUOTE="brofists"] You were very d*ickish and argumentative in your response to me. Are you really suprised you got it back in return? You got to be crazy lol. Anyway, Its just something i read, and if I come across the link again, I'll post it. So chill:)

How was my reply dickish? I only indirectly asked for a link and my reply had very little to do with you. My apologies, but in all honestly you sound very hyper defensive. That, or I struck a nerve.
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#102 brofists
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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="brofists"] You were very d*ickish and argumentative in your response to me. Are you really suprised you got it back in return? You got to be crazy lol. Anyway, Its just something i read, and if I come across the link again, I'll post it. So chill:)

How was my reply dickish? I only indirectly asked for a link and my reply had very little to do with you. My apologies, but in all honestly you sound very hyper defensive. That, or I struck a nerve.

You basically said ...yeah sure, because "all Vita games look mediocre " Its clear what you were intending when you threw that comment in there. And secondly, you haven't played any of the games to make a fair judgment. By assuming ALL the games are mediocre, you are being very ignorant. But like I said, I will try to find the link , and re-post it for you, so just chill out
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#103 Famiking
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[QUOTE="brofists"] You basically said ...yeah sure, because "all Vita games look mediocre " Its clear what you were intending when you threw that comment in there. And secondly, you haven't played any of the games to make a fair judgment. By assuming ALL the games are mediocre, you are being very ignorant. But like I said, I will try to find the link , and re-post ot, so just chill out

I'm sorry if you took offence to that comment, but it wasn't meant for you or to annoy you. I was speaking my mind.
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#104 PC4lifeman2233
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#105 HaloPimp978
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I guess the PSV is flopping in EU now.

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#106 xXShortroundXx
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Give it time. I'm sure the PS3 didn't go so well all over the world when it launched. Vita is in a similar price bracket. It just came out really, so I'm geussing sales will only pick up.

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#107 quebec946
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how many ipads were solds?

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#108 XenogearsMaster
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How do we even know if that figure is accurate?
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#109 SuperFlakeman
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Sony needs to do something, and fast.

charizard1605

I hate this mentality. There is nothing they can realistically do considering the circumstances. A pricecut won't have any long term effect.

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#110 deactivated-59d151f079814
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... Lets go see the system is even MORE expensive then the 3ds was at launch.. Because Sony in their genious and greed have forced upon users to buy a memory chip ON top of the $250.. Furthermore what makes matters worse is Sony in their greed decided to make their own memory cards instead of using SD cards which basically has allowed them to rip off consumers.
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#111 SuperFlakeman
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I read that the Vita launced with the highest rated launch line up of any past console or hand held (according to MC) I thought that was interesting.brofists

Yeah, the lineup is also western centric.

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#112 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="metal_zombie"]

perhaps this proof that handheld gaming is dying

BPoole96

Fixed But even still, the 3DS has had better success worldwide, but Nintendo pretty much owns the dedicated gaming handheld market.

This is another funny argument.

"It's Mario, ofc it sells"

"It's a Nintendo handheld, ofc it sells"

No

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#113 babycakin
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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="brofists"] You were very d*ickish and argumentative in your response to me. Are you really suprised you got it back in return? You got to be crazy lol. Anyway, Its just something i read, and if I come across the link again, I'll post it. So chill:)brofists
How was my reply dickish? I only indirectly asked for a link and my reply had very little to do with you. My apologies, but in all honestly you sound very hyper defensive. That, or I struck a nerve.

You basically said ...yeah sure, because "all Vita games look mediocre " Its clear what you were intending when you threw that comment in there. And secondly, you haven't played any of the games to make a fair judgment. By assuming ALL the games are mediocre, you are being very ignorant. But like I said, I will try to find the link , and re-post it for you, so just chill out

This thread was pretty informative about Vita's situation in France and even several cows acknowledged that but are happy regardless with the Vita. For some reason, your like the only one here who can't hide his Sony hardon at all lol. Your getting too defensive, its so obvious. Awesome, that the launch games did well with MC but not awesome that its sucking so hard in France. And I like the Vita, can't wait for Type-0 !!

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#114 campzor
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how much does the 3ds sell in france?
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#115 SuperFlakeman
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how much does the 3ds sell in france?campzor

You mean the weekly rate? Idk but it says in the OP that 3DS is currently outselling PSV.

Nintendo France revealed that 3DS had sold 761k units in 2011.

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#116 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="savebattery"]There's no market for the system. The price is too high and it doesn't have a killer app. brofists
^ lol 5/10

Well what is it's killer app? I guess you could say Uncharted, but then the third entry in to the main franchise was only released a few months ago, so I can see why it might not be seen as a must have. And yeah, I was always defensive of the initial Vita figures, but this along with the Media Create numbers (seems to have settled barely above 10k) doesn't seem great for it at the moment. When are the next NPD numbers released?
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#117 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="metal_zombie"]

perhaps this proof that handheld gaming is dying

SuperFlakeman

Fixed But even still, the 3DS has had better success worldwide, but Nintendo pretty much owns the dedicated gaming handheld market.

This is another funny argument.

"It's Mario, ofc it sells"

"It's a Nintendo handheld, ofc it sells"

No

Nintendo has Pokemon, and that alone will drive sales for their handhelds. I don't think the PSP ever got a killerapp that would push units worldwide the way that Pokemon does.

Watch the sales of the 3DS sky rocket then month or so before the first 3D Pokemon game releasess

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#118 Bigboi500
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Wow, that is bad. I still expect the Vita be ok once it gets a killer app.MercenaryMafia
At this point it will take more than just a killer app to save the Vita.

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#119 CanYouDiglt
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Sony and the Vita are http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMSHvgaUWc8&feature=player_embedded
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#120 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] Fixed But even still, the 3DS has had better success worldwide, but Nintendo pretty much owns the dedicated gaming handheld market. BPoole96

This is another funny argument.

"It's Mario, ofc it sells"

"It's a Nintendo handheld, ofc it sells"

No

Nintendo has Pokemon, and that alone will drive sales for their handhelds. I don't think the PSP ever got a killerapp that would push units worldwide the way that Pokemon does.

Watch the sales of the 3DS sky rocket then month or so before the first 3D Pokemon game releasess

Yeah this is true.

My point was that this common argument is undermining Nintendo's ability to sustain high software/console sales long term.

Mario or Pokemon doesn't sell because they are Mario/Pokemon games, they sell because of how well these franchises are handled in regards to fun, quality, marketing, timing, pricepoint (this is where hardware power comes into play),element of surprise ("gimmicks" such as 3D/motion controls), nostalgia (tanooki suit).

Nintendo handheld + Mario + Pokemon doesn't automatically ensure success.

EDIT: Just look at Nintendogs + Cats, it won't come near the original's sales.

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#121 Microsoft1234
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so overall how is the psvita doing? BTW i don't know what it is, but Handhelds just feel like 5 years ago.
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#122 e_stone001
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so overall how is the psvita doing? BTW i don't know what it is, but Handhelds just feel like 5 years ago. Microsoft1234

Overall, it's doing ok. It's pretty fun actually. I'm really enjoying it. I have 8 games for it and counting. Plus I heard that the PS Vita has outsold the 3DS in Europe since it launched everywhere except one or two countries. Gotta find the link. Once more heavy hitters come out, it'll do great. (Looks at Gravity Rush) :)

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#123 campzor
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[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"]so overall how is the psvita doing? BTW i don't know what it is, but Handhelds just feel like 5 years ago.

it le'stinks?
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#124 MLBknights58
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I bet AtariKid bought all 66,000 units.

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#125 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

This is another funny argument.

"It's Mario, ofc it sells"

"It's a Nintendo handheld, ofc it sells"

No

SuperFlakeman

Nintendo has Pokemon, and that alone will drive sales for their handhelds. I don't think the PSP ever got a killerapp that would push units worldwide the way that Pokemon does.

Watch the sales of the 3DS sky rocket then month or so before the first 3D Pokemon game releasess

Nintendo handheld + Mario + Pokemon doesn't automatically ensure success.

It isn't going to fail with those games either. Notice how when the 3DS launched it was a short period before a Mario game came out and they didn't di a nostalgia cash in of Ocarina of Time in 3D. Nintendo knwos which games will psuh hardware.

Unfortunately for Sony, they do not really have anything like that for PSP or Vita and the Vita doesn't have much of a gimmick other than being "the new PSP"

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#126 Joedgabe
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They need to make better games..... I'm with the idea that if they should place android on it. It would really help in sales.

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#127 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Nintendo has Pokemon, and that alone will drive sales for their handhelds. I don't think the PSP ever got a killerapp that would push units worldwide the way that Pokemon does.

Watch the sales of the 3DS sky rocket then month or so before the first 3D Pokemon game releasess

BPoole96

Nintendo handheld + Mario + Pokemon doesn't automatically ensure success.

It isn't going to fail with those games either. Notice how when the 3DS launched it was a short period before a Mario game came out and they didn't di a nostalgia cash in of Ocarina of Time in 3D. Nintendo knwos which games will psuh hardware.

Unfortunately for Sony, they do not really have anything like that for PSP or Vita and the Vita doesn't have much of a gimmick other than being "the new PSP"

For crying out loud, yes!! you're missing the point

Sony has had what, 18 years to establish franchises and look where we are today. Nintendo's management of the Zelda series resulted in that OoT 3D remake is a system seller 25 years later.

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#128 FireEmblem_Man
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Sony really needs a marketable franchise that will spark sales NOW!!! It's a shame that Sony gave Crash and Spyro the boot after the PSX era.

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#129 AdmiralBison
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Wow, that is bad. I still expect the Vita be ok once it gets a killer app.MercenaryMafia
I thought the killer app was Uncharted?
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#130 AdmiralBison
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They should just discontinue the system and pretend it never launched.

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The PSP GO never happened.
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#131 AdmiralBison
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Typical cow response: lol France not important

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LondonFrance LondonFrance laml laml lol. Sorry, just making light of the horrible news.
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#132 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Typical cow response: lol France not important

AdmiralBison

LondonFrance LondonFrance laml laml lol. Sorry, just making light of the horrible news.

World sales are no longer important, seek refuge in HOME.:P

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#133 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="brofists"]I love these articles. These kind of articles always make me lol Doom and gloom this and doom and gloom that. I went and bought one. And to simply put it, I have never ...ever experienced such a powerful and tech savve hand held like the Vita in my life. I still remember playing a gameboy lol. The Vita feels like its alien technology or something lol. I have been enjoying my Vita immensely. Thats what matters to me. And that i'm happy with my purchase. And boy am I. It is a shame though, because the Vita deserves to be played by everybody. Its an awesome hand held. But were are in an economic crysis. People just don't have the money.

Yet they have the money to get a 3DS or buy 3 million iPads?!? I wouldn't wholly blame an economic Crysis for Vitas failure.
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#134 SPYDER0416
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so overall how is the psvita doing? BTW i don't know what it is, but Handhelds just feel like 5 years ago. Microsoft1234

Its doing better then Vita doomsayers think (or else we wouldn't have this thread telling us how its doing in FRANCE), but its not some runaway success some of the cows predicted at E3.

Yeah its doing pretty well.

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#135 bonesawisready5
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Sony needs a redesign so much more than Nintendo needs one as far as PSV/3DS I'd release a PSV slim asap, built in memory, bettery battery life and smaller. But knowing them they can't force that hand until years from now. They can't even afford a price drop. So basically watch as the little third party support it was getting vanishes as it sells 100k per month in US, and even worse everywhere else. I'm sorry folks but with sales this bad you'd have to question the sanity of any third parties making non-port, exclusive PS Vita specific games.
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Sony has had what, 18 years to establish franchises and look where we are today. Nintendo's management of the Zelda series resulted in that OoT 3D remake is a system seller 25 years later.SuperFlakeman
They come out with a least one good series I like each gen. Syphon filer I've enjoyed since ps1 and grand turismo has been out that long as well
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#137 todd2r
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It's a shame. The PSVita is an awesome system. I'm enjoying mine a lot. Too bad nobody else wants to try it. A failing system is not good for our industry guys. Hopefully more people pick it up.
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#138 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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how much does the 3ds sell in france?campzor
Since its launch, the 3DS has sold 874,000 units in France so far.
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#139 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"]so overall how is the psvita doing? BTW i don't know what it is, but Handhelds just feel like 5 years ago. e_stone001

Overall, it's doing ok. It's pretty fun actually. I'm really enjoying it. I have 8 games for it and counting. Plus I heard that the PS Vita has outsold the 3DS in Europe since it launched everywhere except one or two countries. Gotta find the link. Once more heavy hitters come out, it'll do great. (Looks at Gravity Rush) :)

The PS Vita has not outsold the 3DS in any region for any tracking period since the two launched.
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#140 DaisyFan007
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Do the vita got good title anyway?

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#141 campzor
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[QUOTE="campzor"]how much does the 3ds sell in france?charizard1605
Since its launch, the 3DS has sold 874,000 units in France so far.

but on a weekly sale? For all we know they could be about even with how much the 3ds sold in its first month.. (just guessing)
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#142 Epak_
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Ah yeah slash that price already.

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#143 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="campzor"]how much does the 3ds sell in france?campzor
Since its launch, the 3DS has sold 874,000 units in France so far.

but on a weekly sale? For all we know they could be about even with how much the 3ds sold in its first month.. (just guessing)

In its first three weeks, the 3DS sold 147,000 units in France.
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#144 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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No, disregard that. It sold 160k in 13 weeks. I did not see that '1' lol. So... It sold... Horribly o_O
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#145 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]Sony has had what, 18 years to establish franchises and look where we are today. Nintendo's management of the Zelda series resulted in that OoT 3D remake is a system seller 25 years later.p4s2p0
They come out with a least one good series I like each gen. Syphon filer I've enjoyed since ps1 and grand turismo has been out that long as well

I consider Sony to be the closest to Nintendo as a publisher, even if the majority of their games don't exactly cater to my taste, don't get me wrong.

They are just bad at the sales game as well as sustaining high sales for their few franchises that do become mainstream hits.

The reason why Pokemon and Mario are recipes for success is because Nintendo is a master at handling an IP. If you gave those IPs to other publishers, they would most likely not perform nearly as well.

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#146 SuperFlakeman
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I think PS4 will be a success as a console and maybe even overtake Xbox 3, the latest rumors of their devs working on PS4 games is a good sign, I think they can have a great E3 2013 show.

Sorry but PSV is a sinking ship and probably Sony's last dedicated handheld, I think they will integrate their handheld department with other devices such as the Sony tablet in the future.

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#147 nervmeister
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Sorry but PSV is a sinking ship and probably Sony's last dedicated handheld,

SuperFlakeman

Weren't those exact words said about PS3?

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#148 campzor
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No, disregard that. It sold 160k in 13 weeks. I did not see that '1' lol. So... It sold... Horribly o_Ocharizard1605

and thats the end of that chapter

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#149 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

Sorry but PSV is a sinking ship and probably Sony's last dedicated handheld,

nervmeister

Weren't those exact words said about PS3?

They can't salvage PSV as opposed to PS3.

PS3 was still a financial disaster and lost 45% marketshare. In addition multiplatform games usually perform better on 360. I don't care if it sold 60 million units worldwide, it was a failiure.

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#150 phonemug
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Vita is a disgusting flop

Cows should be ashamed