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Another moronic thread.
More storage on a disk magically makes games better.
Slooooooww read speeds are good.
Mandatory installs are good.
And of course MS should have launched with something that was not available when they launched. Time machine needed.
Sheer brilliance. At least TC's threads are consistently crap...gotta give him credit for the consistency.
[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"] [QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Thanks to Blu-ray, we got mandatory installs. Yay Blu-ray!kuraimenMy 320GB hard drive laughs at these puny installs lol. the problem with the 360 is that lems have to pay like $50 for every gb of ripoff proprietary M$ storage so their parents can't afford it.
Still better than Cows have to pay $25 for a 4GB Memory card.:lol:
His evidence isn't valid. BR has proven absolutely nothing other than it has caused mandatory installs. Not sure how that makes his points about BR making games better valid.Wow, the immaturity in this thread is too damn high. The guy brought in some valid evidence yet you guys hiss at him like he kills your dog or something.
rjdofu
So content=what it contains?? So even stuff like graphics and story is content? themajormayorNah man. Here, I'll try to explain it without fanboy goggles. Content in a game = the amount of things you are able to do in the game that increase it's replayability. For instance, LBP has way more content than a game like God of War due to the fact that it's user created levels guarantee it almost infinite replayability. With GoW, you play through the game once, maybe twice, and then you're done with it until 10 years or so from now when you dust it off from your closet. What he meant is that there aren't many PS3 exclusives that match up to the 360 exclusives in content. For PS3, all I can think of is: LittlebigPlanet 1 & 2 Modnation Racers Other than that, there aren't really any PS3 exclusives with user generated content/modes other than SP and versus MP. Compare that with: Halo 3 & Halo Reach: Campaign, MP, Survival, Forge (Infinite possibilities, you can make the game a platformer, racer, Survival horror, etc. Iv'e even played quidditch in Halo Reach) and Theater mode to Record and share with friends. All modes are at least 4-player cooperative as well Gears of War 3: 4-player co-op campaign, 5v5 vs MP, 5 player co-op Horde (best survival mode out there) 5-player co-op Beast (reversed Horde) Trials Evolution: Map creator, giving it infinite replayability as long as there is a community Forza 4: SP, MP, Time trials, and liverty editor for cars. Also an online auction house for cars, giving the game an ongoing economy. Minecraft: New world generated every time with no limits on what to make. Self-explanatory. All of these games are designed in a way that can hold your attention for months, if not years at a time. With games like Halo and Trials, there will always be new stages, gametypes, and ideas to experience. This is why these games are so revered on the Xbox platform, not because they are godlike in storytelling or cinematics, but because they are just a blast and keep people coming back for more. The PS3 simply has nothing like Halo, Nothing like Gears, and nothing like Minecraft in replayability.
Another moronic thread.
More storage on a disk magically makes games better.
Slooooooww read speeds are good.
Mandatory installs are good.
And of course MS should have launched with something that was not available when they launched. Time machine needed.
Sheer brilliance. At least TC's threads are consistently crap...gotta give him credit for the consistency.
SUD123456
This.
[QUOTE="themajormayor"]So content=what it contains?? So even stuff like graphics and story is content? PlaguelessNah man. Here, I'll try to explain it without fanboy goggles. Content in a game = the amount of things you are able to do in the game that increase it's replayability. For instance, LBP has way more content than a game like God of War due to the fact that it's user created levels guarantee it almost infinite replayability. With GoW, you play through the game once, maybe twice, and then you're done with it until 10 years or so from now when you dust it off from your closet. What he meant is that there aren't many PS3 exclusives that match up to the 360 exclusives in content. For PS3, all I can think of is: LittlebigPlanet 1 & 2 Modnation Racers Other than that, there aren't really any PS3 exclusives with user generated content/modes other than SP and versus MP. Compare that with: Halo 3 & Halo Reach: Campaign, MP, Survival, Forge (Infinite possibilities, you can make the game a platformer, racer, Survival horror, etc. Iv'e even played quidditch in Halo Reach) and Theater mode to Record and share with friends. All modes are at least 4-player cooperative as well Gears of War 3: 4-player co-op campaign, 5v5 vs MP, 5 player co-op Horde (best survival mode out there) 5-player co-op Beast (reversed Horde) Trials Evolution: Map creator, giving it infinite replayability as long as there is a community Forza 4: SP, MP, Time trials, and liverty editor for cars. Also an online auction house for cars, giving the game an ongoing economy. Minecraft: New world generated every time with no limits on what to make. Self-explanatory. All of these games are designed in a way that can hold your attention for months, if not years at a time. With games like Halo and Trials, there will always be new stages, gametypes, and ideas to experience. This is why these games are so revered on the Xbox platform, not because they are godlike in storytelling or cinematics, but because they are just a blast and keep people coming back for more. The PS3 simply has nothing like Halo, Nothing like Gears, and nothing like Minecraft in replayability.
This. I couldnt have said it any better.
Well, at least you put a lot of effort into your threads, TC.
EDIT: I'm not in Stevo's sig. Don't know if I should feel either delighted or depressed about this. :(
Perfect thread that actually makes so much sense. Thanks for posting it. It deserves some reading.
Lems have been telling me that Blu-ray wasn't necessary and all PS3 exclusives can be fitted in a DVD. How wrong they are... Please read the OP, Lems. What arkephonic have written are facts.
what game is that?[QUOTE="rilpas"][QUOTE="PAL360"]
Yet the biggest and most feature packed games this gen fit in a DVD!
PAL360
Halo Reach, Gears 3, Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, Skyrim, GTA 4, RDR, Just Cause 2...
:lol:
Did you know that GTA IV has been affected by the DVD? Halo Reach and Gears 3 isn't exactly "Biggest and most feature packed" you make it out to be. It's because you are a blind 360 fanboy.
Cut your ignorant nonsense. DVD is obviously a mistake on Microsoft's part. Go back and read the OP - those texts are facts.
I've just read some more in this thread and I have to say I can't believe how dumb 360 fanboys are. It's just beyond me.
Arkephonic made this thread based on factual evidences, and you Lems STILL didn't accept it. Are you guys that delusional? :shock: It's usual for Lems to ignore facts and spout garbage out of their mouths to defense their console of choice.
Honestly, this place is getting dumber by the day.
You can't deny the facts, can you? Lems, grow some balls and take your Halo helmet off, and actually read some facts and understand.
Those stupid Lems are making me ashamed to own the 360. This thread have added more to my hatred against them.
Unbelievable stupidity right here.
[QUOTE="PAL360"]
[QUOTE="rilpas"] what game is that?GamerwillzPS
Halo Reach, Gears 3, Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, Skyrim, GTA 4, RDR, Just Cause 2...
:lol:
Did you know that GTA IV has been affected by the DVD? Halo Reach and Gears 3 isn't exactly "Biggest and most feature packed" you make it out to be. It's because you are a blind 360 fanboy.
Cut your ignorant nonsense. DVD is obviously a mistake on Microsoft's part. Go back and read the OP - those texts are facts.
Im not saying Bluray isnt a good thing. It was just not needed this gen.
GTA 4 has more content than any PS3 exclusive, and isnt 360 version, the only HD console version? Halo Reach and Gears 3 do have more features/replay value than any PS3 exclusive aswell (local and online campaign coop, horde, firefight, forge world, teatre mode, local splitscreen for any modes, etc...)
[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
[QUOTE="PAL360"]
Halo Reach, Gears 3, Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, Skyrim, GTA 4, RDR, Just Cause 2...
PAL360
:lol:
Did you know that GTA IV has been affected by the DVD? Halo Reach and Gears 3 isn't exactly "Biggest and most feature packed" you make it out to be. It's because you are a blind 360 fanboy.
Cut your ignorant nonsense. DVD is obviously a mistake on Microsoft's part. Go back and read the OP - those texts are facts.
Im not saying Bluray isnt a good thing. It was just not needed this gen.
GTA 4 has more content than any PS3 exclusive, and isnt 360 version, the only HD console version? Halo Reach and Gears 3 do have more features/replay value than any PS3 exclusive aswell (local and online campaign coop, horde, firefight, forge world, teatre mode, local splitscreen for any modes, etc...)
Why should I spend £40 to access those additional features? It's because those things are based in multiplayer, right?
I'm using my 360 as a Silver member, and that means a lot of features have been cut for my experience. I already paid £40 for the game, and there's NO WAY in hell I'm going to spend extra to unlock the multiplayer component.
[QUOTE="PAL360"]
[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
:lol:
Did you know that GTA IV has been affected by the DVD? Halo Reach and Gears 3 isn't exactly "Biggest and most feature packed" you make it out to be. It's because you are a blind 360 fanboy.
Cut your ignorant nonsense. DVD is obviously a mistake on Microsoft's part. Go back and read the OP - those texts are facts.
GamerwillzPS
Im not saying Bluray isnt a good thing. It was just not needed this gen.
GTA 4 has more content than any PS3 exclusive, and isnt 360 version, the only HD console version? Halo Reach and Gears 3 do have more features/replay value than any PS3 exclusive aswell (local and online campaign coop, horde, firefight, forge world, teatre mode, local splitscreen for any modes, etc...)
Why should I spend £40 to access those additional features? It's because those things are based in multiplayer, right?
I'm using my 360 as a Silver member, and that means a lot of features have been cut for my experience. I already paid £40 for the game, and there's NO WAY in hell I'm going to spend extra to unlock the multiplayer component.
Thats not my problem, buddy :P
I would prefer live to be free, sure, but its well worth the money.
I've just read some more in this thread and I have to say I can't believe how dumb 360 fanboys are. It's just beyond me.
Arkephonic made this thread based on factual evidences, and you Lems STILL didn't accept it. Are you guys that delusional? :shock: It's usual for Lems to ignore facts and spout garbage out of their mouths to defense their console of choice.
Honestly, this place is getting dumber by the day.
You can't deny the facts, can you? Lems, grow some balls and take your Halo helmet off, and actually read some facts and understand.
Those stupid Lems are making me ashamed to own the 360. This thread have added more to my hatred against them.
Unbelievable stupidity right here.
GamerwillzPS
it's alright, I'm sure you make most PS3 owners ashamed to own a PS3
(at least that's effect you have on me)
[QUOTE="PAL360"]
[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
:lol:
Did you know that GTA IV has been affected by the DVD? Halo Reach and Gears 3 isn't exactly "Biggest and most feature packed" you make it out to be. It's because you are a blind 360 fanboy.
Cut your ignorant nonsense. DVD is obviously a mistake on Microsoft's part. Go back and read the OP - those texts are facts.
GamerwillzPS
Im not saying Bluray isnt a good thing. It was just not needed this gen.
GTA 4 has more content than any PS3 exclusive, and isnt 360 version, the only HD console version? Halo Reach and Gears 3 do have more features/replay value than any PS3 exclusive aswell (local and online campaign coop, horde, firefight, forge world, teatre mode, local splitscreen for any modes, etc...)
Why should I spend £40 to access those additional features? It's because those things are based in multiplayer, right?
I'm using my 360 as a Silver member, and that means a lot of features have been cut for my experience. I already paid £40 for the game, and there's NO WAY in hell I'm going to spend extra to unlock the multiplayer component.
doesn't mean the game doesn't have those features just because you don't want to pay for XBL, 360 exclusives generally have more features and modes than Ps3 exclusives= FACT,GTA4 is sub HD on the PS3, so is RDR so although blu-ray may make Ps3 exclusives better they certainly don't make multiplat games Better or run better on the Ps3, i know it's hard to accept the truth but most multiplats run better on the 360, not bad for a sytem that uses DVD's eh.Um, Halo actually is one of the most feature packed shooters on consoles, there's an insane amount of things you can do with it.Perfect thread that actually makes so much sense. Thanks for posting it. It deserves some reading.
Lems have been telling me that Blu-ray wasn't necessary and all PS3 exclusives can be fitted in a DVD. How wrong they are... Please read the OP, Lems. What arkephonic have written are facts.
GamerwillzPS
[QUOTE="rjdofu"]His evidence isn't valid. BR has proven absolutely nothing other than it has caused mandatory installs. Not sure how that makes his points about BR making games better valid. More capacity means nothing when it comes to performance (including SOUND & cutscene quality)? Ok :roll: It's the fact that games on PS3 are harder to develop. Most multiplat are poorly ported from the xbox360 to the PS3, none of them actually use the full capacity of the bluray disc. A few exception like FFXIII, which developers have to compress the sound and cutscene quality of the xbox version (from about 33gb of CG & sound to 3 DVD with 6.8gb each), look at what it becomes. Many of you always argue based on multiplats generally running better on 360 (which is correct), yet failed to see the PS3 version is basically the same size as the xbox version. This means that the bluray is NOT used to its full potential. How can you say it's not good when it's not even used? If it's not good, then why blu ray will be the standard for the future gen console?Wow, the immaturity in this thread is too damn high. The guy brought in some valid evidence yet you guys hiss at him like he kills your dog or something.
kingtito
[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"][QUOTE="PAL360"]
Im not saying Bluray isnt a good thing. It was just not needed this gen.
GTA 4 has more content than any PS3 exclusive, and isnt 360 version, the only HD console version? Halo Reach and Gears 3 do have more features/replay value than any PS3 exclusive aswell (local and online campaign coop, horde, firefight, forge world, teatre mode, local splitscreen for any modes, etc...)
delta3074
Why should I spend £40 to access those additional features? It's because those things are based in multiplayer, right?
I'm using my 360 as a Silver member, and that means a lot of features have been cut for my experience. I already paid £40 for the game, and there's NO WAY in hell I'm going to spend extra to unlock the multiplayer component.
doesn't mean the game doesn't have those features just because you don't want to pay for XBL, 360 exclusives generally have more features and modes than Ps3 exclusives= FACT,GTA4 is sub HD on the PS3, so is RDR so although blu-ray may make Ps3 exclusives better they certainly don't make multiplat games Better or run better on the Ps3, i know it's hard to accept the truth but most multiplats run better on the 360, not bad for a sytem that uses DVD's eh.Wait a minute. Uncharted 2 & 3 are actually feature-packed. It has awesome storylines plus good multiplayer with co-op. What do you have to say about this?
Again, cut your nonsense fanboyism garbage.
doesn't mean the game doesn't have those features just because you don't want to pay for XBL, 360 exclusives generally have more features and modes than Ps3 exclusives= FACT,GTA4 is sub HD on the PS3, so is RDR so although blu-ray may make Ps3 exclusives better they certainly don't make multiplat games Better or run better on the Ps3, i know it's hard to accept the truth but most multiplats run better on the 360, not bad for a sytem that uses DVD's eh.[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
Why should I spend £40 to access those additional features? It's because those things are based in multiplayer, right?
I'm using my 360 as a Silver member, and that means a lot of features have been cut for my experience. I already paid £40 for the game, and there's NO WAY in hell I'm going to spend extra to unlock the multiplayer component.
GamerwillzPS
Wait a minute. Uncharted 2 & 3 are actually feature-packed. It has awesome storylines plus good multiplayer with co-op. What do you have to say about this?
Again, cut your nonsense fanboyism garbage.
Gears 3 has more online modes than UC3 and more offline modes and even that has nothing on the amount of features and content Halo Reach has, i already proved shadowmoses wrong about which game has the most features between gears 3 and UC3 so i suggest you shut your pathetic fanboy mouth and give it a rest, the truth is that 360 exclusives GENERALLY offer more features, content and modes, the only exception to this would be LBP but you can get just as creative with forge mode on Reach, also, UC3 doesn't have a fully fledged online 4 player co-op like gears 3, Ps3 exlcuisves may have the best graphics but when it comes to content 360 exclusive generally knock PPs3 exclusives into the ground.[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="rjdofu"]His evidence isn't valid. BR has proven absolutely nothing other than it has caused mandatory installs. Not sure how that makes his points about BR making games better valid. More capacity means nothing when it comes to performance (including SOUND & cutscene quality)? Ok :roll: It's the fact that games on PS3 are harder to develop. Most multiplat are poorly ported from the xbox360 to the PS3, none of them actually use the full capacity of the bluray disc. A few exception like FFXIII, which developers have to compress the sound and cutscene quality of the xbox version (from about 33gb of CG & sound to 3 DVD with 6.8gb each), look at what it becomes. Many of you always argue based on multiplats generally running better on 360 (which is correct), yet failed to see the PS3 version is basically the same size as the xbox version. This means that the bluray is NOT used to its full potential. How can you say it's not good when it's not even used? If it's not good, then why blu ray will be the standard for the future gen console? Unless you have an install most of the BR disk for multiplats contains duplicate data to make up for the slow speed of the Ps3's BR drive, also, quite afew games are actually bigger on disk on the Ps3 than they are on the 360,skyrim for example is only 3.8gb on the 360 but a whopping 10.16gb on the Ps3, that's nearly 3 times the size of the 360 version. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-face-off-skyrimWow, the immaturity in this thread is too damn high. The guy brought in some valid evidence yet you guys hiss at him like he kills your dog or something.
rjdofu
[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]Um, Halo actually is one of the most feature packed shooters on consoles, there's an insane amount of things you can do with it.I'd even go a step further and say, Reach is the most feature packed shooter on consoles. :oPerfect thread that actually makes so much sense. Thanks for posting it. It deserves some reading.
Lems have been telling me that Blu-ray wasn't necessary and all PS3 exclusives can be fitted in a DVD. How wrong they are... Please read the OP, Lems. What arkephonic have written are facts.
soulitane
Well, at least until Halo 4 arrives. :P
How can it be a bad decision for MS, when Blu Ray was still in development at Sony and others at the time. It was also expensive and it's debatable as to whether it was justified.
Also the PC has been getting on well without Blu Ray, yet it's a hindrance not to have it?
The Xbox division would be a failure if MS had released a late expensive console. Competing would have been so much harder.
The VAST majority of games have been fine without Blu Ray, with only a minority requiring multi disk. Next gen maybe, but from a business perspective Blu Ray would have been a luxury MS couldn't afford. It could well have been the straw that caused them to fail this gen.
Yes some games have made use of it, but the CELL and Blu Ray have been very costly to Sony. I'm not even sure Sony has or will make their money back with gen. If they have made all their PS3 losses back and have started making a profit from the PS division this gen, they won't have made much by the end.
So honestly which company made the right decision?
Developers don't have to worry about these things so it's easy for them to say these things.
Most of the benefits Blu Ray brought aren't really a benefit to gaming. Higher quality audio and cut scenes. I'm unaware of any complaints about the 360s audio quality.
Cut your ignorant nonsense. DVD is obviously a mistake on Microsoft's part.
GamerwillzPS
I do not want to hear any of your opinions on anything other than this specific question. What should MS have done instead of DVD? In other words, what would you have done if you were MS in 2005? You can use my time machine.
[spoiler] Their mistake was not DVD; it was not ensuring every SKU had a HD. [/spoiler]
[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
Cut your ignorant nonsense. DVD is obviously a mistake on Microsoft's part.
SUD123456
I do not want to hear any of your opinions on anything other than this specific question. What should MS have done instead of DVD? In other words, what would you have done if you were MS in 2005? You can use my time machine.
[spoiler] Their mistake was not DVD; it was not ensuring every SKU had a HD. [/spoiler]
Totally agree with you,i made the same point in Arkophonic last Anti DVD thread, if they had fitted every 360 with said peice of kit then DVD would not be a problem as every 360 owner could install there games.[QUOTE="PAL360"]
what game is that?rilpas
Halo Reach, Gears 3, Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, Skyrim, GTA 4, RDR, Just Cause 2...
:lol:
Did you know that GTA IV has been affected by the DVD? Halo Reach and Gears 3 isn't exactly "Biggest and most feature packed" you make it out to be. It's because you are a blind 360 fanboy.
Cut your ignorant nonsense. DVD is obviously a mistake on Microsoft's part. Go back and read the OP - those texts are facts.
gears and halo are most definitely big and feature pack. what are you smoking. they both easily have more content than a game like uncharted or killzone.[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"][QUOTE="PAL360"]
Halo Reach, Gears 3, Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, Skyrim, GTA 4, RDR, Just Cause 2...
mems_1224
:lol:
Did you know that GTA IV has been affected by the DVD? Halo Reach and Gears 3 isn't exactly "Biggest and most feature packed" you make it out to be. It's because you are a blind 360 fanboy.
Cut your ignorant nonsense. DVD is obviously a mistake on Microsoft's part. Go back and read the OP - those texts are facts.
gears and halo are most definitely big and feature pack. what are you smoking. they both easily have more content than a game like uncharted or killzone.Hmm, I have no idea what you are talking about.
You can play against bots in multiplayer maps in Killzone. That's a really nice feature. A campaign and multiplayer. What more do you want?
Uncharted have beautiful storylines and very good multiplayer that is actually worth playing, plus you can play co-op with friends on it. Again, what more do you want?
So you are wrong.
[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
:lol:
Did you know that GTA IV has been affected by the DVD? Halo Reach and Gears 3 isn't exactly "Biggest and most feature packed" you make it out to be. It's because you are a blind 360 fanboy.
Cut your ignorant nonsense. DVD is obviously a mistake on Microsoft's part. Go back and read the OP - those texts are facts.
gears and halo are most definitely big and feature pack. what are you smoking. they both easily have more content than a game like uncharted or killzone.Hmm, I have no idea what you are talking about.
You can play against bots in multiplayer maps in Killzone. That's a really nice feature. A campaign and multiplayer. What more do you want?
Uncharted have beautiful storylines and very good multiplayer that is actually worth playing, plus you can play co-op with friends on it. Again, what more do you want?
So you are wrong.
so killzone has 4 player campaign co op? firefight? a bunch of vehicles, dozens of playlists and maps for multiplayer and the ability to create your own playlists and maps and a video editor to created clips? does uncharted have a 4 player co op mode? horde mode and competative multiplayer. not to mention shooting in gears is waaaaay more satisfying than shooting in uncahrted.gears and halo are most definitely big and feature pack. what are you smoking. they both easily have more content than a game like uncharted or killzone.[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
:lol:
Did you know that GTA IV has been affected by the DVD? Halo Reach and Gears 3 isn't exactly "Biggest and most feature packed" you make it out to be. It's because you are a blind 360 fanboy.
Cut your ignorant nonsense. DVD is obviously a mistake on Microsoft's part. Go back and read the OP - those texts are facts.
GamerwillzPS
Hmm, I have no idea what you are talking about.
You can play against bots in multiplayer maps in Killzone. That's a really nice feature. A campaign and multiplayer. What more do you want?
Uncharted have beautiful storylines and very good multiplayer that is actually worth playing, plus you can play co-op with friends on it. Again, what more do you want?
So you are wrong.
There's a reason Killzone and Uncharted will never be as big as Halo and Gears. Maybe someday you'll figure it out.gears and halo are most definitely big and feature pack. what are you smoking. they both easily have more content than a game like uncharted or killzone.mems_1224
Hmm, I have no idea what you are talking about.
You can play against bots in multiplayer maps in Killzone. That's a really nice feature. A campaign and multiplayer. What more do you want?
Uncharted have beautiful storylines and very good multiplayer that is actually worth playing, plus you can play co-op with friends on it. Again, what more do you want?
So you are wrong.
There's a reason Killzone and Uncharted will never be as big as Halo and Gears. Maybe someday you'll figure it out.uncharted is probably as big as gears. but ps3 doesnt have anything that touches haloHmm, I have no idea what you are talking about.
You can play against bots in multiplayer maps in Killzone. That's a really nice feature. A campaign and multiplayer. What more do you want?
Uncharted have beautiful storylines and very good multiplayer that is actually worth playing, plus you can play co-op with friends on it. Again, what more do you want?
So you are wrong.
There's a reason Killzone and Uncharted will never be as big as Halo and Gears. Maybe someday you'll figure it out.uncharted is probably as big as gears. but ps3 doesnt have anything that touches halo I don't think so. Gears 3 sold more in a couple days than what Uncharted 3 shipped. Or very close to it anyway. I'd say God of War is as big as Gears but not Uncharted.
Instead of putting a decent GPU they went with Blu-Ray and it's biting Sony customers in the ass with a constant stream of inferior multiplats, low framerates, blurry images, and such.
Have you actually played ME2/ME3 on a PS3?
Not only does it look worse than 360 but it has low framerates too.
And Rage on PS3 looks worse and has framerate slowdowns.
You can thank Blu-Ray for taking hardware budget away from the PS3 to actually have decent hardware.
Sony makes these dumb decisions and fanboys praise them for it.
Multiplats are made for the lowest common denomantor in mind, the 360. If devs took advantage of the PS3 in a multiplat, then it wouldn't work on 360. So they (as some people claim) develop for the 360 1st.
If all multiplats were just made exclusive to the PS3 they would all look and play better then they do now. But mutliplats is where the money is at, and (almost) all multiplats are identical, only bad devs make bad ports.
However it will be interesting to see how things play out in the future, more and more devs are complaining aboutthe 360 and it not being able to handle their game or it's lack of storage size. Rockstar for instance has complained about it. So how will 360 be able to keep up with the hardware and storage demands in the future?
MS will either have to release a new Xbox or the games will be exclusive to the PS3.
The fact that most PC's don't use Blu-ray isn't a good comparison, because with the PC, you either use digital distribution or if you buy retail, you just install the discs and then you never have to use the discs again, and if you do, you only need to use one of the discs to play.
With the Xbox 360, you need to change discs regardless of installation, leading to annoyances like this.
"The real disappointment with the 360 version is Bioware's decision to slice its content across two DVDs, awkwardly forcing a divide between the main story and the side-missions. For a completist, this will doubtless result in multiple disc-swaps between its 50-plus missions. Meanwhile, the PS3 version naturally sidesteps the issue altogether by brute force of the Blu-ray disc's higher capacity, allowing you to dive into the optional content seamlessly from the main quest."
Multiplats are made for the lowest common denomantor in mind, the 360. If devs took advantage of the PS3 in a multiplat, then it wouldn't work on 360. So they (as some people claim) develop for the 360 1st.
If all multiplats were just made exclusive to the PS3 they would all look and play better then they do now. But mutliplats is where the money is at, and (almost) all multiplats are identical, only bad devs make bad ports.
However it will be interesting to see how things play out in the future, more and more devs are complaining aboutthe 360 and it not being able to handle their game or it's lack of storage size. Rockstar for instance has complained about it. So how will 360 be able to keep up with the hardware and storage demands in the future?
MS will either have to release a new Xbox or the games will be exclusive to the PS3.
:lol: whatever helps you sleep at night dudeThe fact that most PC's don't use Blu-ray isn't a good comparison, because with the PC, you either use digital distribution or if you buy retail, you just install the discs and then you never have to use the discs again, and if you do, you only need to use one of the discs to play.
With the Xbox 360, you need to change discs regardless of installation, leading to annoyances like this.
"The real disappointment with the 360 version is Bioware's decision to slice its content across two DVDs, awkwardly forcing a divide between the main story and the side-missions. For a completist, this will doubtless result in multiple disc-swaps between its 50-plus missions. Meanwhile, the PS3 version naturally sidesteps the issue altogether by brute force of the Blu-ray disc's higher capacity, allowing you to dive into the optional content seamlessly from the main quest."
arkephonic
Nonsense. It debunks the myth that somehow BD magically adds to content, length or graphics. It does none of those things. It is simply storage. More storage is good. Scratch resistance is good. In those senses BD is good for the PS3.
It also comes with a first gen sloooow BD drive. Which leads to many mandatory installs and other tradeoffs in performance.
The smart thing Sony did was having a mandatory HDD for every SKU as it allows them to deal better with the tradeoffs caused by the 1st gen BD drive.
The dumb thing Sony did was using BD at all since they already decided to go with a mandatory HDD. They could have launched earlier, at a cheaper price point, with DVD and a HDD thereby overcoming the weaknessness that 360 has with DVD but no mandatory HDD.
But for Sony, BD was never about gaming which is why they launched later at a higher price and lost $$$ and marketshare with no material improvement in the actual games. Disk swaps. Oh, the horror of it all!!!!!... on the handful of games....uh, yeah...ahem.
But good for you cows lapping up all that Sony milk.
Wow, it's been 6 years now but people still mis-informed on this subject. The reason why $ony decided to stick the Blu-Ray disc in the PS3 was just "TO WIN THE HD FORMAT WAR "and passed down the cost to their own gamers.
[QUOTE="arkephonic"]
The fact that most PC's don't use Blu-ray isn't a good comparison, because with the PC, you either use digital distribution or if you buy retail, you just install the discs and then you never have to use the discs again, and if you do, you only need to use one of the discs to play.
With the Xbox 360, you need to change discs regardless of installation, leading to annoyances like this.
"The real disappointment with the 360 version is Bioware's decision to slice its content across two DVDs, awkwardly forcing a divide between the main story and the side-missions. For a completist, this will doubtless result in multiple disc-swaps between its 50-plus missions. Meanwhile, the PS3 version naturally sidesteps the issue altogether by brute force of the Blu-ray disc's higher capacity, allowing you to dive into the optional content seamlessly from the main quest."
SUD123456
Nonsense. It debunks the myth that somehow BD magically adds to content, length or graphics. It does none of those things. It is simply storage. More storage is good. Scratch resistance is good. In those senses BD is good for the PS3.
It also comes with a first gen sloooow BD drive. Which leads to many mandatory installs and other tradeoffs in performance.
The smart thing Sony did was having a mandatory HDD for every SKU as it allows them to deal better with the tradeoffs caused by the 1st gen BD drive.
The dumb thing Sony did was using BD at all since they already decided to go with a mandatory HDD. They could have launched earlier, at a cheaper price point, with DVD and a HDD thereby overcoming the weaknessness that 360 has with DVD but no mandatory HDD.
But for Sony, BD was never about gaming which is why they launched later at a higher price and lost $$$ and marketshare with no material improvement in the actual games. Disk swaps. Oh, the horror of it all!!!!!... on the handful of games....uh, yeah...ahem.
But good for you cows lapping up all that Sony milk.
Storage has always been a problem for consoles. Nintendo 64 had a fraction of the storage of the PS1, and it was a miracle that games like Resident Evil 2 even came to the N64. A game like Metal Gear Solid wouldn't have even been possible on the Nintendo 64 because of all the things like cutscenes and voice acting. MGS was only on 2 discs, now imagine a game like Final Fantasy IX which spanned 4 discs? The CDs on PS1 could store about 700 megabytes of data, whereas a cartridge on the N64 could only store 64 megabytes unless it was a special cartridge like in the case of Resident Evil 2.
Part of the reason that Nintendo 64 used a limited storage capacity cartridge was to prevent piracy, which is the exact same reason they used a mini disc solution in the Gamecube, and use a proprietary disc format in all of their consoles including the Wii and upcoming Wii U. The Gamecube was the only system last gen to have multiple disc games, and that's because storage became a problem on the mini discs.
It's all about the evolution of gaming, which goes hand in hand with games becoming larger and larger in size. If DVD was a sufficient storage medium for gaming, games wouldn't be releasing on 2, 3, sometimes 4 discs for the Xbox 360. Multiple disc games is always a clear cut sign that a change needs to be made, it always has been. This is much more applicable to consoles because consoles require each disc for playing, requiring the specific disc to be in the console pertaining to the specific part of the game. With PC, you install the discs and put them in storage, you don't need them anymore. That's not the case with consoles.
The only people defending DVD are fanboys. History goes against these fanboys, and industry professionals from all over have voiced their opinions which disagree with these fanboys. Once multple disc games start coming out on a consistent basis, a time for change is there. The PS3 side stepped the issue entirely, just like they did with the DVD on PS2 and just like they did with Blu-ray on PS3. Developers from all over have gone on record saying that the DVD format is dated and Blu-ray is a welcomed solution, as evidenced in the quotes in my original post. There's a reason all next gen systems will use either Blu-ray or another high capacity storage medium alternative.
Long story short, the only people that disagree are fanboys.
[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] There's a reason Killzone and Uncharted will never be as big as Halo and Gears. Maybe someday you'll figure it out.JohnnyCageMKuncharted is probably as big as gears. but ps3 doesnt have anything that touches halo I don't think so. Gears 3 sold more in a couple days than what Uncharted 3 shipped. Or very close to it anyway. I'd say God of War is as big as Gears but not Uncharted.
Oh dear, wrong again. Uncharted series has sold over 17 million units in total.
Get your facts straight, dude.
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]:lol: whatever helps you sleep at night dudeMultiplats are made for the lowest common denomantor in mind, the 360. If devs took advantage of the PS3 in a multiplat, then it wouldn't work on 360. So they (as some people claim) develop for the 360 1st.
If all multiplats were just made exclusive to the PS3 they would all look and play better then they do now. But mutliplats is where the money is at, and (almost) all multiplats are identical, only bad devs make bad ports.
However it will be interesting to see how things play out in the future, more and more devs are complaining aboutthe 360 and it not being able to handle their game or it's lack of storage size. Rockstar for instance has complained about it. So how will 360 be able to keep up with the hardware and storage demands in the future?
MS will either have to release a new Xbox or the games will be exclusive to the PS3.
mems_1224
Actually, he is right. Think about the limited capacity of the DVD and a Xbox 360 SKU lacking a hard drive.
Again, get your logic straight, you little irritating fanboy.
Swapping out disc takes less time than it does having to install every PS3 game .kingtitoThis may be the best counter argument I've ever heard on this matter.
[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
Multiplats are made for the lowest common denomantor in mind, the 360. If devs took advantage of the PS3 in a multiplat, then it wouldn't work on 360. So they (as some people claim) develop for the 360 1st.
If all multiplats were just made exclusive to the PS3 they would all look and play better then they do now. But mutliplats is where the money is at, and (almost) all multiplats are identical, only bad devs make bad ports.
However it will be interesting to see how things play out in the future, more and more devs are complaining aboutthe 360 and it not being able to handle their game or it's lack of storage size. Rockstar for instance has complained about it. So how will 360 be able to keep up with the hardware and storage demands in the future?
MS will either have to release a new Xbox or the games will be exclusive to the PS3.
:lol: whatever helps you sleep at night dudeActually, he is right. Think about the limited capacity of the DVD and a Xbox 360 SKU lacking a hard drive.
Again, get your logic straight, you little irritating fanboy.
why doesnt pc suffer then? it destroys both consoles.Please Log In to post.
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