PS3 Hacker Raised All the Legal Funds Needed to Beat Sony in a Weekend

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#201 TOAO_Cyrus1
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Cant believe people actually donated to this clown. He acts like an arrogant little b**** and then he gets served and then pretends like he is humble and he does things out of the goodness of his heart. For the people my ass, it is all for his ego. I have nothing against hacking, but this guy is annoying.

Kahuna_1

I don't care if hes an **** Sony shouldn't be able to bully him in court simply because they have lots of money. Sadly thats how our legal system works.

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#202 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="Dark_Arkitect"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

People will support a*****e hackers like this guy yet won't support developers. WTF is wrong with the gaming community?

ChubbyGuy40

...and where is your proof that developers aren't supported?Or is this idle troll chatter?Just wonder where these "facts" you state are gathered.

No offense by the way.I'm just reading a lot of this sort of thing lately and want to know where it all comes from....outside of so and so business lays off x amount of workforce.That's not due to lack of support.That's due to a lot of people don't have the $$ to shell out on every game that comes out,or a mediocre game that last 6 hours in campaign,or a IP that comes out rehashed every year.

With all the bs games that come out and the sales of games down because of them....great games like Mirrors Edge 2 gets cancelled.The developers are supported.Just not the ones that make garbage.Cancel that,cause imo cod bo is garbage and look at the support that gets.

Wheres the proof that piracy won't be a problem with this jailbreak? Just because someone says so, doesn't mean it wasn't intended or true. Thats what I hate the most about this guy and that other team. The sleeping giant didn't want to be disturbed and now it sounds like they're begging for mercy. I, for one don't understand why anyone wants to run custom firmware and apps on their consoles. Why, when its so much easier (and legal) on PC? Why deal with the hassle, compatibility, and other things? What more do you need to do on your PS3? If you want a functioning PC, well you already have one. Freedom? Pretty sure you never had even the thought of running this stuff off the PS3.

You are correct though. Game prices are really high and now its finally flooding over to PC. Development costs, licensing fees, and publisher fees. They're killing themselves and thats why indie devs are very successful these days.

I have never had the urge to mod my PS3 or any other console for those very reasons but thats not a good enough reason to give corporations the power dictate what you can legally do with your property.
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#203 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

I'll be frank. Even if Sony looses they are going to drag this case out for as long as possible to put him in debt. Its the same thing with what activision is doing to theIW guys.

hexashadow13
But the gaming community is stupid enough to donate to a guy that's causing stuff to get messed up, rather then the people that are contributing it. Key difference here.

Actually the people who are donating are able to see the bigger picture outside their own little world. Even if the jailbreak hurts the industry it still should be perfectly legal.
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#204 X360PS3AMD05
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How do they know it's enough? And that he will win?
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#205 PSdual_wielder
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At first I was wondering where the 'beat sony in a weekend' thing come from, turns out it was just a press tagline. So in other words, acquiring the funds to fight the battle still doesn't mean you're going to win.

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#206 Phazevariance
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I still have no support for this guy...he dug his own gravestereointegrity
This guy's case will have massive reprocussions on what companies and corporations can and cannot do to their consoles and what users can and cannot do to the consoles once they have been legally sold and purchased by an end user. To think that this case has anything to do with piracy is just short sighted and ignorant. It's about who owns the console after YOU, the end user pays money for it, and who has the right to do what to it after that purchase. This includes hacking your bought console, or sony removing features after it's been sold. Both parties are at fault and this case will be the determining factor of precedence for all future cases regarding these topics.
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#207 rpgs_shall_rule
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To all the people that blindly support this guy. Would you like if you work for a company that produced nuclear weapons and someone was able to hack or spy on what you were doing and once they figured out what your company was doing they released the nuclear weapon info to thepublic putting people's lives in danger. This is the exact same scenario as what is happening with the PS3 right now. I seriously hope Geohotz gets destroyed by Sony. I'm not a sony fanboy, but I hate developers getting affected by what that hacking group and Geohot's did.

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http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Make-An-Atomic-Bomb-53392.shtml

Just sayin'

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#208 soapandbubbles
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anyone else find this comical? The fact that he is trying to make Sony look like the bad guys...yet he is the one who caused all this mess, hiding behind the constant BS of not wanting to promote piracy, yet releasing the keys to public use..what did he expect? Now look at him wanting attention...like his some MODERN DAY ROBIN HOOD!... IDIOT! The people supporting HIM is mind boggling. You buy the PS3 for it's primary use of legal gaming, not to buy one to use it for other means...you can't expect sony too allow people to buy their products for illegal uses and anything that remotely encourages piracy. So for them to remove the OS is common sense. PS3 isn't marketed as a f'en hardware to do this illegal **** or anything similar to it. If you bought the PS3 to do something else with it...BEAT IT and stop whining, you can't **** at sony for what they can or can't remove, they can do whatever...as long as it stops this kind of crap...understand? btw, you would know all this if you read the terms and conditions, before buying one...DERR! gsus!

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#209 Art_424
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The guy has every right to do what he wants with his purchased console. If he made the key public, it was perhaps cause he wants others to benefit from this mod, he isn't forcing anyone to do it, he could have tried to make a profit from it which would have been wrong imo but he chose to share instead.

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#210 rpgs_shall_rule
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anyone else find this comical? The fact that he is trying to make Sony look like the bad guys...yet he is the one who caused all this mess, hiding behind the constant BS of not wanting to promote piracy, yet releasing the keys to public use..what did he expect? Now look at him wanting attention...like his some MODERN DAY ROBIN HOOD!... IDIOT! The people supporting HIM is mind boggling. You buy the PS3 for it's primary use of legal gaming, not to buy one to use it for other means...you can't expect sony too allow people to buy their products for illegal uses and anything that remotely encourages piracy. So for them to remove the OS is common sense. PS3 isn't marketed as a f'en hardware to do this illegal **** or anything similar to it. If you bought the PS3 to do something else with it...BEAT IT and stop whining, you can't **** at sony for what they can or can't remove, they can do whatever...as long as it stops this kind of crap...understand? btw, you would know all this if you read the terms and conditions, before buying one...DERR! gsus!

soapandbubbles

What happened to "It only does everything"?

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#211 Tessellation
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good to know there is good fellas like this man,sony deserves it.
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#212 Vesica_Prime
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I honestly do not understand what is the point of OtherOS. You buy a videogame console to play videogames, not run a server. Get a dedicated server box if you're going to do that.

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#213 XboximusPrime
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article writer is a idiot.

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#214 XboximusPrime
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I highly doubt he got enough to go up against SONy for the remainder that this case will take to finish up. Watch 2 weeks from now "Um, I need more money guys"

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#215 shinrabanshou
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I don't care if hes an **** Sony shouldn't be able to bully him in court simply because they have lots of money. Sadly thats how our legal system works.

TOAO_Cyrus1

Sony aren't able to "bully him in court" simply because they have lots of money. Sony are able to take him to court because he may have violated US Federal Law.

I don't know exactly how many times this needs to be said before it penetrates into the minds of some people.

You cannot litigate over nothing.

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#216 XboximusPrime
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God I hope he dosent win and forces SONY to release PS4 earlier then they want to, therefore causing the syestem to be rushed and therefore having it fail.

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#217 LegatoSkyheart
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Wow.

That many people were pleased with his work.

While yes I agree that Consoles should be opened source like the PC so there can be Mod Supports BUT I also don't like the Fact that I have Cheaters online.

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#218 XboximusPrime
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Wow.

That many people were pleased with his work.

While yes I agree that Consoles should be opened source like the PC so there can be Mod Supports BUT I also don't like the Fact that I have Cheaters online.

LegatoSkyheart

I give it 2 weeks before he runs out of that money and runs back asking for more.

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#219 shinrabanshou
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God I hope he dosent win and forces SONY to release PS4 earlier then they want to.

XboximusPrime

That's about as likely as Don Mattrick and Kaz Hirai making out on stage at E3 while Satoru Iwata plays the banjo.

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#220 hakanakumono
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I highly doubt he got enough to go up against SONy for the remainder that this case will take to finish up. Watch 2 weeks from now "Um, I need more money guys"

XboximusPrime

I doubt that he closed it without some entity promising to pay him continual amounts of money throughout the case.

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#221 Lionheart08
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God I hope he dosent win and forces SONY to release PS4 earlier then they want to, therefore causing the syestem to be rushed and therefore having it fail.

XboximusPrime

And people will donate more money. It's sad really.

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#222 ASRCSR
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No matter how much money he raises, Sony will always have more to spend on the legal team
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#223 Led_poison
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I want to be the lawyer in this one
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#224 XboximusPrime
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

I highly doubt he got enough to go up against SONy for the remainder that this case will take to finish up. Watch 2 weeks from now "Um, I need more money guys"

hakanakumono

I doubt that he closed it without some entity promising to pay him continual amounts of money throughout the case.

and watch that entity lied to him. lol.

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#225 XboximusPrime
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Anyone else wish they put up live footage of the court case on pay per view?

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#226 supdotcom
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he's clearly just using his fame to get people's money. he needs to get a job and stop hiding in his mother's basement.

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#227 rpgs_shall_rule
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he's clearly just using his fame to get people's money. he needs to get a job and stop hiding in his mother's basement.

supdotcom

That's why he stopped collecting money right?

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#228 XboximusPrime
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[QUOTE="supdotcom"]

he's clearly just using his fame to get people's money. he needs to get a job and stop hiding in his mother's basement.

rpgs_shall_rule

That's why he stopped collecting money right?

because he already got what he wanted out of those sheep. (not SW sheep, but sheepin the people who blindly follow someone)

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#229 rpgs_shall_rule
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because he already got what he wanted out of those sheep. (not SW sheep, but sheepin the people who blindly follow someone)

XboximusPrime

So... even when (if) he's greedy, he's more principled than Sony? :D

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#230 Tetrarch9
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I hold so much hate for this guy. Wanting to crack and ruin games on my favorite system. What really disgust meis all those people whodonated including the ones on this site. I hope sony destroys him and takes everything he owns.

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#231 exiledsnake
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This thread is essentially just anti-piracy people versus pro-consumer rights. Seems like a lose-lose situation really. And the reason why I believe consoles can't sustain open source is because its a console and not a PC. Consoles aren't bought by everybody, PCs are.
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#232 rpgs_shall_rule
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I hold so much hate for this guy. Wanting to crack and ruin games on my favorite system. What really disgust meis all those people whodonated including the ones on this site. I hope sony destroys him and takes everything he owns.

Tetrarch9

Yes, because he's been going around telling people how to use aimbots in COD... and of course, it's perfectly acceptable to ruin his life over this. Yep, Geohotz must be pure evil. Sony said so.

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#233 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="Tetrarch9"]

I hold so much hate for this guy. Wanting to crack and ruin games on my favorite system. What really disgust meis all those people whodonated including the ones on this site. I hope sony destroys him and takes everything he owns.

rpgs_shall_rule

Yes, because he's been going around telling people how to use aimbots in COD... and of course, it's perfectly acceptable to ruin his life over this. Yep, Geohotz must be pure evil. Sony said so.

Neither are Sony.

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#234 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Good on him. He has the right to a top notch legal team.
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#235 _Cadbury_
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So he starts a fight he knows is going to cost more than he can afford, then asks other people to pay for it. Lol at the people who gave him money.
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#236 argetlam00
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Gogogogo Geohot! The consumers own their products, not corporations! If people want to hack their PS3, they should have the right to do that.

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#237 TheMoreYouOwn
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[QUOTE="Pelon208"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] I see Geohot as a modern day Che Guevara GeneralShowzer

Wow!! you support Communism??

I do actually. See, I've studied in school what Communism actually is.

Funny how those who support communism are never the ones who live under it. Would love to introduce to my best man's folks who grew up in Lithuania. They could tell you a thing or two about what it's like to actually live under communist rule.

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#238 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="Pelon208"]

Wow!! you support Communism??

TheMoreYouOwn

I do actually. See, I've studied in school what Communism actually is.

Funny how those who support communism are never the ones who live under it. Would love to introduce to my best man's folks who grew up in Lithuania. They could tell you a thing or two about what it's like to actually live under communist rule.

I don't recall any communist atrocities in Lithuania to be honest. The only ones that stand out for me are in Soviet Ukraine and Pol Pot.

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#239 LegatoSkyheart
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Gogogogo Geohot! The consumers own their products, not corporations! If people want to hack their PS3, they should have the right to do that.

argetlam00

But do they have the right to freakin' Cheat Online and Not Pay for Games that Hard Working Game Developers Made?

No, they don't.

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#240 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Gogogogo Geohot! The consumers own their products, not corporations! If people want to hack their PS3, they should have the right to do that.

LegatoSkyheart

But do they have the right to freakin' Cheat Online and Not Pay for Games that Hard Working Game Developers Made?

No, they don't.

Hacking the PS3 doesn't have to be for piracy or for cheating. It can be for homebrew perfectly reasonably. Closed systems suck. Just because the hack may allow some people to pirate doesn't mean it was intended for piracy. Geohot is against that.

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#242 LegatoSkyheart
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Hacking the PS3 doesn't have to be for piracy or for cheating. It can be for homebrew perfectly reasonably. Closed systems suck. Just because the hack may allow some people to pirate doesn't mean it was intended for piracy. Geohot is against that.

argetlam00

But it certainly gives Pirates and Cheaters the Ability to Cheat and Steal.

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#243 argetlam00
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Irrelevant. Just because it makes piracy and cheating a bit easier doesn't mean it has to be used for it.

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#244 shinrabanshou
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Closed systems suck.

Geohot is against that.

argetlam00

Then don't buy them.

And he's only against it when it's convenient or necessary to be against it.

Posted before, ignored before. Will probably be ignored again.

If you are willing to open up your system, learn some electronics, and solder, then George Hotz thinks you deserve free games. And the real reason he's "against piracy" is because he has to publically be "against piracy."

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#245 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Closed systems suck.

Geohot is against that.

shinrabanshou

Then don't buy them.

And he's only against it when it's convenient or necessary to be against it.

Posted before, ignored before. Will probably be ignored again.

If you are willing to open up your system, learn some electronics, and solder, then George Hotz thinks you deserve free games. And the real reason he's "against piracy" is because he has to publically be "against piracy."

1) None of the points he made are invalid. Actually they are quite true. I can relate to much of what he has stated, especially the part about TV shows.

2) You are right, I buy my systems, I don't rent them. Sony seems to think I'm renting them. They can close them up all they want but if someone like geohot hacks them then good on geohot and if he wants to release the tools so other that want to can, then even better on him. Why should they be left out?

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#246 LegatoSkyheart
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If you are willing to open up your system, learn some electronics, and solder, then George Hotz thinks you deserve free games. And the real reason he's "against piracy" is because he has to publically be "against piracy."

shinrabanshou

So it's just to give him a Good Image huh?

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#247 Totalgym9000
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I actually had a dream, a sony fanboy punched his teeth out.......
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#248 shinrabanshou
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1) None of the points he made are invalid. Actually they are quite true. I can relate to much of what he has stated, especially the part about TV shows.

2) You are right, I buy my systems, I don't rent them. Sony seems to think I'm renting them. They can close them up all they want but if someone like geohot hacks them then good on geohot and if he wants to release the tools so other that want to can, then even better on him. Why should they be left out?

argetlam00

You agree with his notion that if you learn electronics, open something up and solder something you suddenly are entitled to commit piracy?

If you buy a console you buy a product, a combination of tangible property and intangible property. The former is physically sold to you the latter is licensed for use. You do not own the intangible intellectual property. And you never have.

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#249 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

1) None of the points he made are invalid. Actually they are quite true. I can relate to much of what he has stated, especially the part about TV shows.

2) You are right, I buy my systems, I don't rent them. Sony seems to think I'm renting them. They can close them up all they want but if someone like geohot hacks them then good on geohot and if he wants to release the tools so other that want to can, then even better on him. Why should they be left out?

shinrabanshou

You agree with his notion that if you learn electronics, open something up and solder something you suddenly are entitled to commit piracy?

If you buy a console you buy a product, a combination of tangible property and intangible property. The former is physically sold to you the latter is licensed for use. You do not own the intangible intellectual property. And you never have.

No I don't but to be honest if you go that far then you must REALLY not want to buy them. It's not like the companies would be getting that guys money either way. Oh and owning the physical copy is enough to be able to do what you want on the PS3 you bought. This has been upheld in court in the Apple case and there is no difference in this one. Sony will lose just like Apple did. There is nothing wrong with opening up a system and getting more features out of it for your personal use.

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#250 XboximusPrime
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Closed systems suck.

Geohot is against that.

argetlam00

Then don't buy them.

And he's only against it when it's convenient or necessary to be against it.

Posted before, ignored before. Will probably be ignored again.

If you are willing to open up your system, learn some electronics, and solder, then George Hotz thinks you deserve free games. And the real reason he's "against piracy" is because he has to publically be "against piracy."

1) None of the points he made are invalid. Actually they are quite true. I can relate to much of what he has stated, especially the part about TV shows.

2) You are right, I buy my systems, I don't rent them. Sony seems to think I'm renting them. They can close them up all they want but if someone like geohot hacks them then good on geohot and if he wants to release the tools so other that want to can, then even better on him. Why should they be left out?

Dude, you own the systems you buy. yes, but when you tamper with the software aspect then your in the wrong.