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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]Actually, its still 2011 and the gap is 1.1 million thus farwaltefmoney
The gap is 2.1 million currently.
So the PS3 is NOT at 56.5 million? or is the 360 higher than 57.6 million? :?[QUOTE="waltefmoney"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]Actually, its still 2011 and the gap is 1.1 million thus farMozelleple112
The gap is 2.1 million currently.
So the PS3 is NOT at 56.5 million? or is the 360 higher than 57.6 million? :?The PS3 is at 55.5 million. Source.
So the PS3 is NOT at 56.5 million? or is the 360 higher than 57.6 million? :?[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]
The gap is 2.1 million currently.
waltefmoney
The PS3 is at 55.5 million. Source.
I see, I went over and counted each FY myself. TC should edit his post, seriously misleading. So Sony closed the gap by 600-800K in Q2/Q3 of 2011.Aah,the good old days where sales didn't matter.
Still,it's lame.The Wii is beating the s*** out of them.If you ain't first,you're last.
only a few million behind which in cow logic ='s VICTORYYYYYYYYY!!!!
seriously though who cares, i said at the start of this gen that when ms was put in last place all it means is yet another console i liked ended up in last.
now the only difference is you have to say that about the ps3 instead of the 360.
big deal.
360 sells like a beast in Christmas, but for now, the gap is indeed less than 3 million.GulliversTravel
This is mainly due to Japan though and the two huge price drops PS3 had all those years that 360 did not have any price drops
[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]360 sells like a beast in Christmas, but for now, the gap is indeed less than 3 million.loosingENDS
This is mainly due to Japan though and the two huge price drops PS3 had all those years that 360 did not have any price drops
Why make excuses for the reason? The gap is smaller and it has steadily gotten smaller. Will it pass the 360? Don't know and don't care. But if the PS3 were to surpass the 360 would it really matter if did it by selling like hot cakes in Abu Dhabi, The Congo or Japan? No. It's still the same device being sold. Also, you make it seem like the price somehow nullifies the sale. Why a customer chooses to buy one system over another is irrelevant. A sale is a sale.5 years and the ps3 is still behind. how sad for sonyThe_RedLionI don't really understand the attitude of "Lol, it took PS3 5 years to catch up to 360!" Really, it makes me scratch my head when Lems say PS3 is a fail because it took them 5 years to catch up... That implies that they always assumed PS3 would pass it, and thought it would happen faster... which is basically saying "we expected 360 to be in last place." Seems like an odd thing for a 360 fan to say.
When PS3 passes 360, and the 360 fans DC by saying "Yeah, but it took 6 years," that's still ignoring that that means PS3 sold more in 6 than 360 did in 7... Saying that's sad is like saying "your football team didn't manage to pass our team's score until the end of the fourth quarter... you guys suck!" even though the other team didn't even come out onto the field in the first quarter... and still beat them. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
I don't really understand the attitude of "Lol, it took PS3 5 years to catch up to 360!" Really, it makes me scratch my head when Lems say PS3 is a fail because it took them 5 years to catch up...[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]5 years and the ps3 is still behind. how sad for sonyianuilliam
Catch up? They're 2.1 million behind. They most likely won't catch up this year.
I don't really understand the attitude of "Lol, it took PS3 5 years to catch up to 360!" Really, it makes me scratch my head when Lems say PS3 is a fail because it took them 5 years to catch up... That implies that they always assumed PS3 would pass it, and thought it would happen faster... which is basically saying "we expected 360 to be in last place." Seems like an odd thing for a 360 fan to say.[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]5 years and the ps3 is still behind. how sad for sonyianuilliam
When PS3 passes 360, and the 360 fans DC by saying "Yeah, but it took 6 years," that's still ignoring that that means PS3 sold more in 6 than 360 did in 7... Saying that's sad is like saying "your football team didn't manage to pass our team's score until the end of the fourth quarter... you guys suck!" even though the other team didn't even come out onto the field in the first quarter... and still beat them. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
the reasons have been explained many times in sw[QUOTE="tenaka2"]halo 4 is all it needs. that will probably outsell every ps3 exclusive combined :lol:Lems said that same exact thing about Gears 3 and PS3's 2011 exclusives... How'd that work out?Your forgetting 'The List' can anyone post the list of exclusive 360 9.5/10 games coming to the xbox soon, anyone?
mems_1224
[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]
Your forgetting 'The List' can anyone post the list of exclusive 360 9.5/10 games coming to the xbox soon, anyone?
halo 4 is all it needs. that will probably outsell every ps3 exclusive combined :lol:Lems said that same exact thing about Gears 3 and PS3's 2011 exclusives... How'd that work out? what was the highest selling ps3 game so far?I don't really understand the attitude of "Lol, it took PS3 5 years to catch up to 360!" Really, it makes me scratch my head when Lems say PS3 is a fail because it took them 5 years to catch up...[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]
[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]5 years and the ps3 is still behind. how sad for sonywaltefmoney
Catch up? They're 2.1 million behind. They most likely won't catch up this year.
You're right. I was just simplifying it a bit. 360 is still roughly 3% ahead in total sales, with only 20% longer on the market. We obviously can't say for certain how the fourth quarter will end up, till they put out the reports in Jan or Feb, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if PS3 closes it by another million or more this quarter (PS3 is going into the holidays fresh off the heels of a price cut, last time that happened, it outsold the 360 by 1.3 million).[QUOTE="loosingENDS"][QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]360 sells like a beast in Christmas, but for now, the gap is indeed less than 3 million.incuensuocha
This is mainly due to Japan though and the two huge price drops PS3 had all those years that 360 did not have any price drops
Why make excuses for the reason? The gap is smaller and it has steadily gotten smaller. Will it pass the 360? Don't know and don't care. But if the PS3 were to surpass the 360 would it really matter if did it by selling like hot cakes in Abu Dhabi, The Congo or Japan? No. It's still the same device being sold. Also, you make it seem like the price somehow nullifies the sale. Why a customer chooses to buy one system over another is irrelevant. A sale is a sale.It is not true, where it sells does matter
Sales number are all about developer interest
And most games sell far more on 360 due to the 10 million gap in US
It is not true, where it sells does matter
Sales number are all about developer interest
And most games sell far more on 360 due to the 10 million gap in US
loosingENDS
This doens't make sense, Do you mean that 360 games sell more in the US because the US has a lot of 360s?
Why make excuses for the reason? The gap is smaller and it has steadily gotten smaller. Will it pass the 360? Don't know and don't care. But if the PS3 were to surpass the 360 would it really matter if did it by selling like hot cakes in Abu Dhabi, The Congo or Japan? No. It's still the same device being sold. Also, you make it seem like the price somehow nullifies the sale. Why a customer chooses to buy one system over another is irrelevant. A sale is a sale.[QUOTE="incuensuocha"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
This is mainly due to Japan though and the two huge price drops PS3 had all those years that 360 did not have any price drops
loosingENDS
It is not true, where it sells does matter
Sales number are all about developer interest
And most games sell far more on 360 due to the 10 million gap in US
But we're not talking about the target audience of specific developers in this thread. This thread is about total worldwide console sales. So where or why a sale occured is irrelevant in that sense.Well it wont change my life should PS3 surpass the 360 in terms of sales.. I think for a system to sell close to 60 million is already an amazing task..
Surely for Sony sales & profits are important so I leave them worry about how much PS3 units are sold..
Me being just a gamer I only care about the support (in terms of Exclusive Games, Online Service, Updates etc) given by Sony to their console, which imo was great..
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"][QUOTE="incuensuocha"] Why make excuses for the reason? The gap is smaller and it has steadily gotten smaller. Will it pass the 360? Don't know and don't care. But if the PS3 were to surpass the 360 would it really matter if did it by selling like hot cakes in Abu Dhabi, The Congo or Japan? No. It's still the same device being sold. Also, you make it seem like the price somehow nullifies the sale. Why a customer chooses to buy one system over another is irrelevant. A sale is a sale.incuensuocha
It is not true, where it sells does matter
Sales number are all about developer interest
And most games sell far more on 360 due to the 10 million gap in US
But we're not talking about the target audience of specific developers in this thread. This thread is about total worldwide console sales. So where or why a sale occured is irrelevant in that sense.I dont know even why he mentions price drops, looks like Saolin as usual only points out what he wants, i dont remember the 360 being launched at the current price, so there were price-cuts too... Also considering all console manufacturers sell their system all over the world, then WORLDWIDE SALES are what truly count for them.. Am sure for Sony/MS/Nintendo its irrelevant whether they sell a system in US or Malta (which is my country with a population of 400k).. A sale is a Sale !!!!
it will change both our lives dude, this place will give us more joy and fun than you can shake a stick at if the ps3 surpsses the 360 in sales, we will become veterans of one of the biggest battles in SW history.Well it wont change my life should PS3 surpass the 360 in terms of sales.. I think for a system to sell close to 60 million is already an amazing task..
Surely for Sony sales & profits are important so I leave them worry about how much PS3 units are sold..
Me being just a gamer I only care about the support (in terms of Exclusive Games, Online Service, Updates etc) given by Sony to their console, which imo was great..
Malta_1980
[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]it will change both our lives dude, this place will give us more joy and fun than you can shake a stick at if the ps3 surpsses the 360 in sales, we will become veterans of one of the biggest battles in SW history.Well it wont change my life should PS3 surpass the 360 in terms of sales.. I think for a system to sell close to 60 million is already an amazing task..
Surely for Sony sales & profits are important so I leave them worry about how much PS3 units are sold..
Me being just a gamer I only care about the support (in terms of Exclusive Games, Online Service, Updates etc) given by Sony to their console, which imo was great..
delta3074
You're right, almost forgot about that... i just hope they will make immediately an official thread so this topic will be discussed just there :)
[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Lems said that same exact thing about Gears 3 and PS3's 2011 exclusives... How'd that work out? what was the highest selling ps3 game so far?So far this year, probably KZ3 and LBP2.. but I imagine U3 will pass them pretty quickly. Your claim about Halo4, and the similar claim made about Gears3 wasn't about how they compared to the highest selling PS3 game though... it was that Halo4 (or Gears 3) would "outsell every PS3 exclusive combined." Without any reliable sources to go by, we don't know for sure, but according to VGChartz, Gears3 is at 4.2 million, with KZ3, LBP2, and I2 totaling more than that. Then there's Yakuza, MLB, Motorstorm, Resistance, Disgaea, Socom, Ratchet, Uncharted... etc., etc., etc. There's absolutely no chance at all that Gears will have sold more this year than all the 2011 PS3 exclusives combined.[QUOTE="mems_1224"] halo 4 is all it needs. that will probably outsell every ps3 exclusive combined :lol:mems_1224
this thread reminds me of how i want a "nostalgia sw" sticky where you could post all those old "ps3 gonna blow 360 outta the water threads".
comeon sw make it happen.
how great would it be to be able to read classics like "haze will crush halo" wii gonna flop" and dude raider = fail.
I am glad at least more people are buying the ps3. Lets face it the 360 isn't as great as it was during the high of its popularity 2007. Now the 360 is a aging console with extremely limited exclusives. A few mulipats like COD and excluives like gears and xbox live are the only things keeping it alive really.
[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Lems said that same exact thing about Gears 3 and PS3's 2011 exclusives... How'd that work out?
what was the highest selling ps3 game so far?So far this year, probably KZ3 and LBP2.. but I imagine U3 will pass them pretty quickly. Your claim about Halo4, and the similar claim made about Gears3 wasn't about how they compared to the highest selling PS3 game though... it was that Halo4 (or Gears 3) would "outsell every PS3 exclusive combined." Without any reliable sources to go by, we don't know for sure, but according to VGChartz, Gears3 is at 4.2 million, with KZ3, LBP2, and I2 totaling more than that. Then there's Yakuza, MLB, Motorstorm, Resistance, Disgaea, Socom, Ratchet, Uncharted... etc., etc., etc. There's absolutely no chance at all that Gears will have sold more this year than all the 2011 PS3 exclusives combined. how do exclusive 360 game sales compare to 360?[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]So far this year, probably KZ3 and LBP2.. but I imagine U3 will pass them pretty quickly. Your claim about Halo4, and the similar claim made about Gears3 wasn't about how they compared to the highest selling PS3 game though... it was that Halo4 (or Gears 3) would "outsell every PS3 exclusive combined." Without any reliable sources to go by, we don't know for sure, but according to VGChartz, Gears3 is at 4.2 million, with KZ3, LBP2, and I2 totaling more than that. Then there's Yakuza, MLB, Motorstorm, Resistance, Disgaea, Socom, Ratchet, Uncharted... etc., etc., etc. There's absolutely no chance at all that Gears will have sold more this year than all the 2011 PS3 exclusives combined. how do exclusive 360 game sales compare to 360?Wut?[QUOTE="mems_1224"] what was the highest selling ps3 game so far?mems_1224
[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ianuilliam"]So far this year, probably KZ3 and LBP2.. but I imagine U3 will pass them pretty quickly. Your claim about Halo4, and the similar claim made about Gears3 wasn't about how they compared to the highest selling PS3 game though... it was that Halo4 (or Gears 3) would "outsell every PS3 exclusive combined." Without any reliable sources to go by, we don't know for sure, but according to VGChartz, Gears3 is at 4.2 million, with KZ3, LBP2, and I2 totaling more than that. Then there's Yakuza, MLB, Motorstorm, Resistance, Disgaea, Socom, Ratchet, Uncharted... etc., etc., etc. There's absolutely no chance at all that Gears will have sold more this year than all the 2011 PS3 exclusives combined.
how do exclusive 360 game sales compare to 360?Wut? 360 to ps3....you know what i meant. sorry im at work. im supposed to be helping customers :lol:what was the highest selling ps3 game so far?So far this year, probably KZ3 and LBP2.. but I imagine U3 will pass them pretty quickly. Your claim about Halo4, and the similar claim made about Gears3 wasn't about how they compared to the highest selling PS3 game though... it was that Halo4 (or Gears 3) would "outsell every PS3 exclusive combined." Without any reliable sources to go by, we don't know for sure, but according to VGChartz, Gears3 is at 4.2 million, with KZ3, LBP2, and I2 totaling more than that. Then there's Yakuza, MLB, Motorstorm, Resistance, Disgaea, Socom, Ratchet, Uncharted... etc., etc., etc. There's absolutely no chance at all that Gears will have sold more this year than all the 2011 PS3 exclusives combined.i think we should start comparing total sales of all exclusives on each platform, individual exclusives on 360 sell more but with the ps3 the money is spread between more exclusives, i don't believe it's a cas of Ps3 owners not buying excluisves i think it's a case of ps3 owners buyin different exclusives to each other because they have more to choose from.[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Lems said that same exact thing about Gears 3 and PS3's 2011 exclusives... How'd that work out?
ianuilliam
[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]what DC? the 360 is still 2.1 million ahead, read the whole thread dude.Look at All the DC. from the other party. who cares. play games and have fun
delta3074
i know that. But DC is stillhappening. Making excuses left and right as to why ps3 outsold 360 by 1.4 million in the past quarter. I exoect thesame results come Holiday season. But i dont care about that. Its the DC that makes it fun
[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Wut? 360 to ps3....you know what i meant. sorry im at work. im supposed to be helping customers :lol:Hard to say? I mean, we rarely get accurate total worldwide sales data for indivdual games, except when they pass certain milestones. Going by VGChartz, Gears is double the highest PS3 exclusive for the year, but probably less than half all the PS3 exclusives combined.[QUOTE="mems_1224"] how do exclusive 360 game sales compare to 360?mems_1224
[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]So far this year, probably KZ3 and LBP2.. but I imagine U3 will pass them pretty quickly. Your claim about Halo4, and the similar claim made about Gears3 wasn't about how they compared to the highest selling PS3 game though... it was that Halo4 (or Gears 3) would "outsell every PS3 exclusive combined." Without any reliable sources to go by, we don't know for sure, but according to VGChartz, Gears3 is at 4.2 million, with KZ3, LBP2, and I2 totaling more than that. Then there's Yakuza, MLB, Motorstorm, Resistance, Disgaea, Socom, Ratchet, Uncharted... etc., etc., etc. There's absolutely no chance at all that Gears will have sold more this year than all the 2011 PS3 exclusives combined.i think we should start comparing total sales of all exclusives on each platform, individual exclusives on 360 sell more but with the ps3 the money is spread between more exclusives, i don't believe it's a cas of Ps3 owners not buying excluisves i think it's a case of ps3 owners buyin different exclusives to each other because they have more to choose from.It'd be nice to compare total software sales. If MS put their software sales in their fiscals, we could, since Sony does that. As it is, we don't have reliable worldwide numbers to compare totals, and even just looking at US or Japan, NPD and Media Create only really give us the top 20 games each month, and NPD doesn't split it by platform on multiplats anymore... The only source we have to go by is VGChartz, and that's not the most accurate or reliable.[QUOTE="mems_1224"] what was the highest selling ps3 game so far?delta3074
i think we should start comparing total sales of all exclusives on each platform, individual exclusives on 360 sell more but with the ps3 the money is spread between more exclusives, i don't believe it's a cas of Ps3 owners not buying excluisves i think it's a case of ps3 owners buyin different exclusives to each other because they have more to choose from.It'd be nice to compare total software sales. If MS put their software sales in their fiscals, we could, since Sony does that. As it is, we don't have reliable worldwide numbers to compare totals, and even just looking at US or Japan, NPD and Media Create only really give us the top 20 games each month, and NPD doesn't split it by platform on multiplats anymore... The only source we have to go by is VGChartz, and that's not the most accurate or reliable.that's a shame, would give us a far more accurate result as to how each console i fairing in the most important sales figures which is software sales, a far better indicator of how popular said console is[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ianuilliam"]So far this year, probably KZ3 and LBP2.. but I imagine U3 will pass them pretty quickly. Your claim about Halo4, and the similar claim made about Gears3 wasn't about how they compared to the highest selling PS3 game though... it was that Halo4 (or Gears 3) would "outsell every PS3 exclusive combined." Without any reliable sources to go by, we don't know for sure, but according to VGChartz, Gears3 is at 4.2 million, with KZ3, LBP2, and I2 totaling more than that. Then there's Yakuza, MLB, Motorstorm, Resistance, Disgaea, Socom, Ratchet, Uncharted... etc., etc., etc. There's absolutely no chance at all that Gears will have sold more this year than all the 2011 PS3 exclusives combined.
ianuilliam
[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]It'd be nice to compare total software sales. If MS put their software sales in their fiscals, we could, since Sony does that. As it is, we don't have reliable worldwide numbers to compare totals, and even just looking at US or Japan, NPD and Media Create only really give us the top 20 games each month, and NPD doesn't split it by platform on multiplats anymore... The only source we have to go by is VGChartz, and that's not the most accurate or reliable.that's a shame, would give us a far more accurate result as to how each console i fairing in the most important sales figures which is software sales, a far better indicator of how popular said console isWe can look at the tie ratios, but again, MS doesn't announce their worldwide sales, so we can't determine their ww tie ratio, and whenever they announce it, they only announce their US tie ratio. It makes me face palm whenever people say things like "360 software sells better" because there's no possible source to confirm it.[QUOTE="delta3074"]i think we should start comparing total sales of all exclusives on each platform, individual exclusives on 360 sell more but with the ps3 the money is spread between more exclusives, i don't believe it's a cas of Ps3 owners not buying excluisves i think it's a case of ps3 owners buyin different exclusives to each other because they have more to choose from.delta3074
Huh, the Wii had no issue at all with the head start 360 had. :o It must be that the PS3 is just inferior to the Wii ? :twisted:
Anyway, here comes my patented response to this matter...
SecretPolice
Yeah... I'm sure it had NOTHING to do with the Wii being $250 while the PS3 was $600. :roll:
Doesn't matter, the 360 got half the market without Japan. As I predicted from the beggining it's going to end up 50/50. Next gen it'll start out 50/50 which is more important to MS than winning or lossing by one or two million.
Why do people forget the big picture. The 360 has been a massive success and achievment for MS, in all but Japan. Actually I think MS won, in that they nulified Japan in western areas. It used to be far and away, the most important of the 3 (EU, NA and Japan).
[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"][QUOTE="delta3074"]what DC? the 360 is still 2.1 million ahead, read the whole thread dude.Allthishate
i know that. But DC is stillhappening. Making excuses left and right as to why ps3 outsold 360 by 1.4 million in the past quarter. I exoect thesame results come Holiday season. But i dont care about that. Its the DC that makes it fun
its a shame 360 does not sell well in japan. dem japs dont like anything but *** products :S .In a way I can understand, it's easy to think xenophobia, but the gaming market is now western games for western gamers and Japanese games mostly for Japanese gamers. Graphics aren't even important to them according to Capcom. So their version of the 360 in terms of software would have to be almost a complete overhaul in theory.
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